Discovered! WORLD'S FIRST ICE CREAM RECIPE from 1668! | Ep 16
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what I love is Julie's reverence for the diaries and other items from so long ago. The Earl is like, oh this is just something from our library. We Americans think something 200 years old is ancient and the Brits think it is simply retro.
I am so glad you brought your husband out from behind the camera. He has such a dry wit, he keeps me laughing. You both are great together. Your show reminds of some old British comedy shows I used to watch here in the states. You two bounce off each other beautifully. Keep up the good work.
Yes, they have chemistry.
Thank you!
I agree! You guys are delightful and have a great banter!
@@MappertonLive Would it be possible to get these journals photographed/scanned for preservation and publication? I would love to read these documents from the period.
@@MappertonLive I love having your husband on the videos! I’m from Virginia (named for Elizabeth I, “the virgin Queen”) in the States. My DNA 🧬 is a full half English from the time of 1066. But, I digress 🙃. All of that to say I love your husband’s accent, and dry wit! You are wonderful on your own, Julie🥰. But, it’s more fun to hear your Midwest USA 🇺🇸 banter with his amazing proper British accent😍. I could listen to that accent all day, even reading 📖 the Oxford dictionary 🥰. Julie, your accent saying the word “literally “ is almost there! That is such a delicious word spoken in a proper British accent. “….quite literally” 💗.
Loving all of this. The Earl of Sandwich is a darling man!
We should all take a lesson from the Earl as he’s trying the ice cream. A tempered yet honest assessment finished with what almost sounds like a compliment “it will certainly go well with a biscuit”. Lovely gentleman.
Wikepedia reports that the Italians invented chocolate ice cream in 1698 but obviously this is one of those times that Wikipedia needs to be updated.
It always cracks me up to see how you two interact when you really get going, it's a wonder you know what the other is saying but then you repeat what the other said... often. lol The Earl is such a sweetheart!
I don’t think you put the chocolate IN the salt ice, I think you put the CARAFE containing the chocolate into the salt ice to make it very cold. Genuine bush freezer technique
But the chocolate would need some kind of liquid in with it. Chocolate was originally a savoury rather than sweet drink.
I thought the same thing.
I've only just discovered this video. I think 'prepare ye chocolatee' means to prepare the chocolate as one would a chocolate drink (i.e., using cocoa, milk, cinnamon and sugar/honey) - the first chocolate houses in London dating from the 1650s. Then, as Ms Hobbs says, the container of liquid chocolate is placed in a 'freezing mixture' of ice, salt and a little water (this will cool to well below freezing point; depending on the proportion of salt used it can reach as low as -20 celcius). By stirring the liquid chocolate while its container is thereby 'super-cooled', it will eventually start to freeze into 'tender curled ice' (i.e., ice cream), as described. Hence, the frozen chocolate would have been a cold, solid version of the delicious Spanish chocolate drink also described, rather than the weak 'granola' prepared here!
@@williamevans9426 I was about to write just that. =)
@@pirkitta407 "Great minds think alike", as the saying goes!
Awww man! How incredible! This is incredible! I know the British are very firm and strong about their privacy. But I am so glad the Earl of Sandwich is so open to sharing. I mean don’t keep this to yourself. I enjoy history. I didn’t even know the Earl of Sandwich was actually the pioneer of sandwiches. Now you’re saying they are the pioneers of chocolate ice cream in the 15th century? Amazing! Really. Truly.
I’m in love with that library to be honest. Just that library itself can have its own stand alone CZcams Channel. This channel has many great episodes. But this one is really up there.
I believe the Jamaican pepper in this recipe, since it was said to be a Spanish recipe would be a pinch of Cayenne. My family is of Spanish/Mexican Ancestry and have used Cayenne in Hot Cocoa for generations. Hot Chocolate I believe was a Mayan creation.
Ambergris was used as a flavoring agent in the 17th and 18th centuries, as well as an ingredient in perfume, so that's probably what your recipe called for as "amber". The Jamaica pepper is now called allspice.
Isn't ambergris = harvested from sperm whale digestion, used in perfumes...
