How Did This Small Collision Cause The World's Biggest Pre-Nuclear Explosion?

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  • čas přidán 24. 11. 2022
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    In this video, we take a look at the Halifax Explosion, when the SS Mont Blanc exploded in Halifax harbour, taking out a huge portion of the city.
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  • @CasualNavigation
    @CasualNavigation  Před rokem +84

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    • @737Garrus
      @737Garrus Před rokem +10

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    • @BenjiBuilds726
      @BenjiBuilds726 Před rokem +11

      Over a quarter of the video was an ad in addition to the existing ads already on the video, the video description is entirely an ad with no mention of the topic unless you expand it, and the pinned comment is an ad.
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    • @thesailman
      @thesailman Před rokem +5

      Taking that Russian money, huh. Are you sure that's a good plan?

    • @Harlem55
      @Harlem55 Před rokem +1

      How does this not get titanic coverage?

    • @Harlem55
      @Harlem55 Před rokem

      @@737Garrus you know that international law states that a captain can execute one for mutiny on the high seas, right?

  • @vale.antoni
    @vale.antoni Před rokem +2953

    The train dispatcher of the Halifax train station, when he heard news of the burning ammunition ship, directed all inbound trains to stop in their tracks immediately, and back away if possible, signing his message off by saying he is not going to make it out alive.

    • @Hobbyrepubliken
      @Hobbyrepubliken Před rokem +141

      o7

    • @beaconblaster33
      @beaconblaster33 Před rokem +12

      _L_ 0
      (no this isn't a greeting)

    • @jakubzygado9639
      @jakubzygado9639 Před rokem +304

      Patrick Vincent Coleman. The brave soul who stayed, so the new arrivals would not meet their doom.

    • @jaredbaker7230
      @jaredbaker7230 Před rokem +32

      V.... Coleman.... Goodbye....

    • @MotoHikes
      @MotoHikes Před rokem +535

      "Hold up the train. Ammunition ship afire in harbour making for Pier 6 and will explode. Guess this will be my last message. Good-bye, boys." - Patrick "Vince" Coleman's last message.

  • @richardbell7678
    @richardbell7678 Před rokem +124

    My favorite anecdote from the Halifax blast is how one of the Mont Blanc sailors saved a Micmac mother and child. As the crew was heading for safety on the far side of a ridge, there was a woman sitting on her porch with her baby who would be directly hit by the blast. The language barrier prevented the sailor from explaining the unfolding disaster, so, time being of the essence, the sailor grabbed the child and ran. The confused mother ran after the sailor and both were saved.

    • @pizzlerot2730
      @pizzlerot2730 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Good story, hadn't heard that one 👍

  • @DagazGriff
    @DagazGriff Před rokem +380

    For a perspective, I've read the Halifax explosion was "equivalent of more than 3,000 tons of TNT, nearly four times higher than the Beirut explosion estimate", and the Beirut one looked absolutely devastating

    • @thomasrengel5577
      @thomasrengel5577 Před rokem +27

      I had read for years that it was 4,000 tons! One-Fifth the power of the Hiroshima atom bomb! BTW there ARE photographs of the mushroom cloud--one taken about 16 seconds after the explosion from a Norwegian ship waiting to enter the harbor. They saw the exploding cloud but the sound hadn't reached them yet! Lots of books WON'T reproduce this picture instead used a sketchy newspaper drawing.

    • @CortexNewsService
      @CortexNewsService Před rokem +17

      And the Beirut explosion modern and stone buildings miles away. If Halifax was four times stronger than that, it's a miracle there weren't more lost.

    • @sapdude44
      @sapdude44 Před rokem +13

      @@CortexNewsService I think part of why could be that we (on the Halifax side at least) have citadel hill that causes most of downtown to be very steep. And also it emptied the harbour which took a lot of energy

    • @CortexNewsService
      @CortexNewsService Před rokem +4

      @@sapdude44 which would mean there was no where for all that force to go. Oy. Sounds like every thing that could make it worse was there.

    • @Alen725
      @Alen725 Před rokem +3

      @@CortexNewsService It destroyed whole city, it cant get more devastating than that so no miracle at all.

  • @samdaly799
    @samdaly799 Před rokem +1466

    Vince Coleman was an On Duty Train Despatcher for the Canadian Goverment Railways. On finding out a explosition would occur, he remained at his post rather than escaping and chose to warn those along the line that the incoming passenger train would be in harms way.
    This was his final message : "Hold up the train. Ammunition ship afire in harbour making for Pier 6 and will explode. Guess this will be my last message. Good-bye, boys."
    R.I.P Vince Coleman, heroic railwayman who should be better remembered for his sacrifice on that fateful day.

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 Před rokem +99

      There are some really brave railway workers out there.
      At the terrible train collision at Gare de Lyon in Paris in 1988, the driver of the stationary train at the station waiting to depart, saw the incoming train come barrelling at him, on the wrong (occupied) track and clearly much too fast to stop. Instead of jumping out and running for it, which would have saved his life, he stayed in his cab and kept yelling warnings over the loudspeaker, telling ppl to immidiately evacuate the train and run off the platform. He saved many ppl that day, and he kept warning, looking right at the incoming train, until the moment it slammed into his cab and instantly killed him.
      In such horrible cases, the true heroes shine, but unfortunately they almost always pay with their lives. One can only hope, that all the ppl, who lived due to their heroic sacrifice, will live good lives in tribute to the gift, they were given.

