There are some movies that are SO hard to watch because they make you feel absolutely uneasy and pull you down into the darkest hole of horror that you can imagine and even lingers for a long time. A bad feeling right inside your guts. "Christiane F." for example or Werner Herzog's "Land des Schweigens & der Dunkelheit". And of course... "Johnny got his gun" as well.
@@tldogmeat oh god please no. Not that abormination… Seriously… i'd rather watch "Salo" or "964 Pinocchio" several times in a row than "Men behind the sun".
My high school art teacher showed us this movie in class back in 1987...well before the Metallica video. It was massively disturbing, gave me nightmares for a time, and has stayed with all these years. Mrs. Sheets was my art teacher. She was blind in one eye, but she was able to see things that those with 2 eyes were totally blind to see. She left a great impression on me, back when teachers actually gave a shit about the students that they taught. This movie is so criminally under-rated, and i think it should be mandatory viewing in high school. I had my 15 year old son watch it with me, and he said it was pretty disturbing, but glad that he saw it.
He’s trapped in himself, body his holding cell.....the landmine had taken his sight, taken his speech, taken his hearing, taken his arms, taken his legs, taken his soul, left him with life in hell... So sad.
These stupid comments take away from the horrific reality of war that millions of boys have had to suffer and die from that this book and movie were explicitly made to shed light on. It’s not fucking funny or original.
@@aquaticspasticp5024 That movie is just depraved lol Johnny got his gun hits a deeper level of horror in my opinion, but not at the same intensity as a serbian film
I saw this movie after I got drafted to go to Vietnam, by Gods grace I had a better outcome , I am sure there are thousands that experienced something like this , but then just think what hell could be like forever , get right with God .
My dad was in Viet Nam. '71-'73 I think? Every man I see wearing his Vietnam ball cap I always stop them and say hey my dad, too. So this is my CZcams version of that. He doesn't know I've done this since I was in highschool in the 90's. Our relationship is....well......yeah.... I love my parents. They did they best they knew. Put us kids first. Too much back story. Let's just say the old man would be surprised to know that at times I have admired him. Bragged to ppl what a strong, invincible, tough, hard working motherfkr he is. How proud I was of him, simple, uneducated, factory working, cattle raising hay throwing, man who stuttered only because his tongue was too short and deformed to touch the roof of his mouth, back of his teeth to make the sounds. No culture, no airs, very simple Ohio Appalachian Valley kind of guy. Who became passionate about the V.F.W and became learned quartermaster, commander, community and civic duties, learned to meet senators in Washington, and become a very polished, professional, commanding man. And years later in Columbus Ohio, National Convention, receiving his 'white hat' speaking to thousands......he didn't stutter, hadn't in years. Simple, humble, and good he metamorphosed and became so much more, accidentally, honestly, and worked so hard for the POW MIA cause for no reason than passion.....the opposite of all he'd been taught, lived, and tried to beat into my skull. It was for passion, rightousness, idk what I'm trying to say. But it was something to see. And I'm positive that I'm the only person, not even mom, who actually noticed and watched mesmerized, inspired, proud, and confused AF! You'd just have to know him. Not too much good to say bout the guy.....I'm honest......damn stubborn, wrong, egotistical dumb bastard. But years after that war, I watched him attain true glory because of that war in the most unexpected way. I hold those years really close. And that's why I never let a Vietnam Vet pass by without saying "Hey.....my dad was, too"
I am one of many who probably was not aware of JGHG before I saw the video for One which was years after even the song's release but I managed to find the movie on vhs at a local video store & rented it. It is good war(anti) film & a bit of surreal cinema.
SPOILERS: I find the darkest part of this movie, more so than the end where Joe is begging for death, is the scene where Jesus himself tells Joe that he is hopeless, that his real life is a greater nightmare than his dreams, and that he needs a miracle. Jesus, a miracle worker. Jesus, a symbol of love and hope. Jesus, who sacrificed his life for the love of mankind, tells Joe there is nothing he can do and asks him to leave for fear of his bad luck rubbing off. This scene shows how alone and isolated Joe is. Mankind has locked him away in a broom closet and shut the windows, keeping him a secret. So. Not only has man forgotten him, but God himself has forsaken Joe. I can't possibly think of a more heart breaking and disturbing thought. This movie is truly an underrated masterpiece that even retains its power to this day.
