-Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:33] *Feedback for FP beta feature, Terry Fox shirt is now live.* [2:37] *Intro.* [3:04] *Topic #1: MPA's CEO to work with congress to block piracy websites.* > 4:34 What would this do to VPNs? Linus's ISP notice for pirating. > 7:54 Luke on blockbusters revenue, impact of localized piracy. > 9:22 Pirating games and not buying later, lost sales from piracy. > 13:10 Linus on media production industry's issues, hiring argument. > 15:56 Streaming, Letterkenny DVDs, AI upscaling films, mastering issues. > 23:52 Luke's attempt to have plausible deniability, "pirate hat." > 25:04 VPN sponsorship? misleading talk points, Tom Scott's videos. > 28:57 Transparency, revenue, hosting liability ft. On-set viewers. > 38:29 Linus tells Colton to get PIA sponsor. > 41:30 Canceling ASUS after paying for LTX, booths cost, Luke at Open Source. > 46:14 Ethical gambling sponsorship? casino, gambling & addiction stories. > 54:30 Game sponsors as an exception, GambleYourFriends idea. [57:57] *LTTStore's new zip-up mock neck & pocket shirts.* [1:01:02] *Merch Messages #1 ft. Many cameras.* > 1:01:27 Whatever happened to IceGiant Cooling? ft. Mute Luke Button. > 1:09:24 Coolest tests LTT Labs are coming up with? > 1:11:44 Daily driving high RR OLED? Stripped down WinOS ft. LukeHasNoClue site, 6W monitor. [1:18:54] *Terry Fox Foundation.* [1:20:39] *BC Children's Hospital charity auction stream on Whatnot.* [1:23:28] *Tenstorrent's CEO Jim Keller to star on the next WAN Show's stream.* > 1:27:55 Tenstorrent product names, summarizing Keller's work history. [1:31:18] *Sponsors.* > 1:31:29 AG1. > 1:32:36 Ridge. > 1:34:01 Vessi ft. Luke might report Linus to his boss. [1:36:40] *Topic #2: Apple relaxes restrictions on App Store, allows emulators.* > 1:38:15 Apple's new framework to aid repairshops, hardware pairing. > 1:39:27 iOS default apps, Luke uses Firefox mobile, recalling FP poll. > 1:43:51 Linus questions Twitch's ad breaks, Luke's hypothesis. [1:45:53] *Merch Messages #2 ft. FP poll results.* > 1:46:18 Slay the Spire 2 is on Godot, Clear Code's 11 hours tutorial. > 1:49:36 Should game companies switch to open source engines? > 1:51:19 Would Linus get on The Yard? ft. KBMOD & WoodysGameTag. > 1:55:30 Tall sizes soon plz. > 1:55:40 How would you source hardware without a hardware recycler? > 1:59:30 HDDs struggled with filled capacity, is it the same with SSDs? [2:03:45] *Topic #3: Texas Education Agency replaces graders with AI.* [2:08:41] *Topic #4: CZcams's Playables still available despite end of life.* > 2:10:47 Linus finds a potential slow mo bug, still loses. > 2:15:02 Odd games, questioning who made them, "you are failed!" > 2:18:12 CZcams is losing its identity. [2:19:40] *Topic #5: ROKU patent for showing ads when pausing HDMI devices.* [2:24:12] *Topic #6: dumbwireless sells well amid social media craze.* > 2:26:03 Advice to not use Teams as a social life, KilledByGoogle. [2:29:48] *Topic #7: Former Google engineers launch AI music maker Udio.* > 2:31:26 Listening to Udio's "Wow..... I Didn't Know That." > 2:32:38 Person generates songs about Seth $h!tting his pants at work. > 2:34:18 Dan's thoughts on AI generated songs. > 2:35:49 Udio's options, copyright, "pilk" song, Dan's reaction. > 2:38:40 Excellent Rectangle's Tape to Tape. > 2:40:27 Dan on the songs AI is trained over, niche music genre. [2:42:07] *Topic #8: The_Crew's subreddit is deleting comments.* > 2:43:09 ShortCircuit's video on Minion router. > 2:44:33 Linus could write better lyrics, Suno shows analytics. [2:46:38] *Topic #9: Instagram's filter can blur nude images.* [2:50:11] *Topic #10: Discord removes Suyu & Sudachi servers & dev accounts.* [2:53:45] *Merch Messages #3 ft. Savage Jerky returns.* > 2:56:34 What technology you want to add or remove from cars? > 3:09:11 How do you focus on your own well-being despite the public figure pressure? > 3:18:14 Any plans to extend the LTT hat line to include bucket hats? > 3:21:17 A pink multi nep shirt? ft. Microfiber cloth shirt. > 3:24:14 What would game studios do to combat flopped AAA games? > 3:33:41 Udio LTT Christmas album? [3:34:57] *Exclusive FP content.* > 3:36:16 Super Chexx exclusive FP stream after WAN Show. > 3:37:27 Dan tries to leave, camera tracks him instead. [3:38:03] *Topic #11: XBOX creates new team to preserve games compatibility.* [3:39:18] *Topic #12: The Verge's article on AI & interracial prompts.* [3:44:28] *Topic #13: Android AirTags soon to be available.* [3:45:10] *Topic #14: FCC requires nutrition labels for ISP plans.* [3:46:22] *Merch Messages #4 ft. WAN Show After Dark.* > 3:47:05 How can I show my family the importance of cybersecurity? > 3:50:48 What do you look at when choosing a shirt printer? > 3:51:45 What do you think about the fresh water situation in BC? > 3:53:41 Chances of WAN Show not being weekly anymore or if CEO says no? > 3:54:05 Thoughts on achievement hunting within games? > 3:58:12 Chaotic deals Linus made during WAN Show? Is he banned from offering? > 3:59:48 Why are the USB 3.2 Gen 2 adapters for 10 gigs not ubiquitous? > 4:01:57 Is it just me or are the new LTTStore shirts neck openings big? > 4:02:21 Have you seen XOC influence AMD & Intel's products? > 4:04:43 Stories with tech deaf people? > 4:05:46 What knowledge base do you use? > 4:06:53 What has been the biggest culture shock as LMG grew? > 4:10:06 Thoughts on CZcams's new UI change? > 4:11:35 Why does VPN lower my internet's performance? > 4:12:22 New bottle cap version. > 4:12:45 Top three co-op childhood games? > 4:13:59 What games you want to see reimagined or remastered? > 4:16:29 Any upcoming features or tools FP devs are excited over? > 4:17:50 Skills Canada's provincial robotics competition. > 4:18:05 What process you use internally for product development? > 4:18:49 What happened to FP as a service? [4:19:29] *Outro ft. Dan runs back to end the show.* Side note: This took, literally, all day as my storage died mid live WAN Show...it's 8 PM now. At least computer cafes aren't as expensive as I thought lol. Donations are in my channel's about page, thanks for waiting this long!
Australian here. Piracy websites have been "blocked" in Australia for around 10 years now. But only blocked at DNS level, so switching to any non standard ISP DNS gets past it. Also, Disney have stopped all physical media releases in Australia. All I'm saying is, I'm not paying for D+ either.
Yep, Australian ISPs receive court orders stating which sites to block. It's well known that Google and Cloudflare DNS don't have blocks, despite having physical DNS servers in Australia. Not sure how that works, but sure makes life easy!
@@peejay1981 Surprising but certainly wouldn't complain if I lived there. In the UK they block both at the DNS and the IP level - i.e. requests to the IPs with a matching hosts header get redirected to a block page. Truth be told though anyone with an IQ above room temperature would just use a VPN.
@@joel345 ISPs can't filter based on http host header, as that part would be encrypted by TLS. It could be TLS SNI that's being looked at, but doubt it.
"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." ~Gabe Newell
@@nathantronThe percentage is definitely not that high. So many old games don'r run that easily on modern systems. Not saying Steam is bad or to blame for it, they let you refund, but your comment just isn't true.
@@KalebLudlowit ain't just that, they are actually doing stuff with the 30% cut they are making. They ain't just pocketing the money. They made the Steam Deck, and they made Steam VR and the software that goes with it.
"...steals hundreds of thousands of jobs from workers..." please. They barely pay the workers they have a livable wage. This is all about increasing returns for stock holders.
Yea, I won't say that every single country and company do the exact same thing, but I've found cases where big companies complained how unfair it is for them to have less profit, but their workers are living in a very bad condition.
There is nothing wrong with wanting more profit. They're just being dumb about it. With the money they spend trying to prevent piracy, they could make better, more affordable content and make a lot more money, like the gaming industry is doing.
It's infuriating that piracy is a conversation again. We literally solved this. Spotify and Netflix single handily killed off a large proportion of piracy, but then they got greedy and it happened all over again.
If they aren't making money, then they aren't sustainable and are likely burning venture capital money. If they are making money (and haven't achieved monopoly status), competitors will want a piece of it and competition will turn them all into money-grubbing, feature-ruining buttheads 🤷♂️ Piracy was only down during that initial phase which can't last... #capitalism :/
Spotify especially is really not a solution at least for independent artists especially with there new regulations. Spotify now requires artists in order to get paid have to have ALL there songs over the past 12 months need to receive 1000 streams in order to get paid. They are also taking a lot of music down from independent artists for “botted streams” when the streams they point to come from their own playlists.
