Deep Rock Galactic: Season 4 balance changes in detail

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  • čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
  • 0:00 Intro/input buffer
    1:25 Subata rework
    4:18 NCTC
    7:03 Tranq rounds
    7:31 Plasma burster missiles
    8:40 Rocket Barrage
    9:41 Boomstick reload delay
    10:43 Double Barrel
    12:18 Fire boomstick vs frozen enemies
    13:48 Spinning death
    14:29 Snowball
    15:24 Carpet Bomber
    16:26 Neurotoxin Payload
    17:04 Shield Battery Booster
    18:06 TEF bugfix
    19:26 Broadhead bolts bugfix
    19:39 MPA stats screen bugfix, fin
    bgm: "Terran theme 3" from Starcraft, "UNATCO Theme" from Deus Ex, "In the Dark" from DOOM 2, and "Aurora Palace" from Rabi-Ribi.
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Komentáře • 570

  • @LazyMaybe
    @LazyMaybe  Před rokem +87

    As of 6/20, TEF has had its damage boost numbers doubled: czcams.com/video/7HuiHjUKWIs/video.html

    • @texavon6168
      @texavon6168 Před rokem +1

      Is the -50% Cooling rate the SBB Overclock removes stat screen only or dose the gun actually cool slower, if It actually cools slower than normal is that intended or not? Because it's not a listed negative effect other than stat screen.

    • @whateew
      @whateew Před rokem +1

      Do you have a patreon, or a discord, or something ?

    • @LazyMaybe
      @LazyMaybe  Před rokem +8

      @@texavon6168 It does cool slower, yes.

    • @NewCrispyChicken
      @NewCrispyChicken Před rokem +2

      Hi Lazy, great video! I was wondering what mod(s) do you use to get the damage tracking in its own UI element at 12:40?

  • @Pinstar
    @Pinstar Před rokem +1067

    The dry, clinical way you delivered the "SpiderWeakpoint_Tank_Ass" line added to the humor of it. Well said.

    • @ricecooker7037
      @ricecooker7037 Před rokem +22

      I love coffee stain studios dude

    • @clumsygarage1578
      @clumsygarage1578 Před rokem +118

      @@ricecooker7037 hate to be that guy, but Coffee stain are just the publisher. Ghost Ship are the dwarvelopers responsible for that.

    • @manboy4720
      @manboy4720 Před rokem

      has ass been shot?
      true
      then shoot ass

    • @ricecooker7037
      @ricecooker7037 Před rokem +18

      @@clumsygarage1578fair, I should say I love that coffee stain always is a vibe
      Ghost ship is legendary, it shouldn’t really be said when I’m on a niche video about the specific stats about an update that nobody has even talked about really yet.

    • @theone614777
      @theone614777 Před rokem +14

      12:35

  • @BenSi10
    @BenSi10 Před rokem +162

    The best part of this video is finding out that the Praetorian weak point is called "Tank Ass" internally

  • @Metacritical_
    @Metacritical_ Před rokem +1050

    The Best thing about a new season is the guaranteed Upload from you

  • @lordcirrhosisofliver
    @lordcirrhosisofliver Před rokem +632

    the double barrel buff is my favorite part of s4 to be honest, It feels good, and it is distinct from Jumbo shells.

    • @maridomi8303
      @maridomi8303 Před rokem +90

      No joke, seeing a weapon or OC that was bad before ACTUALLY get buffed within a somewhat reasonable amount of time is one of the best feelings ever.

    • @YTInnerAgntAuto
      @YTInnerAgntAuto Před rokem +31

      DB also has an absurd amount of armour break now, since it fires a whopping 22 pellets. It legit just goes BAM! Everything dead!

    • @muramasa870
      @muramasa870 Před rokem +8

      I'm having blast with hurricane's new unstable OC! But can't figure out best loadout and tier upgrades for it!

    • @primalfeline
      @primalfeline Před rokem +10

      I have a build with Double Barrel and Aggressive Venting on Scout to emulate the Doom Slayer so I was really happy seeing Double Barrel get buffed.