The book is a devastating indictment against war. I actually read it back in 1990 on my way from Japan to Bahrain, to join my ship for the beginning of Desert Shield and then Desert Storm. This was not a good choice by me (I also had read Ron Kovic's "Born on The Fourth of July" en route to Bahrain) seeing as I was getting ready to participate in something that could have left me like Joe in the book. It's just as relevant now as it was in 1939 when Trumbo published it. I still would like to see the movie -- I'm familiar with the Metallic music video "One" that has scenes from it.
WW1, I would say, is the war that changed the world (or at least Western Civilization). With how terrible the body count, mutilations, and yet how they romanticized war, it’s no secret that most people ditched that ideology.
Did they? I see Russia going to war, China and North Korea providing weapons, USA and parts of Africa on the brink of Civil War or at it right now, large parts of Europe calling those fleeing from war "invaders", North and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Turkey and Greece pitched against each other, as well as all their neighbor states pitched against Israel and also funding terrorists who cowardly hide and attack from amongst civilians regardless of retribution coming invariably to hurt the entire population. I don't see people effectively acting up against any of this. But I see large profits made in the military/industrial complex and its firm grip on international and national politics.
The book is so different . Even the ending was different he didnt ask them to kill him . The book rediculed freedom and democracy and honor . They are just words
Can anyone let me know how realistic this movie actually is? Like how long would he live if this happened? Is it possible to survive this at all? And what could the army and hospital do to help this man
I believe someone like this could be kept alive indefinitely. Due to the fact that they would be on a respirator, deadly pneumonia would be a (thankfully) constant threat. Also, for unknown reasons, a respirator turns the brain into actual mush. So, long-term there would be consequences. Some people have experienced "locked in syndrome" after being in a medically induced coma. They can't move, speak or open their eyes - but they are fully conscious. One young girl was like that for YEARS. Her family were told that she was completely unaware, however she was very, very aware. After several years, she regained her abilities to move and communicate. Her family were horrified that she had been lying there all those years fully aware. She almost went insane... Imagine being fully paralyzed and unable to do anything except lie there thinking...
Not this particular case. The story is a pastiche of several actual events the stories of which resurfaced after the end of the war. The most often cited is that of Pvt. Ethelbert "Curley" Christian who was in fact the only surviving quadruple amputee in the entire war. He, however, was left with a fully intact head and after recovery had not only prostheses fitted for every limb but went on to become a motivational speaker and political activist. The other two are very apocryphal and only relayed by Trumbo himself, but apparently the prince of Wales visited a hospital one day and was curious about a storage locker that seemed a bit too large for a mere storage locker with a sign that said "No Admittance". Since you can't deny a royal the prince went in and what he saw broke his heart. Trumbo never went into detail and he also never bothered to source the story so it's unclear how badly injured that particular soldier was, but he was in such a bad shape that all the prince could do was kiss his cheek to get at least some sort of signal from the real world through. That event is actually referenced in the book, and Joe REALLY does not approve of the gesture. There seems to also have been an officer, possibly a British Major or a Canadian Colonel who was so badly mangled they decided to report him MIA to spare his family of the horrible knowledge. Eventually he just died alone after years and years in the hospital and years still after that the military came forward to his family. Very likely they both "merely" caught a bullet into the brain resulting in decortication, i.e. death of the neocortex, or very high up in the spine, resulting in complete paralysis from the neck down but somehow still averting respiratory arrest. Could be shrapnel to the brain which also caught huge chunks of their limbs and possiblie torsos. Since only Trumbo himself ever mentioned anything about that there is no way to fact check. This particular case however was probably impossible to have survived in reality. One thing I'm still confused is how they would diagnose decerebration if his limbs are just mush but eh, what gives. In principle the medical technology and surgical knowledge to keep him alive, assuming his brain stem is intact and unsevered from his respiratory muscles and his heart, were already there and had existed for about a decade or so. Just to get a faint idea of how much medicine, especially surgery and nursing, had progressed in the 18 years the century was old at the time I recommend watching the Knick. It's accurate to the technology at the time, the social attitudes, the dreadful conditions people lived under; the actual events however are fully fictionalized. It's an attempt to show every single breakthrough of the first decade of the 20th century in the same