Paganism in twelfth century Europe. European beliefs still extant prior to the Northern Crusades
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- Paganism in twelfth century Europe. Not all Europe was Christian in the twelfth century. The Baltic area populated by the Wendish people, the Pomeranians, Prussians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Lapps and Finns and other communities still had its own distinct religions, beliefs and culture. It was only after the Northern Crusades to eliminate paganism and force Christianity on these people were successful that Europe became entirely Christian during the 14th and 15th centuries. This video discusses the situation prior to, leading up to, during and after the Baltic crusades (alternatively called the Northern Crusades).
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
02:57 Rise of the Christian Franks
07:46 Fall of the dominoes
09:36 The pagans of the Baltic
14:06 Prelude to the Northern Crusades
15:36 The ‘Magdeburg letter’
18:28 The slave trade of Slavs
21:21 The call for a second Crusade
24:16 Convert or destroy the pagan Wends
30:36 Chronology of the Crusades
31:58 Northern Crusades - the differences
36:30 Brutality during the Northern Crusades
40:01 Use of pagan children as missionaries
41:10 The primary sources
44:22 The resurgence of non-Christian beliefs
47:06 Catholic church and clergy opposition
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Baltic and Finnic people unite! ❤
Well, we have...
All are in NATO, EU, Eurozone, Schengen zone, ...
Feeling towards oneanother are ... brotherly.
Nonetheless, Baltic and Finnic languages, pagan traditions, etc actually have individual origins.
Ps: about 97% of all Uralic speakers live in the EU...
Lithuania only converted officially, and that was really just the dukes and upper classes. Unofficially, the peasants never stopped and it continues to this day. Pretty remarkable.
Thx for watching! Crusading was on its last legs at that time fortunately and that certainly helped.
What "continues" to this day (Romuva) is more a modern hippy construct. What is practiced today is mostly someone's imagination, and was not passed down from antiquity.
The same also happend in Finland, Estonia and Latvia. Even in Russia, it was common for peasants to worship their old gods at home after coming home from a mass.
@@astronwolf There are quite a few Pagan elements in Lithuanian society, but yes, the modern Romuva faith is fiction.
@@astronwolfI agree about Romuva, but there are some things that we lithuanians do even today. For example we respect grass snakes and if it appears to be living in our property it will bring good luck. There are things like this that are left over in our culture from pagan times.
Hail the old gods, we remember you.
Well put!
The gods die when the city is conquered
@@defoperator7993The gods are eternal. They never die. They are our ancestors, they are with us always.
@@AtlanteanVrilChadyou’re ancestors didn’t have toilets or penicillin they can stay dead lol
"The worst disaster to ever befall the West was Christianity." - Gore Vidal.
Vidal was a left-wing homosexual, amongst other things. Not at all surprising that LARPagans venerate him.
LARPagans have essentially co-opted the postmodern Left’s long parodied atrocity porn narratives, imposing the exact same models of “oppressor vs oppressed” onto Europe’s pre-Christian tribes. It is realms beyond cringe. It is not a coincidence that the majority of this minority subculture, which is almost exclusively confined to the internet, is comprised almost solely of young teens and twenty-somethings and female New Agers. I don’t believe I’ve ever once encountered a neopagan that didn’t play video games and listen to low culture degenerate black metal.
@@charlesmaximus9161 Seethe.
Nah that was Hellenism. The Romans tried to fight it off with revivals of old beliefs and masulinity, but damn they were too seduced by the east. So seduced that they ended up moving the imperial center to the hellenic east. But really the latin west still maintained its bellicosity and will for dominance. The new god, Jesus, was the one that would sanction the latins/"westerners" rather than the god of the Aeneid. In essence western latin christian expansion everywhere is following the same promise of empire without limit that Jupiter promised but christianized.
