Deep Rock Galactic Season 2: Wave Cooker breakdown
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- 0:00 Intro/mechanics
3:36 Utility of cooker by itself
8:40 Is non-combo cooker worth it?
11:18 Combo cooker
14:32 Blistering Necrosis
19:22 Recommended builds
bgm: "Aurora Palace" from Rabi-Ribi, "Test Pattern" from Armored Core for Answer, "Exotic Laboratory" from Rabi-Ribi, and "Clanker's Cavern" from Banjo-Kazooie - Hry
So glad Ghostship stay true to driller's design philosophy across the new weapons and updates. The versatility in his kit are so amazing I don't want to play anything else.
You mean the various flavors of war crime?
Driller main best main
Also warcrimes
What philosophy, war crimes?
**every** class's design philosophy is true on the new weapons. I was against the idea that we need more weapons because every weapon needs to accompany class's ideas and gameplay and it would be harder to accomplish the more weapons we have but the way Ghostship did that is amazing
now with 3 both primary and secondary weapons for each class i don't know if we really need new weapons again and honestly with the new bar of uniqueness and quality of the gameplay each new weapon introduced i don't know if even Ghostship will reach this new bar but i will be really glad to see them do it again
I thought the fire/ice spreading was the major part of the chain reaction and not the shocks mist, good to know that it isnt
June 2nd's patch changed the Necrosis mod dramatically:
Now, they count as a 1.5x weakspot (+50% damage) and if they're on 2x or x3 weakpoint, they'll instead become a x2 or x3 weakpoint
On top of this, blisters now properly transfer all overkill damage to the target; it's no longer capped by it's remaining HP.
So it's a viable overclock now?
@@andreacarnevale3152 So it would seem.
@@justafurrywithinternet317 I can't not read that phrase in Commodore James Norrington's voice, from the first Pirates movie...
@@evage99 Yeah, I didn't even think of that.
Thanks for the info!
A lot of people view Blistering Necrosis as a "Spawn weakspots for your team OC" but honestly with the way it works and it is shipped it seems to be another "Complement your primary" option. You get a ton of value with it from your direct stream damage multiplication damage carrying over and the 80 extra damage is some nice burst.
Remember, if they got more legs than two, the warcrimes continue
The issue is how fast the boils break, and the weapon switch time. If you want boils to multiply primary damage you will need to repeatedly swap back to cooker to spawn more boils because the boils get popped very quickly by all your primaries. Swapping back and forth each time winds up slowing things down a lot compared to using boils to boost cooker damage, since you're also attempting to spawn more boils at the same time that way.
@@LazyMaybe With the flamethrower you're better off running temp shock for single target damage.
With Cryo the blisters are redundant since you can just freeze enemies; plus you could use Ice Storm for a massive damage boost or just destroy frozen enemies with your Subata/Drills/Allies instead.
And the Goo Cannon can't fire through enemies, so requires much more effort to be effective. This on top of Goo having really good DoT, which the boils will ignore entirely. Plus why do that when you can stack Corrosion, Floor Corrosion, Irradiation, and two types of neurotoxin for huge DoT and slowdown. (Wavecooker has it's own Neurotoxin seperate from the grenade/Gunner effects)
@@LazyMaybe I found it useful to spread boils around a crowd or stuff a beefy enemy with them, swap to the crisper (face melter, usually) for a massive damage boost
Amazing for deleting any dreadnaught, pretorians and set enemies up for later when I see them away
For future reference please not that blistering necrosis has been patched
Funny how it would combo really well with a subata
Damn, knowing how Blistering Necrosis works is actually really disappointing. I do hope it gets patch because it's such a cool idea for a sort of support build.
I'm the opposite, driller doesn't have primary weapons that benefit from weakpoints besides ice spear, so a multiplier for your radial damage to boost your single target is very welcome. I've had good success on elimination with sludge blast + necrosis
The impact axes work well on the blisters from Necrosis ;)
@@brockwidmann9210 Do they? I thought that one-shotting the blister would mean only doing the 80 poison damage.
@@kubaGR8 They have been doing well for me. Blister a prat and throw an axe on it, seems to pretty much take it out. Sludge pump shotgun OC helps too when built for numerous fragments.
There was some good vids on the "cancer ray".
@@brockwidmann9210 I guess it works if you set off the blister with the AoE part of the axe. So like, land the axe right next ot it on a Praet's ass.
Landing them directly on it seems like a bad idea, though.
