MAKING THE SWITCH! | Why I Chose Panasonic Lumix Over Sony
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- After being a Sony fan and user for years, I (like many others!) have made the jump to the Panasonic Lumix camera system... but I'm not just following the trend! In this video, I explain my research and conclusions that led to me making this decision and investment.
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00:00 Intro
01:07 Using Lumix for the first time
02:17 My thoughts on current Sony cameras
04:22 3 reasons why I switched to Lumix...
04:34 Reason 1
05:09 My thoughts on current Nikon cameras
06:24 Reason 2
08:22 Reason 3
09:10 So what did I buy?
09:40 The future of the Lumix S1 line
11:11 Outro - Zábava
I just finished grading a wedding shoot on the FX6 and all I can say is that v-log from my s5IIx is way better than slog-3
I know what you mean, v-log is just so easy and pleasing to get results from! 😁
@@thatjakegriffin did u see the lumix gh7 with Ari log? LUMIX is killing Sony I might switch also
@@Sweatmonkey513 Yes, the Arri log I don't think anyone saw coming. Lumix know who they're targeting!
Excellent timing my man. Looking at getting my first dslr camera, so really appreciate the video
Ah awesome! Really glad I could offer something useful to you 😊 All the best with the purchase!
Very informative video. Too bad that the YT-algorithm doesn't favor your channel yet. Keep up the good work, because I think your style and the information that you give, are a valuable asset to people searching for information on cameras. Keep it up!
That's great to hear as I'm so new, it's still uncertain how it's going to be received! So thank you kindly for your comment, means a lot! 😁
Thanks Jake. I’m thinking about an upgrade from my A7R3. I similarly thought I should stay with Sony, given my lens investment but the only one that appeals is the A1 (too expensive) or the A7S3 (lacking in features such as crop mode which I like). I used to have a GH4 previously and liked it very much for travel hybrid shooting, so the S5 range appeals. I’ll need to check out the lens range, but your video gives me food for thought. Thanks
Thank you for your comment and for watching! Definitely worth looking at the A7RIII, I know that was a great camera at launch, and definitely more appealing with its price nowadays. If you're invested in Sony like I was, my best advice as ever is to try the A7RIII and A7IV out where possible, rental etc, as well as the S5II, and see. It's a big deal to jump and it's got to be right for you, but glad you've taken something from my experience 😊
@@thatjakegriffinThanks Jake. I’m a little confused with you referencing the A7RIII because that’s the one I already have? But thanks for your recommendations 👍🏽
Sorry! I meant the A7RIV, as well as the A7IV!
Very informative video, thank you for sharing your thoughts. This Lumix is great if 24MP is your hybrid sweet spot, you get to enjoy the best of two worlds. the S5IIx and GH7 are also great as Swiss army knife's that can be used in much bigger productions scenario's, and save you time and money with little sacrifice on quality (choose your own battles wisely and you will be OK) . in the end it's all about your Eco system and needs. Sorry for my English .. and all the best my friend.
It really is a good sweet spot yes, not too high megapixel count with noisy video footage, and not too low so thank you can take some detailed photos. 😊 And yes, definitely agree, it's all about the individual needs, but it's great to see how universally helpful these cameras can be to so many people. And don't apologise, your English is great! Thank you for your comment, and all the best to you too! 😊
I've been shooting with the Sony FX30 since it was released. But, recently, I too have been looking to go back to LUMIX. I shot a feature film with the GH5. So I am familiar with the LUMIX system. It wasn't an immediate switch to Sony. But, it was the AF that lead to my switch to Sony. But, since the S5ii/x with its open gate, Pro Res internal recording, and fantastic stabilization, shutter angle, and now reliable PDAF, I am looking to pick up the S5ii as well. It does mean a switch to a completely different system. But, from what I've seen of the S5ii/x, I think it's a good switch. When I make the switch is still in the works. Thanks for sharing your experience. Subscribed.