I love the MPAA: "piracy makes us lose hundreds of job and billions of profit" US average salary: 60k Imagine each job cost another 60k in overhead 10000 jobs = 1.2 billion 10 billion = 83000 jobs The vast majority of those "billions of profit" is corporate profit going to rich people/corporations.
100 percent, I don't get people bending over for corporations, that money isn't gonna go to the people who deserve it, it's gonna go straight into some sociopathic ceo's pocket.
@@nerdrocker89 who are this "people who deserve it"? If there's no easy way to access it or you don't have the money and piracy solves the issue then pirate it until they make a better product like Steam did. Is the virtue signaling of "CEO's = bad because they're rich blah blah" that's such a cringe college socialist mentality that fortunately only exists within you hyperonline losers that don't get anything done
Big thing for me is also "buy our streaming service before you get to know what we have"... Netflix do not let you know what movies or series they have streaming before you have subscribed. Even when you subscribed, there is no A-Z index. Streaming services should be forced to be transparent, and should not be allowed to geo block content.
Streaming services should also compete with platform services, not content exclusivity. That would be great for the consumer. Obviously that's not going to happen though.
@@user-lz5vh9bb5w Because it's a stupid idea lol. Netflix would've monopolized the entire market, their acquisition costs would be a fraction of what they are now and lots of shows would've never been made.
Geo blocking is absolutely the choice of the streaming services. If every streaming service said no, then they are forcing the studio's hand. Geo Blocking only works because streaming services go along with it.
Back in the 90's piracy was a big part of my life. Members of my lan club would each download a "chunk" of a game on our 14.4k dialup connections. Then at the weekend we would get together for a lan party and put the "chunks" together and play the game and kick each others butts for hours. Happy days long gone.
I thoroughly enjoyed the entire discussion of piracy, and the VPN arguments that followed it. Also, Luke's "knife" analogy was excellent! Promoting a service does not in any way imply how that service should or would be used. LTT choosing not to sell your own killer VPN shows a level of integrity I admire, but while VPNs remain legal, I have no problem with LTT receiving sponsorship from them. You guys show far more awareness of the issues, no matter how dark, and that is something I have not seen anyone else brave or smart enough to tackle. Thanks for being you.
CZcams has started showing me membership exclusive videos, despite me not having a membership. It's an interesting advertisement idea, but it's also weird when you click on a video in your recommended and it won't play
With a lot of people, piracy is a symptom. People look at piracy and ignore that it's usually a problem affecting consumers, rather than consumers being the problem. It's usually a pricing, availability or quality problem. The craziest thing? I've seen piracy sites that operate with no advertisements, that provide cleaner interfaces than legal avenues, that shows how little innovation goes into the legal method of consumption. And the best part? They keep themselves running through donations from viewers. And they get plenty of it. People are willing to pay when the price is right for what they're getting.
Netflix is annoying to use lowers quailty by itself for no reason, cycles content very often and removes good movies, going to piracy is way easier, more convenient, it's not about the price, but thats what companies love to blame instead of improving their shit
@@imoyabrax450Exactly. I really like to watch movies and they all stream on different streaming services, so I would need to pay different streaming services with adds to watch different movies? If their prices were lower then maybe, but since the prices are high FUCK THEM
Maybe because they're not spending billions on content? Maybe because they don't have to pay ISP surcharges for all the bandwidth they're using? Most streaming services are barely viable businesses as they are now. It's impossible to compete on pricing with someone offering the same thing for free.
It's very far from a 1:1 even though I agree with the sentiment. Providing trackers for a file shared via p2p is not even close to actually producing content for one and then streaming it from data centers. The current prices would be a shrug of the shoulders if the economy wasn't garbage and we weren't living in a pathetic political era where everything needs censored or removed.
I've never pirated games and once Steam and GoG came along, I never felt I needed to. Movies/TV, I never give it a second thought. I bought bootleg VHS back in the 90s. One of my favorite things when I was a kid was going to my grandparents house and two blocks away there was a guy with a stand that just sold bootleg movies ever day, across the street from the police station. If nothing else, I respect the grind and the police for never rousting him. I'm sure they bought from him too.
Except it doesn't work that way. The prohibitive costs of hardware in the gaming industry kind of keep away most of the piracy. At least at this point. By the time you're worrying about piracy, your costs are recouped and you've stopped selling it. And in terms of film no no one's going to see these movies. It's not because of piracy. In fact, I don't think their numbers on how much they've lost a piracy are even from any amount of downloads. Because I don't think there's a billion dollars of ticket sales from theatrical releases lost to piracy at least not last year. Certainly not in the US. This seems like it's mostly just a scapegoat for their investors to save face.
This specific Wan is why I always watch. It doesn't really matter if it is the pseudo- connection, topics, or the acting vs real... Y'all are good at what you do and I just luv it.
What will the block do? Nothing. We have those blocks in Australia, it's a DNS redirect that ISPs are required to do that redirects to a "This page is banned" page. It can be bypassed with a VPN or just changing DNS to Google's.
Of course soon Google itself will be required to implement the block as well. I'm running a local DNS server on my SBC router and that's immune until the government starts blackholing root servers at ISP level ;)
i am russian, let me tell you, even when your blocking technologies are REALLY good(and they are improving every year), people just learn how to bypass them. Now even my mom knows how to set up a VPN connection
1:41:49 Luke you're a legend! I used to have the toolbar at the bottom on some obscure browser a few devices back and loved it, I had no idea Firefox could do that still and it immediately changed my phone browsing experience for the better.
Regarding those blocks of piracy related websites: we already have that in the eu, didn't work. In the EU those are DNS blocks that can just be circumvented by changing your DNS, you dont even need a VPN for that.
They could be more strict about those - But at the end of the day, the legal machinations just work too slowly for how technology works. If a domain is blocked, you can merely set up a new one, pointing to the same servers.
And then there’s Roskomnadzor in Russia, successfully forcing ISPs to block access to a myriad of supposedly illegal content (though that would also include some actually nefarious content). For the last 10+ years. Only VPN helps, and even those are being blocked since 2022 (corporate VPNs are not touched), only a few services work
@@UshankaMaster yes, I am not arguing that it is not possible, especially in a dictatorship. But let's not pretend Russia is not a stronghold of software and content piracy.
@@amshermansenyeah, I still remember when one of the biggest German illegal streaming sites was taken down only to be back online with a dozen different top level domains 6 hours later.
Always remember the time the RIAA trid to sue Limewire for $72tn in losses - more money than existed in the entire world economy at the time. All big organisations quoting losses from piracy are talking out of their rear end, at least to some extent.
Piracy destroyed the music industry, top to bottom. But it was inevitable. It isn't about the massive labels losing money it's about the engineers and session musicians, and songwriters and the culture that got flattened. The massive labels are still there, the culture though is gone, cause people have to eat. The musicians I like the most were hardly famous, but had access to great studios and decent distribution. That's all gone. The margins are so tight, there's no room for semi popular musicians to find a niche. But again, this was inevitable, with the internet and being able to copy a musicians work, infinitely. Just let's not pretend piracy had no effect on music or it was about fighting a big company. Musicians have no control over the supply of their product and therefore there's no value to it. Therefore no revenue. Therefore no investment. There's no putting the cat back in the bag, but I liked music better before Napster.
@@gramma677 I feel like we've seen music go in very different directions over the past 20 years. I've seen music production get cheaper and easier to access year after year, song writers producing from garages and bedrooms, unrepresented bands finding more success on youtube and spotify than some 90s mid-level indies had at the height of their careers. Oh, and music piracy isn't all that relevant any more. It still happens, but the advent of music streaming services made it a lot more niche. And from what I heard, the labels were caught with their fingers in the cookie jar when it came to streaming royalties so I'm not sure tech can be entirely blamed for lack of revenue from that direction either.
Last time i pirated music was in 2008, just before Spotify was launched in the UK. Last time i pirated a video was a few days ago, because its inconvenient and expensive to be signed up to every streaming site. As soon as a paid streaming service can give me everything my Plex setup can give me, I'll happily sign up to that. Until then, arrrrr
For me, it's the insane level of local censorship when the show is available, often with certain episode or the whole season basically blacklisted on the service. Pretty much the only piracy category I'm committed to is that... (plus game piracy is just sketchy AF... as a layman... not like you have a Reddit to ask where to get it for free...)
@@publicspeaker4009 Like I wrote, you pay for the license. You can use that license (use, resell, etc) however you want, but you don't own the game. You are not allowed to change or redistribute the game or use it without a valid license. (except when the license this specifically allows, or the game is open source)
Owning the game would mean you're free to use it however you want, and sell a copy of the game and not get in trouble, you only own 1 license. @@publicspeaker4009
one thing that is great about being in Canada is they can't actually charge us for illegal downloads here, we have levies on all blank media to pay for it so legally they can't touch us. So any means of downloading and using anything off the internet is legal here.
I'm so used to watching this a day late, cuz w/ Northern Ireland time it typically ends around my 5am. I didn't even realise it was still live until 36secs after it ended when the "Live" marker was still on it in my feed :( So sad I missed my chance to finally watch the show live for once. Even if it would have been just the last 1hr.
