incorrect about the sorting. the hat places students based upon the qualities the student PRIZES...not the qualities the student POSSESSES. It is our CHOICES that determine who we are...far more than our abilities. Pettigrew was a coward, but he valued those who were brave. we sought solice and protection by surrounding himself with people he saw were stronger and braver then he. For a time...this meant james potter and the maurders....until he sought to be protected by a wizard he felt even more powerful...voldemort.
Though they're gross and spread disease, rats are intelligent, as well as being affectionate and loyal among those they care about. (Mostly other rats). Quit disparaging rats.
In spite of his rage, he is still just a rat in a cage, haha. I can even see him singing like that bloke in smashing pumpkings, his voice is so bloody bad. Bella L
I agree he is the worst, but Voldemort got no soul, so like he still should be first. Turned on his own who were truly loyal more than once. So Voldemort, then Peter/Umbridge tie thel Lucy. LOL Bella L
But Voldemort didn't betray his friends and had a valid excuse to be evil. As he was the child of a love potion and a a non intended marriage. Whereas Peter had a circle of great friends such as James, Lilly, Sirius and Remus. He was the cause of Harry being an orphan. He had no reason to be the evil coward that he became. @@thelestrangelair
@@thelestrangelair Nah. 'Ol Volde never pretended to be good. He only toed the line so he could reach his goals (Not defending him). Pettigrew pretended to be good, when in reality he was weak and a coward. He made a choice to betray his friends. Between the two (Pettigrew and Riddle), Pettigrew is the true villain. Riddle didn't have a choice because he was literally born evil.
Personally I think the people who do evil shit and then hide behind another are worse. That's also Pettigrew, like Sirius said in the book, he didn't want to hurt Harry because he wanted to make sure Voldemort was the biggest bully on the playground again before trying anything, in case accountability came knocking
mercy or rather the choice to not kill is a beautiful thing. murder is not just a wrong thing to do for just taking a life but secondly its a horrible thing to do to another because it robs them of ever bettering themselves. it takes away all options and may doom a soul. kindness is always better than cruelty.
Peter pettigrew is the worst marauder. He has none of the bravery of Gryffindor and the Arrogance of James, the temper of Sirius, none of the kindness of Remus lupin.
Because an owl did not fly down and eat him while in rat form. I still have not read a fanfic where someone simply does that as a remove peter from the story twist
The funniest fic with him was on fanfiction and ao, by blaisegellert and I think the title was something like Lord Voldemort's true identity. Those authors usually fix plot holes but that one they just went total lol, it's a Southpark HP crossover and I hurt myself laughing. Said by someone who doesn't like most fanfiction. Bella L
He was weak. Weak people ALWAYS bring ruin. Give them an iota of power (i.e. when Pettigrew was made Secret Keeper), they WILL use it to their advantage.
One would think that before sending anyone to Azkaban that the Ministry of Magic would give the accused a truth potion to find out if he was guilty, but apparently it doesn't.
The difference between Peter and Neville is Peter had to deal with James while Neville got to be friends with Harry. It's a lesson in treating everyone equally, even if they may not be as smart/talented/attractive, because they have inherent worth as a human. James was a bully and ultimately it impacted his relationships with people close to him and was a factor in Peter's betrayal. If Harry, Ron and Hermione had treated Neville like that, I think we can imagine Neville walking over to the other side in Deathy Hallows.
Absolute rubbish, there is ZERO evidence that James ever mistreated Peter. You are just making stuff up because you hate James and you like to blame him for everything.
The magical hand Voldemort gave him after he sacrificed his own arm to essentially resurrect Voldemort(though he technically didn’t die as such) had a curse built into it that if Wormtail ever thought of disobeying Voldemort, the hand would turn on him and choke him to death. The reason the hand turned on him was because at Malfoy Manor when Harry and the others were imprisoned in the basement awaiting their fate, Wormtail was under orders to dispose of them(apart from Harry who was to be handed to Voldemort)but Harry stopped him by reminding him that he owed Harry a life debt from when Harry refused to let Sirius and Remus kill Wormtail. Wormtail hesitated for a second and that was enough for the hand to turn on him, Harry, Ron and Hermionie tried everything to save him but couldn’t and as such Wormtail was strangled to death by his own hand.
honestly i have mixed feelings on one hand i despise him because he's truly is a lot of things a traitor, a villain, a murderer, and a coward but on the other hand i pity him because he felt/feels like a wasted character kinda like how/what the dursley's feel like to me
Retired now. I've never read the books, I've watched the movies a couple times over and yours is one of the few detailed CZcams's on Harry Potter I've watched. One thing is fairly obvious, all of the evil and villainous characters consistently got picked on, belittled, marginalized and bullied by the heroes then their kids had to clean up the wreckage! Forgive me I'm new to 'canon' but is that truly what the story is about, the bullied becoming bullies, and then having to be defeated?
he lacked the defining characteristic's for all houses I guess the hat saw more potential to become a Gryffindor than the others but I am sure it was touch and go
Peter Pettigrew is the living proof that your house doesn't define who you are. Not all Gryffindors are brave just like not all Slytherins are a*shats.