I do think the Colette does, in a number of its strengths, have a lot of overlap with the Drillers primaries, but I also really like just how reliable it feels at longer ranges.
I've never really been too fond of the EPC and the Subata only really feels good with the full auto OC to me, at which point it does feel pretty nice but also becomes pretty unreliable at long ranges. So for that I do quite like this as a new option, even if it does feel a bit weird to use since it doesnt quite give the feedback most other guns do when shooting em.
Edit: Okay I have found one big issue with the gun after a while, and that is that it does not make a microwave "ding" sound whenever it overheats, and really thats just inexcusable.
Driller does the ding when you overheat it while shooting an enemy
About Blistering Necrosis: enemy projectiles can hit and hurt them. If you put a blister in the mouth of an enemy that can spit projectiles, it will block the shot and deal +50% dmg to the enemy itself.
Get trolled, acid spitter
After running a several missions with it, i very much liked it. Easily, the Cooker is a perfect successor for the Heavy Hitter EPC when used with Sludge Pump. Perfect secondary for the Sticky Flames CRSPR too. Just love the feeling of bursting enemies from the inside out.
It's great with a cryo cannon built for quick freezing enemies too.
Just did a haz5 with the mega power supply.
It was like spraying the grunts with boiling hotdog water. Yeah it worked but I was REALLY regretting not using the penetrant OC.
You know it’s starting to seem like the main theme for this set of weapons is meant to broaden utility. They aren’t the strongest weapons outside some niches but they end up providing some support that wasn’t their at the time. And I know many min maxers will see the numbers and think “trash weapon” not seeing this and throw it away. As I think these weapons can be cause for some interesting combos.
Having said that, the Wave Cooker has got to be the most complicated tool I think this game has ever seen. And I thought one of Engie’s weapons could of taken that title. But no, this damn thing has so much going on and stuff you just can’t see if you are just looking at numbers and be kind of baffled by. The blisters OC being just the cherry on top of this Erdrich horror of a dessert. So glad this video could end up helping me what I want out of this weapon.
Edit: Do got to wonder if those alternative modes would be useful if you use them as the main weapon. Like always being on wide mode, Etc. Wonder how useful that would be.
People who min max don't know what they're missing, especially with the crossbow or the wave cooker. Pheromone darts on a Boltshark maxed for ammo efficiency makes for a great utility for getting bugs to attack each other, with very little need to replenish ammo if you use the darts right and remember to pick up any you miss.
Blisters got buffed a couple weeks after this video came out
- Weakpoint bonuses now apply when shooting blistering necrosis blisters.
- If a boil from blistering necrosis is on a weak point that gives a higher damage multiplier than 1.5x the boil will copy the weak points multiplier.
- Damage transferred from shooting blisters is no longer dependent on how much health the blisters have left.
- Removed the cap for how much damage the blisters can transfer to the enemy at once.
Yeah, I talked about these changes(and some others), it's just awkwardly split up across a couple more videos due to when the updates came out. They're uh...
czcams.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/video.html
czcams.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/video.html
...in these two.
I personally enjoy being a war criminal with the sludge pump, tier 3a, 5a, radioactive oc, and neuro nades. Something about seeing all the status effects pile up is just sooo majestic, especially when my fellow dwarves add to it. I had clipped myself melting a bulk dett with my squad, with the slow from both my cwc and my sludge, the acid dot, the neuro from my nades and wave cooker, rads from the oc, electric from my engie and scout, his ifg and pheromone arrow, and heat from engies beamer.... There was like 9 different stats on the thing and it dissolved so fast it couldn't even move 5 meters from where it spawned directly in front of us lmao
I just came up with the exact same ideas of using the wave cooker with ice spear and sludge blast, super cool breakdown of that idea though and loved the throughly broke down analysis’ thanks for the great content.
love seeing some breakdowns for the new content, i am too busy with work to do the legwork right now so this is awesome
I love the colette, idk why it gets so much hate... Being able to clear giant swarms on naedocites from the other side of the map just feels so satisfiying.
Also I noticed that the desintegration kill animation prevents exploders from detonating which comes super handy to save your team mates from being sneak upon.
People who hate on the wave cooker don't know what they're missing.
Preventing exploders from detonating feels very nice on Escort missions with Exploder outbreaks...
These are the in-depth analysis vids I never knew I needed.