    • @maks4285
      @maks4285 Před rokem +14

      The best way I've found to describe Double Barrel's behavior is that it turns your dwarf into a Claymore mine, and the confirmation here that the blast-wave is explosive damage really reinforces that comparison.

  • @Urkikk
    @Urkikk Před rokem +150

    Subata's Neuro-Corrosive Toxic Catalyst with Sludgepump, with Explosive Reload OC, it allowed you to stack explosive through heavy armor when the shot adding Neuro-Corrosive Toxic Catalyst stack.

    • @p_serdiuk
      @p_serdiuk Před rokem +14

      It's a bit redundant because the stacks accelerate the bug's death from DoT, but you want to explode them ASAP to not waste ammo.
      Honestly I haven't yet found a decent build for Explosive Reload that improves upon Automatic Fire, except maybe full accuracy with Blowthrough to use with cryo

    • @Urkikk
      @Urkikk Před rokem +22

      @@p_serdiuk I mean, you can shoot Oppressor from the front and stilling stacking both corrosive and explosive, or phase 3 hiveguard in any direction.
      it just easier to to do without needing to reposition for bigger or tankier armored target.
      tankier enemies mean you can add more stack, and you want it to also die quick, weaker enemies will mostly die to sludgepump before any meaningful impact from Subata.
      It allows me to deal with both group and tanky targets at the same time without being picky at the aimming spot.

    • @itsrainingcats9968
      @itsrainingcats9968 Před rokem +5

      @@p_serdiuk I use it with tranquilizer bullets to turn macteras into a complete non issue but it might be overkill.

    • @funcat3560
      @funcat3560 Před 6 měsíci

      I've recently figured out how good this combo is in elimination missions. I can kite while dumping DoTs. Very fun, but also a lot to think about at once.

    • @Urkikk
      @Urkikk Před 5 měsíci

      Double shot, explosive reload are nice combo with this.
      1 click then reload on a normal glypid on a sludge is all it take and let DOT do the rest before explode.

  • @metalurgent
    @metalurgent Před rokem +305

    This update took pretty much every "this is unusable or outclassed or broken" overclock and turned them into some of my favorites. Plasma burster oc was a pain to use, now its one of the best in the game. double barrel was a broken mess, now its just a better jumbo shells. electrominelets and the pgl's ammo oc problem still need fixed but were on the right track

    • @muramasa870
      @muramasa870 Před rokem +21

      I wish they buffed drak25 oc's or remade some tier upgrades like they did with subata. I considered s3 subata more viable than drak 25 poopy shooter

    • @Chronically_ChiII
      @Chronically_ChiII Před rokem +18

      @@muramasa870 They have nerfed it since it came out.
      Unwarranted, I think.

    • @Simon-xi7lb
      @Simon-xi7lb Před rokem +4

      supercooling chamber on m1k is still useless tho

    • @Chronically_ChiII
      @Chronically_ChiII Před rokem +11

      @@Simon-xi7lb Yeah, its focus shot shouldn't take *that* long with supercooling chamber. The 0% movement speed is already a nerf.
      Or make the T2 faster focus shot mod actually do something significant.
      Also buff active stability system on m1000, on top of that.
      idk. Maybe it would give you movement speed after firing a focus shot, people would actually use it then for fast scouts.

    • @Simon-xi7lb
      @Simon-xi7lb Před rokem +7

      @@Chronically_ChiII well, the other issue is that it nearly halves your ammo for double weak-point focus shot damage, but since it already one-shots grunts with focus shots on haz 4, that extra damage isn't even worth the decreased ammo unless you EXCLUSIVELY shoot dreadnoughts and minibosses... it's an overall massive dps loss per ammo count 99% of the time

  • @atticlion7648
    @atticlion7648 Před rokem +62

    As someone who doesn't keep close tabs on DRG anymore I really appreciate these patch balance roundups man.

  • @PingachuWarham
    @PingachuWarham Před rokem +28

    The new Double Barrel is simply beautiful, and the changes to both the Subata and the Hurricane are awesome too

  • @theoreminegaming
    @theoreminegaming Před rokem +28

    Thermal Exhaust Feedback OC - Increased the damage and heat bonus to compensate for the now properly working scaling
    The very next day, boom. Another suggestion got added. At least one of the GSG team members must be watching your videos, since so many of your suggested changes and bug fixes from videos have been added in S3 and S4 so far.