I’m positive perttigrew was actually very attractive and charming. Maybe not so much after being a rat for 12 years, but still cleaned up well even after that. Change my mind
I really don't blame him for betraying his "friends" they treated him like a punching bag and constantly threw him down mentally. Those aren't friends, they are punks. The same thing happened to Sirius when James would torment him when they were in school. Although he didn't betray them due to his love for Lilly, it could have easily turned him as well. In the end Harry one of the only ones who didn't degrade him and actually helped him, did not die by his hands as he stopped himself because of Harry's good actions towards him. If people treated him better he wouldn't have been that way. I can relate to his mental anguish 100%
James never tormented Sirius, nor did Sirius have any special feeling for Lily. James and Sirius were twins in all but blood. They were both arrogant, inconsiderate bullies. Maybe you're thinking of Remus?
@@bluelightning118 They were shite friends. He didn't owe them any loyalty. James and Sirius would have never let him into their group and would have targeted him as well if not for Remus. Then Sirius was all too happy to turn on Remus. They were putting his life at risk by making him the Secret Keeper. And they never bothered to ask him IF he wanted to take the risk. Sirius just volunteered him because he thought Peter was too pathetic to catch anyone's interest. Fook'em both.
@@Spawned-uy8ip he didn’t owe Voldemort any loyalty either.he was to afraid of him to say no and even he himself calls pettegrew out on this fact.he knew the risks if he betrayed his friends that sooner or later they’d kill him for his betrayal.they may have been shit friends in the past but as adults they changed instead of being bullies.still no excuse for his betrayal as I said
@@bluelightning118 No they didn't change. That's the BS Rowling pushes to justify her love of bullies, just because they were Gryffindor, and therefore could do no wrong. Sirius never repented for trying to get Snape killed. Remus was still a coward that was too afraid to go against his thug friends. Harry was stuck with the Dursleys for over 12 years. What was Sirius' reason for finally breaking out of prison? Was it because he was so worried about his godson? Was it because he was concerned about the rest of his friends? Nope, he saw an ex-friend he wanted to murder. What a wonderful person! And he wasn't in love with Harry because he loved his godson that much. No, it was because he saw James every time he looked at Harry. he even cussed Harry out for not being more like James. I honestly think he would have become a bit abusive if Harry had gone to live with him. Because he didn't want Harry. No, he wanted his precious James Potter back. He picked fights with Snape at every given opportunity, calling him Snivellus, just as he did in his youth. So much change!!
The 'marauders' are such rubbish people. Even turning on their own friends. Lupin is alright, I think he just felt no one else would've been his friends. Had he and Severus met earlier, perhaps they could've been friends instead. Sirius, I deeply believe had odd, it's a disorder, google it. He is dreadful and Rowling glorifying bullies is nearly as disappointing as cursed play. Bella L
@@ChanBang-bm9ci The ironic thing is Snape himself would probably agree with your assessment of his character but the self righteous hypocrites that were the Marauders wouldn't have the self awareness to critique themselves which is exactly why they couldn't smell the rat in their midst.