setting but it's really successful at that. Don't watch it though if your stomach is a bit weak on that particular day, there is no holding back whatsoever in what they show. They didn't have mechanical respirators, if a respiratory emergency was likely or already in progress pure oxygen would be introduced through the breathing tube, at the time very likely a tracheotomy because naseal or oral intubation was a bit iffy to handle. Sterilization technology, both for wounds and for instruments was very developed, several liquids were in use for that particular purpose, mostly carbolic acid or, and you'll be surprised this is still in use today, bleach. For wound irrigation a certain Mr Carrel developed a system of tubes that were connected at a central hub through which a cleansing solution, usually very diluted bleach, was introduced. Those tubes were placed into the wound in a way that maximized the affected area. This was of course necessary because virtually every single wound was caked in a toxic mixture of muddy trench soil, leftover food, fear-triggered piss and shit, corpse leakage, chlorine and mustard gas fumes, bacteria that fed on all of that plus whatever the omnipresent rats carried with them. Gangrene would settle within hours and following that eventually necrosis. So cleansing the most severe wounds was the number 1 priority right after triage. Of course if supplies are low you need to prioritize and that leads to missing less conspicuous but still threatening injuries and those were the injuries people would eventually die from. In the book Joe has a wound in him that oozes and leaks, it very likely is NOT a colostomy because the book makes a point of him counting his shits. If he had sustained it in the trenches it would have killed him as he keeps it for months after waking up, there is no way it wouldn't have been infected. Catheters were reusable, you washed them out with alcohol, autoclaved them and back in there they went, possibly even another patient. The autoclave would also easily destroy the caoutchouc they were made of at the time, it would become porous first, introducing shelter for bacteria and similarly nasty bigger things, and later break. If it happened in a patient, well... no three guesses about what that meant. Urinary catheters at the time were almost almost short-term use because the modern balloon catheter that kept everything in place wouldn't be invented until the late 20s. In peacetime there is quite a chance he would have survived that particular pattern of injuries, let's say he worked on the railroad and a boiler explodes. The ambulance is there quickly, the wounds, albeit sure dirty and infected, are MUCH cleaner than they would be in the trenches, hospital supplies are plenty and the time constricts are much more lenient. Anything that required mechanical ventilation though would have been a death sentence until the late thirties at the earliest.
This movie is disturbing but the book has so many more layers, so much graphic gruesome violence that left me feeling empty, its a draining dark and depressing book
In creating an anti-war story, Dalton Trumbo really did an amazing job both in his book and movie. It truly is anti-war, in reference to what it does to the soldiers, son, brothers, future fathers. Not PTSD but something just as bad, believe it or not.
The man in the video is Donald Sutherland, and you can find the video by searching his name and "Johnny Got His Gun interview - What is democracy?" Thanks for commenting
@@DEPFilms thank you very much for the answer. Didn't realize he was one of the actor in the film. I wish his interview was a bit longer, what he says is very interesting.
Donald Sutherland also played a major role in the movie: “MASH”-a comedy that takes place within a “Mobile Army Surgical Hospital” (thus the name) during the Korean War with moments of harsh reality mixed in with the humor.
I watch this movie when I am extremely, chronically, "call-the-hospital"-and-"Fuck Off" depressed, and at absolutely no other time, nor would i ever recommend such a thing; _____________ but i dunno ;\ certain time, certain place... ...seems to help
I just watched this movie. Was basically kill yourself depressed today. It made me think of some things. Made me realize that there's a bigger hell I could be experiencing solely within my own mind than I currently am. I'll probably watch it every time I'm in that mindset too.
.... Sometimes hands are forced , because , if they're not, the one question is then faced : "where were YOU when I needed YOU!?" .... BECAUSE IF NO ONE STANDS UP & BRIDGES THE GAP OF JUSTICE, EVIL WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL .
... if you don't prescribe to that line of sight, then you either Enjoy being a bully or you Enjoy being Bullied. And you Enjoy witnessing other people surviving a Bully. Shame on You. *sometimes you've gotta run TO the s*** to get THRU the s*** , Cuz if you don't You won't Grow you wont Move no more
Where im from its not called “ he is a piece of meat”, but its called he is a “vegetable” - ive seen the Music video more times than Any other Metallica song, because it was That song, That Got me into Metallica - but im pretty sure both song and film has same anti war message. Will need to see the movie at one point, but this short video about it Will do for now.
You might be thinking of the song One. Landmine has taken my sight, taken my speech taken my hearing. Taken my arms taken my legs taken my soul, left me a with life in hell.