1:59:30 - Full hard drives are slower even if not fragmented. Since Drives are mechanical and spin at a fixed speed (i.e 5400 or 7200RPM). One revolution of the disk at the outside of the platter can contain 3x as much data per revolution as data stored on the inner parts near the spindle. Drives write outside in for this reason. So your drive gets slower steadily as it fills just based on circle geometry.
Honestly, if some game is no longer available, it should be free to copy. they can't lose revenue if they aren't selling it. its not as if they couldn't make it a dollar on steam. I'd buy an official copy if it was available, but in the case of a lot of older games, there is but one choice, piracy.
Their belief is that you shouldn't be able to do that and instead buy their new games. Nintendo follows that ideology. Stop looking to the past, only enjoy new things. At least until they want to selll you a remake or remaster. Then it's suddenly okay.
Not how that works. It is dumb but the law is the law. This is how books get lost to time when there is no one to ask to license them from. You can’t just publish a book that is no longer being sold and is still under copyright.
It reminds me of companies that, when their product doesn't sell, they destroy it before throwing it out so homeless and other dumpster divers can't have it. It's not just about making the money, it's about ensuring the "right" kinds of people enjoy their product.
I watched a couple of brief documentaries about Terry Fox after watching this. I cried a lot. You crazy Canadians picked a good national hero. I’ll be buying a shirt.
I won't spend 200$ on monthly subscriptions for movies and the only reason I have access to every subscription service is through family. I would use those apps, but it's straight up more convient to watch on one website. Seeing one of my favorite movies jump from 3 different platforms in less than a year is enough for me to not use any app. It's amazing how much worse it's been to watch anything these days. Movie theater popcorn costs as much as a nice meal at a restaurant and the seats are more expensive than an overpriced subscription cost.
@@PippetWhippet It's easy to figure out no matter which way you do the dates. You guys and your pointless "I LIVE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY AHHHH" wars, fucking hell.
@@PippetWhippet As an American, I agree we do dates in a weird way. Honestly, that's the least of the issues. Oh, god, don't get me started on very small distances. Fuckin fractions of an inch is ridiculous. Fahrenheit for temperature is fine, though, and I'll die on that hill.
Uk has these isp bans. They don’t work. Are bypassed easy. Also if I own the game I own it damn right I’ll backup. And some people can’t afford to keep the freezer full so let them download
It's the same in Sweden. ISPs are forced by the law to block torrent and illegal streaming sites. This can be bypassed without a VPN and just doing a DNS change. I'd still recommend using a VPN, though, even if it's been a while now since someone last got a fine for downloading something.
3:13:13 Thank you LMG and you Linus for being there as voice of reason, as representative, as a like-minded person/group and what you all have accomplished there for us!
Yeah some ISPs here in Germany tried to DNS-block a couple of years ago too - which just lead to most people I know switching to cloudflare or Google DNS at some point and forgetting about the block even happening
The amount of people that are shocked when I show them this, is crazy... Even tech literate people, So I honestly imagine that the DNS block is fairly effective for around 80% of people... Here in Australia it's not illegal to download pirated content, the legal responsibility is on the original supplier/uploader. I show and tell people this, and reason to them they dont really need to pay for a VPN, if they where only using VPN's for acessing pirated content.
@@QuinnKallisti I am in Australia too. I remember the old days of Optus cable internet where we chopped movies up into multi part archives and uploaded them to the Optus news groups. 😂 then bit torrent caught on and the Pirate Bay was born. About 10 years after that the government finally managed to get through legislation to require isps to ban pirated sites if a movie studio asks them to do it. At which point people used DNS or VPN to bypass it. There was a time where some isps would forward notices from movie companies and even disconnect people if you got multiple notices but this didn't last after the first legal challenge, for the reasons you mentioned, that it's not illegal to download a pirated movie, it is only illegal to provide it.
@@QuinnKallisti maybe it's more widespread here because the first page of Google when looking up what the block message you were redirected to meant was instantly filled with tutorials to circumvent it and even some newspapers explained how easy it is to get around
@@FaZekiller-qe3uf Unless you're a musician and your product is seen as an entitlement, just because it can be copied. Pirate all you want, but don't rationalize it like it's not kicking dirt in the face of all the people that worked on that thing you want to have for free. I don't think piracy will ever go away, but at least people should face the fact of being a parasite, not rationalize piracy like it's something to be proud of. And I bought tons of pirated albums when I was young, but I don't pretend it was the right thing to do.
Tbh I’d prefer if LTT was sponsored by a good VPN so I know which one they would prefer because usually if there is a problem with a sponsor the LtT community speaks up and it’s usually resolved or abolished from the sponsor spots.
LTT already had two major VPN sponsors, Tunnel Bear and PIA, but they both got bought out by companies with shady history, so Linus has decided to not take anymore VPN sponsorships.
Most people I know here in rural Kansas get pirated dvds when new movies come out because the vast majority of people don’t have internet and movie theatres are over an hour away. None of the families I know actually have a computer or internet only cellphones.
As someone else from central Kansas, I know several people who also still use dial up, because they have no other option. When you want something, but can’t get it, you’ll probably find a way
I don't pirate in the sense of downloading, but I do use apps/sites to watch movies and tv shows...everything is scattered across multiple streaming services. I can't afford to get hulu, prime, netflix, disney+, peacock, etc
Make the service not be shit and I may consider not pirating stuff. Get rid of geoblocking and if I buy a digital thing, I want the actual file that I can run wherever whenever
When I was young 90% of commodore 64/Amiga games were pirated. Luke is correct, we would never have bought them if we couldn't pirate them. It's been at least two decades since I pirated a game though. Probably longer.
A service doesn't get credited as what it CAN be used for but what it's meant to be used on. So no, it would not make it a piracy site just because you have the ability to do that.
For me, I think Piracy got me into buying more games than I would have without it. I remember pirating the first game in a series which I would have never tried otherwise, and ended up buying the entire series cause I liked it so much.
A similar law passed in the UK years ago. ISPs were required by law to block torrent sites. Did it curb "casual" piracy? Maybe...but anyone who sailed the high seas regularly was already using a VPN.
Look into ECH (Echo Client Hello) ISPs can't block any domain, even ancient blocked domains from 10+ years ago are unlocked on ECH. I use it, it's pretty handy. Wireshark shows nothing.
When I have had people not understand email name spoofing I found a great analogy for them. I asked them to go grab an envelope and then I write the name of their significant other on it and handed it to them and said here... You have mail from significant other. The only reason that you know it's not is because you saw me do it. But email in very broad strokes works exactly the same way. Anyone can say an email is coming from someone by writing someone else's name on the front. It's up to you to take steps to determine whether it's actually from them or not.
In EU (In Hungary specifically I know) the price of videogame is 60-70 Euro, as far as I know the same everywhere in EU even tho the wages are vastly different. Maybe 60 euro / months is nothing to a person who earns 2k-4k euro, but most people here earns around 1000-1500. Obviously cost of living differ, but still... (My numbers are based on random statistics I found on the internet, I found them more than what I actually hear people earn, but even my experience is biased so idk... ) The important part is people earn more or less in different part of the EU, but the price is the same. Which sucks heavily in this situation...
60 EUR / month (720 EUR / year) is definitely not nothing to me. It would have to be something that significantly increases my quality of life to spend that much money on a monthly basis.
I pirated Dune and saw Dune Part Two in theatre. Without piracy I would have never watched Dune. I will pirate Dune p2 when the bluray releases and watch part three in theatre. I'm the exact opposite case study of their claim. As long as people people, there will be gay pirate assassins.
A smart way to do a kids computer camp is starting out with the basics. stick the resistors, transistors, diodes, and a breadboard. learn how to build this stuff from the ground up. you can do a kit for under $100/per student. makes the logistics much more achievable
Isp will block pirated streams already, they will either block your device from finding the streams or will disconnect you repeatedly in the name of " bandwidth shaping"
That’s fundamentally not how networking works my dude. Good luck to ISP’s if you use a vpn, they have no idea what’s inside the vpn tunnel from your machine to the vpn company. What, they going to do block all vpns? Then they will be sued to high heavens by every single tech company that uses vpns for work from home. You can just use DNSSEC now as well so ISP’s don’t even know what end node you’re connecting to.
Everyone i know who pirates would never have paid for the content anyway. Thats because they cant pay for it (not released here), or its unaffordable. Nearly every one of them will buy content that is reasonably priced and available. If a sale is lost its because its not easy to get, costs to much or its just bad.
This. I'll just stop consuming the TV content. I haven't pirated games since I was 17 because of Steam and GOG. if TV did something similar I'd be willing to look at it. Let me buy individual seasons for $10 instead of $4 a fucking episode or bullshit $20/mo subscriptions for a bunch of garbage
2:57:00 If I was to add something to cars and make it standard, it would be polarized headlights and polarized windshields, that way oncoming traffic headlight intensity is reduced significantly, while yours is still unaffected.
polarized windshields is a terrible idea, but for the same reason polarized headlights are a fantastic idea and I have no idea how no one has ever come up with that
Piracy of games and music many moons ago made me a fan of some of the franchises/artists and made me spent tons of money on their products, merch, concerts, pc parts and audio equipement. The one game or cd pirated should be considered an investment into a long lasting fan relationship with the industry and artists.