@@jameswitt108 he should agree, because he’s was in a full on hate group and called people slurs and his actions got Lily killed in the first place. Mind you, he didn’t change sides because he thought was Voldemort was doing was bad or anything. Sirius hates Snape, but he said himself he feels bad and Remus made him feel guilty. They obviously would admit they weren’t great people. But in comparison? It’s not as bad as stuff Snape did, not the fact that Snape bullies children as a 30+ year old man. That’s worse. They didn’t notice Peter was a traitor because he’s been their friend for 10 years, Peter is is like the Neville of the group, it’s not that they wouldn’t notice because he’s a twat. It’s in fact because he is too in the background to seem like he’d do anything. Would Harry think Neville would betray him? No because Harry thinks the same way as James. Harry doesn’t believe anyone he knows would’ve betrayed him during the 7 potters mission, and Remus points out how he’s just like his dad because James trusted his friends completely. That’s all it is, because James is a dick to people he likes, we know. But he’s extremely loyal to his friends. I think y’all overcomplicate things
@@ChanBang-bm9ci He would agree because he's the only one we actually see go through a massive change in character. He was bigoted against muggleborns as a child due to his childhood and school experiences but at the end of the story he couldn't even stand hearing slurs against them and protected them at great personal risk for no reward. I'm pretty sure culpability for the Potter's demise was down to Pettigrew, Voldemort, Snape and the Marauders failed plans although Snape defected and sought their protection as soon he realized Lily was in danger mind you at this time he had no obligation to help Lily and if he were the kind of person you think he was he'd have gleefully rejoiced in her destruction. The fact that Snape did change sides is more admirable imo than those who never had an incentive to defect to either side, the Marauders never had a reason to join Voldemort just like Lucius never had a reason to join Dumbledore because it wasn't in their interests to do so. The light side was dominant in wizarding society and they were rich and popular whereas Snape had a plethora of reasons to join Voldemort, chiefly societal rejection, seeking power, status and knowledge none of which the light side offered him and yet he turned away from this when it mattered. There's no evidence Sirius feels bad about his treatment of Snape and he continues to disrespect him even as an Order member and Remus is a classic case of the bystander effect from his schooling days, consider that Snape brewed him wolfsbane potion and taught his classes when he was incapacitated and Remus still resorted to childish pranks reminiscent of the Marauder era so he's no better. You say they would admit to not being great people but that just isn't in their character, they've not shown an ounce of self awareness so much so they couldn't see that one of their mates was disaffected to the point that he betrayed them, Sirius and James thought so little of Remus and were bigoted against him as a werewolf to the point that they assumed he was the traitor and arrogantly changed the password keeper to their own detriment. We haven't even talked about Sirius's betrayal of Remus by sending Snape to see him at the whomping willow as a werewolf, he basically treated a person who was supposed to be his friend as a pit bull for a prank. With regards to teachers please note that Harry Potter depicts english teachers of the time in an exhagerated manner as according to Filch, it’s not long ago that students were punished with days-long sessions of extreme physical punishment, and we see the Ministry authorise him to whip the students. Arthur Weasley, who was at school during the 1960s, was punished for canoodling with Molly in some way so severe that he was physically scarred for life. Molly is held up as the ideal mother, yet she beats Fred with a broom handle and publicly humiliates her kids with Howlers. Hagrid is held up as this lovely sweet guy, yet we see him carry out a vicious, painful and potentially lethal magical attack on a terrified 11-year-old just because he doesn’t like the kid’s father, then mock his pain and his weight problem. Later he mocks Draco in front of the class over the ferret incident, and salivates over the prospect of setting his boarhound on an elderly cat, feeds Buckbeak on piles of pets and uses “Muggle” and “Squib” as slurs. False Moody batters Draco repeatedly against a stone floor as he screams in pain - and evidently this is the kind of thing Real Moody would do, since it rings no alarm bells. McGonagall isn’t concerned about the beating, only the Transfiguration, and allows him to drag Draco away without even checking for broken bones or internal bleeding first. She drags students around by the ear. Her backstory states that she is prejudiced against Slytherins. She does nothing to help Neville with his memory problems, although she is his Head of House and although she admits feeling guilty about how badly she treated Peter while pampering his friends, instead, she calls Neville “abysmally stupid”, punishes him with weeks of deliberate humiliation, and tells him in front of the whole class not to let the other schools see how useless at magic he is. Prior to the Sectumsempra incident, which was kind of special, that we get to see, she gives out three times as many detentions as Snape does and he gives five detentions to Gryffindors and three to Slytherins, which hardly suggests extreme bias. Even Flitwick calls a student “a baboon brandishing a stick”, and nearly all the staff, except Snape, routinely put students in danger. But all the silly little antiSnape folks are only concerned with the fact that Snape was a bit rude and overbearing, and made a couple of obviously empty threats. You're misrepresentng the events, they didn't notice Peter because they thought he was pathetic, it couldn't cross their mind that he could such a thing. Sirius said as much in POA. In Sirius' own words: ‘Lily and James only made you Secret-Keeper because I suggested it... I thought it was the perfect plan... Voldemort would be sure to come after me, would never dream they'd use a weak, talentless thing like you... It must have been the finest moment of your miserable life, telling Voldemort you could hand him the Potters.’ Sirius never thought Peter was capable of betraying the Order. To return to the harshness above I feel like Sirius always underestimated Wormtail in almost every sense. It isn’t a stretch to believe that Sirius thought Pettigrew lacked the nerve and cunning necessary to play spy and traitor. Snape's no Saint and I probably wouldn't like him but just like Harry I'd deeply respect him as a man compared to a lot of characters in the story as he genuinely changed his ways, put his life on the line and got nothing for it.