    • @wolfecanada6726
      @wolfecanada6726 Před rokem +15

      He had his own Canadian Heritage Minute

    • @ShadowDragon8685
      @ShadowDragon8685 Před rokem +23

      @@dfuher968 The sheer amount of energy involved in transport by train often makes them prone to moments where heroism happens...
      There's was a fellow, named Jesus Garcia Corona, who's often called "The Casey Jones of Mexico," but I find that fundamentally _wrong;_ if anything, Casey Jones should be called "The Jesus Garcia of Mississippi," for two reasons:
      Firstly, Jesus Garcia's heroism happened _before_ Casey Jones;'
      Second, and probably more importantly, Casey Jones saved the lives of a passenger train full of people at the cost of his life alone, and yes, that is _absolutely_ heroic and he should be lauded for it. Jesus Garcia saved the lives of _an entire mining town_ of people by taking a burning train full of explosives out of a rail depot in a mining town (that would be _full of explosives)_ and backing it up the line far enough that the explosion only killed himself. There's a _reason_ he's now formally known as Jesus Garcia Corona de Nacozari.
      There's also Benjamin Gimbert (who _actually_ survived, though with no expectation of doing so) and James Nightall (who, honestly, probably didn't need to die; there was no reason for Nightall to re-board the locomotive after uncoupling the burning wagon), who pulled a wagon full of burning explosives out of a station, leaving _the rest of their train of explosives_ behind them, losing their own lives (and admittedly killing the poor SOB in the signalman's box) but preventing _the entire train of explosives_ from leveling _a town;_ that's called the Soham Rail Disaster.
      Lots of heroism on the rails, much of it self-sacrificing in nature.

    • @BigLisaFan
      @BigLisaFan Před rokem +8

      @@wolfecanada6726 A very brave man who should not be forgotten. I miss those Heritage Minutes. Many are here on CZcams.

    • @samdaly799
      @samdaly799 Před rokem

      @@wolfecanada6726 that is good to hear.

  • @fearsomefawkes6724
    @fearsomefawkes6724 Před rokem +668

    As a Canadian, I'm fairly familiar with this explosion. However, I think you're the first person I've come across that explained WHY the SS IMO was on the wrong side of the channel.

    • @benoitbvg2888
      @benoitbvg2888 Před rokem +4

      Well There's Your Problem did a whole podcast about it.

    • @6th_Army
      @6th_Army Před rokem +33

      Even with the why. The crew still refused to make any corrective actions.

    • @88997799
      @88997799 Před rokem +1

      What?? They pass like Europe does. Left side of the road driving so they drive left and pass on right. The Mont Blanc was the one on the wrong side of the channel. They should have be left with he shore line on their left side. They don’t drive like America…. Drive on right pass on left. You got your brain installed backwards.

    • @acomingextinction
      @acomingextinction Před rokem +21

      @@6th_Army And when they finally *did* take a corrective action, it was exactly the wrong one and actually expedited the crash.

    • @ZeldaTheSwordsman
      @ZeldaTheSwordsman Před rokem +6

      Fascinating Horror did cover the Imo having to dodge two other boats.

  • @arthanor9631
    @arthanor9631 Před rokem +749

    Used to live there for years. It hits differently to hear this great retelling of the story, knowing the place. Of interesting note, Boston sent relief by train almost immediately. In 1918, Halifax sent a Christmas tree to express their thanks. The tradition was resumed in 1971 and continues to this day. 🎄

    • @eisenerballer
      @eisenerballer Před rokem +43

      My uncle sent one in the late 90's. It was a pretty big thing to be selected to have your tree sent.

    • @arthanor9631
      @arthanor9631 Před rokem +4

      @@eisenerballer that's really cool! Best tree of the year for your uncle 👍 he just have some nice forested land

    • @eisenerballer
      @eisenerballer Před rokem +11

      @@arthanor9631 he had a big ass tree in his way is what he had.
      Wanted to build a garage. Tree had to go one way or the other. It was just fortunate that they selected it to be sent. It was going to be cut anyway

    • @arthanor9631
      @arthanor9631 Před rokem

      @@eisenerballer Thats hilarious! Very convenient then, to get both the honor and the garage. Makes me wonder now if they consider the future fate of a tree before selecting it. Better to cut one like your uncle's than one that could stay healthy for years to come.

    • @CyreneDuVent
      @CyreneDuVent Před rokem +5

      I saw the Christmas tree heading to Boston a few years back. It's a cool experience to just be driving along the highway and suddenly see a massive tree going the other way

  • @gary7vn
    @gary7vn Před rokem +87

    My dad was in his cradle about two miles from the epicentre. That AM my grandmother had noticed that the rising sun was in his eyes, so she closed the leather hood. When the blast came my aunt was blown down the stairs and all the windows blew out. My aunt was fine, so she ran upstairs to find that the leather hood on dad's cradle had been pierced by dagger like shards of glass. He was fine. Dad lived to be 97 and when he died, he was one of only a handful of survivors still alive.
    Now go read about the 1945 Bedford magazine explosion, when it almost happened AGAIN! Dad survived that one too out in a lake in a boat as debris rained down all around him.

  • @Alsadius
    @Alsadius Před rokem +353

    The other really unfortunate thing about this explosion was, it was in December in Canada. There was a nasty snowstorm that hit Halifax the next day, and the residents no longer had a roof over their heads.
    Just an awful situation all around. But one worth remembering.

    • @CJODell12
      @CJODell12 Před 11 měsíci +5

      The citizens must have felt like God had abandoned them at their lowest point.

  • @Nexfero
    @Nexfero Před rokem +201

    When the atomic bombs where dropped the newspapers reported that the blast was equal to 14 Halifax explosions.

    • @doomfork
      @doomfork Před rokem +47

      Supposedly the scientists at Los Alamos placed bets ahead of the Trinity test on how many "Halifaxes" the blast would be, i.e. using "Halifax" as a unit of measure for size of explosion.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 Před rokem +6

      @@doomfork Some things never change.

  • @justrecentlyi5444
    @justrecentlyi5444 Před rokem +585

    Based on your explanation, I'm surprised that the Imo wasn't found to have the larger portion of the blame... Why does it seem like their mistakes not receive much scrutiny compared to the Mont Blanc who seemed to have been put in an impossible position by factors outside their own control?

    • @Walker_TR2
      @Walker_TR2 Před rokem +80

      You could argue that, but at the same time, you could also say the Mont Blanc could have tried to turn into the channel, versus towards the shore, clearing the Imo, or you could argue they could have beached. It was an interesting situation to be put in, and you can't really cast all the blame on one person

    • @N1ghthavvk
      @N1ghthavvk Před rokem +250

      "Dangerous Driving" in terms of road speak. They were too fast, and they were on the wrong course. Definitely the worse mistakes. Just to stretch the analogy further: You put blame on the car that drives over the speed limit and on the wrong side of the highway, instead of the car that got hit by them after it "failed" to evade the reckless drivers by trying to go off-road or whatever.