I think the lack of any meaningful demos these days is causing piracy as well because I often download, just to try it. I will then if I like it more than often buy it on steam.
I've done that multiple times, even for short games like untitled goose game where I completed it as a pirate, and then purchased it because it was worth it
@@OverbiteGames no, you're right. the Steam Next Fest earlier this year was really fun and had 200+ game demos that you could try. I still pirate to try games, but if a game has a demo I'll defer to that first. the game had a demo before the Next Fest, but I'd highly recommend Echo Point Nova if you like fast shooters, awesome game (and fantastic demo)
The game boy advance was my childhood, not having a backlight made up for the AA batteries, but the experience was horrible. Didn’t stop me from logging thousands of hrs though :)
My suggestion for handing the Roku TV ad issue is the same as my advice for handling any intrusive or untrustworthy device, connect it to a dead net, a WiFi network which has no route to the internet. This of course prevents the device from phoning home, but also ensures that it doesn't stay in a provisioning mode. This is important because some devices are vulnerable to attack if left in such a mode.
I have just received my delivery for the tax write-off Dropout sweatpants and they are the best fitting and most comfortable sweatpants I have ever owned. I will definitely be buying more, so maybe the tax write-off sale was worth it after all.
I enjoyed HBO Max for a long time. Now that it became MAX, I cannot use it anymore because it's not available in Europe 🙄 And the worst part is that they kept charging me! 😡
@@NorwayDuck nope. When I opened the HBO Max app on my phone after the switch, it immediately showed a message saying that the service wasn't available in my region. Maybe it is available in Norway, but not in the Netherlands
My punk band from high school has a pirate song we made around 2002, and it’s a yo ho ho type song, very fun to play live. Miss those days, it’s only on CD so I still have to upload it to my PC 20+ years later.
My Friend did download some shows on my parents internet years back and they straight up shut our internet off until we call the company to get it switched back on, that sucked because we did not know what happened until we called
Larian is 100% a AAA studio and BG3 is 100% a AAA game. It's a giant studio with multiple locations around the world with a huge budget for their games AND they got a big investment from Tencent who owns 30% of the studio.
Maybe we aren't shouting from the rooftops "REMEMBER THAT TIME LINUS KICKED PIA TO THE CURB?", but understand that that move added a *ton* of credibility in my eyes, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Taking the conservative approach with sponsors is greatly appreciated.
On the piracy topic, music is in practically the opposite state. We have streaming services which are great value for money, but we also still have CDs and services which sells digital copies like Bandcamp and 7Digital. I like to run my own home server with music streaming, which I can only do legally because I can buy my own copies. In contrast, with movies and TV, digital copies basically can't be bought and Blu-ray ripping is not easy, assuming you can find a Blu-ray for the thing you want.
@@faber3969it is t just smaller musicians, we had to take it to congress with the music modernization act just to try and get a fair share from atreaming. As it stands now, not only us but a whole lot of large bands only make money from shows and festivals rather than any sort of album sale or stream.
@@CreamAle Spotify can't pay more because they've never turned a profit (they lost half a billion last year alone) and consumers will turn to piracy if they increase their subscription fees. That's why it's dumb to act like piracy doesn't hurt anyone. They may be great value but the entire model is unsustainable.
@@faber3969 I can't share contract details but a channel that just earned their right to monetize here on CZcams will make more than a large band. I'm saying this knowing exactly how much quite a few bands make from streams and their cd sales. Metallica, gojira, me/mastodon, foo fighters, jinjer, ghost, etc.. money we make is almost purely from live performances rather than any merch, stream, or cd sale as that's all label money... we literally had to take it to congress to try and earn a better pay and have better regulations for it. Spotify isn't there to make us money it's there to make them money.
They can start with blocking: - Google - CZcams - Disney+ - Prime Video - all other streaming sites You can use these sites to copy copyrighted material, so they are as complecent to piracy as YuZu was. R.I.P YuZu.
-Timestamps-
[0:00] *Chapters.*
[1:33] *Feedback for FP beta feature, Terry Fox shirt is now live.*
[2:37] *Intro.*
[3:04] *Topic #1: MPA's CEO to work with congress to block piracy websites.*
> 4:34 What would this do to VPNs? Linus's ISP notice for pirating.
> 7:54 Luke on blockbusters revenue, impact of localized piracy.
> 9:22 Pirating games and not buying later, lost sales from piracy.
> 13:10 Linus on media production industry's issues, hiring argument.
> 15:56 Streaming, Letterkenny DVDs, AI upscaling films, mastering issues.
> 23:52 Luke's attempt to have plausible deniability, "pirate hat."
> 25:04 VPN sponsorship? misleading talk points, Tom Scott's videos.
> 28:57 Transparency, revenue, hosting liability ft. On-set viewers.
> 38:29 Linus tells Colton to get PIA sponsor.
> 41:30 Canceling ASUS after paying for LTX, booths cost, Luke at Open Source.
> 46:14 Ethical gambling sponsorship? casino, gambling & addiction stories.
> 54:30 Game sponsors as an exception, GambleYourFriends idea.
[57:57] *LTTStore's new zip-up mock neck & pocket shirts.*
[1:01:02] *Merch Messages #1 ft. Many cameras.*
> 1:01:27 Whatever happened to IceGiant Cooling? ft. Mute Luke Button.
> 1:09:24 Coolest tests LTT Labs are coming up with?
> 1:11:44 Daily driving high RR OLED? Stripped down WinOS ft. LukeHasNoClue site, 6W monitor.
[1:18:54] *Terry Fox Foundation.*
[1:20:39] *BC Children's Hospital charity auction stream on Whatnot.*
[1:23:28] *Tenstorrent's CEO Jim Keller to star on the next WAN Show's stream.*
> 1:27:55 Tenstorrent product names, summarizing Keller's work history.
[1:31:18] *Sponsors.*
> 1:31:29 AG1.
> 1:32:36 Ridge.
> 1:34:01 Vessi ft. Luke might report Linus to his boss.
[1:36:40] *Topic #2: Apple relaxes restrictions on App Store, allows emulators.*
> 1:38:15 Apple's new framework to aid repairshops, hardware pairing.
> 1:39:27 iOS default apps, Luke uses Firefox mobile, recalling FP poll.
> 1:43:51 Linus questions Twitch's ad breaks, Luke's hypothesis.
[1:45:53] *Merch Messages #2 ft. FP poll results.*
> 1:46:18 Slay the Spire 2 is on Godot, Clear Code's 11 hours tutorial.
> 1:49:36 Should game companies switch to open source engines?
> 1:51:19 Would Linus get on The Yard? ft. KBMOD & WoodysGameTag.
> 1:55:30 Tall sizes soon plz.
> 1:55:40 How would you source hardware without a hardware recycler?
> 1:59:30 HDDs struggled with filled capacity, is it the same with SSDs?
[2:03:45] *Topic #3: Texas Education Agency replaces graders with AI.*
[2:08:41] *Topic #4: CZcams's Playables still available despite end of life.*
> 2:10:47 Linus finds a potential slow mo bug, still loses.
> 2:15:02 Odd games, questioning who made them, "you are failed!"
> 2:18:12 CZcams is losing its identity.
[2:19:40] *Topic #5: ROKU patent for showing ads when pausing HDMI devices.*
[2:24:12] *Topic #6: dumbwireless sells well amid social media craze.*
> 2:26:03 Advice to not use Teams as a social life, KilledByGoogle.
[2:29:48] *Topic #7: Former Google engineers launch AI music maker Udio.*
> 2:31:26 Listening to Udio's "Wow..... I Didn't Know That."
> 2:32:38 Person generates songs about Seth $h!tting his pants at work.
> 2:34:18 Dan's thoughts on AI generated songs.
> 2:35:49 Udio's options, copyright, "pilk" song, Dan's reaction.
> 2:38:40 Excellent Rectangle's Tape to Tape.
> 2:40:27 Dan on the songs AI is trained over, niche music genre.
[2:42:07] *Topic #8: The_Crew's subreddit is deleting comments.*
> 2:43:09 ShortCircuit's video on Minion router.
> 2:44:33 Linus could write better lyrics, Suno shows analytics.
[2:46:38] *Topic #9: Instagram's filter can blur nude images.*
[2:50:11] *Topic #10: Discord removes Suyu & Sudachi servers & dev accounts.*
[2:53:45] *Merch Messages #3 ft. Savage Jerky returns.*
> 2:56:34 What technology you want to add or remove from cars?
> 3:09:11 How do you focus on your own well-being despite the public figure pressure?
> 3:18:14 Any plans to extend the LTT hat line to include bucket hats?
> 3:21:17 A pink multi nep shirt? ft. Microfiber cloth shirt.
> 3:24:14 What would game studios do to combat flopped AAA games?
> 3:33:41 Udio LTT Christmas album?
[3:34:57] *Exclusive FP content.*
> 3:36:16 Super Chexx exclusive FP stream after WAN Show.