@@jameswitt108 I don’t mean to be rude, but this comment is very long and there’s nothing you convince me that Snape isn’t a rubbish person since I’ve already read the books. He develops, okay. But he still bullies children, which is worse since he’s a grown man. Even after his development he’s still not a good person either so none of that matters in this conversation. Whether he admits or not doesn’t matter. The point is he’s still a rubbish person, regardless of everything. I didn’t misinterpret anything, I know Sirius suggested it because he thought Peter was pathetic. I was even going to write that, but that’s Sirius. It’s still canon that James is too trusting, that isn’t misinterpreting. Remus says so, both things can be true because James and Sirius are different people.
It wasn't Ron who won- it was his Father. And barty crouch jr wasn't Voladmort most powerful but one that was loyal that he could easily get to without raising suspicion.
Its ironic that the magical hand turned on Pettigrew for not killing Harry when Voldemort would've punished Pettigrew beyond belief had he actually finished Harry off and deprived the dark Lord of the opportunity to do it himself
Idk I think it was pretty brave to betray his friends and go over to the dark side knowing he did it out of fear and what would happen to him if he gets caught. Then after being in hiding it was pretty brave of him to search out Voldemort and help bring him back to power.
@212caboose I'm not defending Wormtail he was indeed a terrible person for what he did. If he got caught going to the dark side he would have been in some serious trouble. If he fucked up too bad Voldemort may just decide to kill him. Doing what he did took guts. Being brave means you do things even though you're scared which Wormtail very much did....
Rowling said James and Sirius never really liked Pettigrew and that neither would have let him join their group if not for Remus. Is it any wonder why he turned on them, after they volunteered him to risk his life for them without even asking him if he wanted to do it? James and Sirius were both douchebags. It sucks that Rowling did her best to glorify a couple of sadistic bullies.
He became a traitor cause he was a chicken and afraid of the dark lord he didn’t want to die. Many people say they could never sell there friends out but if your faced with immediate death or telling someone where your friends are I bet 90 percent of you tough guys would spill the beans immediately. In like .5 seconds. There in Godricks hollow. Phew that was close sorry Jimmy lils gotta live my best life. I saw the toughest guy break down when faced with 10 years in Azkaban. That’s 10 years. Death is permanent. Plus Peter petigrew was still a virgin. Would you wanna die a virgin????
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incorrect about the sorting.
the hat places students based upon the qualities the student PRIZES...not the qualities the student POSSESSES. It is our CHOICES that determine who we are...far more than our abilities.
Pettigrew was a coward, but he valued those who were brave. we sought solice and protection by surrounding himself with people he saw were stronger and braver then he. For a time...this meant james potter and the maurders....until he sought to be protected by a wizard he felt even more powerful...voldemort.
Voldemort just liked having him around so he wouldn’t be the ugliest one in the group
A very Good Video 👍🏻
he was truly a rat
Though they're gross and spread disease, rats are intelligent, as well as being affectionate and loyal among those they care about. (Mostly other rats). Quit disparaging rats.
@@AustynSN"A rat" can also refer to someone who tells on someone who trusted them not to.
In spite of his rage, he is still just a rat in a cage, haha.
I can even see him singing like that bloke in smashing pumpkings, his voice is so bloody bad.
Bella L
He is every negative reason people dislike rats. LOL. He and Umbridge would make a grand couple.
Bella L
Ugh! They're so repulsive they don't even deserve each other.
I despise Peter Pettigrew way more than Voldemort and Lucius. I hate cowards and deceitful rats more than anything. 😡
I agree he is the worst, but Voldemort got no soul, so like he still should be first. Turned on his own who were truly loyal more than once. So Voldemort, then Peter/Umbridge tie thel Lucy. LOL
Bella L
But Voldemort didn't betray his friends and had a valid excuse to be evil. As he was the child of a love potion and a a non intended marriage. Whereas Peter had a circle of great friends such as James, Lilly, Sirius and Remus. He was the cause of Harry being an orphan. He had no reason to be the evil coward that he became. @@thelestrangelair
@@thelestrangelair Nah. 'Ol Volde never pretended to be good. He only toed the line so he could reach his goals (Not defending him). Pettigrew pretended to be good, when in reality he was weak and a coward. He made a choice to betray his friends. Between the two (Pettigrew and Riddle), Pettigrew is the true villain. Riddle didn't have a choice because he was literally born evil.