  • @Loot_Bugs
    @Loot_Bugs Před rokem +128

    Tysm for grinding this out so quickly. Your work is super valuable and very much appreciated, as always.
    I honestly feel bad - at this point, you’re kind of carrying this “in depth testing” stone alone in the DRG community. Would you consider making - not necessarily a tutorial video, but maybe a community post, explaining how you get what you do? Do you look at the code, do you chat with some devs, etc? Ofc you have the damage numbers mod and the spawning room, but it seems like it’s gotten more complex than that

    • @Casino220
      @Casino220 Před rokem +12

      I'd also love CZcams content just going over the methodology and tools used in general and a more specific in depth section at the end of videos like this one tbh

    • @peinin
      @peinin Před rokem +3

      ​​​@@Casino220totally agree, nowadays all videos with analysis only give you data, because it makes videos shorter, which means more people would watch it. Even the scientific video with analysis would skip the showing of how had the data been calculated, because they care more about views than scientific value of their scientific video. It's so sad...

  • @TheSpeep
    @TheSpeep Před rokem +47

    With PB missiles you can now kinda recreate engies Spinning Death for the Breach Cutter.
    You can aim a bunch of shots at a larger enemy and then swap to your secondary to create a sort of whirlwind of plasma bees on them.

  • @mrtspence
    @mrtspence Před rokem +16

    Terran Theme 3 is always a fantastic choice. Great video and really looking forward to getting into some matches with these new changes!

  • @STUPIDGUARDIANS
    @STUPIDGUARDIANS Před rokem +17

    5:59 here's hoping that becomes an actual taunt some day.

    • @Rewdy04
      @Rewdy04 Před rokem

      Because he was born into this world - Eren the Driller

  • @leedsin3043
    @leedsin3043 Před rokem +85

    Thank you as always for uploading one of the most detailed and very informative videos for DRG. We greatly appreciate your content! ROCK AND STONE!

  • @SomeGuyWithAFace9
    @SomeGuyWithAFace9 Před rokem +15

    definitely the most excited about these subata changes, that gun felt really weak compared to the alternatives and i really hate guns where you have to maniacally click the mouse button individually for each shot despite its high firerate, and this solves both of those for me

  • @captainkeyes9913
    @captainkeyes9913 Před rokem +16

    6:20 people may not realize it but having a enemy die and explode from any damage instead of just your and only your damage is a huge win because you wont get blocked out of explosions from team mate or bosco like you would from crispr and collet wave cooker

  • @karmascamera5275
    @karmascamera5275 Před rokem +15

    When using the Subata’s *Chain Hit* OC combined with NCTC, the ricochets also apply the status effect so you can potentially set off Glyphid cluster-bombs!

  • @doug2555
    @doug2555 Před rokem +16

    Loving the subata buffs. Never was a big fan of EPC because its projectile and wave cooker is fun but very dependent on usually what primary you run. Now subata is pretty consitant but can still helps synergize with your primaries

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 Před rokem +4

      Wouldn't say Wave Cooker is that primary dependent. You run exothermic reactor for the CRISPR and the Cryo Cannon, and Contagion Transmitter for the Sludge Pump.

    • @bugjams
      @bugjams Před rokem +2

      I don't like the Tier 5 changes. Now your T5 choice is pigeonholed into your primary choice. It's not fun or good for build diversity. For example, if you're running the Sludge Pump, there's literally no reason to pick anything other than NCC. Flamethrower? No reason not to take Volatile Bullets (although this was always a problem). I'm not a fan of weapon upgrades that rely heavily on you picking another specific gun.
      I'd rather they turn Volatile Bullets and NCC into Overclocks, give the Subata back it's +2 corrosive damage T5, and buff Blowthrough, because blowthrough sucks on the Subata. I mean seriously lol, anyone picking Blowthrough (unless you're running Cryo) is gimping themselves. It's a multi-hit focused upgrade on a class who has the strongest AoE primaries in the game. It's just not worth it. They could buff the blowthrough amount to 3 and give it a +1 damage buff and it would still be an iffy pick.