No it wasn't FFS While they did use them in WW1 they weren't the dreadful symbol they were in the wars following WW2. That was modern artillery still, and the new horror at the time was shrapnel. It was very explicitely a mortar shell, something that drops from a high angle, and if you had read the book you'd know he was running from a barrage at the time and dove into a shelter that collapsed on the other guys inside it with him very likely being the only survivor. Hell I don't mind people getting into the story through Metallica but can you please leave that mediocre attempt at an epic song behind when talking about Johnny Got His Gun? One is a retelling of the story set in Vietnam, which again you'd know if you bothered to listen to the intro (there are helicopters goddammit) and the lyrics (references to mechanical ventilation which didn't exist until around the time Trumbo wrote the novel, the landmine that seems to confuse everyone). That's 101 level shit seriously.
The video for one from Metallica actually inspired me to check out the film the film is more detailed than the music video therefore it is possible to enjoy the film after seeing the music video for me
Darkness imprisoning me All that I see Absolute horror I cannot live I cannot die Trapped in myself Body my holding cell Landmine has taken my sight Taken my speech Taken my hearing Taken my arms Taken my legs Taken my soul Left me with life in hell
the music video doesn't spoil the movie. it just shows what happens in it. I understand that many people don't understand the difference so here it is. When prior knowledge of the information exposed in some way decreases the movie's impact on the first viewing it's a spoiler. when a movie has 0 surprises there can be no spoilers
Yeah Jesus wouldn't have said that....he would say my father will come for you one day ,now hand me the tool bag and go help your self to a bottle of wine ( ;
If he lost his hearing how does he know people are around him? Surely he wouldn't have suddenly gotten psychic powers ? His ears fair enough That's kinda confusing to me or am I overthinking it...
There are some movies that are SO hard to watch because they make you feel absolutely uneasy and pull you down into the darkest hole of horror that you can imagine and even lingers for a long time. A bad feeling right inside your guts. "Christiane F." for example or Werner Herzog's "Land des Schweigens & der Dunkelheit". And of course... "Johnny got his gun" as well.
“Come and See”
"Eraserhead" as well
The boy in the striped pyjamas can also be added
check out Men Behind the Sun
@@tldogmeat oh god please no. Not that abormination… Seriously… i'd rather watch "Salo" or "964 Pinocchio" several times in a row than "Men behind the sun".
My high school art teacher showed us this movie in class back in 1987...well before the Metallica video. It was massively disturbing, gave me nightmares for a time, and has stayed with all these years. Mrs. Sheets was my art teacher. She was blind in one eye, but she was able to see things that those with 2 eyes were totally blind to see. She left a great impression on me, back when teachers actually gave a shit about the students that they taught.
This movie is so criminally under-rated, and i think it should be mandatory viewing in high school. I had my 15 year old son watch it with me, and he said it was pretty disturbing, but glad that he saw it.
What could Mrs. Sheets see?
If teachers were paid better, perhaps they would give a shit more....
@@bryonfrye7282 if they gave a shit it wouldn't matter. That being said teachers should be paid more.
She'd probably be sacked if she did that today, and probably sued by parents for traumatising their kiddies.
What's totally horrifying is this actually happens to a degree.
Yeah, people who get particularly gored in a battle usually end up missing an arm and/or leg. Some people might even lose an eye. War is hell, man.
@@cashthecurator666 there are people who lose all of their limbs and genitals so a lot worse than losing an eye.
@DeafGhostbuster source?
@@jacksonsinclair2615?
It's almost as if darkness is imprisoning him, all that he sees, absolute horror. He cannot live. He cannot die.
So sad.
i see
He’s trapped in himself, body his holding cell.....the landmine had taken his sight, taken his speech, taken his hearing, taken his arms, taken his legs, taken his soul, left him with life in hell...
So sad.
And when you think about it, now that the world is gone he’s just one, I hope god helps hiiiim
These stupid comments take away from the horrific reality of war that millions of boys have had to suffer and die from that this book and movie were explicitly made to shed light on. It’s not fucking funny or original.