Without Christianity there would never have a thing name the West
Hard to disagree from a spiritual view,but Christianity was the factor that allowed more nations and ethnicities that do not speak the same language to come under one banner. Europe would fall to raiders from the east if it was not for christianity, or some other uniting principle. We evolved as bipedal ape living in a groups up to 100 Homo sapiens, with the advent of agriculture, big cities that will eventualy rule empires sprang around the bountiful lands. Same as islám did offer uniting principle to the arabs who would never in a milion years overcome their tribal affiliations. My point is that christianity sucks and hijacks old mythologies but it might have been the force that kept europe alive as it is today
Excellent video, a shame you don't have many subscribers, your content is top notch.
Thx! Working on it!
I am not a pagan and I really enjoyed watching this from the point of view of history. I would like to see more videos on the religion of the ancient Balts, Finns and Thracians.
Thx for watching my friend. Hope to create a lot more content on the Baltic people
That picture of Pope Francis in Lithuania reminded me of visit to Lithuania by Pope John Paul II. During sermon or just speach he said "I'm guilty, I'm guilty, I'm guilty" in Lithuanian which is "aš kaltas, aš kaltas, aš kaltas" But he placed accent on wrong letter so it it turned out "I'm a chisel, I'm a chisel, I'm a chisel"
Papal infallibility obviously doesn't extend to language!
Balts and Finougric peoples are distinct from Slavic peoples, You can not put them as only Slavs.
Also the pagan faith didn't die completely, because there was regions and groups of people, who never converted to Christianity even in later centuries. Also many of them, who converted still continued to follow old beliefs. Many of old beliefs was synchronized with Catholic. Even in today many are Christians in name only, they do not attended Churches or follow Cristian rituals. Some pagan celebrations are even officially celebrated in country. There are many atheists to.
Lastly about Prussians. They didn't die out. There are still small Prussian community, with their distinct language and culture. Problem is that no one really recognize them.
Thanks for that - I thought the Prussian language had died out.
>There are still small Prussian community, with their distinct language and culture. Problem is that no one really recognize them.
can you give a bit more info?
@@liveforever141 There are various scattered organisations, groups and individuals in various countries, with different take on self understanding and what it takes to be truly Prussian. I will not name them, considering history. Information can be found, if one wishes, of course knowledge of languages of region would help greatly.
I was also confused when he lumped all together as slavs while for the most part this seemed pretty well researched.
@@liveforever141 czcams.com/video/JTfg0DvHXKA/video.htmlsi=o6ea_wbDuCxma-N6
" we grieve that they always advance " said the bishop as they expanded territory and encroached them ? the christian will scream in pain as he hits you !
The Lithuanians managed to defeat the Teutonic Order and push them back during the 14th century although by that time the Lithuanian monarch had found it expedient to convert for political reasons (Union with Poland)
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 they always go for the elitist first and tickle his fancy.
Just like their desert brothers.
After many months,how are you sir?
As always amzing and the best analysis,about polytheistic europe.
Hey friend, not bad! Glad you liked it. Must apologies for the time gap. Been learning a few more tricks and tips on making videos last couple of months which should help in the long run. (I'm not a natural at videos). Promise to post much quicker from now on - aim to produce one every week to two weeks :)
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 sir please take your time.after all you also have a, personal life at the end of the day.
One of my favorite channels. Glad to see a new video!
Thx mate!
Detail I was searching for. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge! ❤🔥
Glad it was of use!
Can you do a video about Lithuania? I'm Polish and we learn at our history lessons the history of Jagiellonians. We learn that in XIVth century there was a personal union established between Poland and Lithuania, but in order for it to happen Wladyslaw Jagiello needed to become a christian, because Lithuania was the last part of Europe that remained pagan. It's very interesting for me how those pagan beliefs looked like.
Hi thx for your interest. I’m working on a series on the Northern Crusades which will naturally include the Lithuanian conversion. First video should be out next week and is on the Wendish Crusade or rather the prelude to the crusade. Look out for that! But yes definitely will cover the Lithuanian state.
