Monkey Kungfu Style Dismantled By Muay Thai
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- Amazing demonstration of the ring effectiveness of Muay Thai. This is a Muay Thai fighter from the gym of famous kickboxer and actor Billy Chow. Contending against Muay Thai is style of kungfu called Tai Shing Pek Kwar (Da Sheng Pi Gua Quan 大圣劈挂拳). It's a hybrid Monkey Kungfu style that seems to have originated from Southern China. Either way, we have one of the coolest style vs style matches. Please go subscribe to the original channels too where I found the matches! Hope you enjoy my commentary! If any of you know more about Tai Shing Pek Kwar, please let me know!
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• 第十場 譚志揚 (大聖劈掛) VS 蔡學中 ...
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0:00 Round 1
2:08 Round 2
4:13 Round 3
6:16 Winner announced
6:27 Third round rewatch in slowmo
9:00 Realizing it's Billy Chow's gym
11:01 Outro ft. Po the Havanese
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Again, how epic is it that we stumbled on a Muay Thai fighter from legend Billy Chow's gym? Make sure to follow him here: czcams.com/users/BaanMaa The direct link to the match is in the description.
Also, big shoutout to the owners of the cute dog at the end for being in our outro. For those of you on IG, make sure to search: po.the.hava
I live for your kung fu uploads as I'm a blue sash in choy li fut and its soooo hard fighting decent kung fu fights...
You wanna talk on discord sometime about martial arts? just something casual? maybe could be good for an upload.
Kinda funny that the most successful "monkey style" technique is apparently a one-two straight.
kinda funny many fans claimed straight punch as their own style 🙄
Didn’t see any of the RIDICULOUS monkey Kung fu moves 😂
And he didn't do the monkey screech even once!
Guy really willing to fight w Kung Fu. My hats off to him.
It’s not a bad martial art I mean sure he didn’t win but he can obviously fight
There was a big movie star, who was also a full contact champion and triad bodyguard, Chen Kuan Tai who was trained at this school in the 60s and 70s.
That's right. Mr Chen Guan Tai, 陳觀泰the ex movie star.
Chen Kuan-tai actually won the Southeast Championship in 1969(?) which led to him being in the movies
Billy Chow is an absolute legend for martial arts movies for sure! The discovery of that at the end was epic. He had major credibility as the general in Fist of Legend, you can tell he can really fight.
Yeah, it all makes sense now. You could tell even in the movie that Billy Show was used to taking hits. It's just funny that they took Billy Chow's Muay Thai hardiness and made it "Japanese." If only I knew Billy Chow's training when I first saw fist of legend. Before Karate started adapting, it was getting destroyed by Muay Thai. So during the Huo Yuanjia days, Karate definitely didn't have the Billy Chow toughness.
@@FightCommentary Right, didn't Karate overall, particularly Shotokan, take the roundhouse from Muay Thai because of its dominance? Billy Chow played a lot of villains in Kung Fu movies back in the day because I feel his height/reach and his legitimate skills made him such a believable threat.
@@FightCommentary The first time Karate met Muay Thai was in the 50s. It was three kyokushin practitioners vs 3 Thai boxers(in lumpinee stadium). Karate won 2-1 and only lost once due to the fact that the guy who lost wasn’t supposed to be competing to begin with and only competed in place of the other guy.
@@WarriorBoy karate borrowed its kicks from savate after interactions with french traders and sailors
@@WarriorBoy
Savate
The Channel is 周比利's gym, and the organiser of that tournament is his gym as well, but the Muay Thai boxer is from 剛嵐泰拳健體中心
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literally! lol
You need to understand other styles in order to have a game plan against them.
Great vid!
Live reactions are the best
Hello, I watched Li Jingliang's high profile fight last night and I recently learned that Zhang Lipeng was the winner of The Ultimate Fighter China. Are the perceptions of MMA and Traditional martial arts in China changing?
I haven't shown anybody this yet because this is pretty low key for now, but a company was helping put some of my videos on Chinese social media. The coolest thing I learned from that experiment was the level of anti-BS among Chinese audiences too. Chinese audiences in the comments were surprised people in America were so attuned to testing out and calling out martial arts BS. They thought it was only a Chinese thing. So it goes both ways, I think inside and outside of China, we're all trying to help weed out scammers, but we just don't talk to each other much because of China's firewall. But I can assure you a lot of passionate Chinese people are trying to bring the combat sports and martial arts realism forward.
@@FightCommentary Wow, thanks and congrats on expanding into China.
A lot of hong kong celebrities practice this style. The Muay Thai guy is so methodical.