@@douglasbubbletrousers4763 oh no they are making a reference to the song made about this
Darkest movie ever
you should try “Come and See”
@@dimitripapadinikolaus take a look dude
Runner up: “Jacob’s Ladder”. At least it ends on a positive note.
type in a serbian film
@@aquaticspasticp5024 That movie is just depraved lol Johnny got his gun hits a deeper level of horror in my opinion, but not at the same intensity as a serbian film
LANDMINE has taken my sight
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me a life in heeeeelllll
i was thinking the exact same thing
You forgot about speech
@@kaem2018 i have no mouth and I must scream 😢
@@moxiemaxie3543 I feel like that was the same story minus the WW1 background of JGHG
I saw this movie after I got drafted to go to Vietnam, by Gods grace I had a better outcome , I am sure there are thousands that experienced something like this , but then just think what hell could be like forever , get right with God .
My dad was in Viet Nam. '71-'73 I think? Every man I see wearing his Vietnam ball cap I always stop them and say hey my dad, too. So this is my CZcams version of that.
He doesn't know I've done this since I was in highschool in the 90's. Our relationship is....well......yeah....
I love my parents. They did they best they knew. Put us kids first. Too much back story. Let's just say the old man would be surprised to know that at times I have admired him. Bragged to ppl what a strong, invincible, tough, hard working motherfkr he is. How proud I was of him, simple, uneducated, factory working, cattle raising hay throwing, man who stuttered only because his tongue was too short and deformed to touch the roof of his mouth, back of his teeth to make the sounds. No culture, no airs, very simple Ohio Appalachian Valley kind of guy. Who became passionate about the V.F.W and became learned quartermaster, commander, community and civic duties, learned to meet senators in Washington, and become a very polished, professional, commanding man. And years later in Columbus Ohio, National Convention, receiving his 'white hat' speaking to thousands......he didn't stutter, hadn't in years. Simple, humble, and good he metamorphosed and became so much more, accidentally, honestly, and worked so hard for the POW MIA cause for no reason than passion.....the opposite of all he'd been taught, lived, and tried to beat into my skull. It was for passion, rightousness, idk what I'm trying to say. But it was something to see. And I'm positive that I'm the only person, not even mom, who actually noticed and watched mesmerized, inspired, proud, and confused AF! You'd just have to know him. Not too much good to say bout the guy.....I'm honest......damn stubborn, wrong, egotistical dumb bastard. But years after that war, I watched him attain true glory because of that war in the most unexpected way. I hold those years really close. And that's why I never let a Vietnam Vet pass by without saying "Hey.....my dad was, too"
I am one of many who probably was not aware of JGHG before I saw the video for One which was years after even the song's release but I managed to find the movie on vhs at a local video store & rented it. It is good war(anti) film & a bit of surreal cinema.
SPOILERS: I find the darkest part of this movie, more so than the end where Joe is begging for death, is the scene where Jesus himself tells Joe that he is hopeless, that his real life is a greater nightmare than his dreams, and that he needs a miracle. Jesus, a miracle worker. Jesus, a symbol of love and hope. Jesus, who sacrificed his life for the love of mankind, tells Joe there is nothing he can do and asks him to leave for fear of his bad luck rubbing off. This scene shows how alone and isolated Joe is. Mankind has locked him away in a broom closet and shut the windows, keeping him a secret. So. Not only has man forgotten him, but God himself has forsaken Joe. I can't possibly think of a more heart breaking and disturbing thought. This movie is truly an underrated masterpiece that even retains its power to this day.
"this takes place in the movie" and "spoilers" aren't necessarily synonyms,
Johnny get your gun, get your gun. Take it on a run on run on run
Here them calling you and me
@@turtleboi8182 every son of liberty
The book is a devastating indictment against war. I actually read it back in 1990 on my way from Japan to Bahrain, to join my ship for the beginning of Desert Shield and then Desert Storm. This was not a good choice by me (I also had read Ron Kovic's "Born on The Fourth of July" en route to Bahrain) seeing as I was getting ready to participate in something that could have left me like Joe in the book. It's just as relevant now as it was in 1939 when Trumbo published it. I still would like to see the movie -- I'm familiar with the Metallic music video "One" that has scenes from it.
The book got banned twice, WW2 and Korean war
So watching the music video may ruin the movie for us but this review won't?
**bruh**
WW1, I would say, is the war that changed the world (or at least Western Civilization). With how terrible the body count, mutilations, and yet how they romanticized war, it’s no secret that most people ditched that ideology.
Did they?
I see Russia going to war, China and North Korea providing weapons, USA and parts of Africa on the brink of Civil War or at it right now, large parts of Europe calling those fleeing from war "invaders", North and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Turkey and Greece pitched against each other, as well as all their neighbor states pitched against Israel and also funding terrorists who cowardly hide and attack from amongst civilians regardless of retribution coming invariably to hurt the entire population.