IS NOT JAGIELLO CORECT IS JOGAILA.
This video is excellent. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Really well done and thorough video. Thank you!
Thx back for watching
Thank you for this excellent program, looking forward to more.
As a “Born-Again Pagan Atheist” I was shocked when I understood that there were still indigenous pagans in Europe as late as the 15th Century. Until this video, that was *all* I knew! Thank you Sir Julianus, for giving me a head- and heart-full to contemplate, and even more material to watch. Peace be witchyaaa, y’all!
Pagan atheist is such an oxymoronic label. Pick one and commit.
Appreciate you watching my friend. I'll be doing more videos on the Northern Crusades, keep an eye out for those ;)
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Awesome! I can hardly wait. Peace!
1800's, actually. The Sami officially stopped in that century, while the Mari in Russia are still Pagan in a continuous tradition.
@@wegfarir1963 My God(s)!! I had no frickin’ idea such a thing could possibly be!! I just did a little googling on the Mari, Chuvash and more and it’s almost more than I can believe. Thanks again for passing on the knowledge- it’ll keep me busy for years to come!
My Ancestors on Mom's Side were Wends. Look up Serbin, Texas. GREAT video.
Interesting! As it happens Ive just released a video (part 1) on the Wendish Crusade which might be of interest.
You keep saying that this region was inhabited by Slavic people, but the area of present day Finland and Baltic states and Karelia was inhabited by Finnic tribes (Finns, Estonians, Livonians and Karelians) and the Baltic tribes (Latgals, Prussians, Lithuanians, Curonians etc). Only the shores of present day Poland were inhabited by Slavic tribes. So the Northern crusades were actually crusades against Finnic and Baltic tribes. Livonians for instance were totally wiped out, even though they formed a significant part of the population of present day Latvia. And during the "Northern Crusades", also Slavic people ("Russians") started to move to the Northern regions previously inhabited by Finnic tribes.
I feel for the poor pagans persecuted by the zealots and forced into an unnatural cult. We are still paying the consequences of those forced conversions.
Largely an untold story Sarah. The Middle East Crusade's are far better known.
They still do this in Russia and Ukraine today. Christians vandalize Pagan Godpoles and holy sites.
@@Project_Algiz When you think that the pagan Romans would not only allow freedom of worship but even add the gods of the conquered to their own pantheon, the takeover of Christianity and Islam appears clearly as the brutal imposition and barbarism that it was. Intolerance and fanaticism are built into Abrahamic cults.
@@sarahahmed113 And to think, many of the folks that went through with these acts had no access to the Bible themselves and probably couldn't read it if they did.
@@Project_Algiz Yes, which is a pity because reading the bible is the best way to realise how absurd and barbaric it is.
Thank you for a great summary of what happened in the baltic during those times. Wish you uploaded more often ;)
That's the plan! To make videos much quicker. Hope to get one out every week to two weeks from now on :)
Really great video, thank you!
Hope for more similar content in the future. Maybe you can do a video about the christianisation of Thracians/Dacians. I couldn't find so much information about it. This can be quite difficult.
Thx for your interest. Great suggestion! Would love to look into that as I haven't researched too much into that area.
My family is Litvak. Jewish Lithuanian. After the 1860s we moved from Kaunas to Memelland on the North bank of the Neman river into what was then German controlled Lithuania. We cleared and drained marshes on the North bank and created new farmland. Some patches had been small dry islands with think tree growth and these were preserved for bird populations that would help deal with the insects.
My grandfather told me one of these islands was the meeting place. In the centre a circular clearing ringed with thick planted thorn bushes and then close old trees. At the centre a fire pit ringed with stones. The people who met there knew a path through the old marshes. After that they moved down the sides of the fields. Always at night and by touch of a long stick.