    • @semagicus693
      @semagicus693 Před rokem +3

      ​@@shaunhayes3072yes, as opposed to the old one, where neurotoxin worked just fine with the flamethrower. In fact, i always took neurotoxin with the flamer, because why the hell would i want to shoot subata at targets within flamer range if i can, you know, shoot the flamer at them.

  • @atpsoldat6108
    @atpsoldat6108 Před rokem +152

    Mate, you’re the soft-spoken Uncle Dane of the Deep Rock Galactic community. Your videos are always top-notched quality.

  • @kriskringle1948
    @kriskringle1948 Před rokem +16

    You make the best DRG content on the internet! Thank you for all of your hard work!

  • @samfish2550
    @samfish2550 Před rokem +13

    I love the direction of the subata as a sort of driller combo weapon.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Před rokem +1

      my only concern is that the Microwave is also pretty good at comboing, and wondering how they are distinct from each other.

    • @samfish2550
      @samfish2550 Před rokem +1

      @@Appletank8 well from what I can tell they fill in different parts of being a combo weapon, with the microwave giving set-up to improve the primary weapons while the sabata can use its tier 4 mods to act as a finisher after the primary weapons apply their primary status effect. Plus it is more of a versatile combo tool in the sense that it has no inate element wich means you don't have to worry about thawing bugs on the cryo.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Před rokem

      ​@@samfish2550 Sounds sick.

  • @Vanguard7274
    @Vanguard7274 Před rokem +7

    Thanks for all the work you put into these! It’s really helpful to have someone who knows how these mechanics work and interact with each other helping to keep everyone up to date!!

  • @douglasmarcus840
    @douglasmarcus840 Před rokem +8

    Thank you. I appreciate the time and effort that goes into making these. Rock and Stone!

  • @nosidenoside2458
    @nosidenoside2458 Před rokem +3

    The praetorian behind weak point being named "tank ass" is just so funny to me

  • @Mad_Profundis
    @Mad_Profundis Před rokem +1

    Thanks for your work, it's always interesting to see the changes in detail and with examples

  • @MrH2O1998
    @MrH2O1998 Před rokem +4

    These balance recap videos are so digestible. Thank you as always for making em.

  • @mikhailgsg120
    @mikhailgsg120 Před rokem +2

    On point as always! And thank you for taking the time and effort to make these videos. Rock and Stone!

  • @collyqually6486
    @collyqually6486 Před rokem +9

    DRG patch numbers make my brain go :D
    Thanks for always putting in the effort for us! Rock and stone! ⛏️

  • @sniss
    @sniss Před rokem +2

    lovely video as always :)

  • @lukekis00
    @lukekis00 Před rokem +1

    Love your videos. Really glad you're still actually posting something.

  • @cd8086
    @cd8086 Před rokem +1

    Appreciate the detailed analysis of every change man, you’re really the only person doing it like this 💯

  • @qwimpy1247
    @qwimpy1247 Před rokem +2

    I've had my space rig music modded to the UNATCO theme for ages, and when it came up in the video i thought my game was somehow open by itself.
    Thanks for that, and the explanation of NCTC for that matter.

  • @tulsatrash
    @tulsatrash Před rokem +1

    Thank you very much for going over the weapon changes for the start of season 4.

  • @mangoxmochi3205
    @mangoxmochi3205 Před rokem +1

    One of the best parts of a new major update are your videos :D Thank you!

  • @Chronically_ChiII
    @Chronically_ChiII Před rokem +2

    Bro, watching this while high is the fucking best experience ever!
    8:40 This explosion was so unexpected between the monotone voice, I fucking lost it.

  • @andrewschultz7499
    @andrewschultz7499 Před rokem +1

    An amazing in depth overview as always!

  • @Ninjaguiden89
    @Ninjaguiden89 Před rokem

    That was very helpful for getting into the new season! Also, never seen your channel before but this detailed video and your choice of the UNATCO theme made sure I will subscribe haha!