I don't see people effectively acting up against any of this.
But I see large profits made in the military/industrial complex and its firm grip on international and national politics.
THAT WAS THE FELT THREW MY SOUL
The book is so different . Even the ending was different he didnt ask them to kill him . The book rediculed freedom and democracy and honor . They are just words
Good review
Incredibly moving..amazing movie
Can anyone let me know how realistic this movie actually is? Like how long would he live if this happened? Is it possible to survive this at all? And what could the army and hospital do to help this man
Yes they could, and therein lies the horror.....
I believe someone like this could be kept alive indefinitely. Due to the fact that they would be on a respirator, deadly pneumonia would be a (thankfully) constant threat. Also, for unknown reasons, a respirator turns the brain into actual mush. So, long-term there would be consequences.
Some people have experienced "locked in syndrome" after being in a medically induced coma. They can't move, speak or open their eyes - but they are fully conscious. One young girl was like that for YEARS. Her family were told that she was completely unaware, however she was very, very aware. After several years, she regained her abilities to move and communicate. Her family were horrified that she had been lying there all those years fully aware. She almost went insane... Imagine being fully paralyzed and unable to do anything except lie there thinking...
Not this particular case. The story is a pastiche of several actual events the stories of which resurfaced after the end of the war. The most often cited is that of Pvt. Ethelbert "Curley" Christian who was in fact the only surviving quadruple amputee in the entire war. He, however, was left with a fully intact head and after recovery had not only prostheses fitted for every limb but went on to become a motivational speaker and political activist.
The other two are very apocryphal and only relayed by Trumbo himself, but apparently the prince of Wales visited a hospital one day and was curious about a storage locker that seemed a bit too large for a mere storage locker with a sign that said "No Admittance". Since you can't deny a royal the prince went in and what he saw broke his heart. Trumbo never went into detail and he also never bothered to source the story so it's unclear how badly injured that particular soldier was, but he was in such a bad shape that all the prince could do was kiss his cheek to get at least some sort of signal from the real world through. That event is actually referenced in the book, and Joe REALLY does not approve of the gesture. There seems to also have been an officer, possibly a British Major or a Canadian Colonel who was so badly mangled they decided to report him MIA to spare his family of the horrible knowledge. Eventually he just died alone after years and years in the hospital and years still after that the military came forward to his family. Very likely they both "merely" caught a bullet into the brain resulting in decortication, i.e. death of the neocortex, or very high up in the spine, resulting in complete paralysis from the neck down but somehow still averting respiratory arrest. Could be shrapnel to the brain which also caught huge chunks of their limbs and possiblie torsos. Since only Trumbo himself ever mentioned anything about that there is no way to fact check.
This particular case however was probably impossible to have survived in reality. One thing I'm still confused is how they would diagnose decerebration if his limbs are just mush but eh, what gives. In principle the medical technology and surgical knowledge to keep him alive, assuming his brain stem is intact and unsevered from his respiratory muscles and his heart, were already there and had existed for about a decade or so. Just to get a faint idea of how much medicine, especially surgery and nursing, had progressed in the 18 years the century was old at the time I recommend watching the Knick. It's accurate to the technology at the time, the social attitudes, the dreadful conditions people lived under; the actual events however are fully fictionalized. It's an attempt to show every single breakthrough of the first decade of the 20th century in the same setting but it's really successful at that. Don't watch it though if your stomach is a bit weak on that particular day, there is no holding back whatsoever in what they show. They didn't have mechanical respirators, if a respiratory emergency was likely or already in progress pure oxygen would be introduced through the breathing tube, at the time very likely a tracheotomy because naseal or oral intubation was a bit iffy to handle. Sterilization technology, both for wounds and for instruments was very developed, several liquids were in use for that particular purpose, mostly carbolic acid or, and you'll be surprised this is still in use today, bleach. For wound irrigation a certain Mr Carrel developed a system of tubes that were connected at a central hub through which a cleansing solution, usually very diluted bleach, was introduced. Those tubes were placed into the wound in a way that maximized the affected area. This was of course necessary because virtually every single wound was caked in a toxic mixture of muddy trench soil, leftover food, fear-triggered piss and shit, corpse leakage, chlorine and mustard gas fumes, bacteria that fed on all of that plus whatever the omnipresent rats carried with them. Gangrene would settle within hours and following that eventually necrosis. So cleansing the most severe wounds was the number 1 priority right after triage. Of course if supplies are low you need to prioritize and that leads to missing less conspicuous but still threatening injuries and those were the injuries people would eventually die from. In the book Joe has a wound in him that oozes and leaks, it very likely is NOT a colostomy because the book makes a point of him counting his shits. If he had sustained it in the trenches it would have killed him as he keeps it for months after waking up, there is no way it wouldn't have been infected. Catheters were reusable, you washed them out with alcohol, autoclaved them and back in there they went, possibly even another patient. The autoclave would also easily destroy the caoutchouc they were made of at the time, it would become porous first, introducing shelter for bacteria and similarly nasty bigger things, and later break. If it happened in a patient, well... no three guesses about what that meant. Urinary catheters at the time were almost almost short-term use because the modern balloon catheter that kept everything in place wouldn't be invented until the late 20s. In peacetime there is quite a chance he would have survived that particular pattern of injuries, let's say he worked on the railroad and a boiler explodes. The ambulance is there quickly, the wounds, albeit sure dirty and infected, are MUCH cleaner than they would be in the trenches, hospital supplies are plenty and the time constricts are much more lenient. Anything that required mechanical ventilation though would have been a death sentence until the late thirties at the earliest.