These were the people who kept faith in the old gods secretly while pretending to be Christian during the daytime. I know they were helped by my family up to WW2. How many survived I don't know. but I think such groups existed all over Lithuania and Latvia. I think the still do. That old site had ashes maybe a few weeks old the last time I was there. So people are still going there even though it's VERY difficult to find even if you know it exists.
This means Roumuva is just the public face. The majority of believers maintain secrecy. The "new converts" are I think most likely just those willing to come out publicly as believers.
Wow what an interesting story. Appreciate that! From what I've researched many Jews moved into Lithuania (when it was pagan) to escape discrimination in Christian Poland etc. Need to visit Lithuania at some point!
Would love to see more videos on Augustine City of God in the future.❤
Definitely on the cards! Will be covering the book in future videos on the various topics Augustine raises.
Would you make a video about Christian conversion activities in Africa?
Hey friend. Possible in the future although it would have to be on a ‘ sister’ channel as I’d like to keep this channel largely on Europe and up to the high Middle Ages. But very much open to creating other channels in the future.
great content bro, I'm a big fan of the northern crusades!
Thx mate!
you only have 1,5 k subs? deserve more
Working on it! Thx for watching!
“The only people still pagan were the Slavic peoples around the borders of the Baltic Sea”
Slaps forehead in Finnic.
Sorry about that - should have mentioned the Finns and Lapps also although in the video I was focussing more on the Slavic people around the southern and eastern Baltic
That one somehow got me off guard also :) Perkele Raisk!
It's my understanding that it was specifically Samogitia which was the last region of Lithuania/Europe (excluding the Lapps) which was Christianized - is this correct?
That's my understanding as well
At least half of my heritage is Samogitian. I'm proud of the stubbornness and paganism of my ancestors!
Ir's a good overall summary, although somewhat one dimensional. Northern Crusades in Baltic states were more like everybody against everybody and less like noble last stand of European pagans. During this period you have mix of Catholic crusaders, pagan tribes, Orthodox Slavs, all fighting for dominance. Plus ongoing Mongol invasion of Europe is happening in close proximity.
There were tribes that accepted Catholicism, allied with Crusaders and tried to use that for their political gains in tribal power struggles, only to switch allegiances decades later to fight against Christians. The Latgalians in Latvia allied with Crusaders to raid Southern Estonia, with Estonians returning favor many times over. There were bloody rivalry between Augštaitians and Žemaitians (Samogitians) in Lithuania, where both sides tried to gain favors from Crusaders and use that in their advantage. Lithuanian Mindaugas was crowned as Christian king by Church and campaigned against pagans, Orthodox Slavs and Batu Khan mongols, but was killed in coup, organized by pagan elements in his kingdom. At the same time there were tribes that continued to be a hardcore pagans until the very end. Remains of Latvian Zemgaļi tribe went into exile in Lithuania rather to submit to Crusaders. Lithuanian Samogitians managed to be last ones to convert to Christianity in 1413, but three years before that, they participated in Battle of Grunwald where Teutonic order was obliterated. So one can say that pagans at the end did won over Crusaders. The tribes that accepted Christianity kept many of their privileges and local rulers long after Crusader age - Curonian nobility for example become nobility in Medieval Livonian Confederation .
Regarding Latvian Dievturība, it is a neo-pagan religion that has little to do with tribal beliefs during pagan era. It was invented in early 20th century by Latvian archaeologist Ernests Brastiņš, based on his own understanding of pagan beliefs. There is no evidence that worldview of Dievturi have basis in pagan beliefs.
Watch till the end, brothers and sisters. As a latvian I can just agree to words of author. But our old gods are still alive in our hearts, language and folklore, it's not kinda neopaganism like in Stonehenge
Thx for watching!
In the annales of the monastery Fulda from 12th century it is still found that some farmers did not pay the 10% tax, therefore were not Catholics and still lived according to old law. Germany before reformation was still way more Pagan than people think. In parts of northern Germany they did Pagan harvest blessings to Wotan until more recent decades when they stopped being farmers on large scale due to industrialization and centralization of agriculture.