  • @chastermief839
    @chastermief839 Před rokem

    thanks for another comprehensive guide! your crunching is appreciated.

  • @benemenhall4215
    @benemenhall4215 Před rokem +1

    So nice to see u upload

  • @MrRailden
    @MrRailden Před rokem

    You're the best! Thank you for such a detailed video again, can't wait to try out the buffs to my beloved Subata :)

  • @666stonewall
    @666stonewall Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the work you put into it!

  • @nixxx62
    @nixxx62 Před rokem +1

    These videos are sick, hope you keep making more!

  • @DeaMeD0
    @DeaMeD0 Před rokem +1

    Love ur detailed videos man !!! excelent work

  • @llmkursk8254
    @llmkursk8254 Před rokem

    Thanks for all the number crunching!

  • @WuxianTec
    @WuxianTec Před rokem +1

    Thank you again for making the patch notes tangible for us. It's always nice to see what actually changes in the game for some builds, love it! Gonna have a lot of fun especially with the Subata Neurotoxin and the Double Double Barrel Boomstick.

  • @splitsentro
    @splitsentro Před rokem +3

    Thank you for your hard work!

  • @SIRT0PPUMHAT
    @SIRT0PPUMHAT Před rokem +1

    Aside from your explanation which is excellent, mega props for setting this to Terran theme soundtrack! The nostalgia boost fits right in with the DRG world.

  • @Sackrelije
    @Sackrelije Před rokem +1

    That OG SC Terran music in the background *chef's kiss* 🤌

  • @aleksandrkerenski4229

    Thanks for the crunchiness. Keep up the good work. Rock and Stone!

  • @aquietdragon5671
    @aquietdragon5671 Před rokem +1

    not even a week later and we have the update breakdown my brittle brain needs to really parse the weapon changes
    you are doing karl's work, thank you so much

  • @Meeryx4
    @Meeryx4 Před rokem +2

    As a Gunner main who had Manual Guidance cutoff previously and got rocket barrage free.
    It's _so_ incredibly fun. It's place in the primaries is dubious as it fills the same role I feel as your typical mini gun. But instead of overheating it reloads. I personally find playing with it very enjoyable. It's not a top tier game breaking Overclock but damn. It's just so fun to use.

  • @EduardoSevero
    @EduardoSevero Před rokem

    thanks for crunching those numbers big bro ❤

  • @WhosUrTrinidaddy
    @WhosUrTrinidaddy Před rokem +1

    thanks Lazy, good job on putting this one together c:

  • @GuyGallium
    @GuyGallium Před rokem

    incredible video as always, thanks for your effort getting it out!

  • @nicolepanacho7128
    @nicolepanacho7128 Před rokem +3

    you got this one out fast, even if you got early access this output speed is much appreciated good sir

  • @xxevildoctorxx2162
    @xxevildoctorxx2162 Před rokem +4

    Always love your content

  • @testname6624
    @testname6624 Před rokem +1

    my favorite part of every balance update is the inevitable lazymaybe video that comes with it

  • @literatemax
    @literatemax Před rokem +1

    Nice choice of music.
    I also love the little editing jokes like at 5:59 😁

  • @OTOss8
    @OTOss8 Před rokem +1

    What a great video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Cheers friend!

  • @videonmode8649
    @videonmode8649 Před rokem

    Thank you for taking the time to getting this out 🙏

  • @mrguy1855
    @mrguy1855 Před rokem

    Thanks a lot as always, appreciate your hard work and excellent presentation :)

  • @thiefswipe
    @thiefswipe Před rokem

    Thank you for making this! This is super helpful information to have.

  • @KittyNaptune
    @KittyNaptune Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the breakdown, these vids are a treasure :D

  • @wulfski
    @wulfski Před rokem +1

    It's always a blessed day when LazyMaybe drops a video. Keep up the good work, my dude.

  • @potyagushki
    @potyagushki Před rokem

    thank you very much for your tremendous work, love your videos and you very much

  • @Lightblinder
    @Lightblinder Před rokem

    thanks for the hard work, much appreciated 👍

  • @IMMACHARGINMYLAZOR
    @IMMACHARGINMYLAZOR Před rokem

    literally pulled up my builds to fix em up with your observations thank you

  • @callmemarcy77
    @callmemarcy77 Před rokem

    you're really the hero we all needed, love your videos!