    • @Lilly_the_Snek
      @Lilly_the_Snek Před rokem +167

      @@Walker_TR2 yes the Mont Blanc could have reacted better to the course of the Imo, but that ignores the fact that the Imo was the one who put the Mont Blanc into the rough position it was in. The Imo was going too fast, and was in the wrong place, and putting blame on the people who were actually following procedure, and just got caught in a bad situation seems unfair.

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate Před rokem +32

      @@N1ghthavvk the video itself stated, mont blanc was carrying extremely dangerous cargo -- the captain knew he needed to avoid a collision AT ALL COSTS... which resulted in the fateful decision to turn back into the channel after taking the bad turn towards the eastern bank. if you're driving a tanker trailer on a highway and an imminent collision is on course, you should pull off the road, even if it means you might explode on your own in a ditch... that's the common sense to save lives.
      ultimately, like every disaster that is retold on the channel, it's a compounding of multiple errors that led to the tragedy. i wonder if this one led to some permanent changes in safety standards, even in wartime, for dangerous cargo in harbour. at the very least, i would expect most captains to know the dire consequences better and not repeat the same awful course corrections.
      it still boggles my mind that such collisions never involved direct radio communications, which should be available to both ships in that era (and indeed, ALL ships by now).

    • @MatthewSmith-sz1yq
      @MatthewSmith-sz1yq Před rokem +27

      The imo was just trying to avoid collisions as well. Admittedly, there was some very stupid decisions when it came to things like safe speeds for that harbor, but realistically there's likely not much that could have been done to avoid it by the time the two ships met.
      Something to keep in mind is that these ships take a while to commence an adjustment in heading, so essentially each ship was trying to adjust to the other ship's previous adjustment. The Mont Blanc didn't want to beach themselves, for obvious reasons, so they tried to claim the right of way. The Imo couldn't yield the right of way due to it's lack of maneuverability at those speeds, so it signalled accordingly. The Mont then tried to cross on the other side, and the Imo tried to decelerate. Both ships were trying to get out of each other's ways, but their attempts to evade each other ended up causing the collision.

  • @DevilSurvivor69
    @DevilSurvivor69 Před rokem +237

    I live near Halifax now, and if your from Canada you usually know about it. It's probably the defining moment in the history of this city. Thanks for covering it.

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide Před rokem +6

      Probably? I'd say aside from the day the city was founded nothing more defining has happened.

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 Před rokem +4

      Basically every single building was destroyed.
      It is about as defining as the great city fires.

    • @DevilSurvivor69
      @DevilSurvivor69 Před rokem

      @Caellum O'Cinneide I wanted to leave some room for doubt :), but it is to me anyway. Thanks for replying.

  • @joeschembrie9450
    @joeschembrie9450 Před rokem +11

    The SS Imo increased her speed above the harbor limit. The SS Clara was on the wrong side of the passage. The Stella Maris should have been farther starboard as well. The Mont Blanc was the only ship following correct procedure. Yet the Captain of the Mont Blanc was the first to be blamed.

  • @roboterson
    @roboterson Před rokem +75

    I live in Canada and the main reason I know of this is because every year as part of our French class we had to choose a topic to do a speech on(increasing in length each year), and every single year this one guy chose this as a topic. Each year he would add a few extra sentences that would pad out the time to meet the new minimum length.

    • @jlinkous05
      @jlinkous05 Před rokem +12

      By the final one, the speech had been blown quite out of proportion!

    • @mangofoxx
      @mangofoxx Před rokem +8

      Ironically, because he put in the minimum effort, his speech ended up being far more memorable for it .

    • @jlinkous05
      @jlinkous05 Před rokem +5

      @@mangofoxx Perhaps not. The person had already done this multiple times and isn't a stranger to the content. Maybe a slackard for padding it, but certantly better than that one guy who had never heard about manatees and tries to do a 20 minute presentation on them!

  • @nonna_sof5889
    @nonna_sof5889 Před rokem +339

    It's worth remembering the Mont Blanc was a French ship with a French speaking crew they tried to warn bystanders when they got to shore, but lacked the words to do so. Some are said to have picked up children and run away from the ship to try to get people to follow them, though I can't confirm this.

    • @BA-gn3qb
      @BA-gn3qb Před rokem +7

      Last I checked, many Canadians speak French.

    • @RafiMacD
      @RafiMacD Před rokem +119

      @@BA-gn3qb not in Halifax. Source: I'm from here. This is true.

    • @MartinCech-jb3eh
      @MartinCech-jb3eh Před rokem +29

      @@BA-gn3qb In quebec, yeah

    • @acadiant2756
      @acadiant2756 Před rokem +14

      @@BA-gn3qb if any did it would be a diffrent french, Acadian french which is spoken in the maritimes( and Halifax and nova scotia as a whole is mostly english) Acadian french is so diffrent from the french spoken in france that they may as well have been speaking Japanese

    • @barmybarmecide5390
      @barmybarmecide5390 Před rokem +26

      @@acadiant2756 not true at all, Acadien french is pretty difficult for most other french speakers, but nowhere near different enough to be incomprehensible. It's closer to a Londoner or Australian trying to understand a thick Scots brogue, takes a bit of getting used to

  • @danmur15
    @danmur15 Před rokem +67

    I grew up in Massachusetts so every year we would hear about this story around Christmas time. Boston sent a lot of aid to Halifax after the disaster and every year Halifax supplies Boston with its Christmas tree as thanks.

  • @AndyHappyGuy
    @AndyHappyGuy Před rokem +175

    Not so fun fact:
    The SS Imo was formerly called the SS Runic, which once belonged to the White Star Line, the same company which operated the SS Atlantic and RMS Titanic. Atlantic and Titanic both sank near to Halifax and had a substantial amount of their victims' bodies buried there. Coincidentally, White Star Lines biggest rival, Cunard Line, was founded in Halifax.
    White Star Line always had a part to play in their rival's hometown's worst 3 maritime disasters.

    • @realfreemaple
      @realfreemaple Před rokem +21

      I feel a conspiracy theory here

    • @wanderingbufoon
      @wanderingbufoon Před rokem +8

      @@realfreemapleexpensive too

    • @AndyHappyGuy
      @AndyHappyGuy Před rokem +17

      @notexpatjoe5687 I just thought it was a funny coincidence that White Star Line had some involvement in these incidents, even if Imo hadn't been Runic for 22 years.