Thx for that! Interesting
For that harvest blessing they would sit down on the still empty grain floor and throw a head full of freshly threshed grain backwards over each shoulder while reciting the words:
Oh Wode, oh Wode,
Hoal dinen Parden Foder.
In düssem Joar Düssel un Dorn,
To'n annern Joar bäter Korn.
(Oh Odin, oh Odin,
Get your horses fodder.
In this year thistle and thorn,
To the other year better corn/grain.)
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361
Holdovers of N. Germanic or "Norse paganism" was still practiced well after ostensible "Christianization" either covertly in domestic settings or in deep heavy forested isolated pockets of Scandinavia, notably activity in Dalarna and the Tiveden region around Sweden and the far northern coastal areas and islands of Norway.
Thanks for that clarification my friend.
Owned
Sajudis and Atgimimas in late 80s/early 90s triggered post Pagan revival. Even in soviet times in my home town Kaunas there was a ''theatre/cinema'' and ''other'' venue building in the centre of the city called ''ROMUVA''
Will you do an AMA?
May well do at some point my friend - not something I've thought about doing tbh
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 I'd say it's going to be a nice video: knowing your audience, getting them to know you, and it's really easy to make.
In baltics our culture is still pagan,mix of pagan and Christian.many cultural aspects is wery pagan.just simple understanding of after life,ask latvian person,they wery likely will tell u they will join theyr ancestors in afterlife similar to this one,working and living with their ancestors and dead friends
sparing no one they say "where is their god " if they spare no one how does he know what they say ? from the liveleak video ?
Does the author know that balts, finns and slavs are three different people? This area you're covering is mostly about balts and finns! Lithuanian here.
Sorry, I should have made the distinction and explanation much clearer- the area of the Baltic is massive in area, culture and people. The video was a general introduction to the Northern Crusades and I'll be doing specific videos on all the various Northern Crusades in the coming months - including Crusader conflicts with the Lithuanian pagans.
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Cheers mate!
Will you make forced conversions the Jews engaged in the early days, like under the Maccabees?
The conversion of the Idumeans would be a great topic, I'll put that on my list. Thx for the suggestion!
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Sure! I would love to see that.
Ave Jovis
I'm a young english pagan guy love to the pagan community across europe and the world
Thanks for taking the time to watch!
Interestingly, last night I watched a good documentary called Baltic Tribes on a freeview channel. It followed a Christian Danish merchant making his way across pagan Baltic lands in order to trade with them. The production is fantastic and accurate and they go indepth into pagan culture and custom in that area throughout the seasons or particular events in people's lives
Must look into that. Thx! Not a subject you get many documentaries on unfortunatley.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Aye, Baltic paganism is barely touched upon! It is on FreeVee for anyone interested. I watch a bunch of channels related to pagan myth, Survive the Jive, Crecganford, but your videos are often on subjects barely touched upon in the CZcams landscape, greatly appreciate your channel!
What is that documentary called?
@@MugSack Baltic Tribes
Here's a trailer: czcams.com/video/uAVLBvxm0ZI/video.html
There is full movie on youtube, too czcams.com/video/hcOqbEo4zaM/video.html
Just starting thw video but wanted to offer s correction: Sámi ppl (including non-christian sámi ppl) also exist deeoly south of Finnmark, and many were only forced to become strictly christian in the 20th century. Christianity coexisted with traditional Sámi religion, and actually still exists (though extremely damaged by colonialism).
Thx for that! Would love to visit Finland some day and do some videos on the existing Sami practices:). Sad that the coercion continued into the 20th century.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 I think you will have better luck meeting sámi people in Norway and Sweden actually, as there are far more sámi people on that side of the border than in Finland. But I would caution against making videos about Sami religion, the sámi community is very guarded and private, and do not wish to share that information with the world. If you meet anyone claiming to be open about it they are 99% of the time a fake or caught up in some hippy cult thing. I would suggest if you want to make content on sámi ppl, looking more into history and getting information directly from Sami voices. Again, this is best done in Norway and Sweden, Finland has a lot of misinformation on Sami ppl due to political reasons.