> 3:37:27 Dan tries to leave, camera tracks him instead.
[3:38:03] *Topic #11: XBOX creates new team to preserve games compatibility.*
[3:39:18] *Topic #12: The Verge's article on AI & interracial prompts.*
[3:44:28] *Topic #13: Android AirTags soon to be available.*
[3:45:10] *Topic #14: FCC requires nutrition labels for ISP plans.*
[3:46:22] *Merch Messages #4 ft. WAN Show After Dark.*
> 3:47:05 How can I show my family the importance of cybersecurity?
> 3:50:48 What do you look at when choosing a shirt printer?
> 3:51:45 What do you think about the fresh water situation in BC?
> 3:53:41 Chances of WAN Show not being weekly anymore or if CEO says no?
> 3:54:05 Thoughts on achievement hunting within games?
> 3:58:12 Chaotic deals Linus made during WAN Show? Is he banned from offering?
> 3:59:48 Why are the USB 3.2 Gen 2 adapters for 10 gigs not ubiquitous?
> 4:01:57 Is it just me or are the new LTTStore shirts neck openings big?
> 4:02:21 Have you seen XOC influence AMD & Intel's products?
> 4:04:43 Stories with tech deaf people?
> 4:05:46 What knowledge base do you use?
> 4:06:53 What has been the biggest culture shock as LMG grew?
> 4:10:06 Thoughts on CZcams's new UI change?
> 4:11:35 Why does VPN lower my internet's performance?
> 4:12:22 New bottle cap version.
> 4:12:45 Top three co-op childhood games?
> 4:13:59 What games you want to see reimagined or remastered?
> 4:16:29 Any upcoming features or tools FP devs are excited over?
> 4:17:50 Skills Canada's provincial robotics competition.
> 4:18:05 What process you use internally for product development?
> 4:18:49 What happened to FP as a service?
[4:19:29] *Outro ft. Dan runs back to end the show.*
Side note: This took, literally, all day as my storage died mid live WAN Show...it's 8 PM now. At least computer cafes aren't as expensive as I thought lol.
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Australian here.
Piracy websites have been "blocked" in Australia for around 10 years now. But only blocked at DNS level, so switching to any non standard ISP DNS gets past it.
Also, Disney have stopped all physical media releases in Australia. All I'm saying is, I'm not paying for D+ either.
Yep, Australian ISPs receive court orders stating which sites to block. It's well known that Google and Cloudflare DNS don't have blocks, despite having physical DNS servers in Australia. Not sure how that works, but sure makes life easy!
@@peejay1981 Surprising but certainly wouldn't complain if I lived there. In the UK they block both at the DNS and the IP level - i.e. requests to the IPs with a matching hosts header get redirected to a block page. Truth be told though anyone with an IQ above room temperature would just use a VPN.
Here in the Netherlands only the bay has been blocked. But changing dns solves that yh. Anyways who uses the bay anymore that shit burned Anyway
@@joel345 ISPs can't filter based on http host header, as that part would be encrypted by TLS. It could be TLS SNI that's being looked at, but doubt it.
Same in the netherlands.
"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." ~Gabe Newell
And people wonder why Steam is basically the only platform getting away with a 30% cut
@@KalebLudlowyep call me crazy but i don't want steam to change that.
@@KalebLudlow exactly right. Because we know that 99% of the games there are kept to a standard, and WILL run. No matter what.
@@nathantronThe percentage is definitely not that high. So many old games don'r run that easily on modern systems. Not saying Steam is bad or to blame for it, they let you refund, but your comment just isn't true.
@@KalebLudlowit ain't just that, they are actually doing stuff with the 30% cut they are making. They ain't just pocketing the money. They made the Steam Deck, and they made Steam VR and the software that goes with it.
"...steals hundreds of thousands of jobs from workers..." please. They barely pay the workers they have a livable wage. This is all about increasing returns for stock holders.
Yea, I won't say that every single country and company do the exact same thing, but I've found cases where big companies complained how unfair it is for them to have less profit, but their workers are living in a very bad condition.
There is nothing wrong with wanting more profit. They're just being dumb about it. With the money they spend trying to prevent piracy, they could make better, more affordable content and make a lot more money, like the gaming industry is doing.
It's infuriating that piracy is a conversation again. We literally solved this. Spotify and Netflix single handily killed off a large proportion of piracy, but then they got greedy and it happened all over again.
Got to keep the line going up
It’s because greedy folk at the top can’t keep their hand out of the cookie jar. They always want more, power, money, control.
If they aren't making money, then they aren't sustainable and are likely burning venture capital money. If they are making money (and haven't achieved monopoly status), competitors will want a piece of it and competition will turn them all into money-grubbing, feature-ruining buttheads 🤷♂️
Piracy was only down during that initial phase which can't last... #capitalism :/
Spotify especially is really not a solution at least for independent artists especially with there new regulations. Spotify now requires artists in order to get paid have to have ALL there songs over the past 12 months need to receive 1000 streams in order to get paid. They are also taking a lot of music down from independent artists for “botted streams” when the streams they point to come from their own playlists.
@@BRamen.I doubt a 1000 streams would net you more than a nickel or two.
If buying isn’t owning then piracy isn’t stealing
Too right mate
technically piracy has never been stealing
@@vnc.tyes, you dont get the source code
@@vnc.tnot according to the anti piracy guys...
If nothing goes missing, nothing was stolen.
I can steal a DVD, I can't steal a file from the internet.
Piracy never dies
Very true, hell this comment is probably stolen
@@aaronrdaniels can confirm
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The rule will literally just encourage vpn usage
Exactly nothing will change
And that's the beauty of sailing the high seas
Entitlement never dies
I love the MPAA: "piracy makes us lose hundreds of job and billions of profit"
US average salary: 60k
Imagine each job cost another 60k in overhead
10000 jobs = 1.2 billion
10 billion = 83000 jobs
The vast majority of those "billions of profit" is corporate profit going to rich people/corporations.
100 percent, I don't get people bending over for corporations, that money isn't gonna go to the people who deserve it, it's gonna go straight into some sociopathic ceo's pocket.
People are being socially manipulated... @@nerdrocker89
@@nerdrocker89 who are this "people who deserve it"? If there's no easy way to access it or you don't have the money and piracy solves the issue then pirate it until they make a better product like Steam did. Is the virtue signaling of "CEO's = bad because they're rich blah blah" that's such a cringe college socialist mentality that fortunately only exists within you hyperonline losers that don't get anything done
@@nerdrocker89 Because people have the delusion that they one day will own a successful business and would then want to be treated the same
And that's under the overly generous assumption they are not pulling that out of their CZcams.
9 years ago, the time really flies by
YOOO wassup dude lmao, surprised u watch wan show, only channel that actual keeps pka relevant
If me, a guy living in Europe, was able to see at least the last few minutes of the show live, that means that it was long.
And/or late
4:20 long, nice.
4:20 XD
SMOOOKEEEEE WEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!
I was literally at work in Europe and the show was still going.... EEST time. Smth like 9 o'clock
Big thing for me is also "buy our streaming service before you get to know what we have"... Netflix do not let you know what movies or series they have streaming before you have subscribed. Even when you subscribed, there is no A-Z index.
Streaming services should be forced to be transparent, and should not be allowed to geo block content.
Streaming services should also compete with platform services, not content exclusivity.
That would be great for the consumer.
Obviously that's not going to happen though.
@@user-lz5vh9bb5w Because it's a stupid idea lol. Netflix would've monopolized the entire market, their acquisition costs would be a fraction of what they are now and lots of shows would've never been made.
I don’t know if the geo blocking is their choice.
Geo blocking is not their choice
Geo blocking is absolutely the choice of the streaming services. If every streaming service said no, then they are forcing the studio's hand.
Geo Blocking only works because streaming services go along with it.
Back in the 90's piracy was a big part of my life. Members of my lan club would each download a "chunk" of a game on our 14.4k dialup connections. Then at the weekend we would get together for a lan party and put the "chunks" together and play the game and kick each others butts for hours. Happy days long gone.
Must have sucked to be the guy who brought the corrupted chunk in hey
Beautiful story. Thank you for sharing :)
I thoroughly enjoyed the entire discussion of piracy, and the VPN arguments that followed it.
Also, Luke's "knife" analogy was excellent! Promoting a service does not in any way imply how that service should or would be used. LTT choosing not to sell your own killer VPN shows a level of integrity I admire, but while VPNs remain legal, I have no problem with LTT receiving sponsorship from them. You guys show far more awareness of the issues, no matter how dark, and that is something I have not seen anyone else brave or smart enough to tackle. Thanks for being you.
Thanks for the shoutout 🥰
Congratulations on the shoutout pookiebear
Thanks for the hard work
CZcams has started showing me membership exclusive videos, despite me not having a membership.
It's an interesting advertisement idea, but it's also weird when you click on a video in your recommended and it won't play
It's like an ad that you can't even click.
Has happened to me, too. I think for me it started yesterday.
Same. I hate it so much.
@@bob68361 Turn off tracking and that won't be a problem, they will refuse to recommend ANY video...
It happens to me a lot too. They're trying to goad me to pay for it. I have no reason to.