    • @wanderingbufoon
      @wanderingbufoon Před rokem +4

      @@notexpatjoe this is why it's clever, no one would suspect ice bergs to be employed by them.

    • @jetblackjoy
      @jetblackjoy Před 3 měsíci

      Days when SS Runic bore no connotations beyond a normal White Star Line steamship...😅

  • @ingvarhallstrom2306
    @ingvarhallstrom2306 Před rokem +142

    This is the first time I've heard the Imo had already passed two ships on the "wrong" side and didn't have the capacity to turn back. I've always wondered why the didn't want to yield, but this puts things in a totally different perspective for me.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Před rokem +3

      Mont Blanc was carrying a yellow signal indicating explosives. The Imo should have beached herself to her port side.

    • @CortexNewsService
      @CortexNewsService Před rokem +1

      Same here

    • @RebelCowboysRVs
      @RebelCowboysRVs Před rokem +9

      One of the other videos on this said he had a temper. He had to have his ship fixed once. When it was time to pay, he took issue with the nationality of the person that owned the shipyard an refued to pay. I think he also attacked the guy. The cops had to hunt him down, impound his ship an make him pay. This event he was being pushed down the priority list making him late. Getting loaded for coal to late to leave that night probably had him mad all night. Already mad an in a hurry enoght to leave first thing in the moring and speed, then forced to move for two other ships. He was probably cussing pretty bad when he found himself nose to nose with a third ship. I think him being pissed off was the issue. The horn exchange and then the other ship thinking he had time to cut across after, sounds like they were pretty far apart when the original refusal was made.

  • @Interitus1
    @Interitus1 Před rokem +48

    It's one of those things where you have to go to Halifax to really understand how big this explosion was. I remember being there and getting further and further away from the water thinking surely I would have been safe at this distance, but no, I would have most likely died. The Maritime Museum has exhibits on the explosion and one of the largest collections of artifacts from the Titanic since recovered bodies were buried in the city.

  • @Strelnikov403
    @Strelnikov403 Před rokem +21

    Haligonian here! This is easily one of the best summaries of the Explosion I've ever seen on this site. Errors are few and far between, and you present the subject with the candor and grace it deserves. Amazingly well done!

    • @scottcarter6623
      @scottcarter6623 Před rokem

      agreed. doesn't cover everything, but concise and well told.

  • @barkboingfloom
    @barkboingfloom Před rokem +25

    Every year, for the past 51 years, The City of Halifax sends a Christmas tree south to Boston in continual thanks for Beantown's prompt medical and relief aid following the explosion.

  • @zach11241
    @zach11241 Před rokem +93

    “We’re about to cause the biggest non-nuclear explosion!”
    “What’s a ‘nuclear’?”
    “No idea! But we’re gonna almost be close to it!!!”

    • @filipinordabest
      @filipinordabest Před rokem +3

      They surely knew about radioactivity and fission by then, but not how big it can get.

    • @seventh-hydra
      @seventh-hydra Před rokem +5

      ​​@@filipinordabest Wasn't until '38 they discovered fission. At the time I think the most they had was the fact Marie Curie was doing some research into "a theory called radioactivity"
      But I could be totally wrong on that one

  • @knotbumper
    @knotbumper Před rokem +14

    The Motherhouse for the Sisters of Charity of Halifax was on the reverse slope of one of the hills. My 8th grade teacher in 1965 told stories of her and other sisters (she was a novice at the time) going through the city after the blast and fire looking for people to help and bodies to recover. It was her 16th birthday. What a way to remember your 16th birthday.

  • @MCGreen13
    @MCGreen13 Před rokem +94

    Fire and Flame by The Longest Johns tells the story of the Mont Blanc in the style of a sea shanty, it’s very well done.

    • @dbadilotti
      @dbadilotti Před rokem +20

      Indeed, can't recommend this song enough! Especially the verse about Vince Coleman:
      One man, Patrick Coleman, in the railway's employ
      sent word: 'Stop the trains or they'll all be destroyed
      This will be my last message, farewell to you, boys.'
      For a true hero's death he had earned

    • @MaxHolleyBC
      @MaxHolleyBC Před rokem +5

      I have the album cures what ails ya on vinyl and it sounds great

    • @clarencejacobowitz640
      @clarencejacobowitz640 Před rokem +7

      This song is how I know about the explosion! It's an amazing song.

    • @ninoski4043
      @ninoski4043 Před rokem +4

      I can't believe you are so far below, I literally came here to see the historical explanation of the shanty

    • @jffry890
      @jffry890 Před rokem +3

      Cures What Ails Ya is a flawless album. Every song is great.

  • @uplink-on-yt
    @uplink-on-yt Před rokem +120

    The maritime equivalent of "I'm a great driver, and I can safely go faster than the speed limit. The authorities just want to control me."

    • @Elliottblancher
      @Elliottblancher Před rokem +10

      You mean the Maritime equivalent of Jeremy Clarkson thinking that speed and power is the answer to everything

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před rokem +1

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E

    • @chrispykriss
      @chrispykriss Před 11 měsíci +5

      Also the marine equivalent of "Cemeteries are filled with people that had the right of way."

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien Před 11 měsíci

      Speed limits shouldn't exist. They are literally pointless and arbritary. Their only purpose is for the state to leech more money off of us. Bad drivers are more of a danger than some meaningless arbritary limit on speed.

    • @SM-cq1mm
      @SM-cq1mm Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​@@AverageAlienbad drivers are the one who tend to break the speed limit anyway, if you are going 40 in a narrow road near a school, where the speed limit is like 10 then that's call being reckless.
      Speed limits are fine, we do need to mandate a certain maximum speed for certain roads, otherwise plenty of people will drive way too fast at the risk of others.

  • @athompso99
    @athompso99 Před rokem +34

    "Not well known"? I guess, if you aren't Canadian...
    My great-grandmother was quite a ways from the harbour, washing my infant great-uncle in a bassinet near the kitchen door that day, but of course facing the front window wondering what was going on. When the ship exploded, she lost an eye to a shard of the shattered front window. But my great-uncle was unscathed, as the explosion tore the front door off its hinges... landing directly across the bassinet, effectively forming a shield for him. Luckily for my existence, her husband was working on the railroad away from home that day!