Jamaica Pepper refers to what we now call "All Spice" (though black pepper in the hot chocolate was probably also good!). I loved this episode, really fun!
Yes! I was raised on the gulf coast in the US, and the words were interchangeable. Also, because Texas, chili pepper in a very deep chocolate is delicious.
When I made Mexican hot chocolate for my daughter. I used cayenne pepper and it was so good. has anyone had it?
A Jamaican follower here. Allspice in Jamaica is also called Pimento, it stems from the dried berries of the Pimenta dioica, a relative of the clove and native to the West Indies and Central America. It got its name - Allspice - during the 17th century when the berries where imported into Europe and its tastes were said to be rather like a combination of cloves, cinnamon and nutmeg. It is used in almost every Jamaican dish, including our famous Jerk sauce - even used in our Easter Buns and Christmas cakes.
Intriguing recipe, 🤔although I'm not sure about the 'snow' - it could be that the cold of the snow was used, along with rock salt, in an outer bowl to keep cream at the ideal temperature as it was 'churned'.
@@Tracy_R Hello Tracy. I have indeed tried chocolate with a pinch of chilli/cayenne pepper. I came across this method in Spain where my sister lived and then during travels in South America, Chile, Peru and Brazil. Quite delicious with a 'zing', very heartwarming 🤩😁🇯🇲
@@surquhart64 my daughter said they talked about it for a long time. I was so pleased that I had a hit for the teenagers. She still mentions it from time to time. Thank you for sharing. ;0)
That old diary drawing was it for me🤍
I am in debt to the 1st Earl of Sandwich because chocolate ice cream is one of the BEST freaking things EVER!!! I’d venture to say that the invention of chocolate ice cream is more important than the invention of the sandwich.
your father in law is the sweetest man. he is so adorable, kind and fun! what a family!
Might the 1st Earl have intended the chocolate to have been the hot chocolate, cooled then added to the ice with a bit of salt and then shaken.
They are missing ingredients. You have to grind the chocolate a lot longer than that. Plud sugar and milk.
Julie and Luke are hysterically funny!
i love lucy vibes
Thank you!
They are such a fun couple
You should do a regular of old recipes they would cook on the estate. Surely the old cooks left recipes behind.
Another great video. History of chocolate is fascinating, I work in a museum devoted to the history of the Iberian Peninsula and the Hispanic world. In the museum we have a good number of manuscripts and objects related to the trade and consumption of chocolate.
Regarding the questions about "amber" , yes they refered to the fossilized resin; "considered an aphrodisiac in Arabic medicine and used as an additive in European recipes such as hot chocolate"
I wonder which kind of objects and the books the Earl of Sandwich brought back to England from Spain.
I was thinking "amber" referred to honey
As a book and archive conservator I watch in delight such an amazing library being treated so well, preserved but also used and appreciated by the family and not only. (I especially liked the use of a book cushion!)
They must have put the mixer with the cocoa, sugar and spices, milk. and then place the shaker inside the ice adding the salt to the ice to keep it cold and then turn the mixer for several minutes so that the mixture begins to form ice and this becomes the ice cream, confirm it is turning.
This technique in Mexico is called “nieve de garrafa”
Chocolate was said to be an aphrodisiac, a stimulant. Food of the Gods.
I love the Earl - what a Classic!! You should make your own Hot Cocoa and sell it here online for profits to Mapperton!!
What a charming family, especially the Earl! Thank you for all you do, Julie!
Thank you!
As someone whose family history is involved in the whaling industry in Massachusetts, I can tell you exactly what "amber" is (and it isn't an old plant based milk alternative 😂). Sperm whales are the producers of the substance. The whales subsist on enormous quantities of squid, and an occasional unlucky animal (perhaps one in one hundred) gets squid beaks caught in its gut. As the mass grows, the animal secretes a fluid around it, transforming it into ambergris (or amber, as it was commonly called).