You are completelly confusing slavs with balts. Balts arrived at Europe between 3000 and 2000 B.C. Slavs came to Europe at VII century A.C. Balts are also called as Aestii by roman sources.
Thx for that. I should have made the differences more obvious in the video - will do in future.
Sanatan dharmi/Hindu here. We have a long history of fighting the islamic and Christian invaders. We understand how much important it is to protect ones own culture against abhramic evil. I hope one day Europe goes back to their ancestoral heritage and religion.
Christianity does seem to be in rapid decline in Europe and even in America. It'll be interesting to see how things develop over the next few decades certainly.
Don't get us wrong - most of us don't really miss the leather pants, winged eagles, nor pharaohs public seeding performance either...
Generally secular paganism tends to be healthier...
Either way, there's always been preying charlatans around.
Are you Vedic or Hindu? 🤔
@@The-Nightwatch absolutely Vedic.
A lot of Germanic Christians were not Catholic and were, instead, Arian Christians, who had a different Christology.
Constantine the Almighty legacy
Planning more videos on Constantine!
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 As Constantine the Mad Beast or Constantine the Almighty?
He created Constantinople and also very intelligently outmanouevered Paganism with this power base...
Prsise be the Lord !! ...
One Word: Charlamagne. He converted the Saxons and destroyed the Avars, leading to the conversion of the Hungarians.
I and the Father are One John 10.30 👻
Interesting that most Christians use verses from the (non-synoptic) Gospel of John to assert Jesus' alleged divinity. Would you say it's a little strange that this quote from Jesus doesn't pop up at all in the other three and (older) gospels? Surely they would have mentioned a quote as dramatic as this?
It never ceases to amaze me how Europeans are so quick to wipe themselves out culturally and genetically.
Thanks to a desert cult
Christianity helped Europe. It turned Europe from a Backwater (Save for Greece & Rome, who were already powerful) into Powerful Empires spreading European Culture, Philosophy, etc. across the world. You’re crying because you lost.
DEUS VULT!!!
Genetically? What ar you talking about?
@@RoyalKnightVIII Either not having children or not caring about being a people to the point where they breed themselves out with other people. Many folks of European ancestry (at least in America and Canada) see themselves as either generic, not having a heritage and culture, or being some evil doer that should atone to the world by not reproducing European children. They do not see themselves as a people and do not value themselves as such, and thus they see no need to perpetuate their legacy, culture, or people.
@@Project_Algiz what the hell are you talking about you fascist fool.
What does that have to do with the northern crusades? Christian Europe wiped out their own culture.
Lalli ftw.
You're telling me there were no pagans in Eastern and Northeastern Europe? 😂 And there was only one German kingdom 33:20.
Hi! For simplicity sake I show what would be the Holy Roman Empire rather than separate German duchies and states as that would make the map overly complicated. Yes there were pagans in Northeastern Europe and I will hopefully be covering all the Prussian, Livonian and Lithuanian crusades as well in the new year.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 I think you misunderstood me.
1. You said "German kingdoms" which is false as there was only one kingdom, that being of course Germany.
2. What does this have to do with Northeastern or Northern Europe?
@@genovayork2468I think by German Kingdoms he meant the various dutchies and states in the HRE
@@JayGzzzzz You think, Sherlock?
Europa and her peoples have limited success in a pagan world. Northern Pagans have little history of the militant exercise of power beyond the Imperial authority of the Roman cults, in which case always descends into individualist warbands and tribes with differing pluralistic beliefs, whose transitive energy and authoritarian disposition manifests directly into Christianity through the exaltation as Christ as warrior and soldier via monolatry. This metaphysical absorption and transition conserved the Germanic soul, which is didactic and degenerative in these useless modern ancestral appropriations and faiths. The lack of an initiatory perspective, such as in the sacramental rites of Catholicism, shows the juvenile nature of neopaganism and its' lack of sincerity towards the exercise of high caste Aryan thought. These people would make great Christians if they utilized the reverence of their ancestors appropriately to re-vitalize true religiosity in the mobilization of state Christianity as a rationale for ethnic collectivization.