  • @Dracalis
    @Dracalis Před rokem +34

    Coincidentally, I was telling my friend from Australia about the Halifax explosion last night. I first learned about it from a Canadian Heritage Minute as a little kid - a series of short history lessons that used to play on TV during commercial breaks. That one focused on the perspective of Vince Coleman, the train dispatcher who stayed behind to telegraph incoming trains, warning them to stop, and thus died in the blast.
    Nobody had explained the Imo's navigation to me before this though. Thank you.

  • @T.N.S.A.F.
    @T.N.S.A.F. Před rokem +8

    Born and raised in Halifax I take the time every year to remember those that lost their lives and the many others that suffered life long disabilities in this tragic event.
    I can only imagine how difficult it must have been to cope with this at a time when they did not have the luxuries and resources we have today.

  • @erikscribner970
    @erikscribner970 Před rokem +10

    In the Marine Museum downtown they have a large exhibit dedicated to the explosion. Seeing solid iron over a foot thick twisted and warped like soft clay sent a chill down my spine.

  • @andrewjugler6314
    @andrewjugler6314 Před rokem +4

    Crazy how this story is not told more often in transportation safety. An incident of this magnitude reminds me of the explosion in Lebanon a few years back.

  • @brendanotoole5871
    @brendanotoole5871 Před rokem +13

    My great grand mother lived in halifax at the time of the explosion, and she was engaged to one of the fire fighters who responded that morning. He didn't make it, and she eventually married my great grandfather.
    It's always neat to imagine how big the explosion was when you're going over the Mackay bridge. Nice to see some hometown history on this channel! :)

  • @sapdude44
    @sapdude44 Před rokem +6

    One of my moms friends' grandmother was late for school the day of the explosion. She was far enough away that she was fine, but she kept going and when she got to the school her whole class was dead. I don't remember all the details of the story but its awful to think about. And I still remember the heritage minute they played all the time

  • @Siderod
    @Siderod Před rokem +3

    Hello from a Nova Scotia native and current resident of a Halifax suburb. I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to make this video. I always enjoy your work, but this one hits especially close to home. Its surprising how 'unknown' this story is, especially in the younger generation, even in Canada.
    One of our cross-harbour ferries is named after the railroad telegraph operator who sacrificed his life to try to save the lives onboard an inbound passenger train, and one of the new Royal Canadian Navy tugs under construction is going to be named Stella Maris. The CSS Acadia (the prefix CSS meaning Canadian Survey Ship, a name she earned after WWII when she returned to service with Canadian Hydrographic), her pier-mate HMCS Sackville (the last remaining Flower Class Corvette) and the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic are exceptional museums if you're ever in the area.

  • @Shinigami_Dono
    @Shinigami_Dono Před rokem +5

    My Grandmother lived near Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island approximately 180 kilometres (111 miles) from Halifax when this happened. She would have been around 11 or 12 years old at the time and she remembered feeling the ground shaking when the explosion happened. The earthquake caused by the explosion also broke windows in Truro, Nova Scotia approximately 80 kilometres (49 miles) away.

  • @baileywright1656
    @baileywright1656 Před rokem +23

    Thanks for covering this! I have always been moved by this tragedy. Interesting fact, the Acadia is actually the CSS Acadia (Canadian Survey Ship) and was the first ship built to survey the Canadian North. She was commissioned by the RCN for both world wars and is the only surviving ship to have served in both.

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller Před rokem

      Awesome information, Bailey! Have a great day!

    • @greatcanadianmoose3965
      @greatcanadianmoose3965 Před rokem +2

      @@RealBradMiller It's also the only ship still around that survived the halifax explosion!

    • @megamatt614
      @megamatt614 Před rokem +2

      Last time I was down at the pier they were doing some repair work on the main deck it looked like, definitely a cool floating museum

    • @greatcanadianmoose3965
      @greatcanadianmoose3965 Před rokem

      @@megamatt614 I was there this summer, the main deck is open, just not the top or below decks

  • @hqwefg
    @hqwefg Před rokem +16

    one of the reasons why the explosion was so powerful was because when it blew up, the force that would normally be lost travelling down to the sea floor was reflected back by the bowl nature of the harbour, this was actually studied afterwards and is why the Atomic bomb was set as an airbust in 1945; to increase its power.
    Also the Mont Blanc's captain was initially seen at fault because the entire Mont Blanc crew survived because they abandoned the ship so early rather than trying to fight the fire. Most of the population saw this not only as cowardly but also negligence, as even though they probably could have done very little to stop the blaze they lived while 1600 people did not even though it was THEIR ship. Not a good look no matter the circumstances.

  • @waverleyjournalise5757
    @waverleyjournalise5757 Před rokem +13

    Wow. The quality of these videos just keeps getting better... you really have a way to tell a story. Such a huge disaster that I'm surprised I hadn't heard more about it.
    Also, congratulations on the WoWs sponsorship, I always thought it would fit your channel nicely

  • @canadiancreed1
    @canadiancreed1 Před rokem +1

    There used to be a commercial series called Heritage Moments that was on Canadian TV and the one for this hits hard.

  • @peterhall6656
    @peterhall6656 Před rokem +2

    Simply staggering at so many levels.

  • @user-nb9xl1cf4m
    @user-nb9xl1cf4m Před rokem +6

    When I was a college boy, there was a professor from Halifax, Canada and he told us that explosion briefly. It was such a terrible story to hear… 😢

  • @gabrieldoucette5887
    @gabrieldoucette5887 Před rokem +2

    I know all about this and actually searched specifically to see if you did a video about it.
    But I've live in NS my whole life, growing up in Cape Breton and actually live in Dartmouth now so I learned it all in school.
    Stoked you did a video about it all!
    ❤️

  • @francikaa1
    @francikaa1 Před rokem +15

    The toluene onboard was used in F1 cars back in the 80s where was no restriction on the type of fuel. Cars made 1400 HP on it. It was banned eventually. Also was used as rocket fuel.