Thank you! Appreciate that! I've heard really impressive things about the FX30, I will have to get my hands on one as admittedly I've had less time with crop sensor cameras over the recent years.
I think it is a good switch too as you can probably tell, it was a big deal for me to do that as it was my first system switch, and it is a bit nervy when you're used to certain things and comforts from your daily driver after so long, but I have to say it's definitely paid off for all the pros, some of which you've mentioned, and any quirks or things I didn't know about, I got used to, but I'm planning on covering those in the next vid as I definitely would have appreciated the heads up on some of them.
The autofocus is definitely more than usable now especially for video, compared to a GH5 or S1, for talking head interviews I just leave it on human detection and it does a great job. But definitely not Sony level of reliability, especially if there's lots of people in a frame for a shot. However, I'm still experimenting with the af settings to see if it can be a bit more to my liking.
@@thatjakegriffin Speaking of AF, I had the S5 for a bit. One technique I learned that helped, was when the yellow AF box was over the head of the subject, nudge the joystick on the back and you should see short lines on each side of the yellow box. Doing this helped the AF lock onto the person's head. I'm not sure if this works on the S5ii/x, but you might give it a try.
Hi Jake. Looking forward to your long term review. One question though: do you ever have clients who INSIST that you use a Sony camera instead of Panasonic or another brand? It seems that here in the USA, production agencies want camera operators who shoot Sony.
Or to put it another way, some camera operators who vlog talk mention that the reason they got hired was because they own an FX6 (or FX9).
I am stuck between upgrading my S1 and S5 (original) to an S5 IIX or move over to Sony.
Hello! So personally, no I've not experienced that myself yet, however I know of the odd person who has, in fact another British CZcamsr I watched a few weeks ago talked about how a client specifically requested the Sony Burano!
Now there's an argument that you can just hire a specific camera if a client requests it on a one off project and you don't own it, but perhaps agencies would prefer it all being under one brand when regularly outsourcing operators, and that makes sense. But generally as a freelancer, my clients know nothing about cameras and so don't care what I use, as long as I know what I'm doing with it! 😅
As for your upgrade decision, definitely test out the S5IIX. I used the S1 the other week actually and I preferred the build and ergonomics, but feature wise the S5IIX has the edge, and definitely over the S5 as well, although I know of some Lumix pros on here that say they prefer the sensor of the S5 to the S5II range as a personal preference. As for Sony, definitely try out one or two bodies and lenses you'd consider purchasing and see how you get on, it's a small cost for such a big decision but it'll help 😊👌
@@thatjakegriffin Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, here in the USA, they Panasonic doesn't have the loan program where you can try out an S5 IIX for a few days (at least I don't think they do, will have to double check). The Sony camera I would be LIKELY to get (if I do get a Sony camera) would be the a7S III because of the full frame 4K 60p, the 4K 120, and the ability to have timecode in (and also, because it is Sony and they have that name-brand recognition, at least among agencies here).
May I ask who that other youtuber was that got the request for the Burano??? In the USA, I think that owner / operators charge a rental fee to their clients for their equipment, even if they own it. Not sure how it works in the UK though.
Oh really? That's weird! That's such a good thing here I'd assumed they'd launched it in the US first, if not eventually.
I can't deny that the A7SIII is a brilliant camera, and whilst I love my S5IIX, the things I do wish I had was less erratic autofocus subject detection, and that 4K120 ability, that is killer. And again, for that client I referenced in the video, it was essential, as they wanted 4K slow motion and choices were limited for that last summer.
And yes the channel I'm referring to is called OBP, he has an S5II and has talked about it a lot, but recently replaced his Blackmagic Ursa for a Burano for work and has talked about it a bit now, really worth a watch 😊
I shoot Nikon and Panasonic. I've found that Panasonic cameras, and lenses, retain their value on the used market... surprisingly well. My old GX85 sells used, for what I paid for it new a few years ago.
GX85 is a beast and so is its cousin the GX850/GF9 my god the quality is exceptional for the money.