Personally I think the people who do evil shit and then hide behind another are worse.
That's also Pettigrew, like Sirius said in the book, he didn't want to hurt Harry because he wanted to make sure Voldemort was the biggest bully on the playground again before trying anything, in case accountability came knocking
He's a big part of my "no mercy " philosophy. If harry wouldn't have had mercy on him it would have been over by the 3rd book.
mercy or rather the choice to not kill is a beautiful thing. murder is not just a wrong thing to do for just taking a life but secondly its a horrible thing to do to another because it robs them of ever bettering themselves. it takes away all options and may doom a soul. kindness is always better than cruelty.
Reread the Lord of The Rings. Bilbo’s mercy towards Gollum resulted in Middle-earth being saved 😮
Peter pettigrew is the worst marauder. He has none of the bravery of Gryffindor and the Arrogance of James, the temper of Sirius, none of the kindness of Remus lupin.
Because an owl did not fly down and eat him while in rat form. I still have not read a fanfic where someone simply does that as a remove peter from the story twist
Before we got the last book I always imagined Pettigrew being eaten by Buckbeak after turning into a rat to try to escape the last battle
The funniest fic with him was on fanfiction and ao, by blaisegellert and I think the title was something like Lord Voldemort's true identity. Those authors usually fix plot holes but that one they just went total lol, it's a Southpark HP crossover and I hurt myself laughing. Said by someone who doesn't like most fanfiction.
Bella L
He was weak. Weak people ALWAYS bring ruin. Give them an iota of power (i.e. when Pettigrew was made Secret Keeper), they WILL use it to their advantage.
Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity regardless of strength 😊
One would think that before sending anyone to Azkaban that the Ministry of Magic would give the accused a truth potion to find out if he was guilty, but apparently it doesn't.
The difference between Peter and Neville is Peter had to deal with James while Neville got to be friends with Harry. It's a lesson in treating everyone equally, even if they may not be as smart/talented/attractive, because they have inherent worth as a human. James was a bully and ultimately it impacted his relationships with people close to him and was a factor in Peter's betrayal. If Harry, Ron and Hermione had treated Neville like that, I think we can imagine Neville walking over to the other side in Deathy Hallows.
Absolute rubbish, there is ZERO evidence that James ever mistreated Peter. You are just making stuff up because you hate James and you like to blame him for everything.
I despise Peter Pettigrew, but he got what he deserved in the end.
What happen to him ? Lol
Pettigrew is the morally worst wizard in all of HP
@@XxclickklackXx he died by asphyxiation when the hand that Voldemort gifted him had a mind of its own.
Wow the hand he was blessed with ws cursed against him , the irony lol
The magical hand Voldemort gave him after he sacrificed his own arm to essentially resurrect Voldemort(though he technically didn’t die as such) had a curse built into it that if Wormtail ever thought of disobeying Voldemort, the hand would turn on him and choke him to death. The reason the hand turned on him was because at Malfoy Manor when Harry and the others were imprisoned in the basement awaiting their fate, Wormtail was under orders to dispose of them(apart from Harry who was to be handed to Voldemort)but Harry stopped him by reminding him that he owed Harry a life debt from when Harry refused to let Sirius and Remus kill Wormtail. Wormtail hesitated for a second and that was enough for the hand to turn on him, Harry, Ron and Hermionie tried everything to save him but couldn’t and as such Wormtail was strangled to death by his own hand.
honestly i have mixed feelings on one hand i despise him because he's truly is a lot of things a traitor, a villain, a murderer, and a coward but on the other hand i pity him because he felt/feels like a wasted character kinda like how/what the dursley's feel like to me
He died. It's in the book. Fenrir Greyback is a werewolf, not a wizard.
A wizard can *become* a werewolf, that doesn't make them stop being a wizard.
Only wizards and witches can become werewolf’s, if a muggle would get infected by the curse they would die in 100% of the cases.
Retired now. I've never read the books, I've watched the movies a couple times over and yours is one of the few detailed CZcams's on Harry Potter I've watched. One thing is fairly obvious, all of the evil and villainous characters consistently got picked on, belittled, marginalized and bullied by the heroes then their kids had to clean up the wreckage!