  • @thcfck6870
    @thcfck6870 Před rokem

    this is a great video, I am thankful for youtube recommandations for once, you've earned a sub :)

  • @dablaire89
    @dablaire89 Před rokem +1

    if every game had an in depth video like this, I would be happy

  • @kuzidas4213
    @kuzidas4213 Před rokem +2

    You’re an absolute house when it comes to easy to access information concerning DRG mechanics. Thank you for your content!

  • @agent5657
    @agent5657 Před rokem +1

    Always love to see another video from the lazyguyman

  • @sabinadodge1390
    @sabinadodge1390 Před rokem

    tbh

  • @NP7_16
    @NP7_16 Před rokem +1

    Thank You Lazy, we appreciate Your videos.

  • @Strangest_Letter
    @Strangest_Letter Před rokem

    Thank you as always for the breakdown.

  • @lockehart7716
    @lockehart7716 Před rokem

    Great breakdown as always

  • @Appletank8
    @Appletank8 Před rokem +1

    Thank you mr Lazy, this is very appreciated.

  • @zeroairblade
    @zeroairblade Před rokem

    These videos are so good!!! Keep it coming Lazy!

  • @gentleusurper4778
    @gentleusurper4778 Před rokem

    Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them.

  • @Tricko42
    @Tricko42 Před rokem +1

    Lazy we all really do appreciate you putting the time and effort to let us know the juicy nitty gritty about DRG, and doing it in such a methodical and understandable manner.
    Thank you!

  • @sturmmagnunstein1008
    @sturmmagnunstein1008 Před rokem +2

    Glad to see the subata getting the gk2 treatment (and more).

  • @adamantiumman
    @adamantiumman Před rokem

    Great comprehensive update video, thank you very much!

  • @t-virus7098
    @t-virus7098 Před rokem

    Thanks for the video man, I really appreciate it

  • @DespicableDemon
    @DespicableDemon Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for the breakdown, definitely gave me more incentive to check out some of these OC's I've been ignoring.

  • @rossmarshall566
    @rossmarshall566 Před rokem

    I love this video. Great work!

  • @letrouble5746
    @letrouble5746 Před rokem

    Good job my dude, the best part of DRG content updates is that we get one of your videos.

  • @willdasch
    @willdasch Před rokem

    i was waiting for this video ty

  • @bravoxray
    @bravoxray Před rokem +1

    I'll have you know Lazy, there's not a single other CZcamsr who's videos I click on faster. Your stuff is the best.

  • @Intrafacial86
    @Intrafacial86 Před rokem +3

    Just about an hour ago from this comment I’m making, a patch has dropped, including a buff to the DRAK’s damage and heat bonus with the debugged scaling.

  • @Kywu
    @Kywu Před rokem

    i like the starcraft ost, also cool profile picture, you've got good taste fella

  • @TheGamerUnknown
    @TheGamerUnknown Před rokem

    I've been waiting for this video!!!

  • @TechNinjaSigma
    @TechNinjaSigma Před rokem +4

    I've been waiting for this one! Season 4 let's Rock!

  • @caolanmoore4027
    @caolanmoore4027 Před rokem

    Love these videos, there so incredibly useful

  • @user-lm8ud4gl3g
    @user-lm8ud4gl3g Před rokem

    Very nice video. I was waiting for this one

  • @thejustanoob4926
    @thejustanoob4926 Před rokem +1

    Thank you LazyMaybe, I did enjoy the video

  • @largeoctahedron
    @largeoctahedron Před rokem +4

    The new double barrel is SO much fun. I love just grappling up to big bugs and erasing half their health with a single click.

  • @HavinABadTrip
    @HavinABadTrip Před rokem

    I love the videos, thanks!

  • @MasterMegaManX
    @MasterMegaManX Před rokem

    Music selection on point as always.

  • @spiffy1209
    @spiffy1209 Před rokem

    thank you so much for this video, i love these