    • @tomkandy
      @tomkandy Před rokem +6

      Toluene was never used as rocket fuel. It was and still is used in high octane racing fuel because it's resistant to predetonation, allowing higher compression / boost.

    • @francikaa1
      @francikaa1 Před rokem +1

      @@tomkandy Toluene was used briefly as a rocket fuel in the 1930’s. But it lost out to other fuels that were better performance and better properties so it is not used anymore.- Reddit

    • @pigsnoutman
      @pigsnoutman Před rokem +1

      Toluene isn't more flammable or energetic than gasoline. It is pure chemical product, so its more consistent but for the relevant properties here, it's equivalent to gasoline.

    • @francikaa1
      @francikaa1 Před rokem

      @@pigsnoutman When you look up the fuel data there is not much difference, but Toluene burns much faster than petrol or diesel. That's why car are much faster using it. Just like the Top Fuel cars on methanol and nitromethane.

  • @projectarduino2295
    @projectarduino2295 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The folk song “Fire and Flame” about this is really good.

  • @PendragonDaGreat
    @PendragonDaGreat Před rokem +2

    Then, the day after the explosion, Halifax was cut off from basically the rest of the world by a blizzard that stopped trains and road traffic. 16 inches (41cm) of snow kept more supplies from coming in for multiple days, and those without shelter were now even more exposed. The snow did help put out some of the lingering fires, so that's a plus, overall a massive disaster largely unknown outside Canada. In the Seattle area we were never taught about it in school directly, but I did learn about it as a tangential piece to a paper I had to write on the impact of submarines in WWI.

  • @shannonrhoads7099
    @shannonrhoads7099 Před rokem +1

    During your WoW ad, there's a bit where it says "Enemy Cruiser Sunk!" In my head, I had the image of USS Johnston coming out of the explosions. :D

  • @hwighting
    @hwighting Před rokem +15

    fun fact: the Province of Nova Scotia has hand picked and gifted the City of Boston their official Christmas tree each year since 1971, in commemoration of Boston’s assistance during the aftermath of the explosion.

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 Před rokem +4

    This is the first time I've ever seen an explanation of why the Imo was on the wrong side.

    • @fearsomefawkes6724
      @fearsomefawkes6724 Před rokem +1

      SAME! I've heard this story my whole life and this is the first time anyone ever talked about how they ended up in that position in the first place, other than 'being in a hurry'.

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 Před rokem

      @@fearsomefawkes6724 yeah it really puts it in context. They were practically forced to the wrong side, they had no choice

  • @jake_mackinnon
    @jake_mackinnon Před rokem +1

    I live in Prince Edward Island, about 250 kilometers from Halifax (it's about a five-hour trip including the ferry off the Island) and was working outside an abandoned home up the road this week. The landowner took me over and showed me one of the windows, which had been cracked in the Explosion. There were windows blown out all across the Maritimes from the shockwave.

  • @kylebrodie5860
    @kylebrodie5860 Před rokem +1

    I live a couple kilometers from where it happened, we still send a giant Christmas tree to Boston every year as a thank you for their massive support over one hundred years ago

  • @user-he6nx1np4q
    @user-he6nx1np4q Před rokem +3

    There is a great song by The Longest Johns about this tragedy called fire & flame and it goes like this:
    Let me sing you a song, boys, of fire and flame
    Of a French ammo ship, the Mont-Blanc was her name
    How the brave Nova Scotia was never the same
    On the morning when Halifax burned
    'Twas in early December 1917
    She was packed to the gills with Grade A T-N-T
    They were bound for the fighting in High Germany
    When towards them the other ship turned
    The Norweigan ship Imo, some fault in her gears
    She struck Mont-Blanc's side like the mightiest of spears
    And the benzol ignited the captain's worst fears
    As the fire consumed bow to stern
    The people gazed on from their safe distant rooms
    Watched the soot and the smoke fill the sky with their plumes
    But within, the ships cargo would spell all their dooms
    How were they to know to be concerned?
    The crew rowed for shore, lest they burn or they drown
    They cried, "Save your souls!" as they ran through the town
    But their warnings were nothing but strange foreign sounds
    For the townsfolk, no French had they learned
    One man, Patrick Coleman, in the railway's employ
    Sent word, "Stop the trains or they'll all be destroyed
    This will be my last message, farewell to you, boys"
    For a true hero's death he had earned
    An explosion, colossal, when the munitions blew
    Devastation and debris for miles fired through
    The Mont-Blanc was gone, and the town with it, too
    And the waters raged up in return
    There were heroes and angels all fated to die
    Over two thousand souls laid to rest by-and-by
    We will always remember and lift a glass high
    To the morning when Halifax burned

    • @chrisoneill5599
      @chrisoneill5599 Před rokem

      I'm glad someone else knows the song, I came scrolling much further than I expected to looking for this

  • @RealBradMiller
    @RealBradMiller Před rokem +2

    I've heard this story in detail a hundred times, but I've never SEEN it. Wonderful vid!

  • @JPR3D
    @JPR3D Před rokem +1

    I randomly stumbled across your channel yesterday and I love it, thanks man.

  • @rjeffm1
    @rjeffm1 Před rokem +2

    I am from Halifax. I'm sure many tourists walking through downtown wonder why the north facing city hall clock is wrong. It is stopped at the time of the explosion.

  • @CrankyPantss
    @CrankyPantss Před rokem +1

    Thanks for sharing this sad story with us and explaining the details of how it happened. Excellent video, as always.

  • @Alexrocksdude_
    @Alexrocksdude_ Před rokem +2

    Excellent video! This event should definitely be more well known.

  • @hellhoundactual8201
    @hellhoundactual8201 Před rokem +54

    When the news reached Boston, the Chief Medical Officer there immediately began loading Doctors and nurses onto a Train.
    he then sent a Telegram to Halifax after the train left stating something along the lines of apologizing for not openly telling them ahead of time and just sending the train

    • @ThisGM
      @ThisGM Před rokem +13

      Which is just good emergency response. Help first, niceties later.
      Halifax sent them a Christmas tree as a thank you (Nova Scotia has long had excellent trees, used to be where the Royal Navy sourced their masts from). They restarted the tradition it 1971 and do it every year now.