We didn't know how good we had it with timestamp guy. Miss him
Damn, new wan show was yeeted while I was watching it lol
Same!!
With a lot of people, piracy is a symptom. People look at piracy and ignore that it's usually a problem affecting consumers, rather than consumers being the problem. It's usually a pricing, availability or quality problem. The craziest thing? I've seen piracy sites that operate with no advertisements, that provide cleaner interfaces than legal avenues, that shows how little innovation goes into the legal method of consumption. And the best part? They keep themselves running through donations from viewers. And they get plenty of it. People are willing to pay when the price is right for what they're getting.
Like why the fuck would i pay for a streaming service that will still show me ads and i can’t use at home
Netflix is annoying to use lowers quailty by itself for no reason, cycles content very often and removes good movies, going to piracy is way easier, more convenient, it's not about the price, but thats what companies love to blame instead of improving their shit
@@imoyabrax450Exactly. I really like to watch movies and they all stream on different streaming services, so I would need to pay different streaming services with adds to watch different movies? If their prices were lower then maybe, but since the prices are high FUCK THEM
Maybe because they're not spending billions on content? Maybe because they don't have to pay ISP surcharges for all the bandwidth they're using? Most streaming services are barely viable businesses as they are now. It's impossible to compete on pricing with someone offering the same thing for free.
It's very far from a 1:1 even though I agree with the sentiment. Providing trackers for a file shared via p2p is not even close to actually producing content for one and then streaming it from data centers. The current prices would be a shrug of the shoulders if the economy wasn't garbage and we weren't living in a pathetic political era where everything needs censored or removed.
Good Morning Europe! 🇪🇺
Good morning! Catching 3h of the WAN Show live is kind of new to me.
Morning from the UK 👍 Shame this doesn’t include us anymore 🤣
Thanks ❤
Good morning bro
Morning from South Africa ✊
segment starting at 2:31:06 hits that balance of comedy gold and dystopia that really sets my neurons off 😌
I've never pirated games and once Steam and GoG came along, I never felt I needed to. Movies/TV, I never give it a second thought. I bought bootleg VHS back in the 90s. One of my favorite things when I was a kid was going to my grandparents house and two blocks away there was a guy with a stand that just sold bootleg movies ever day, across the street from the police station. If nothing else, I respect the grind and the police for never rousting him. I'm sure they bought from him too.
Timestamp guy, we salute you in advance 🎉😊😊
😮 where is he
To those who are about to timestamp, we salute you!
@@Numb_ Maybe didn't catch it live and if he lives in NA it's still 10 in the morning there
Still waiting. That son of a nutcracker
Show ran super late, I don't blame them
In the eyes og Hollywood, 1 download = 1 ticket sale
Which is never the case, if they can't download it to watch the movie/show, they just won't ever watch it.
@@Soutar3DG i know that, you know that, but try to tell that to Hollywood
@@Soutar3DG see, you're using the thing that Hollywood doesn't. Common sense
Except it doesn't work that way. The prohibitive costs of hardware in the gaming industry kind of keep away most of the piracy. At least at this point. By the time you're worrying about piracy, your costs are recouped and you've stopped selling it. And in terms of film no no one's going to see these movies. It's not because of piracy. In fact, I don't think their numbers on how much they've lost a piracy are even from any amount of downloads. Because I don't think there's a billion dollars of ticket sales from theatrical releases lost to piracy at least not last year. Certainly not in the US. This seems like it's mostly just a scapegoat for their investors to save face.
Gamers are the most oppressed group of people in the universe
This specific Wan is why I always watch. It doesn't really matter if it is the pseudo- connection, topics, or the acting vs real... Y'all are good at what you do and I just luv it.
4.5 hours WAN show, miracle!! Thank you LTT.
Haven't sailed the high seas in many years.. Doesn't mean I forgot how
The hook may be rusty, but it still cuts deep, if I wanted to.
Problem is, a lot of these zoomers don't even know what is a torrent. It's kinda baffling
@@heramann6916 Can Confirm, I had to go through the process of explaining how it works and how to be safe and what to look out for.
@@heramann6916 Even babushka can pirate over here. Not that I would eeeever condone it or anything.
@@heramann6916you dont NEED torrents for piracy tho. Its just one of the methods. And while it has some benefits, it also has its downsides.
What will the block do? Nothing.
We have those blocks in Australia, it's a DNS redirect that ISPs are required to do that redirects to a "This page is banned" page.
It can be bypassed with a VPN or just changing DNS to Google's.
Of course soon Google itself will be required to implement the block as well.
I'm running a local DNS server on my SBC router and that's immune until the government starts blackholing root servers at ISP level ;)
i am russian, let me tell you, even when your blocking technologies are REALLY good(and they are improving every year), people just learn how to bypass them. Now even my mom knows how to set up a VPN connection
1:41:49 Luke you're a legend! I used to have the toolbar at the bottom on some obscure browser a few devices back and loved it, I had no idea Firefox could do that still and it immediately changed my phone browsing experience for the better.
yeah FF even has addons
How is "YOU ARE FAILED" not a meme already. It's right up there with "I FEEL ASLEEP" and "You spoony bard"
Regarding those blocks of piracy related websites: we already have that in the eu, didn't work. In the EU those are DNS blocks that can just be circumvented by changing your DNS, you dont even need a VPN for that.
They could be more strict about those - But at the end of the day, the legal machinations just work too slowly for how technology works.
If a domain is blocked, you can merely set up a new one, pointing to the same servers.
And then there’s Roskomnadzor in Russia, successfully forcing ISPs to block access to a myriad of supposedly illegal content (though that would also include some actually nefarious content). For the last 10+ years. Only VPN helps, and even those are being blocked since 2022 (corporate VPNs are not touched), only a few services work
@@UshankaMaster yes, I am not arguing that it is not possible, especially in a dictatorship. But let's not pretend Russia is not a stronghold of software and content piracy.
@@amshermansenyeah, I still remember when one of the biggest German illegal streaming sites was taken down only to be back online with a dozen different top level domains 6 hours later.
Not "in the EU". In Poland there are no such blocks here!
Always remember the time the RIAA trid to sue Limewire for $72tn in losses - more money than existed in the entire world economy at the time.
All big organisations quoting losses from piracy are talking out of their rear end, at least to some extent.
Piracy destroyed the music industry, top to bottom. But it was inevitable. It isn't about the massive labels losing money it's about the engineers and session musicians, and songwriters and the culture that got flattened. The massive labels are still there, the culture though is gone, cause people have to eat. The musicians I like the most were hardly famous, but had access to great studios and decent distribution. That's all gone. The margins are so tight, there's no room for semi popular musicians to find a niche. But again, this was inevitable, with the internet and being able to copy a musicians work, infinitely. Just let's not pretend piracy had no effect on music or it was about fighting a big company. Musicians have no control over the supply of their product and therefore there's no value to it. Therefore no revenue. Therefore no investment. There's no putting the cat back in the bag, but I liked music better before Napster.
@@gramma677 I feel like we've seen music go in very different directions over the past 20 years. I've seen music production get cheaper and easier to access year after year, song writers producing from garages and bedrooms, unrepresented bands finding more success on youtube and spotify than some 90s mid-level indies had at the height of their careers.
Oh, and music piracy isn't all that relevant any more. It still happens, but the advent of music streaming services made it a lot more niche. And from what I heard, the labels were caught with their fingers in the cookie jar when it came to streaming royalties so I'm not sure tech can be entirely blamed for lack of revenue from that direction either.
@@gramma677No one pirates music these days
@@tobeqz7065 Yeah it's all streaming now, more convenient, but the damage is done.
@@gramma677 A.I will destroy the music industry, it is insane how good it has gotten.
Last time i pirated music was in 2008, just before Spotify was launched in the UK. Last time i pirated a video was a few days ago, because its inconvenient and expensive to be signed up to every streaming site. As soon as a paid streaming service can give me everything my Plex setup can give me, I'll happily sign up to that. Until then, arrrrr
For me, it's the insane level of local censorship when the show is available, often with certain episode or the whole season basically blacklisted on the service.
Pretty much the only piracy category I'm committed to is that... (plus game piracy is just sketchy AF... as a layman... not like you have a Reddit to ask where to get it for free...)
What happened to todays show just went down and can’t even find in history just got deleted
I really appreciate that you upload the wan show to Spotify sooner compared to before the change when it was uploaded a few days later.
I'm really glad we can do this too now. Thanks so much for letting me know it's appreciated. Means the world.
I agree with Linus, if I own the game, I own the game.
But you don't own the game. You own a license to play the game.
Oh? I don’t own my games? Then what did I pay for, nothing? Pirates also pay nothing. But pirates own games.
You paid for a license to pay the game that can be at any time terminated for no reason, so yeah, basically. @@publicspeaker4009
@@publicspeaker4009 Like I wrote, you pay for the license. You can use that license (use, resell, etc) however you want, but you don't own the game.
You are not allowed to change or redistribute the game or use it without a valid license. (except when the license this specifically allows, or the game is open source)
Owning the game would mean you're free to use it however you want, and sell a copy of the game and not get in trouble, you only own 1 license. @@publicspeaker4009
Great points of convention booths and the challenges with making them unique.
one thing that is great about being in Canada is they can't actually charge us for illegal downloads here, we have levies on all blank media to pay for it so legally they can't touch us. So any means of downloading and using anything off the internet is legal here.