You should do a vid of the old fight of khabib where he lost to another in a sambo match. Analyze their techniques. It's really good.
I think monkey kung fu cant be used in safe duel, because the attacks are consisted of pressure point techniques and violent attacks like eye poke, groin attack, and things like that.
But the defense techniques may be used in mma fight. Some of the defense techniques are consisted of spring body mechanics that slowing down very strong attacks (this is also used in wing chun) and some opponent body control mechanic to make a takedown
Thought monkey style is about pouncing and grappling.
The kung fu guy should probably have a padded staff to equalize with the muay thai guy.
"My face in your fist style, how'd you like it?"
It was in 2010? I wonder where these guys are now, skill wise.
An older Kung Fu star, 陳觀泰from Bruce Lee generation was Far East Kung fu champion representing 大聖劈掛門before his movie career. The style likes to use cow horn hook punch 牛角拳and hammer fist
I will take a look!
@Fight Commentary Breakdowns 陳觀泰story
czcams.com/video/8c1frX8mVq8/video.html
@@FightCommentary That's Chen Kuan Tai.
i saw no monkey what so ever from the guy in the red trunks. looked more like an amateur fighter than anything else honestly.
Two things struck me as odd from this fighter compared to the Monkey I have practiced
#1 lack of kicks
#2 lack of jump kicks
#3 lack of desire to take things to the ground. monkey also involves a lot of clinching, sweeps and pulling to the ground.
another thing i noticed is his legs looked kinda weak, i know genetics plays a big role in muscle mass, but if your training monkey for a few years you would have bigger legs than even a Thai Boxer.
I practice Shaolin style Kung Fu. The reality is most of the high stylized thing we do in form and training isn't full applicable in a real fight unless you're a high level master.
Every fight will just look like a fight no mater the style.
Yep. I see what you're saying. Considering how much deep squat is in Monkey styles, from my understanding, looking at the calves of monkey fighters is a good little heuristic to ascertain certain things. Thanks for your comment!
@@B..B. shaolin monkey style is specifically for show and performance period please do not try and fight a trained fighter with it
Bro, pretty sure that guy is from the original school in Hong Kong. Very famous. Post your video against a thai Boxer. Guy had balls and went some rounds where as 50 years ago when kung fu was pure they couldn't make it out of the first round.
@@nokungfuforyou323 what do you mean when kung fu was pure?
You know someones about to beat your ass when:
1. You punch them and they don’t react.
2. They’re never out of breath.
3. They’re relaxed.
The Muay Thai checked all three boxes lol.
Most of the KungFu stand are from weapon holding, you wouldn’t hold a spear at your head level right?
Is that why they keep losing in every fight? 😂😂😂😂
Muay Thai guy is just a machine, tired machine by the 3rd round, but still going on like a machine. Lol
This fight should be in kickboxing rules.
The 'rising of the kneel when punch' is one of a move in the kata of 大聖劈掛. And the kung fu guy seems relatively new to fighting on stage.
Also,大聖劈掛門 started to include modern boxing and Thai boxing in their training in recent years. If you want to see more 大聖劈掛movement, another keyword will be 冼林沃(who beat a Japanese opponent in a tournament in 1983 in under大聖劈掛門)
However, 大聖劈掛門is a kind of 'modernised' kung fu. From his ft., we can see 大聖劈掛門 has been adopting modern combat sport element and it suppose to be able to fight the clinch
Here are his video ft. czcams.com/video/qm5YPpVnM6c/video.html
Yep. That's a match we will cover soon too!
Thai guys seem to be pretty good at just not caring about strikes
Tends to happen when you live spar/full contact train your whole career
Is that a good translation? Wouldn't Monkey kung fu be 猴拳？Wouldn't 大聖劈掛 be Sun goku kung fu by this logic?
I have much respect for the history of Hong Kong martial arts. I find that the Hong Kong martial arts scene is a bit more progressive and evolved than some of the lowbrow "style vs style" fights we see out of China and the outright cons, bullshido, and jingoistic propaganda driven garbage we see glimpses of on CZcams, that they air on their "state TV" where some 70 year old taichi master is throwing an alleged "black belt in judo" master with a shoulder shrug.
Actual combat martial arts was suppressed in Mainland China for decades under Maoism. That's what gave the rise to sport wushu which is more of a performance art akin to gymnastics. It was only recently in the last 20 years or so that China started promoting practical forms of martial arts like sanda.
Hong Kong, which was under British rule until the 1990's evolved their martial arts much differently and under the democratic freedom of British rule which is why "monkey style" here looks more like kickboxing than actual stylistic kung fu. It wasn't state controlled.
