Hobie kayak cart modification with a Compass, no lifting, no flipping the kayak
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2018
- Installation and removal of a modified Hobie scupper cart while on the water without needing to turn or flip the kayak.
Instructional video on how to make the pvc handle yourself. diy:
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Amazing that Hobie can invent something like 'Mirage Drive' but leave us all out in the cold when to comes to solo launching. Great workaround in this vid...!!
Thanks!
Thing is Hobart Alter created the mirage drive and he retired a long time ago (he also passed away in 2014). His family / company has just been milking the patents for every cent they can before they expire (Whole reason they put out passport line was to compete with all the clones after the original patent expired). bonafide and Boone Dox make far better solutions then Hobies extremely overpriced scupper carts (also seen plenty of PA hulls fail because of carts cracking the scuppers).
Lotta steps but beats cold hands. Nice idea nice vid
You should get a patent for this.
That’s gotta be in the top 5 most Genius, simplest, easiest kayak mods I’ve seen on the internet!
Two thumbs up! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Rick!
I've been struggle launching my Hobie Compass by tilting and losing my fishing gear etc. Thanks for sharing your info
John, thanks so much. I’ve hurt my back wrapping around my hobie to extricate my cart in the water. Now I can just do it from the top. It will be a back saver. Nice job.
Glad to be able to help my fellow kayakers
Smart way of solving the whole issue of kayak wheels.
That was awesome! Now to just lose enough weight to be able to turn around in the seat without making a big splash! 🤠
Or install pontoons
This is the best solution I've seen. However, now I just leave the wheels on most of the time. Unless you have to pedal a long way to the fishing grounds, just leaving the wheels on is best.
I have to give you a giant pat on the back..... I knew there must be a way..... Very ingenious.... Way to go and thank you for sharing....
Thanks. I didn't want to flip the kayak or get into the water for installation. Came from the boondox landing gear and I figured there had to be a better way with the hobie cart
What a great idea! I have to try this on my Compass. Thanks for sharing!
Just did this for my Compass and just want to point out some things:
1. The clearance on the sides is very tight. I butane torched a post on the cart to soften it and bent it a little out to give me a little more clearance. Be careful not bend it too much the tolerances are actually quite tight to be able to fit in the scupper hole.
2. It will be easier if you glue the t-handle so that its oriented 90 degrees to the wheels.
3. When putting the cart back into scupper hole when its time to go home, sometimes the post will get stuck against the plastic lip inside, simply grab the metal post of the cart itself and pull up.
Thanks John for sharing, say good bye to cart flipping!
Great tips! Are you on the Facebook owners group? You should share it there if you are.
Brilliant innovation. I regret not buying a scupper hole trolley. I have seen a CZcams video of a Lake Macquarie NSW Australia kayaker (Paul Farrell) who uses bungee (stretch) cords to pull his trolley into position. A great assist to users of scupper type kayak trolleys.
Thanks!! I made it! Actually bottom part of pvc pipe was broken on the first try. I replaced bottom part with metal pipe and it works well!!!
This is absolutley genius, well done mate!
Thanks! Still works for me.
Now that really is brilliant! Nice job!
Solid work sir!
This is awesome, thanks for sharing!!!
WoW!!!!!!!!!!! One of the best mods ever.
I just bought a 2020 hobie outback and on a recent trip struggled to not lose my gear. This is such a great idea and having the same cart, I will definitely need to try this. You should consider making and selling the pvc portion so the masses will only have to do the drilling.
Thank you. It doesn't fit on your 19 and newer outbacks because of the increased width. Good luck with finding a solution for your yak!
That was an ingenious idea.
ingenuity at its finest!
Amazing! You definitely need to patent...I'll buy one for sure!
Really cool idea
how
genius !! great!
Award worthy 🏆
You smart bastard, you!
How fucking clever is that! Well executed!!
Genius. Absolutely genius.
Thank you! What a great idea!
Genius! Thanks for sharing!
That’s ingenious!!!
Your a genius. You just saved me $261. Thank you for sharing.
what were you going to spend the $261 on?
LaMadrid81 maybe Boondox landing gear, my guess
I agree with one of the early posts.....seems Hobie could develop something similar....again thanks dor the tip.... I will get to work on one ....
They would probably sell it for $99 or more. It's also limited to the narrower range of their kayaks. Compass and smaller. The current generation outback and PAs are too wide for this, which I assume is where most of their sales are. Good luck with the build.
Congratulation! Very good!
This is great, can’t see it working on a PA14 due to the width but will check it out. Thanks.
Clever idea!
Awesome idea
Well dang, look at the big brain on this guy.
saved the marketing guys at Hobe some work!! i’m sure this accessory will be available for a mere $250 soon! 😝
This video should have blown up!
Sweet! Great mod!
I'd also like to know what exactly that clip is called. Can't seem to find it!