@@absinthefandubs9130 - Ahhh, Absinthe... Great information...
@@josephdockemeyer4807 Always welcome.
This movie is disturbing but the book has so many more layers, so much graphic gruesome violence that left me feeling empty, its a draining dark and depressing book
I will have to get hold of the book as the movie is already a masterpiece in its own right and I need to get at its source.
Darkness
Imprisoning him.
All that he sees
Absolute horror
He cannot live
He cannot die
trapped in himself
body his holding cell.
Landmine
Has taken his sight
Taken his speech
Taken his hearing
Taken his arms
Taken his legs
Taken his soul
left him with life in helllll
*_epic solo intensifies_*
I cant understand why but all the scenes with the father make me cry which is odd as most media doesnt affect me the same
In creating an anti-war story, Dalton Trumbo really did an amazing job both in his book and movie. It truly is anti-war, in reference to what it does to the soldiers, son, brothers, future fathers. Not PTSD but something just as bad, believe it or not.
Ahem.
LANDMINE. HAS TAKEN MY SIGHT. TAKEN MY SPEACH. TAKEN MY HEARING!!!
Artillery shell**
TAKEN MY ARMS. TAKEN MY LEGS. TAKEN MY SOUL.
@@MrTongen LEFT ME WITH LIFE IN HELL
NO NO NO NO NO NO
@@Bludvane_77 That’s not the lyric
This is most likely not only the best and most honest movie ever made but also ever to be made on the topic of war.
Can you give me the source of the man speaking at the end of the video? English is not my first language, and I can't figure out his name.
The man in the video is Donald Sutherland, and you can find the video by searching his name and "Johnny Got His Gun interview - What is democracy?" Thanks for commenting
@@DEPFilms thank you very much for the answer. Didn't realize he was one of the actor in the film. I wish his interview was a bit longer, what he says is very interesting.
Donald Sutherland also played a major role in the movie: “MASH”-a comedy that takes place within a “Mobile Army Surgical Hospital” (thus the name) during the Korean War with moments of harsh reality mixed in with the humor.
Kiefer Sutherland's dad? Looks like it could be...
Edit: it is, indeed.
I watch this movie when I am extremely, chronically,
"call-the-hospital"-and-"Fuck Off"
depressed,
and at absolutely
no other time, nor would i ever
recommend such a thing;
_____________
but i dunno ;\
certain time,
certain place...
...seems to help
I just watched this movie. Was basically kill yourself depressed today. It made me think of some things. Made me realize that there's a bigger hell I could be experiencing solely within my own mind than I currently am. I'll probably watch it every time I'm in that mindset too.
I’ve seen the movie and read the book. It changed me as a person.
makes me think of a certian heavy-metal/thrash band from the 80s
Metallica
@@josukebutmature2399 who is metallica?
BEAVER a band very popular in the 80s 90s I grew up with their songs
@@josukebutmature2399 yeah they bad. listen to cardi b instead
BEAVER I’m ok I’m not a big fan of her
.... Sometimes
hands are forced ,
because , if they're not,
the one question is then faced :
"where were YOU
when I needed YOU!?"