Long before we became aware of Brazilian vale tudo and MMA, Hong Kong martial arts were already experimenting with full contact "style vs style" matches way back in the 1980's which was the tail end of the golden age of Hong Kong kung fu and martial arts: czcams.com/video/QquDpDJTVHU/video.html
The man fighting here, Ron Van Clief, had a brief career in film, and later went onto fight Royce Gracie in one of the early UFC matches. He was in his fifties at the time and fighting with a broken ankle.
I try to have my fighters destroy our opponents in the First Round .
You know how we have knock off products....do you think there were knock off Kung Fu back in the day and that is why we came out these random Kung Fu names
Kung fu guy is smaller , so this was an uneven match off the back
The only Monkey Style I’ve seen is that awful LARPing from Paulie Zink in the 80’s. Does anyone know if this guy’s fighting reflects a kind of stylized kung fu?
I don't see Monkey Kungfu here???
Hahhaa this is in Hong Kong, my hometown
I had read a bit about a monkey style that contained "pek war" in its name. So it's a style from the south huh? Very interesting. He did a solid effort and showed WAY more common sense and practicality than other kung fu guys. Still, got outclassed and I agree he did have his hand too low when he started to get beat up, no matter your style or strategy, when you are getting rocked it's time to defend yourself responsibly. I also find weird that he basically didn't know what to do in the clinch othe than block or jam some of the knees his oponent threw at him. I don't know about this thai shin pek war style in particular but some basic monkey posing I learned is easily translated/aplicable in the clinch.
Yeah! Makes sense you would have done some Pek War. Pek War translates to two different types of strikes. And like you said, you'd think monkey would have lots of clinch techniques. After all, if you see how monkeys fight, they definitely have lots of close range attacks.
@@FightCommentary it is curious for sure. I’ve never trained in any monkey style but yin style Bagua contains a monkey animal system and it’s like 90% clinch techniques and kicks
@@unmessable12 please show me! I love seeing stuff like this! The more obscure stuff, the better!
@@FightCommentary two people from my teachers lineage fought in a MT match in China recently actually! Been meaning to send them to you as well as my own sparring footage. Pretty cool stuff since they’re both pretty up there in age but still getting in the ring.
@@unmessable12 please share it with Jerry would absolutely love to see that!
I practised Da Sheng Pi Gua Quan a bit when I was much younger, and this Kung Fu guy is not doing a good job. Da Sheng Pi Gua Quan was designed to suppress
Muay Thai.
He got tired
Give him banana and the fight is over.😅
Underrated comment!
I cant see any monkey kung fu here...eheheheh
@RAWSNL jokes aside, he looked more like a trash kickboxer...no monkey kung fu there
I will throw balled up wet toilet paper on your living room's cieling.
there wasn't any, He must be new to the art.
I don't know about monkey Kung fu, but oddly most MMA/boxing/Kick boxing fans claimed basic punch & kick as their own 🙄
Terminator Thai
Nothing looks monkey-like. A human can only mover limbs a few different ways.🤣
That Muay Thai guy is Muay khao, i myself is a Muay femue
Thank you man! You're exactly the type of audience I want to comment more. Thank you CZcams algorithm for reaching the people who train!
@@FightCommentary well, i follow your chanel from long time ago since i also interested in weird unusual martial art and their aplication in real fight
Look for Muay Boran fighters
Honestly we didn't see anything particularly original to Kung-fu nor to a Monkey. It's just Muy Thai vs Unexperienced street brawler.
Of course, Muay Thai doesn't monkey around. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏🙏
I mean, how much can you acrobatic around in the ring?? Not much.
I do wonder, if the monkey style is better in the MMA cage... I have seen Capoeira practitioners using the cage against their opponents, so why not monkey style??
I've been messing around with Capoeira and monkey together. One day I'll post some stuff. Nothing too cool yet.
Predictable
thats no monkey Kung fu
the thing about monkey style is...they can only hop for a minute before running out of breath & got kicked in the head
No hay kung fu ahi...eso es boxeo 😩
Didn't really see much monkey here, even the TSPK branch. True monkey would not adapt well to MMA, somethings a monkey fighter would do: eye gouges, rip your ear off your head, pretend to be hurt, crumpled on the ground then when you come in to finish the fight, lash out to the groin or outside of the knee. Try to take the back while their opponent is standing.....In short, anything weird or against the rules = Monkey. The Shaolin branch of Monkey is a little different, it is rooted in hard qigong, also more for self-defense not for sport, again no rules. If you fight a Hou Quan/Hou Xin practitioner in the street, don' t worry. If you get to the hospital fast enough they should be able to sew most of your parts back on. Just hit the call button when you regain consciousness.
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