CHRIST Gave My people Life And helped them continue the good fight
Lithuania 🇱🇹
Thx for watching , Will be doing videos on the conversion of Lithuania in coming months.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 thank you God Bless you,
I come from a happy singing religious people
It is a great comfort to me (Brazilian Catholic) that the oppressors have been vanquished, and the Christians are free from the persecution of those who once threatened us.
You guys were and are the oppressors.
@@wegfarir1963 it was the pagans of rome and norseways that brought violence and terror to a peaceful people, christians were used as entertainment by the roman oppressors and fed to lions and sold as slaves by ignorant savages from the north
So the Christians commit great massacres and you think you were the victim?
@@patrickweissel5241 Pagans were punished for their murder of Christians.
Do not disparage the great pagans, brother. We as Catholics owe much of our tradition to those great people, no matter how terrible. The great violence brought by the Germans was necessary to bring about the status of Europe; they revitalized the Roman Empire through blood and soil, and so they took it upon themselves to don the faith willingly in order to beautify history and lay superior to the Latins militarily. These pagans worship the cripplingly conservatism of those ancestors who are forgotten by history, who are defined only by the destruction of their people by those who were militarily and technologically supreme, signified only by their ascension to Empire through Christ. Thus these pagans should be hated because they, unlike their ancestors they claim to be, worship weakness and not the truth that sets before them.
You glossed over the infanticide practiced by the pagans.Also, the wife stealing.
Its almost like you did that on purpose.
There is very little mention if any in any of the primary sources we have of infanticide or wife stealing. I can’t recall any source mentioning these. Rather people like Helmold of Bosau and Adam of Bremen for example complement the pagans on their hospitality and honesty
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 Listen you can hide behind a veneer of intellectualism all you want. But judging on the comment section and your reactions to the comments it seems like this comes from a place of bigotry or religious intolerance.
The idea that all the European pagans were peaceful hippies frolicking through the woods is a modern fabricated version of history.
You don't need to be an expert on history to know most pagan groups around the world practiced human sacrifice in some form and were also usually raiding cultures(slavers)
Flipping the script isn't history
And these unconfirmed claims are enough to justify the extermination of the Western Baltic tribes, and the enslavement of the Latvians and Estonians, for over 700 years?
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@@TheEggeater1111Enough if your anti-white drivel
hahaha wow... the Propaganda is real haha
Thx for watching ! Just released a new one on the First Northern Crusade which might be of interest as well.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 yeah I am sorry but one man's sermon is another man's propaganda.
@@ivanstrydom8417 Christianity would be good for you. Bad you have nothing but hate for religion. Cope!
Im glad the Balts have come to their senses and accepted Jesus.
we were coerced and forced to.
When Protestantism arrived to Latvia and Estonia in the 16th century, the priests reported that the locals still openly practiced their native beliefs.
Your desert cult failed, and it is rapidly dying out both in the Baltics, and in Europe in general.
@@UlmanistLatviaAnd the paganism are just barbaric cult
@@UlmanistLatvia lgbgq or islamwill be new religion soon there...
@@kestutissamogitian1899 Oh but it won't.
am pegan from Livonia (Curomans)
Salute! Thx for watching!
Glory to the Romans, both pre-Catholic and Catholic, imperium sine fine datum nobis latinis deo patre.
Death in the name of Jesus was equal to be sacrificed to Old Gods
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_Crusade
Thx! Great summary on Wikipedia.
@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 A very good book as well: Lithuania Ascending: A Pagan Empire within East-Central Europe, 1295-1345 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_Ascending