You should definitely sell the hot chocolate in your cafe! I started making mine like this years ago after researching hot chocolate at Versailles and I will NEVER go back! It is delicious and cacao has many health benefits. This was a very fun episode, thank you for it! ☕️
More than “ice cream” it seems to be like a chocolate granita?? That’s how it’s made in Italy (Sicily) and probably Spain too?? Originally from the Arab countries. The hot chocolate sounds delicious!! The Spanish brought it back from Mexico where they used cayenne pepper instead of black pepper, so it was rather spicy! I’m going to try using your recipe for the hot chocolate with “peperoncino” in place of pepper 😉😋
Yes, we think you are right? Possible granita!
@@MappertonLive
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Spanish Sicily (1409-1713) was a viceroyalty of the Kingdom of Castile and the Spanish Empire.
Regular homemade ice cream, the ice and salt are in the bigger container surrounding the inner container to chill the ice cream ingredients quickly. Salt makes the ice colder because it melts a bit. You don't mix the ice and salt with the ice cream ingredients. Just my guess. If you took the same mixture for hot chocolate using cream and sugar, that might work. Cheers.
Found "codd" in online article of Old English. Codd means bag, so you are truly on your own when attempting to interpret old measurements, not having a reference point. You did well! Keep experimenting, it is the heart of every delicious recipe.
Having a copy of the original recipe framed in the cafe and sell hot chocolate in the cafe is a wonderful idea, please do.
Please do more of these recipes Julie and Luke. Love watching the two of you in the kitchen together.
Thank you! Will do!
Here in Virginia, when I was a kid, a looong time ago...we made ice cream out of snow. We used some milk, sugar, vanilla, or chocolate syrup. It was quite good! But the 1668 recipe is missing some basic ingredients, milk and sugar. How on earth did he find snow in July? Maybe he made the ice cream in the winter and wrote the recipe in July?? All I have to say about snow ice cream is, watch out for the yellow snow..😉
Love your shows!! You make me proud for being an American in England and embracing your new family and customs instead of being like another American who did not represent us well.
It’s wonderful that you get that multi-generational experience. Treasure it! ❤️
This is wonderful; the Earl of Sandwich is such a nice old gentleman, Love the reaction of the ice cream, then the chocolate drink.
I love this! Your father in law is so delightful. And your husband has a wonderfully dry sense of humor. Such a beautiful family with an amazing history.
I am honored to meet, even virtually, the ancestor of the creator of the sandwich! Amazing 😁
I knew where to he sandwich was created. Always heard the Earl discovered it while playing cards. I however never knew his ancestor also came up with my absolute favorite ice cream 😍🥰❤️. So awesome of a video today. Love watching you all interact and enjoying life. Thank you for sharing with us a part of your family and home.
Can I add I think when The Earl read the Original Recipe it stated 1. Make the Chocolatey i would assume with mylk and sugar and the 2. Rock Salt goes in ice. 3.then you need an additional container to chill an stir for a long tyme in snow bucket (caraffa )with Vessel and Jamaica Pepper is Allspice and Amber is possibly Ale we all know they were typsy all day long back in the 1600's. In Arizona around the Valley of the Sun we have Frozen Hot Chocolate for those 90* f 32* c November days!
The "Earl of Sandwich,"
Is Such a Dear, Sweet Man.‼️
Best Wishes from Me &. Mine,
In 🇦🇺Australia.🐨
Super lovely of your family to do this together! “Lacking in body..” 😂 Delightful.
Your Father in Law is delightful !!! Love him to pieces !!!
I wasn’t too sure about the chocolate ice cream but the hot chocolate sounded delicious. How did the ice cream taste, Julie? From your father-in-law’s face I’m thinking a bit bitter? But, at least you tried! Thank you! 🌸🌸
It did get a bit stuck in her teeth and mouth!
Amber is amberia, or ambegis or amberjack. I just tried this recipe and I loved it.
You are realy doing a wonderful job with your herritage with love, genuine concern and respect! In addition to the great historical and cultural informations you share with us, we have the pleasure of seeing an amazing couple and a wonderful extended family. Good luck, health and prosperity to you all. I wish the new heat wave starting tomorrow in the UK., (13/8/2022), be as painless as possible for your country. I greet you for now, as I have get ready to go swimming in the sea , it's 38 C here . Υour Athenian friend, a lover of history and culture.