    • @hellhoundactual8201
      @hellhoundactual8201 Před rokem +2

      @@ThisGM Oh Im well aware We send them christmas Trees.
      I grew up in Halifax :)

  • @kartaku132
    @kartaku132 Před 9 měsíci

    Little piece of Trivia about this. When this happened, there was doctors from Boston. On a doctor and nurse exchange, they radio to Boston and Boston sentive food. Blankets, doctors, nurses, other people to help And because of that, Nova Scotia wanted to thank Boston. But after the explosion, they didn't have a lot to give. But something we have a lot of here in Nova Scotia is trees, so they sent a tree to Boston for Christmas to say thank you, and it's a tradition we still do today, and if you were ever wondering why Nova Scotia gives a Christmas tree every year to boston, this is why. It's to thank Boston for what they did.

  • @Johnnyvaughan2129
    @Johnnyvaughan2129 Před rokem

    Perfect illustration of what happen… I grew up in Halifax and heard the story many times from my father and the few survivors when I was a kid…. I got chills just listening to this… thanks for sharing.

  • @PS1212
    @PS1212 Před rokem +1

    Best sponsor pairing yet

  • @N3gativeChill
    @N3gativeChill Před rokem

    I’m so happy you finally made a video on this, I’ve been waiting since I started watching you ❤

  • @eisenerballer
    @eisenerballer Před rokem +2

    Hmcs Acadia was closed to the public last time I was down to the waterfront a month ago. I think they were doing some conservation work on it. Well worth taking the tour if you ever get the opportunity

  • @simonrancourt7834
    @simonrancourt7834 Před rokem +1

    I saw several videos on the Halifax explosion, yours is the best.

  • @hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156

    I knew about the Halifax explosion, but I had no idea that submarine nets were a thing. Thank you very much for having me learn about this amazing technology. Cheers!

  • @matthewandrews3036
    @matthewandrews3036 Před rokem +1

    An interesting related story is the SS Richard Montgomery that sunk after running aground in the UK during WWII. It sits 50ft under water still loaded with 1400 Tons of various bombs. No explosion yet.

  • @th484953
    @th484953 Před rokem

    This was a wonderful, extremely detailed, yet concise video! Growing up in Halifax you hear the story and I've read about it in the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic but this gave me the clearest understanding of the order of events that led to the disaster.
    I'll add, the pilot of the Imo, William Hayes, was a relative of mine and my older relatives didn't like to talk about it as it was still seen as a black mark on the family nearly a century later.

  • @kartaku132
    @kartaku132 Před 9 měsíci

    I live 5 hours away from Halifax and I was told this story by my grandmother who was told by her grandparents That when the halifax explosion happened, the explosion was so violent. Here in Cape Breton which like I said, is 5 hours away. They heard the plates and silverware and cutlery rattle in the cupboards.

  • @rogerrendzak8055
    @rogerrendzak8055 Před rokem +1

    I first learned of this story, from a book I read, when I was six. It stuck with me, since I was young and 🥺, till this day. I remember talking about it, to my Dad. He told me, a kinda realistic version of it, which in turn scared, the crap outta me😱!!! That was 1968, and I still will watch ANY documentary, I come across.

  • @patanouketgersiflet9486
    @patanouketgersiflet9486 Před rokem +4

    During peace time, ships carrying explosives are required to fly a precise type of flag to warn others. The Mont Blanc being a French ship in 1917, it didn't fly the required flag so as not to paint a crosshair inviting German U-Boots to sink it.

    • @stephenp448
      @stephenp448 Před rokem +1

      French or not, no munitions ship was going to fly the red flag with the threat of u-boats about.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 Před rokem

      @@stephenp448 Good point. However, a ship from a neutral country, could be, I don't know.

    • @alexandererhard2516
      @alexandererhard2516 Před rokem +1

      @@patanouketgersiflet9486 Germany by 1917 had already sunk quite a number of neutral ships supplying Britain and France with food and weapons.
      A huge factor in eventually provoking the USA to join.

  • @CJ-eh9pg
    @CJ-eh9pg Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing the history of my hometown!!

  • @4thfrom7
    @4thfrom7 Před rokem +1

    I heard a short version of this story a weirdly high number of times as a kid. Very cool to have some of the blank spaces filled in.

  • @LORDSPHYNX
    @LORDSPHYNX Před rokem +1

    Can’t believe I had never heard of this event, another fine video mate

  • @JackBlpck427
    @JackBlpck427 Před rokem +1

    Dang, the quality of your animations has definitely improved!

  • @wientz
    @wientz Před rokem

    Thanks for explaining the initial reason for the collision.

  • @gwiyomikim5988
    @gwiyomikim5988 Před rokem

    A very fascinating and well crafted/narrated video.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @villebooks
    @villebooks Před rokem +1

    My time is too precious to play war games, but thank you for the informative video.

  • @Mountain-Man-3000
    @Mountain-Man-3000 Před rokem +1

    As a Canadian, I have definitely heard of this.

  • @terrymumford7659
    @terrymumford7659 Před rokem +2

    Good Video! Just a few additions to your information. In French, an "I" is pronounced like an "E" in English, so the ship's name is pronounced like EMO. The submarine net extended from McNabb's Island to the Halifax side of the shore of the harbour mouth. When the Mont Blanc arrived at the mouth of Halifax Harbour too late to be admitted, her Captain was so concerned that he had the red hazardous cargo flag taken down. He was nervous that flying the red flag would make the Mont Blanc more of a target while at anchor outside the harbour that night. The Captain was in such a hurry to get inside the safety of the harbour the next morning, that he did not remember to raise the red warning flag. This would have given some warning to other ships that the Mont Blanc was a floating bomb. Your explanation of the reason that the Imo was out of position in the Narrows was the best I have ever seen. Good work.

  • @LukeGilhamHere
    @LukeGilhamHere Před rokem

    Hey casual navigation! I really really look forward to your videos! Thanks!

  • @jamesgroccia644
    @jamesgroccia644 Před 8 měsíci

    The largest contributions to Halifax's recovery after the blast came from Boston, MA. Every winter holiday season thereafter, the people of Halifax delivered a giant Christmas tree to the Faneuil Hall Market Square as thanks. So far, the tradition remains unbroken.