That is awesome!!!
You should have more subscribers - I'm subbed and binge watching.
:-D
Crap that's genius! Dont mind me stealing your idea ;)
Very good. 👍🏻
Your brilliant thank you
Awesome!
If you are not an engineer, perhaps you should consider that as a career - or career change! Ingenious!
Thank you!
Es sorprendente.. ¡¡¡¡¡¡ Eres el único, el primero, muchas gracias amigo. Lo haré
Great video thanks for sharing! Does this work on a 2020 outback?
great idea ,
Nice , I like it
Genius 👍🏼
Brilliant
Genius!
Nice!
Love it Love it! I have seen versions where they add weight to the cart so you don't fight the buoyancy. I love the T handle idea to be able to rotate the cart. Where do you find that little spring loaded gizmo ?
Thanks. Search 6mm paddle spring snap button clip on eBay or amazon
Patent that now! 👍🏻
Awesome idea! But with those stupid big blow up tires it's virtually impossible.
Try this czcams.com/video/mSuK5s8N-CA/video.html
Yeah, not possible with the beach cart.
Yeah, I have those too. It would be impossible
Hey John, this looks great. I noticed you added something on the cart where the original Hobie "caps" were removed. Did you use some kind of tape?
Great
Nice
Great idea hobie should hire you.theg pay thefe engineers millions and you spent 2 bucks awesome man
those clips on amazon are no longer listed, I wonder if you could just use a pool clip? the ones that go on skimmers etc. - gonna try this pretty soon to cold in the winter to wade out to my knees to get that stupid cart under there -- great idea!
Wow. Great idea. Wonder if it would work on a Outback
I haven't heard of anyone doing it on an outback, but I'd be interested to know if it fits as well
@@JohnNguyen4 this does not work on a 2019 through 21 outback. i just tested my HD cart to see if it would fit in the scupper hole and outside the kayak and the outback is too wide for cart. great idea tho and was going to do this for my outback. Josh Bister
Proto type! Make a molded one and Patent it
INGENIOUS! great job with this idea! where did you get the little pin to connect the handle to the cart and how did you attach it to the pvc? Did you glue it to the inside of the pvc pipe? 👍
If you search "push button spring clip" on Amazon, there are plenty of options. 6mm is close enough to fit the 1/4 inch holes of the Hobie cart. I have another video on how to make the handle czcams.com/video/6czaug9CmA0/video.html
It seems like the ends of the poles scrape the sides and bottom of the kayak. Is that electric tape you put on them?
Great video! Love the Compass! What rods holders do you use? I like the way you got yours set up!
Thanks Alec. First I extended the flush mount rod holders with two 18 inch lengths of 1 1/2 PVC pipe. Use a heat gun to soften the pipe to make it fit. Then I added gear tracks to both sides of the tank well to hold the Railblaza rod holders. a.co/d/9aQZbN6
That's clever
I like the concept anyway to adapt to a pro angler hobie because of it being wider any thoughts?
Thx great idea
Yeah pro angler is too wide. 2019+ Outbacks are too wide also.
I would love to know the lengths of pvc you used to assemble this tool! Great work.
I made a follow up video showing each step in making the handle. It's slightly better then what I used in this old video. czcams.com/video/6czaug9CmA0/video.html
Got a link for the clip?
How did you make sure you drilled the holes into the metal at the correct height on the other pole?
It doesn't have to be exact. I think I measured from the top of the post to the center of the existing hole. Then marked the same length on the other post
I got most of it done weirdly I can only do your technique from the left side of the kayak. The right side scupper is off center or something and the cart goes in at an improper angle. Cart goes in fine normally though.
Try it again while you're on the water. The buoyancy of the tires may help in aiming the post to that scupper. Dry testing will only go so far because the weight of the tires changes the straightness of the PVC+post. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
Hi John. I'm looking to make one of these rods/poles for my hobie cart. How long are the two 1/2 inch PVC pipes you connected with the coupling? and where did you track down the button clip that pinches into the cart? Having trouble searching for it. Thanks!
Email me johnzsta@gmail.com and I'll send you the details and directions.
How did you remove the end cap on the pole with the bungee cord? On the standard cart that side is like a glued in plastic and I can't get it out with a flat head screwdriver like the other side that just pops out easy.
You're right, it's hard to remove. I ended up destroying that cap. Used a flat head screwdriver and a hammer. Try a heat gun first?
this is the best cart mod ive seen so far. how well does it work for beaches? also, have you got a video on how you made the tool?
The Hobie wheels shown here won't work well on the beach. The balloon tires will. I may upload a video on how to make the handle and also how to install it in a few weeks
@@JohnNguyen4 oh no i meant, does it work well when you come back in on a beach. i assume you'd have to do it while its still deep before you beach yourself
@@LifeBehindBars_2017 I wouldn't recommend it . The kayak moves up and down in the surf too much and the cart could damage the underside of the kayak.