I'm so used to watching this a day late, cuz w/ Northern Ireland time it typically ends around my 5am. I didn't even realise it was still live until 36secs after it ended when the "Live" marker was still on it in my feed :( So sad I missed my chance to finally watch the show live for once. Even if it would have been just the last 1hr.
I run in a Terry Fox Run in Poland about 20 years ago, as a kid, and I had no idea how big of a deal it is for Canadians.
Yeah, it is. I mean, he is one the loonie(1 dollar coin)
1:59:30 - Full hard drives are slower even if not fragmented. Since Drives are mechanical and spin at a fixed speed (i.e 5400 or 7200RPM). One revolution of the disk at the outside of the platter can contain 3x as much data per revolution as data stored on the inner parts near the spindle. Drives write outside in for this reason. So your drive gets slower steadily as it fills just based on circle geometry.
Honestly, if some game is no longer available, it should be free to copy. they can't lose revenue if they aren't selling it. its not as if they couldn't make it a dollar on steam. I'd buy an official copy if it was available, but in the case of a lot of older games, there is but one choice, piracy.
Freelancer comes to mind
Their belief is that you shouldn't be able to do that and instead buy their new games.
Nintendo follows that ideology. Stop looking to the past, only enjoy new things. At least until they want to selll you a remake or remaster. Then it's suddenly okay.
Not how that works. It is dumb but the law is the law. This is how books get lost to time when there is no one to ask to license them from. You can’t just publish a book that is no longer being sold and is still under copyright.
@@swiftdragonrider pirate gonna pirate. idgaf what you say the law is.
It reminds me of companies that, when their product doesn't sell, they destroy it before throwing it out so homeless and other dumpster divers can't have it. It's not just about making the money, it's about ensuring the "right" kinds of people enjoy their product.
Waiting for timestamp guy!
You shouldn't stop calling your merch merch. This is the standard that every merch creator should strive for.
what should it be called then?
@@phosphorus9867 dude, I said they shouldn't change the name so it should be called the way it's called
@@Ryuu44 oops misread it
I watched a couple of brief documentaries about Terry Fox after watching this. I cried a lot. You crazy Canadians picked a good national hero. I’ll be buying a shirt.
POV: you came here because this week’s wan show went poof.
I won't spend 200$ on monthly subscriptions for movies and the only reason I have access to every subscription service is through family. I would use those apps, but it's straight up more convient to watch on one website. Seeing one of my favorite movies jump from 3 different platforms in less than a year is enough for me to not use any app. It's amazing how much worse it's been to watch anything these days. Movie theater popcorn costs as much as a nice meal at a restaurant and the seats are more expensive than an overpriced subscription cost.
@@PippetWhippet It's easy to figure out no matter which way you do the dates. You guys and your pointless "I LIVE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY AHHHH" wars, fucking hell.
@@PippetWhippet As an American, I agree we do dates in a weird way. Honestly, that's the least of the issues. Oh, god, don't get me started on very small distances. Fuckin fractions of an inch is ridiculous. Fahrenheit for temperature is fine, though, and I'll die on that hill.
@@PippetWhippetISO-8601 gang rise up!
@@Nopulu2-3-2024 can be two different dates. Knowing what country's format is being used can be very important.
you people always have something to cry about
Uk has these isp bans. They don’t work. Are bypassed easy.
Also if I own the game I own it damn right I’ll backup. And some people can’t afford to keep the freezer full so let them download
It's the same in Sweden. ISPs are forced by the law to block torrent and illegal streaming sites. This can be bypassed without a VPN and just doing a DNS change. I'd still recommend using a VPN, though, even if it's been a while now since someone last got a fine for downloading something.
Same for SG, DNS change is pretty much enough to bypass...
3:13:13 Thank you LMG and you Linus for being there as voice of reason, as representative, as a like-minded person/group and what you all have accomplished there for us!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They tried to block pirate websites in Australia almost a decade ago, and we all learned how to change the DNS in windows!
Yeah some ISPs here in Germany tried to DNS-block a couple of years ago too - which just lead to most people I know switching to cloudflare or Google DNS at some point and forgetting about the block even happening
The amount of people that are shocked when I show them this, is crazy... Even tech literate people, So I honestly imagine that the DNS block is fairly effective for around 80% of people...
Here in Australia it's not illegal to download pirated content, the legal responsibility is on the original supplier/uploader.
I show and tell people this, and reason to them they dont really need to pay for a VPN, if they where only using VPN's for acessing pirated content.
@@QuinnKallisti I am in Australia too. I remember the old days of Optus cable internet where we chopped movies up into multi part archives and uploaded them to the Optus news groups. 😂
then bit torrent caught on and the Pirate Bay was born. About 10 years after that the government finally managed to get through legislation to require isps to ban pirated sites if a movie studio asks them to do it. At which point people used DNS or VPN to bypass it. There was a time where some isps would forward notices from movie companies and even disconnect people if you got multiple notices but this didn't last after the first legal challenge, for the reasons you mentioned, that it's not illegal to download a pirated movie, it is only illegal to provide it.
@@QuinnKallisti maybe it's more widespread here because the first page of Google when looking up what the block message you were redirected to meant was instantly filled with tutorials to circumvent it and even some newspapers explained how easy it is to get around
@@Dommifax Maybe Australia is generally more apathetic, or I have accidentally surrounded myself with common drongos.
Piracy is a distribution problem
and pricing. when going to the theater costs as much as buying it....
Piracy isn't a problem.
@@FaZekiller-qe3ufnot if you are a pirate, clearly. And, even then... Enjoy viruses, less features, etc.
@@TheInsaneupsdriverdistribution includes pricing.
@@FaZekiller-qe3uf Unless you're a musician and your product is seen as an entitlement, just because it can be copied. Pirate all you want, but don't rationalize it like it's not kicking dirt in the face of all the people that worked on that thing you want to have for free. I don't think piracy will ever go away, but at least people should face the fact of being a parasite, not rationalize piracy like it's something to be proud of. And I bought tons of pirated albums when I was young, but I don't pretend it was the right thing to do.
Tbh I’d prefer if LTT was sponsored by a good VPN so I know which one they would prefer because usually if there is a problem with a sponsor the LtT community speaks up and it’s usually resolved or abolished from the sponsor spots.
LTT already had two major VPN sponsors, Tunnel Bear and PIA, but they both got bought out by companies with shady history, so Linus has decided to not take anymore VPN sponsorships.
The only VPN I trust nowadays is mullvad. No need to sign in, 5 devices and if you want you can send cash to their office to get a subscription.
Who bouggt PIA@@Play-On7
Mullvad and Proton are the best VPNs
I use a pro siphon elite on my 7900x3d and I have no issues. In Aida 64 it never gets above 70° and when it does it drops back down immediately.
They will never stop us online pirates :)
Most people I know here in rural Kansas get pirated dvds when new movies come out because the vast majority of people don’t have internet and movie theatres are over an hour away. None of the families I know actually have a computer or internet only cellphones.
As someone else from central Kansas, I know several people who also still use dial up, because they have no other option. When you want something, but can’t get it, you’ll probably find a way
What the fuck?
I don't pirate in the sense of downloading, but I do use apps/sites to watch movies and tv shows...everything is scattered across multiple streaming services. I can't afford to get hulu, prime, netflix, disney+, peacock, etc
Luke talking about his little mcnuggets is so wholesome
Being from sacramento ca and hearing Dan talk about death grips warms my heart
Make the service not be shit and I may consider not pirating stuff. Get rid of geoblocking and if I buy a digital thing, I want the actual file that I can run wherever whenever
When I was young 90% of commodore 64/Amiga games were pirated.
Luke is correct, we would never have bought them if we couldn't pirate them.
It's been at least two decades since I pirated a game though. Probably longer.
This one was unusually good-- packed with information on things I care about!
Piracy doesn't remove the original. It's not stealing.
You guys have notices forwarded from isp? I've never had such a notice xD
If CZcams has videos that violate copyright laws, does that make CZcams count as a piracy site?
A service doesn't get credited as what it CAN be used for but what it's meant to be used on. So no, it would not make it a piracy site just because you have the ability to do that.
I love this 4.20 hours episode
The amount of times Luke was cut of my Linus and Dan hahaha, poor guy
For me, I think Piracy got me into buying more games than I would have without it. I remember pirating the first game in a series which I would have never tried otherwise, and ended up buying the entire series cause I liked it so much.
A similar law passed in the UK years ago. ISPs were required by law to block torrent sites. Did it curb "casual" piracy? Maybe...but anyone who sailed the high seas regularly was already using a VPN.
ISPs are also really lazy and haven't updated that block list in forever
Yeah and it doesnt work either, the sites that were blocked just changed their url and carried on
Look into ECH (Echo Client Hello) ISPs can't block any domain, even ancient blocked domains from 10+ years ago are unlocked on ECH. I use it, it's pretty handy. Wireshark shows nothing.
yes, as a UK resident I cannot access eztv or piratebay. this is why pia says I am in France.