Forgive me I'm new to 'canon' but is that truly what the story is about, the bullied becoming bullies, and then having to be defeated?
odd i was thinking about him today. good video.
The only inaccurate part of this video is that Peter was weak....he was actually a decent wizard and quite capable in dueling.
Pettigrew was weak- as a person. His magical skill isn't in question.
Traitors always deserve the worst ends. (Exception: If one betrays the devil or the Dark Lord, as Snape did, then they deserve a glorious reward.)
Sirius was the original secret keeper. Stop spreading misinformation
I really hope they show all this in the harry potter tv show
he lacked the defining characteristic's for all houses I guess the hat saw more potential to become a Gryffindor than the others but I am sure it was touch and go
Peter Pettigrew is the living proof that your house doesn't define who you are.
Not all Gryffindors are brave just like not all Slytherins are a*shats.
Moral of the story - don't humiliate people at School; they'll get revenge and fuck everything up.
No- weak people do that. Normal people use being bullied as fuel to become better.
I’m positive perttigrew was actually very attractive and charming. Maybe not so much after being a rat for 12 years, but still cleaned up well even after that. Change my mind
Peter is an example of being brave enough. To stick the knife to those around you. That was where his bravery was.
I guess you could say… Peter, grew petty
I really don't blame him for betraying his "friends" they treated him like a punching bag and constantly threw him down mentally. Those aren't friends, they are punks. The same thing happened to Sirius when James would torment him when they were in school. Although he didn't betray them due to his love for Lilly, it could have easily turned him as well. In the end Harry one of the only ones who didn't degrade him and actually helped him, did not die by his hands as he stopped himself because of Harry's good actions towards him. If people treated him better he wouldn't have been that way. I can relate to his mental anguish 100%
James never tormented Sirius, nor did Sirius have any special feeling for Lily. James and Sirius were twins in all but blood. They were both arrogant, inconsiderate bullies. Maybe you're thinking of Remus?
ur a troll.its no excuse for his betrayal
@@bluelightning118 They were shite friends. He didn't owe them any loyalty. James and Sirius would have never let him into their group and would have targeted him as well if not for Remus. Then Sirius was all too happy to turn on Remus. They were putting his life at risk by making him the Secret Keeper. And they never bothered to ask him IF he wanted to take the risk. Sirius just volunteered him because he thought Peter was too pathetic to catch anyone's interest. Fook'em both.
@@Spawned-uy8ip he didn’t owe Voldemort any loyalty either.he was to afraid of him to say no and even he himself calls pettegrew out on this fact.he knew the risks if he betrayed his friends that sooner or later they’d kill him for his betrayal.they may have been shit friends in the past but as adults they changed instead of being bullies.still no excuse for his betrayal as I said
@@bluelightning118 No they didn't change. That's the BS Rowling pushes to justify her love of bullies, just because they were Gryffindor, and therefore could do no wrong. Sirius never repented for trying to get Snape killed. Remus was still a coward that was too afraid to go against his thug friends.
Harry was stuck with the Dursleys for over 12 years. What was Sirius' reason for finally breaking out of prison? Was it because he was so worried about his godson? Was it because he was concerned about the rest of his friends? Nope, he saw an ex-friend he wanted to murder. What a wonderful person!
And he wasn't in love with Harry because he loved his godson that much. No, it was because he saw James every time he looked at Harry. he even cussed Harry out for not being more like James. I honestly think he would have become a bit abusive if Harry had gone to live with him. Because he didn't want Harry. No, he wanted his precious James Potter back. He picked fights with Snape at every given opportunity, calling him Snivellus, just as he did in his youth. So much change!!
The 'marauders' are such rubbish people. Even turning on their own friends. Lupin is alright, I think he just felt no one else would've been his friends. Had he and Severus met earlier, perhaps they could've been friends instead.
Sirius, I deeply believe had odd, it's a disorder, google it. He is dreadful and Rowling glorifying bullies is nearly as disappointing as cursed play.
Bella L
I agree that they are but snape is also a rubbish person as well
@@ChanBang-bm9ci The ironic thing is Snape himself would probably agree with your assessment of his character but the self righteous hypocrites that were the Marauders wouldn't have the self awareness to critique themselves which is exactly why they couldn't smell the rat in their midst.
@@jameswitt108 he should agree, because he’s was in a full on hate group and called people slurs and his actions got Lily killed in the first place. Mind you, he didn’t change sides because he thought was Voldemort was doing was bad or anything.