Lukes father in law is so knowledgeable he and his wife are so charming also their talks teach us so much
Amber (from the Arabic word عَنْبَر ['anbar]) is what is now known as ambergris. It was used to flavor Turkish coffee and, in 18th century Europe, hot chocolate.
How about a sandwich recipe?
Love your dad, he's gorgeous. Beautiful history. The codd I looked it up because I was interested, is an old bottle, the codd of vanilla is the vanilla bottle.
Codd is old English for a small pocket or pod. It's also etymologically the same word as a cod(d) piece.
Viscountess you crack me up! You talk over your husband like I do mine!! It’s an excitement and ADHD thing for me! 🤣🤣 You two are jusy so cute together. I love this episode! Lots of love sent your way!
Wow I have been making snow ice-cream for over 40+ years! I taught my children. We had wonderful clean snow drifts. Thanks for sharing. Try snow and add a little rose syrup!
Oh my goodness that is the same Ice Cream my grandmother made once when I was at their house! I have told people about it, and it was the first fallen snow and she asked Grandpa to get the snow and she made Ice Cream! I was not sure how she did it and know one knew what on earth I spoke about? They ignored what I said. Now I will know just how this works and somehow would love to try it too. Thank you, Thank you, and thank you again!
My mom made us snow ice cream with vanilla with the fresh, clean snow when I was very little. I don't know how exactly, but it seems like it was creamy.
@@audreyvann5336 I remember it being very good as well, but do not know either just how it was done. I do remember seeing a recipe in one of grandma's cookbooks though and she did use an ice cream machine of some older type, and I do not have one. I suppose you do not have to have it as we now can crush things and have blenders etc. ? Ther may well be recipes online of course too? I probably woould not try it. We just had our first substantial snowfall today of 12 inches! Maybe had been the right time?! lol
I died when she shrieked, when the food processor started off camera. 😂
The snow and salt is to cool the ice cream. Not to mix with it. I am sure someone must have said this already
Exactly!!!!!!
Have they never made ice cream ever? The drink recipe can be cooled by the ice in the bowl with the salt to reduce temperature (not put in the recipe!) Maybe they could ask the servants how to do it.
I was expecting to see a comment like this.
Jamaican pepper is, as I know, all spices . Hence a mild flavour 👆👆, guess black pepper would be a new creation.
My cousin has a chocolate company and they have an African pink peppercorn dark chocolate. It's delicious 😝
We do all Love the Earl of Sandwich !
The Earl of Sandwich is such a treasure. His knowledge of history is incredible and he has a delightful way of telling it in story form. I am definitely going to make the hot chocolate, however I will probably substitute a chili or cayenne pepper. Thank you for another enjoyable video!
Our pleasure!
Hi,
My name is Susel and I am from Mexico. It is wonderful that your family has that recipe. In our history, the Aztecs use the snow from the volcano Popocatepetl to make xocolati cepayalli. Is like chocolate sherbet. In Mexico we cal icecream, helado because is cream base and sherbets we call them nieve that is the Spanish word for snow in nahuat is cepayahuitl. Cepayalli is flavor snow. I have tested the ice and cocoa powder but did not care much about it. But I do care for paradox! Xoco in Nahuatl means hot. The word xocolati means bitter hot juice. Therefore you have bitter-hot-snow-juice. Maybe that is why the doctor recommended it to drink the Mexican chocolate drink recipe. (That is the mestizos' recipe, not the Aztec because the latter didn't have sugar)
I believe that the first icecream was made in the 1530s at a Medici wedding but thank those brave men from the Era of Discovery is that we have chocolate icecream. your ancestor was a brave man, for many years Europeans would not taste many of the foods from the Americas. Bringing Europe the cacao from Mexico and the sugar cane from New Guinea we would not have all the wonderful variety of foods. Your ancestor, the first earl of Sandwich was brave because if the Spanish had made and eat that chocolate sherbet I believe that by the time the earl of Sandwich had made it doctors would have been aware that it was not poisonous. From the time Hernan Cortez arrived in the 1500s to your ancestor it elapsed 200 years. I am pretty sure doctors would have noticed that the chocolate sherbet was good. But it took a brave and kind heart to make it to Europe. I do say he was kind-hearted because there were many prejudices in Europe and in Spain towards the Americas in those times. And he, the first earl, had to show the Spanish monarchy to make the xocolati cepayalli. (James 2:18)
I am thankful to you and your family for kindly sharing this story and also to the Spanish Royal house for giving you part of your history. Now thanks to the brave men of the age of discovery and exploration we can enjoy a 😏 bitter-"sweet"-hot-snow-juice. I hope your family has many blessings and prosperity from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Sincerely yours
Mrs. Susel Lee de Arellano
Reference in English about sherbet: govbooktalk.gpo.gov/tag/aztec-ice-cream/
You and your husband are fun to watch! So fun to see the old recipes! Amazing journal!