@@michaeljeacock if only there was a website that could, hypothetically, unlock steam games?
Steam
Unlocked
When I have had people not understand email name spoofing I found a great analogy for them. I asked them to go grab an envelope and then I write the name of their significant other on it and handed it to them and said here... You have mail from significant other. The only reason that you know it's not is because you saw me do it. But email in very broad strokes works exactly the same way. Anyone can say an email is coming from someone by writing someone else's name on the front. It's up to you to take steps to determine whether it's actually from them or not.
In my Mini when in eco mode you can get a fish displayed and he is happy if you do well and he gets a stressed face whenever you accelerate too quick
No Friday Wan show??
In EU (In Hungary specifically I know) the price of videogame is 60-70 Euro, as far as I know the same everywhere in EU even tho the wages are vastly different. Maybe 60 euro / months is nothing to a person who earns 2k-4k euro, but most people here earns around 1000-1500. Obviously cost of living differ, but still... (My numbers are based on random statistics I found on the internet, I found them more than what I actually hear people earn, but even my experience is biased so idk... ) The important part is people earn more or less in different part of the EU, but the price is the same. Which sucks heavily in this situation...
60 EUR / month (720 EUR / year) is definitely not nothing to me. It would have to be something that significantly increases my quality of life to spend that much money on a monthly basis.
@@marcellkovacs5452 yerly?! god. Wish you better times friend! But, yeah, my thoughts exactly!
36:17 It's a necessary conversation that needs to be held.
3:03:24 you can get live fuel flow rate from an OBDII display. And yes it is pretty much a linear fuel consumption increase with throttle position.
I pirated Dune and saw Dune Part Two in theatre. Without piracy I would have never watched Dune. I will pirate Dune p2 when the bluray releases and watch part three in theatre. I'm the exact opposite case study of their claim. As long as people people, there will be gay pirate assassins.
I bought the blu ray, used, for 6 bucks.
Where can i find a gay pirate assassin?
Dune pt 2 2160p (27gb) is now available for download. I watched it 3x in the cinema so pirating it for my collection feels ok lol
Exactly how I feel and what I did.
@@rubenalfonso2919 Everyone's gay if you're at sea long enough. They don't have to like it
The money you dont spend on games, still goes somewhere. From a kebabshop, to a study. It still provides jobs.. but in other area's of the economy
A smart way to do a kids computer camp is starting out with the basics. stick the resistors, transistors, diodes, and a breadboard. learn how to build this stuff from the ground up. you can do a kit for under $100/per student. makes the logistics much more achievable
can't watch without timestamps
Isp will block pirated streams already, they will either block your device from finding the streams or will disconnect you repeatedly in the name of " bandwidth shaping"
That’s fundamentally not how networking works my dude. Good luck to ISP’s if you use a vpn, they have no idea what’s inside the vpn tunnel from your machine to the vpn company. What, they going to do block all vpns? Then they will be sued to high heavens by every single tech company that uses vpns for work from home. You can just use DNSSEC now as well so ISP’s don’t even know what end node you’re connecting to.
Everyone i know who pirates would never have paid for the content anyway. Thats because they cant pay for it (not released here), or its unaffordable. Nearly every one of them will buy content that is reasonably priced and available. If a sale is lost its because its not easy to get, costs to much or its just bad.
This. I'll just stop consuming the TV content. I haven't pirated games since I was 17 because of Steam and GOG. if TV did something similar I'd be willing to look at it. Let me buy individual seasons for $10 instead of $4 a fucking episode or bullshit $20/mo subscriptions for a bunch of garbage
Yes, it's simply an act of greed. Nothing more.
2:57:00 If I was to add something to cars and make it standard, it would be polarized headlights and polarized windshields, that way oncoming traffic headlight intensity is reduced significantly, while yours is still unaffected.
polarized windshields is a terrible idea, but for the same reason polarized headlights are a fantastic idea and I have no idea how no one has ever come up with that
I just wanna say that the WAN show intro is the ONE intro I never skip for some reason. Almost has a "code monkeys" vibe. 😆
Piracy of games and music many moons ago made me a fan of some of the franchises/artists and made me spent tons of money on their products, merch, concerts, pc parts and audio equipement. The one game or cd pirated should be considered an investment into a long lasting fan relationship with the industry and artists.
I think the lack of any meaningful demos these days is causing piracy as well because I often download, just to try it. I will then if I like it more than often buy it on steam.
I've done that multiple times, even for short games like untitled goose game where I completed it as a pirate, and then purchased it because it was worth it
@@OverbiteGames no, you're right. the Steam Next Fest earlier this year was really fun and had 200+ game demos that you could try. I still pirate to try games, but if a game has a demo I'll defer to that first. the game had a demo before the Next Fest, but I'd highly recommend Echo Point Nova if you like fast shooters, awesome game (and fantastic demo)
The game boy advance was my childhood, not having a backlight made up for the AA batteries, but the experience was horrible. Didn’t stop me from logging thousands of hrs though :)
My suggestion for handing the Roku TV ad issue is the same as my advice for handling any intrusive or untrustworthy device, connect it to a dead net, a WiFi network which has no route to the internet. This of course prevents the device from phoning home, but also ensures that it doesn't stay in a provisioning mode. This is important because some devices are vulnerable to attack if left in such a mode.
Instead of the classic pocket on the new t shirt, they should have made it deeper and shaped more for holding a smartphone.
ive been pirating stuff for almost 20 years and for most of it i never used any sort of protection and never got any notice or punishment
Gdamn pirate captain over here lol
I have just received my delivery for the tax write-off Dropout sweatpants and they are the best fitting and most comfortable sweatpants I have ever owned. I will definitely be buying more, so maybe the tax write-off sale was worth it after all.
I have fun with WAN show. Thank you LLD.
I enjoyed HBO Max for a long time. Now that it became MAX, I cannot use it anymore because it's not available in Europe 🙄
And the worst part is that they kept charging me! 😡
Reporting my credit cards lost or stolen is my super power for canceling subscriptions as a consumer.
Can you not use the HBO Max app where you live? That's what we use in Norway, and it works.
@@NorwayDuck nope. When I opened the HBO Max app on my phone after the switch, it immediately showed a message saying that the service wasn't available in my region. Maybe it is available in Norway, but not in the Netherlands
Yes
Yes
Let's have a moment of silence, for the fallen pirates.
If it wasn't for all their hard work, I wouldn't be printing a darn thing.
My punk band from high school has a pirate song we made around 2002, and it’s a yo ho ho type song, very fun to play live. Miss those days, it’s only on CD so I still have to upload it to my PC 20+ years later.
My Friend did download some shows on my parents internet years back and they straight up shut our internet off until we call the company to get it switched back on, that sucked because we did not know what happened until we called
where o where did you go mr.timestamp man. :( i hope you are well!
Where is timestamp guy?
LTT needs to pay one of their employees to do timestamps live. I don't know where "timestamp guy" is but we shouldn't have to rely on him for this.
Larian is 100% a AAA studio and BG3 is 100% a AAA game. It's a giant studio with multiple locations around the world with a huge budget for their games AND they got a big investment from Tencent who owns 30% of the studio.
Maybe we aren't shouting from the rooftops "REMEMBER THAT TIME LINUS KICKED PIA TO THE CURB?", but understand that that move added a *ton* of credibility in my eyes, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Taking the conservative approach with sponsors is greatly appreciated.
On the piracy topic, music is in practically the opposite state. We have streaming services which are great value for money, but we also still have CDs and services which sells digital copies like Bandcamp and 7Digital. I like to run my own home server with music streaming, which I can only do legally because I can buy my own copies. In contrast, with movies and TV, digital copies basically can't be bought and Blu-ray ripping is not easy, assuming you can find a Blu-ray for the thing you want.
Yes but the transition from CDs and downloads to streaming decimated earnings and a lot of smaller artists can't live off their music anymore
@@faber3969it is t just smaller musicians, we had to take it to congress with the music modernization act just to try and get a fair share from atreaming.
As it stands now, not only us but a whole lot of large bands only make money from shows and festivals rather than any sort of album sale or stream.
@@CreamAle Spotify can't pay more because they've never turned a profit (they lost half a billion last year alone) and consumers will turn to piracy if they increase their subscription fees. That's why it's dumb to act like piracy doesn't hurt anyone.
They may be great value but the entire model is unsustainable.
@@faber3969 I can't share contract details but a channel that just earned their right to monetize here on CZcams will make more than a large band.
I'm saying this knowing exactly how much quite a few bands make from streams and their cd sales. Metallica, gojira, me/mastodon, foo fighters, jinjer, ghost, etc.. money we make is almost purely from live performances rather than any merch, stream, or cd sale as that's all label money... we literally had to take it to congress to try and earn a better pay and have better regulations for it.
Spotify isn't there to make us money it's there to make them money.
@@faber3969yeah I mean that's more of a spotify issue than a piracy issue.
They can start with blocking:
- Google
- CZcams
- Disney+
- Prime Video
- all other streaming sites
You can use these sites to copy copyrighted material, so they are as complecent to piracy as YuZu was.
R.I.P YuZu.
3:00:00 Not having to drive a car, sounds like a bus/train system that actually works and gets you where you want to go.