Wow
Genius!!
Thanks for the great idea!
I wonder if it would also work with the sand tires. I figure they're much more buoyant than the regular tires, especially the large sand tires.
Is it hard to fight the buoyancy of the tires of your cart?
It isn't that difficult with the HD tires unless there is a very strong current. Those balloon tires may be pretty difficult to submerge, not sure I'd try it with this method. Good luck if you do. Maybe use aluminum pipe instead of pvc.
John Nguyen I suspect you are correct. I have the Fold & Stow and I can’t believe how buoyant they are.
can you provide the length for the section of pvc from the bottom end to the coupler and from the bottom of the top pvc to the t-handle?
Sure Marcus, bottom to coupler length is 8.25 inches, coupler to tee is 15 inches. This is taking into consideration the 1/2 inch needed to glue pipe to the coupler and tee.
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This is genius! Is there a way you can email me the parts list if possible? I wanna try this out on my hobie outback and I fish a lot alone and getting the kayak on the cart on the water is easy, but trying to get the cart under the boat without tilting it with full gear is darn near impossible unless I have someone else helping me out. I'd greatly appreciate it!
Hey Mark, what's your email? I see you have a pre 2019 outback. Make sure you can fit the Hobie cart with one post in the scupper and one on the side before you start modding. I know the 2019s are too wide for this method.
@@JohnNguyen4 thanks brother! And yes when I saw this video after I bought my 2018 outback i measured the width of scupper to the cart and it fits between the space. Its fishingwithmg@gmail.com and I very much appreciate you sending over the specs!
Just a thought, but, couldn't you have cut just the pvc pipe and used the whole coupling instead of cutting the it? I just made mine from your excellent mod directions but didnt cut the coupler, instead opting to cut the pipe and cement them into the coupling. I forgot the foam for flotation, so Ill try the expanding foam i used in the Watersnake trolling motor mod. Thanks for the great mod and also on the excellent instructions on the Watersnake mod! Cant wait to hit the lakes here in E Tenn soon as my boat registration papers are processed. I also used your KMart mod for the battery carry case. You Da Man.
You definitely could cut the pipe and use the entire coupler. I did that on my 1st version and had no issues. Only reason why I showed this way was because it was just one less connection.
great idea. wont work on a 2019 or newer Outback! Kayak is too wide for cart to fit in scupper hole and outside of kayak. i was wishing it would work. josh Bister
Any changes in this design? I did the bungee hack but my wife needs help lifting the Compass to get the cart out. I really like this idea.
I haven't changed it much. Instead of using a coupler and gluing two pieces of PVC together, I kept it long and added a stop collar instead. You can see it in this video: czcams.com/video/6czaug9CmA0/video.html
Like garantido
I forgot to mention...I hope this works on the 2017 PA 14
Can you link the exact paddle spring snaps you used? The ones I got aren't tall enough and slip out of the cart holes when I pull up.
8 Clips 6mm - Kayak Paddle Spring... www.amazon.com/dp/B016A8DSGI?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Those are exactly what I got, weird.
@@toddwaters913 try bending the end of the snap where the peg is so that it protrudes out of the pvc more
just tried this with a hobie lynx and the lynx is too tight unfortunately
Can the same be done with the beach wheels?
@@jeffreycarter3066 I've never tried it myself, but it would probably be too buoyant and hard to push underwater.
Will this work on the 2019 or 2020 compass?
I don't see why it shouldn't fit. The hull design hasn't changed at all.
Did this work with hobie big tires cart ?
It may not work because the big sand tires are too buoyant and would bend the PVC to a point where you can't align to tubes to the scuppers.
How does the Hobie cart not fall out when you unclip the handle to move it? Does the Hobie cart float?
Yes the wheels are buoyant so it forces the posts upward. If you lose it, it will float around for you to retrieve.
@@JohnNguyen4 Oh Man, I didn't know that. This is awesome.
Unfortunately this doesn’t work wheel with the sand wheelez because of the buoyancy
Do you have a detailed parts list? Sizes of PVC. Clip etc
I'm out of town right now, but I can give you the parts list and measurements when I get back. we
@@JohnNguyen4 sounds good thanks.
@@noahsheehan6295 Noah, what's your email?
Where do you get that detent clip thing
Search for 6mm paddle spring clip stainless steel on Amazon a.co/d/67D9qEe
@@JohnNguyen4 thank you
For all of the "innovation" that Hobie boasts about, they cant do a better job with the damn cart? That is literally the only glaring flaw with it. Great job with this modification. Terrible job by Hobie.
excellent, but not with balon wheels
Ingenious but don’t think that will work when the stuffs pushing you in…
Good idea …
How much you selling these for? LOL.