I'm sure for it's time the ice cream was a real treat. I love your idea to introduce the hot chocolate at your shop and frame the recipe!! Thanks for sharing 🙂
I would love to spend the day perusing that library. Heaven
American ingenuity...Julie is a FORCE OF NATURE.
Yes ma'am she is a force of nature!
Your videos are utterly charming! Unrehearsed, totally natural, I love your family!
Love watching the Earl! Added treat, hope he can be in many with you!
Love these family videos! The Earl and Luke both have quite dry wit...love it!
Julie's father-in-law and husband are exhausted trying to put a word in. No chocolate ice cream for Julie! LOL 😆 🍫 🍨
Julie, we love you, but let them speak! 🤗
That’s us Americans 🇺🇸 for you
Ice cream maker with a core you place in freezer for modern adaptation of the old recipe. Traditional hand crank machine require rock salt and ice to surround the mixture. Apothecary measure gr is grains.
Thank you, that means a lot.
This episodes had me smiling so much my face hurts. Whoever decided on this as an episode (Julie, perhaps?) is brilliant! You all are such lovely people, I want you as friends!
I have enjoyed this so much! You and your husband could do a comedy act! Too funny!
Beautiful illustration and handwriting in the recipe book.
By practice of Thomas Jefferson at Monticello in the 1700s and 1800s they used to collect snow and store it in a circular underground space in order to have ice in the warmer times. It also helped increase the amount of water they had at Monticello because being at the top of a hill there was no natural mechanism to capture ground water. In archaeological digs, dry wells have been explored to recover what was used to fill them during Jefferson's time. I do not know if it was the purpose but these dry wells would be used to keep food cool.
The Earl and the Countess need to be on more! Like I said, I live in Barnstable, Massachusetts, right next to Sandwich, Massachusetts. Sandwich is the oldest town on the Cape.
Thank you for sharing your amazing channels, Family life, history, so amazing to watch, and learn.
Considering the family history, it seems like you should have put the chocolate ice cream between 2 biscuits and create an Ice Cream Sandwich.
Codd is a word from Old English meaning pouch or bag, today it can very easily translate to pod. This is one of several meanings for this word.
Are the journals archived Julie? They are treasures and it would be such a gift for humanity to have them scanned.
What fun! You and Luke are so adorable together, and your father-in-law is just delightful.
I’m going to try the hot chocolate recipe, but will leave the ice cream one to y’all.
I love that your videos educate but also make me laugh. You and your husband crack me up.
I'm told that after icecream became a "thing, lol, a trend", in UK & Europe, that there were special ice houses built, underground where they would collect and store snow & ice... say off top of a pond or lake, etc to use in summer. Of course, electricity stopped the saving of ice from ponds.
I love your Dad. The ice cream was so funny!! Thank you for this video. ❤️
Julie, I won a scholarship to Ohio State for my book antiquities collection you won't hurt the books unless extremely careless. Ohio States actually lets students, faculty and alumni use their extensive rare books library. I have handled a rare first folio of Shakespeare valued at more than $2 million dollars and a first edition Macbeth - wash your hands, be gentle and don't spill tea and you will be fine. I notice on the table that the Earl is not even afraid of photocopying which says a lot. The Earl seemed to enjoy sharing the journal with you and could be a great way for the two of you to bond further.
