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Prosthetic Hybrid Vacuum and Pin Socket Suspension Systems
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- My current system is a hybrid vacuum/pin system. The pin at the end of my liner clicks into the bottom of my socket for a strong physical connection. You can hear it click, and you know it's on. However, the connection isn't quite as solid as other systems. The result is al little pistoning with every step.
With the vacuum seal in conjunction with the pin, there's a little more stability. The pin provides the security, and the vacuum seal gives a more solid direct connection. The way the vacuum works is that there's pump built into my foot that uses my weight as my foot rolls from hell to toe to actively vacuum air out of my socket.
Overall, I really dig my current suspension system. I still have some struggles with the vacuum seal breaking when I bend my knee, but it seems to be caused by my short residual limb rather than any issues with the system itself. With a shorter limb, there's simply less surface area to maintain a constant seal all the way around the inside of my socket.
Notes & Links:
These are the links for my current system.
Ossur Iceross Seal-In X Liners
www.ossur.com/...
Direct Socket TT with Unity Vacuum System
www.ossur.com/...
www.ossur.com/...
Pro-Flex XC Torsion with Vacuum
www.ossur.com/...
Editing by Kap:
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Thanks for doing these videos dude, even if you're not getting alot of view's, the quality of the information is awesome!
Wanted to thank you for the information! I'm a relatively new amputee (since 12/26/21) and got my first socket in April of '22. My residual limb is short like yours and I've been having a tough time getting the right fit for a socket. My prosthetist suggested the hybrid system and I found your content. This such good info!
Thank you for this. Getting my first one in about two or three weeks, and with the rough year I've had so far, I'm hoping it will be the easiest part of the transition.
I appreciate your video. I was recently fitted with a VASS and it was a terrible experience. The day I got the test socket, wearing it was painful right from the start. After I lost the leg it was two years before insurance kicked in but when I went to try out my very first temporary pin locking socket, I stood straight up and walked like I never missed a thing. I did in fact, come home and you've never seen a man so excited and happy to mow his front and back yard. Yes, I over did it but I was happy as could be.
Now back to the VASS...when I took it off at the end of the day my limb was painful and there were three HUGE blood filled blisters due to a vacuum leak within the socket. For the last three weeks I have had to be on crutches or a wheelchair. Needless to say, I will NEVER use anything that has a vacuum pump or vacuum assisted suction socket.
Have you ever had any problems like that?
Just found your channel and I love it! I am learning so much! I am still a fairly new amputee and haven't gone beyond my first "training leg". Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience with the rest of us!
I have lived with a crushed ankle for over 30 years and had it fused 20 year ago. Contemplating BKA. Trying to learn. . .I have thought about it off and on for 20 years. . . And the thought of running again would be awesome. If people have "warnings" I'm open to hearing.
Need to watch this a few more times. I have the same prosthetic had it for a month and having a default time. My hanger guy is Just to busy lately so I must be my own advocate and figure it out.
Hi my dad use tochange my mom’s linner for her. He recently passed. How do I get pin/ screw out to change the liner? What tool do I use todo so? At one time my dad showed me and I did it. However, I forgot what tool we used?
I’m an RBK for 7 years, started with a pin lock then went to a simple vacuum. Time for a new leg. I’m thinking of a socket with an assisted vacuum it’s a Rush foot. Have any other suggestions?
Great video men! thanks its very helpful, btw, can you roughly give me a price range for this entire setup? I
I'm a new amputee. I'll be getting my leg of the 30th of this month.
Couldn't you have just used socks to correct the loosness in the socket?
I just started watching your videos, but I just want to say that the information you provide is super helpful. Could you perhaps tell me how new the pin/seal-in liner combo system is?
That's great to hear! I'm really digging it. Due to my short resiual limb, I'm using two of the outer seals instead of one, and that made all the difference in the world. That way, instead of 3 rings to seal it in, there's 6. So even if movement in my socket breaks the bottom three, the top three keep the seal nicely. For sports and high-impact activities, I'd still add a sleeve over it for extra security, but it's definitely my favorite system I've ever had.
@@AdaptableOrg hi, how long is your residual limb? cause i also want to try the same system as yours but im thinking would ı face same problem as you. mine is 11-12 cm
I’m looking at something similar with an elevated vac and its been a failure at every turn. Do you know specifically what pin system you are using?
At minute 5 you talk about buying "a pump" off of eBay. Can you clarify? By a pump I assume you mean an active battery -drive pump as opposed to the passive mechanical pump that Ossur has integrated into its Unity system pump. A few more details on the snowboard foot would be great. I have a BioDapt alpine foot and am looking at the same scenario. Also, you have a link to Ossur One Fit Direct Socket. Have you found that to work? I'm in Colorado also and curious what clinic you worked with.
that pump is harmony p3 by ottobock.
Thanks for the info and explanation I have the same problem with my suction system the seal breaks very often please let me know if you hss as ve recommendation for good Prostetic Clinic thank you
It totally depends on your location. Mine is in Denver and has been great at always going the extra mile to get things just right. With my new system, I'm actually using two sets of the seals so there are 6 seals instead of just three. It's not perfect, but it makes a huge difference in the fit.
You got this. Mine is from Clinic Hanger in Néw York .Denver it’s to far for me can you tell me what’s the name of Prostetic place in Denver maybe they have another place in my location or closer Thank You.
@@lucas9mtb393 I’m on Long Island and go to International Prosthetics they take very good care of me and others check them out!
Sebastian .T thanks Sebastian will check
Hey brother how are you doing I've been watching the bills my first lost my first leg the other day now I've lost in my left one below the knee what would be the best
Best company to go with since I got a chance cuz I just got Medicare and they have to make both legs again so I'm like to be able to move around and hiked all around lake what should I have please be truthful
The try to give me the same ones as last time I want to be able to hike do everything what's the best ways I can't afford a lot so hopefully this gets covered truthfully the first one hurt so bad always and have you tried the Martin give me some advice please soon please soon as you get this I got to go see doctors tomorrow about which one I'm going to go with and then just going to throw it in my face and make me take what they want to give me I want to be able to make a decision I want to be happy I want to be proud to be a man I want to feel like a man again it's getting really tough for me I never thought twolegs would be so much worse almost bike tomorrow I have to see one of doctors I appreciate you my name is Don kucharski
I just got this leg, it is my first one since my amputation. Thank you for all of the info because my prosthesis didn’t tell me what anything did or was for. Same leg and same shoes!!?? Are those hey dude shoes?
You got that same set up?? I'm almost healed hoping to get this set up 🤞
I have a vacuum BLK and I like it but I feel the liner alway crunches up or my leg gets sweaty and I feel I’m falling out of it. I used to have the pin and felt more secure.
try using the socks it comes with or another sleeve.
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Great info. What kind of prosthetic foot do you have in this video?
It's the Ossur Pro-Flex XC Torsion with vacuum pump: www.ossur.com/en-us/prosthetics/feet/pro-flex-xc-torsion
@@AdaptableOrg Thanx
I got the same system because of this video and no regrets. I'm now working to use this socket with a running foot, any advice here?
Unfortunately, I don't have any advice on that front. My running foot is still set up on my older sockets with a suction system. I would imagine that you should be able to add a sleeve to this setup and it would work. You'd just lose out on the vacuum. Otherwise, I'd think you'd have to have the vacuum attached to the socket somehow. For my non-vacuum foot, I found a used Ottobock P3 on ebay, and I use that. But it's too tall to fit with my running foot.
@@AdaptableOrg appreciate the quick response. I'm going to look into the p3. I'll comment back if we find something that works with the hybrid system. It has been a game changer so far.