Incredible video, amigo! Really informative, but it doesn't drag out. It's also really nice hearing your dulcet tones after so long hahaha. I hope we can see each other irl again sooner rather than later. Wish you the best with your new Lumix!
Aha, thank you my friend! Really appreciate your kind words, and yes, I certainly hope we catch up in person soon! 😊🙌
Lovely picture! And although I wasn’t interested in the subject too much (I already have S5IIx), the way you talked was so… nice(?) if not ideal, so I watched the whole video with a great interest.
Panasonic needed to bring out the successor to S1H. Which is now 5 1/2 years old. Panasonic need to make a camera to take on the Canon 8k Camera which have been around for 3 years.
You're thoughtful review definitely got my attention, however, before I reach for my credit card, I'm really curious to hear your thoughts regarding the negative aspects of this camera.
Thank you! And for those negative aspects, you'll have to wait for my next video! 😁 Where I can assure you I will lay it all out, good and bad.
Every negative that you will listen to or watch in a video will be what the user will like. Faster Af better this or that. For the price of the S5ii/x the camera is top notch. I have the S5ii and personally I don't find any negatives with it. I could be that 'I want more ' guy but know that if I wanted more then I would have to spend more. Recommend you try out the S5ii/x and see for yourself and make your own opinion
This is true. When I release my review, it will be purely based on what I get out of it and what I personally don't, and hopefully any viewers can take from that what they can relate to, but TLDR, I still love it, and the good outweighs the bad by far, hence why it's still with me today 😀 and yes, there's a point of diminishing returns where you spend more and don't get enough for it, it's all a balance. And definitely agree with you, my biggest help was trying one out for myself before buying 😊
The only negative is 4k60p is cropped but the crop is downsampled from 6k. Besides that panasonic is by far the best for the money.
@@nigerian-nightmare Truth!
Congrats!That was a mouthfull😂Thank You
I love Panasonic but they really need to refresh the gx85 gx850 lineup. Panasonics stability is exceptional and I honestly think they need to go back to their roots, small cameras with great video and picture quality that fits in your pocket. The S5 is certainly the best value for your money.
Very clear and well presented. I mostly shoot stills but still liked your thoughts on the two camera systems. Would like to see Canon added to the mix, such as the R6 II. Keep going.
Thank you! 🙂 I will do, and yes, I definitely will be aiming to get my hands on more Canons and other manufacturers to do more thorough tests and compare for my use cases!
Nice review! I'm still rockin' the S1, and as an amateur videog/semi pro photog, I'm happy with it. When it dies, I'll probably go for the S5IIx.
Nice video, I've used the S5ii and S5iiX for a little over a year now, and for the most part they are great cameras, although the new Nikon Z6iii has tempted me with what it has to offer. L mount definitely needs some more lenses in the line up, when it comes to wildlife photography!
Thank you! Yes I agree, the Z6III is a head turner, and we definitely need more lens options for L mount, but they're going in the right direction 👌
Welcome to the lumix club.happy you switched.
I use Lumix cameras. My friends had the Sony a7iii or a7iv. Always saying for me to switch. I always said if Lumix had cameras that had the same AF as Sony they would switch. So when Lumix added the PDAF I smiled as I'm saying more and more Sony users switching. Lumix is one of the most talked about brands over the last few years. So naturally any CZcamsr who wants to do views and sub will pick the Lumix brand to grab some views. And make the 'why i switch video ' . Sony is being talked about less and less. I also said that Lumix would one day be the brand CZcamsrs will switch too due to how they make great cameras for a price that can be afforded. The firmware update are always outstanding too. Now seeing top CZcamsrs who sold the Sony or Canon brand now selling the Lumix brand to grab them views 😅😅😅
I want a lumix too
Thanks
Just when Nikon released the Z6 iii :P I take it you already have switched right. :)
I have indeed! But I am eagerly awaiting to get my hands on one to test it out! Sadly however I think redundant video recording still isn't something they've implemented which would rule it out for me as a daily driver, but nonetheless I'm very hyped for Nikon right now 😁
I own both an S5 and S5ii they are both amazing cameras but the auto focus and extra features on the S5ii are simply incredible for my needs. The fact I can shoot videos without a gimbal when needed is amazing. I do most of our videos with my wife ( we are currently honing our skills for our business ) and tomorrow will be the first day using the S5ii on a gimbal for extra stability.