.... BECAUSE IF NO ONE STANDS UP & BRIDGES THE GAP OF JUSTICE,
EVIL WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL .
... if you don't prescribe
to that line of sight,
then you either
Enjoy being a bully
or you Enjoy being Bullied.
And you Enjoy witnessing other people surviving a Bully. Shame on You.
*sometimes you've gotta run TO the s***
to get THRU the s*** ,
Cuz if you don't
You won't Grow
you wont Move
no more
this movie is tragic, man
Don't comment the landmine speech. Tell us what you feel about the movie. Theres plenty of landmine re-qoutes in the thread
Where im from its not called “ he is a piece of meat”, but its called he is a “vegetable” - ive seen the Music video more times than Any other Metallica song, because it was That song, That Got me into Metallica - but im pretty sure both song and film has same anti war message. Will need to see the movie at one point, but this short video about it Will do for now.
I was never scared of the movie but I was extremely sad after watching it
the best review by now
Wasn't it a landmine he stepped on?
Vilekke i thought it was a mortar shell?
artillery shell hit him
If I hit 1 million subs I will eat my own head it was a shell of some sort
You might be thinking of the song One. Landmine has taken my sight, taken my speech taken my hearing. Taken my arms taken my legs taken my soul, left me a with life in hell.
No it wasn't FFS
While they did use them in WW1 they weren't the dreadful symbol they were in the wars following WW2. That was modern artillery still, and the new horror at the time was shrapnel. It was very explicitely a mortar shell, something that drops from a high angle, and if you had read the book you'd know he was running from a barrage at the time and dove into a shelter that collapsed on the other guys inside it with him very likely being the only survivor.
Hell I don't mind people getting into the story through Metallica but can you please leave that mediocre attempt at an epic song behind when talking about Johnny Got His Gun? One is a retelling of the story set in Vietnam, which again you'd know if you bothered to listen to the intro (there are helicopters goddammit) and the lyrics (references to mechanical ventilation which didn't exist until around the time Trumbo wrote the novel, the landmine that seems to confuse everyone). That's 101 level shit seriously.
Never saw the movie, but I read the book back in college. Was quite an experience.
How is this the ONLY time Donald Sutherland was cast as a modern incarnation of Jesus?!? PERFECT role for him!
Just watched it and I can't stop thinking about it. Nothing has ever spoken to me as much as this.
The video for one from Metallica actually inspired me to check out the film the film is more detailed than the music video therefore it is possible to enjoy the film after seeing the music video for me
Darkness imprisoning me
All that I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell
Landmine has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with life in hell
I recommend “Jacob’s ladder” if u like this
jesus looks like Rhett hahahah
That's motha fuckin Donald Sutherland, a legend.
HE DOES!
You hit the nail on the head Donald. To bad nobody in high power listen. O'ya and Metallica fucking rules.
Ok
The architect continues to improve with each matrix. Excellent.
ONE
guitar guy Landmine
"I cant remember anything"
"I can't tell if this is real or a dream"
Eric Bussa Just fixed it, thanks
So we’re all here from Metallica?
Darkness
imprisoning me
I love how this film portrays Jesus as literally the most useless person ever.
Too REAL ?
Metallica
Year I was born
Did this actually happen
@@Strobed Source?
It hasn't been proven to be but there is still a chance that it was
This film turned me into a strong anti war activist.
He speaks to yeezus??? Did he ask him why he comin at Petey Boy so hard??
the music video doesn't spoil the movie. it just shows what happens in it. I understand that many people don't understand the difference so here it is. When prior knowledge of the information exposed in some way decreases the movie's impact on the first viewing it's a spoiler. when a movie has 0 surprises there can be no spoilers
Johnny get your gun Metallica
Workers of the world, unite!
That’s fucked up he said I think you should go your a very unlucky young man and sometimes it rubs off funny 😄 but sad 😢
Yeah Jesus wouldn't have said that....he would say my father will come for you one day ,now hand me the tool bag and go help your self to a bottle of wine ( ;
DARKNESS IMPRISINOING ME
ALL THAT I SEE
ABSOLUTE HORROR
If he lost his hearing how does he know people are around him?
Surely he wouldn't have suddenly gotten psychic powers ?
His ears fair enough
That's kinda confusing to me or am I overthinking it...
We everyone have some kind of power to feel when someones's coming
The vibration of the footsteps
vibrations
Like si eres del hontanar