  • @kev3d
    @kev3d Před rokem +1

    Ever walk down a hall and someone is going in the opposite direction and you both step in the same direction to avoid each other and it produces this awkward dance?
    Basically that, with ships and tons of explosives.

  • @belamoure
    @belamoure Před rokem +3

    Thank you you are the first you helped me visualize the extent of the damages inflicted to poor Haligonians and the anchor of the Mont Blanc blasted 20 km south of Halifax !!! Wow!

    • @arthanor9631
      @arthanor9631 Před rokem +2

      two and a half miles, not 20 km! But still, it's a huge distance for an anchor to fly.

    • @belamoure
      @belamoure Před rokem +1

      @@arthanor9631 Oh my gosh thank you I was so impressed I saw double. My apologies.

    • @megamatt614
      @megamatt614 Před rokem

      @@belamourethe anchor is actually still on display in the north west arm where edmunds estate used to be

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian Před rokem +2

    You guessed wrong if you think that we haven't heard of it. You underestimated our love of history.

  • @trinomial-nomenclature

    I was born and lived in Nova Scotia for most of my life, about 3 hours away from Halifax. Not during the explosion, obviously, but it's history is everywhere in Nova Scotia, especially in museums and information centers.
    My grandmother was living in Halifax with her husband at the time. I can't remember what he did for work but it was something that had him working around the wharf. When the explosion happened she had no way of knowing if her husband was ok and wasn't allowed to go down to the wharf, plus she had children to tend to. After hours and hours, her husband finally showed up, I can only imagine the relief she felt when he walked through the door.

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker Před rokem +5

    Part of the tragedy of stories like this is all of the "if onlys." If only this or that or some other thing had happened just a little bit differently ...

    • @normang3668
      @normang3668 Před rokem +1

      Most man-made disasters tend to happen this way. They're almost always a perfect storm in which a half-dozen unlikely circumstances all occur simultaneously. We tend to make the mistake of thinking that one or two minor oversights aren't a big deal, that a little leniency with safety precautions won't cause a disaster.
      Individually, none of the mistakes seem particularly hazardous. Collectively, they can have tremendous consequences.
      It's almost like getting a royal flush in poker. . . The odds are extremely unlikely, but never zero.

  • @mukhtar__
    @mukhtar__ Před rokem

    congrats on 500k !!

  • @Siriussky22
    @Siriussky22 Před rokem

    Thank you for making this video I’ve been wanting to know more about this

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for documenting this old incident. In the end, it was a consequence of changed attitudes because of wartime...

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 Před rokem +2

    The RMS Olympic sailed from Halifax just a couple days before carrying 6000+ troops to the war in Europe. If she'd been delayed by engine trouble or bad weather... Doesn't bare thinking about.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Před rokem

      She was a tough girl. Depends heavily how close she would have been and how many were on deck.

    • @doomfork
      @doomfork Před rokem

      Interesting. I knew she'd been in to Halifax (there's a lovely painting of her in dazzle camo tied up in Halifax) but I didn't know how soon before the explosion that was.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Před rokem

      @@doomfork I believe Historic Travels (wonderful channel, you'll love it if you like this one) RMS Olympic timeline includes a bit more detail on where she was. I can't remember exactly but it really was by a day or three that she missed being wrecked and I think she was moored quite close. Anyway check out his video it's great. As well the Britannic, Lusitania and Titanic timelines. They're about 2h and very detailed so grab some beers or snacks.
      czcams.com/video/1NlvOuA_-zI/video.html

    • @megamatt614
      @megamatt614 Před rokem

      @@user-lv7ph7hs7lI mean Halifax as a whole was flattened with citadel hill really being the only thing standing because it’s dug right into the top of Halifax’s hill, I’m not sure it would’ve survived it tbh since the ship detonated right next to the dock yards

  • @markwagoner3599
    @markwagoner3599 Před rokem

    I have heard of it. I remember reading all about it way back in the 70's as a teenager.

  • @laszlokaestner5766
    @laszlokaestner5766 Před rokem

    I learnt about this disaster many years ago as part of my family are from Halifax and Nova Scotia, We visited in the early ninties and I remember seeing the remnant of Mont Blanc's anchor which is now mounted on a plinth were it landed.

  • @petarbuha176
    @petarbuha176 Před rokem +1

    So happy I caught this vid early! The story is insane :O

  • @Rugopoly
    @Rugopoly Před rokem +1

    90’s kids in 🇨🇦 learned about this shipwreck from Heritage Minutes

  • @ktigerj
    @ktigerj Před rokem

    Love the channel. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @JiKimbo
    @JiKimbo Před rokem +1

    Never heard of this before. Thanks for sharing what is a very sad loss of life.
    Re the Imo, can't believe someone would get that smashed that they collapse and run aground 🤦‍♂️

  • @dylandepetro4187
    @dylandepetro4187 Před rokem +2

    The Longest Johns have a song about this called Fire And Flame. Also, a little surprised Drachinifel hasn’t covered this topic yet… or at least as far as I know. Might be buried somewhere in his thousand’s of videos.

    • @theawickward2255
      @theawickward2255 Před rokem +2

      He's answered a few drydock questions about it, but no special on it yet. He says he intends to at some point.

    • @dylandepetro4187
      @dylandepetro4187 Před rokem

      @@theawickward2255 danke. Didn’t know if he had done a video about it yet or not.

  • @73caddydaddy93
    @73caddydaddy93 Před rokem

    That's why now, whenever Shaggy's "Mr. Boombastic" is played in Halifax, there's a moment of silence that's observed afterwards

  • @RmsOceanic
    @RmsOceanic Před rokem +2

    Interesting sidenote: The _Imo_ was initially launched as the SS _Runic_ of the White Star Line.

  • @blue04mx53
    @blue04mx53 Před 8 měsíci

    When we were there a few years ago we stood by the canon that was thrown miles from the explosion. It is mind blowing to look way off to the distance and think that it came all that way.
    The maritime museum alone is worth a trip to Halifax.
    Cheers !

  • @jackcallahan1848
    @jackcallahan1848 Před rokem +1

    There’s a good song about the Halifax explosion called the morning that Halifax burned.

  • @88997799
    @88997799 Před rokem +2

    If they found the anchor and gun miles from the ship it’s easy to conclude it doesn’t exist anymore..