Sirius hates Snape, but he said himself he feels bad and Remus made him feel guilty. They obviously would admit they weren’t great people. But in comparison? It’s not as bad as stuff Snape did, not the fact that Snape bullies children as a 30+ year old man. That’s worse.
They didn’t notice Peter was a traitor because he’s been their friend for 10 years, Peter is is like the Neville of the group, it’s not that they wouldn’t notice because he’s a twat. It’s in fact because he is too in the background to seem like he’d do anything. Would Harry think Neville would betray him? No because Harry thinks the same way as James. Harry doesn’t believe anyone he knows would’ve betrayed him during the 7 potters mission, and Remus points out how he’s just like his dad because James trusted his friends completely. That’s all it is, because James is a dick to people he likes, we know. But he’s extremely loyal to his friends. I think y’all overcomplicate things
@@ChanBang-bm9ci He would agree because he's the only one we actually see go through a massive change in character. He was bigoted against muggleborns as a child due to his childhood and school experiences but at the end of the story he couldn't even stand hearing slurs against them and protected them at great personal risk for no reward. I'm pretty sure culpability for the Potter's demise was down to Pettigrew, Voldemort, Snape and the Marauders failed plans although Snape defected and sought their protection as soon he realized Lily was in danger mind you at this time he had no obligation to help Lily and if he were the kind of person you think he was he'd have gleefully rejoiced in her destruction. The fact that Snape did change sides is more admirable imo than those who never had an incentive to defect to either side, the Marauders never had a reason to join Voldemort just like Lucius never had a reason to join Dumbledore because it wasn't in their interests to do so. The light side was dominant in wizarding society and they were rich and popular whereas Snape had a plethora of reasons to join Voldemort, chiefly societal rejection, seeking power, status and knowledge none of which the light side offered him and yet he turned away from this when it mattered. There's no evidence Sirius feels bad about his treatment of Snape and he continues to disrespect him even as an Order member and Remus is a classic case of the bystander effect from his schooling days, consider that Snape brewed him wolfsbane potion and taught his classes when he was incapacitated and Remus still resorted to childish pranks reminiscent of the Marauder era so he's no better. You say they would admit to not being great people but that just isn't in their character, they've not shown an ounce of self awareness so much so they couldn't see that one of their mates was disaffected to the point that he betrayed them, Sirius and James thought so little of Remus and were bigoted against him as a werewolf to the point that they assumed he was the traitor and arrogantly changed the password keeper to their own detriment. We haven't even talked about Sirius's betrayal of Remus by sending Snape to see him at the whomping willow as a werewolf, he basically treated a person who was supposed to be his friend as a pit bull for a prank.
With regards to teachers please note that Harry Potter depicts english teachers of the time in an exhagerated manner as according to Filch, it’s not long ago that students were punished with days-long sessions of extreme physical punishment, and we see the Ministry authorise him to whip the students. Arthur Weasley, who was at school during the 1960s, was punished for canoodling with Molly in some way so severe that he was physically scarred for life.
Molly is held up as the ideal mother, yet she beats Fred with a broom handle and publicly humiliates her kids with Howlers.
Hagrid is held up as this lovely sweet guy, yet we see him carry out a vicious, painful and potentially lethal magical attack on a terrified 11-year-old just because he doesn’t like the kid’s father, then mock his pain and his weight problem. Later he mocks Draco in front of the class over the ferret incident, and salivates over the prospect of setting his boarhound on an elderly cat, feeds Buckbeak on piles of pets and uses “Muggle” and “Squib” as slurs.
False Moody batters Draco repeatedly against a stone floor as he screams in pain - and evidently this is the kind of thing Real Moody would do, since it rings no alarm bells. McGonagall isn’t concerned about the beating, only the Transfiguration, and allows him to drag Draco away without even checking for broken bones or internal bleeding first. She drags students around by the ear. Her backstory states that she is prejudiced against Slytherins. She does nothing to help Neville with his memory problems, although she is his Head of House and although she admits feeling guilty about how badly she treated Peter while pampering his friends, instead, she calls Neville “abysmally stupid”, punishes him with weeks of deliberate humiliation, and tells him in front of the whole class not to let the other schools see how useless at magic he is. Prior to the Sectumsempra incident, which was kind of special, that we get to see, she gives out three times as many detentions as Snape does and he gives five detentions to Gryffindors and three to Slytherins, which hardly suggests extreme bias.
Even Flitwick calls a student “a baboon brandishing a stick”, and nearly all the staff, except Snape, routinely put students in danger. But all the silly little antiSnape folks are only concerned with the fact that Snape was a bit rude and overbearing, and made a couple of obviously empty threats.