Such a lovely family
In Mexico where chocolate originates, you drink it hot with some kinda chili pepper and that makes it extra tasty!
They actually kept snow and blocks of ice in underground chambers in Europe and it lasted till summer and later. Also shaved ice could equal “snow”
Yes indeed, all great houses in England had an ice house that was situated some distance away from the main house, it’s incredible how it lasted so long.
A Codd is indeed a seed pod, or legume pod! Amber can mean a liquid measure, but the fact that it says "or amber" I'm not too sure about!
Nowadays “garrafa” ins spanish is a big volume plastic or glass bottle (like 2-5 liters capacity) but, at that time, I think they were made of wood. So nice to have that piece of history in the family 😊
I love infusing the past with the present as you have done here with a three hundred year old recipe.
Love the family English/American dynamics and fun personalities that are making this channel work! Your father-in-law is adorable! Looking forward to more posts from this channel. Marilyn, Connecticut, USA
Thank you so much!
Wear cotton gloves when you handle the old books. Your fingers have tiny amounts of acidic material that transfer on to the pages and can cause deterioration.
You are so fortunate to have access to such a library. 💕💕💕💕
Very interesting episode, chocolate became really popular in the spanish court from the XVI century...from there it expanded to the rest of Europe...they managed to keep snow during the summer in ice pits, in the XVII century the mountains surrounding the Madrid and another royal seats had snow even in summer...now is different due to climate change.
I loved this. Your father in law is a dear heart. I enjoyed his interaction so much.
Loved this episode would love to see more of the father in-law ❤
The salt is essential to changing the melting point and creating the proper texture. Do you have frozen custard ( machines look like concrete machine pourers, but for food safe concrete textures)? The ice cream alternative is huge in the Midwest and you are served the “concretes” upside down. So good.
I just love family comedy hour and papa pre showing of what’s to come. Love it my Montigu English / American family. Too funny. I love the eye reaction from eating that horrible ice no cream treat
Hello Julie and Luke,
I had so much fun watching you guys create the two recipes and then having Luke's dad try them out with you. Some day I will come to Mapperton and enjoy the recipes for myself!
Oh, I absolutely loved this episode. I am really enjoying this channel.
The earl seems like a lovely man
The Earl is such a Gentleman and reminds me so much of my lovely late Father-in-Law- (without the title) loved this xxx
I have been a lifelong baker. Making a basic edible chocolate from scatch involves cacao, some type of sugar, and a fat to buffer the bitterness of the raw cacao's acidity.
I believe if you made a simple sugar syrup and let it cool - and then made "ice snow" by first mixing equal parts of water, the cooled syrup and even some cream to first make the cubes. Pour that into ice cube trys and freeze - then grind the cubes with a pinch of salt, into "snow". Add to the shaker with the cacao and you will have a far less bitter (and now palatable) result....you could also just pulse the cacao into the 'snow ice" to enure it is more evenly distributed and there are no bitter chunks of cacao in any single bite. (Which would be great for expediting "back of house" preparations if you're doing this for your restaurant or a large group.)
You may have to do a few test versions to fine tune the proportions of cacao, to sugar syrup and cream as the acidity of your cacao and fat content of your cream (or use full fat milk and less water) - each play a role.
I suggested the cream as it (or butter) is a common core component of edible chocolate. For this recipe, I believe it's possible they called the ingredient "snow", instead of just ice, because they had added either milk or cream to the cubes to make it white like snow. (The recipe also talked about having "ice curls" which could only happen if there were a fat, such a cream, in the ice.
This was a great video - what a sweet and wonderful family!
Thank you so much for wonderful tips! We shall def. try this - thank you!
@@MappertonLive or just get Ben & Jerry's. Hahaha j/k
You two are just so cute in the kitchen!
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The family is so charming! )
There is a measure for dry goods from the northern part of Spain. It's codo. My understanding is it's a very small amount.
I would expect the vanilla to be a pod and you scrape the pod for the flavour.