This video is an amazing resource for those making the choice. Filled with great information and insights. I would recommend the S5ii or the S5iix to anyone looking to get a new or even starter camera.
Really appreciate the kind comment there, and I'm really glad to be able to provide that helpful insight, as that's all I look for when watching other creators! 😁
Completely agree, I can see how much of a jump the S5II was compared to the S5, and it really helps not having to use a gimbal all the time. It doesn't eliminate the need for one of course, but really does make it a lot quicker when you just need to get the shot nice and stable on the fly 👌
Everything in this life is priced for a reason.
There's no free cheese.
And why fx3 is not dropped in price as S5ii orS5iix?
Because fx3 has better value for most professionals.
Yes, it is priced for a reason. The FX3's build quality, and specific video and ergonomic features are in the $3.5-4k bracket of cameras, i.e. budget cine level. But that isn't the bracket of cameras and pricing I'm discussing in my video.
My comparison was around the $2-3k bracket, essentially hybrid workhorse cameras, and there, the A7SIII has more value competition today.
the problem with this video, a lot of people are switching to Panasonic? you base that one a couple of CZcamsrs that switched. sales on the other hand say differently. Sony is selling more every year. feature rich is nice. but when features are not 100% worked out, they are not features. Yes Panasonic is is one to look out for. but they are not there yet.
there is a reason why a photo camera en video camera are different ones in the Sony line up. you don't speak about that. the video you post in your video which you made in England doesn't show anything. make a video unedited and show differences.
So my point was that a lot more people have made the switch over the last few years, not a comment on sales. You're right, Sony still dominate given their length of time in the mirrorless market.
As for features, I can tell you that they are worked out. Trust me, I would not have left Sony if they hadn't, they had to at least match Sony in most areas before I would've spent the money. There are compromises of course, because there's no perfect camera, but the compromises were heavily outweighed by the features I've mentioned.
I do mention about the point that Sony, at least on the photo side, can't be rivalled by Panasonic yet, they're rather similar and Sony mainly dominates there because their autofocus is better, that's true also.
This video was me explaining months of testing and research for my use cases and needs, not necessarily to convince or suggest to anyone anything or argue one company is better. I hate the brand wars debate. What I love is being able to discuss all cameras and brands with people as they all do different things and in their own way.
Hope that explains.
@@thatjakegriffin This guy is insufferable. You made a great video! I'm really just wondering about the rolling shutter feel. I've used M4/3 GH5s for years and they've always given me great rolling shutter performance. I know it'll take a dip switching to a full frame.
Thank you! Really appreciate that! 😊
Rolling shutter would definitely take a dip yeah, Ed Prosser and Gerald Undone have done some testing of their own and it's clear that it's one of its drawbacks. Although Gerald did point out that it was better than the S1H or A7IV in comparison. Personally, I haven't noticed it enough for it to bother me with the kind of things I shoot, (usually a lot more b-roll and static or slow shots) but definitely does have it. However, at least if you do need better rolling shutter, the APS-C mode, which you can also use for 4K50/60fps, is much better for that and you can get some slow motion footage out of it.
What does sales have to do with it? For the most part, Panasonic has ALWAYS been there. Their main issue for most was literally singular... their AF system. That's pretty much it. Well, now it's been addressed. Better late than never.
... and since I feel pretty confident that the AF system is more than capable now, I went out and pre-ordered a GH7. It will be able to give me everything I need and want out of a hybrid camera.
nice lipstick bro, calm it with the colour science