You're misrepresentng the events, they didn't notice Peter because they thought he was pathetic, it couldn't cross their mind that he could such a thing. Sirius said as much in POA.
In Sirius' own words:
‘Lily and James only made you Secret-Keeper because I suggested it... I thought it was the perfect plan... Voldemort would be sure to come after me, would never dream they'd use a weak, talentless thing like you... It must have been the finest moment of your miserable life, telling Voldemort you could hand him the Potters.’
Sirius never thought Peter was capable of betraying the Order. To return to the harshness above I feel like Sirius always underestimated Wormtail in almost every sense. It isn’t a stretch to believe that Sirius thought Pettigrew lacked the nerve and cunning necessary to play spy and traitor.
Snape's no Saint and I probably wouldn't like him but just like Harry I'd deeply respect him as a man compared to a lot of characters in the story as he genuinely changed his ways, put his life on the line and got nothing for it.
@@jameswitt108 I don’t mean to be rude, but this comment is very long and there’s nothing you convince me that Snape isn’t a rubbish person since I’ve already read the books. He develops, okay. But he still bullies children, which is worse since he’s a grown man. Even after his development he’s still not a good person either so none of that matters in this conversation. Whether he admits or not doesn’t matter. The point is he’s still a rubbish person, regardless of everything.
I didn’t misinterpret anything, I know Sirius suggested it because he thought Peter was pathetic. I was even going to write that, but that’s Sirius. It’s still canon that James is too trusting, that isn’t misinterpreting. Remus says so, both things can be true because James and Sirius are different people.
I do not even use name of that traitor rat. It doesn't deserve name. To me there is only three Marauders.
"Turned to the dark side2 dARTH wORMTAIL 😂
I think they should make individual movies on Snape Dumbledore and hadrick
Every time I hear the name Peter Pettigrew, my mind pictures a humanoid rat, in the flesh.
Nice channel
It wasn't Ron who won- it was his Father. And barty crouch jr wasn't Voladmort most powerful but one that was loyal that he could easily get to without raising suspicion.
Its ironic that the magical hand turned on Pettigrew for not killing Harry when Voldemort would've punished Pettigrew beyond belief had he actually finished Harry off and deprived the dark Lord of the opportunity to do it himself
Most rats Only Live 2 to 5 years what was the family thinking
Idk I think it was pretty brave to betray his friends and go over to the dark side knowing he did it out of fear and what would happen to him if he gets caught. Then after being in hiding it was pretty brave of him to search out Voldemort and help bring him back to power.
Yeah his support to Voldemort is immerse..
That is brilliant! Yes, one can indeed be brave and not at all good or likable.
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You're actually defending weakness and cowardice. SMH.
@212caboose I'm not defending Wormtail he was indeed a terrible person for what he did. If he got caught going to the dark side he would have been in some serious trouble. If he fucked up too bad Voldemort may just decide to kill him. Doing what he did took guts. Being brave means you do things even though you're scared which Wormtail very much did....
And he got sorted into Gryffindor .. sorting hat must’ve been high that day. He had NONE of the traits of that house
Peter did have a heart because he felt bad about betraying James and Lily
Did he?
I feel he’s more a worm 🐛 than rat 🐀 always able to wriggle out of tough situations & survive
He may of been a traitor but he redeemed himself but not killing Harry and didn’t he not wanna do it but he was just scared
He never redeemed himself. Doing something out of fear isn't redemtion.
I'll explain it for you in a single word:
Cowardice
Rowling said James and Sirius never really liked Pettigrew and that neither would have let him join their group if not for Remus. Is it any wonder why he turned on them, after they volunteered him to risk his life for them without even asking him if he wanted to do it?
James and Sirius were both douchebags. It sucks that Rowling did her best to glorify a couple of sadistic bullies.
He became a traitor cause he was a chicken and afraid of the dark lord he didn’t want to die. Many people say they could never sell there friends out but if your faced with immediate death or telling someone where your friends are I bet 90 percent of you tough guys would spill the beans immediately. In like .5 seconds. There in Godricks hollow. Phew that was close sorry Jimmy lils gotta live my best life. I saw the toughest guy break down when faced with 10 years in Azkaban. That’s 10 years. Death is permanent. Plus Peter petigrew was still a virgin. Would you wanna die a virgin????
American non-magical people are nomags not muggles gtfoi. Different countries have different slang
What do Cosa Nostra do with them rats?? 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