Amazing work and thanks :)
Woah this is such a comprehensive breakdown. Love how you discuss how diff builds perform while always considering the cooker's role in your entire loadout
This has to be one of the best video game videos I've ever seen. You answered many questions and some I didn't even know I wanted to ask. You are the gold standard for videos that explain things, thank you.
Honestly I am growing to like the Sludge Blast and Colette combo a lot. Ice spear is also really good. It also offers a refreshing way to play driller.
This was very well made. The footage fits the information displayed perfectly and makes understanding what difference everything makes much easier to understand.
Flawless overview of it's strengths/weaknesses, usage cases, scenarios. The video sports excellent BGM too! Recognized everyone and made me smile while being educated on the weapon.
I'm shocked by how much I enjoyed this weapon. Even my unoptimized random builds felt satisfying. The range is amazing and the wide firing scope means it deletes far away small targets. The ammo economy is solid and the sound effects are very satisfying.
Edit: Blistering Necrosis has been fixed! See czcams.com/video/TnKzURdC24M/video.html
Also, here's a more accurate explanation of wave cooker hit detection: czcams.com/video/UyEQMmi7G5U/video.html
If it's unclear, all footage is hazard 5 and 4-player scaled enemies except for the footage of blistering necrosis, which is hazard 4 1-player scaled so that the damage numbers are straightforward.
Other drg test/info videos: czcams.com/play/PLqTo6tQ9tCOrABARyls3C94qzGo6TW3h_.html
How do you disable enemy AI?
Also does cooker benefit from frozen status damage multiplier? Think I saw someone mentioning about it on discord
I use cheatengine. And yes, cooker benefits from frozen.
@@LazyMaybe Ah damn, hoped disabling AI was just a matter of changing something in difficulty files
Even though they patched repeated tier 5 A, it will still work with any stick flame build. Just lay down some fire, use the cooker to hit the temp shock whilst they are in the fire, and you can trigger the temp shock over and over as long as they bug is in stick flames! it is possibly the best single target damage to ammo consumption the driller has as this time.
How do you get the test area you film your videos in?
Great breakdown, I loved seeing all the testing.
As a driller main I love this video! Thanks for making such a comprehensive and easy to follow explanation of such a complicated weapon. Would love to see more builds from you as well.
The way this thing shoots reminds me of how the BFG works in the original Doom games
Another excellent DRG weapon breakdown video. Please upload more of these!
This breakdown was incredibly useful and very well put together. I play on haz 3 primarily and I was somewhat disappointed in how this weapon performed when I tested it out. Thanks for giving me some ideas on how to tweak it a bit. I would love to see breakdowns like this for every weapon eventually. Great work.
I think the devs knocked it out of the park with this secondary. With boiler ray builds I can finally comfortably take single-target, utility, or ammo-hungry primaries which opens up a lot of builds for Driller. Definitely my favourite of the bunch.
I’d love to see someone take the wave cooker and make an infomercial-style video for it, like it’s the latest must-have kitchen appliance and if you call now you’ll get a second one absolutely free lol
So much hard work omg, best educational content channel so far.
Great stuff man, love watching technical videos like these.
I recommend running the tempshock build with sticky flames, shooting under the target first let's you build heat again quickly.
Hell yeah Ive been waiting for this, Thanks Lazy
Great video. Also love the banjo kazooie background music. Takes me WAAAAY back
Great video!!!!!ty for work and numbers on screen!
Loved the "not pictured: a team of randoms doing this competently". great breakdown too.
love your explanation and showcases.
Awesome testing man. This is super helpful!
Thanks for the amazing guide 🙏
This weapon is quite simple, but so nuanced to get right. I feel like I never get it right unless I just do the thermo shock mod
10/10 vid. Well done, it's crazy that this is free for me to watch
love that this vid cleared up the wave cookers damage type and the effect of boiler ray. I had interpreted boiler ray as an effect like shatter for the cryo, but knowing its actually like the t5 crispr mod is super helpful. I was also confused why it didn't seem to do double or normal damage to mactera, doing half fire damage clears that up too.
I still think this gun could use some balancing, focus lens seems very useless for not increasing damage potential per ammo or per heat, and tiers 2 and 3 are pretty boring/obvious for a vast majority of builds. that plus the guns weak performance with raw damage makes it pretty boring to build, you generally optimize for secondary effects and sustain and thats it. the dps focused ocs, wide lens, and clip size don't have much use.
Damnit this is some legit & important content. Exactly what i was looking for, noice & subbed for more boss 👍
Someone with actual insight on how the gun works. Thank you !
Your videos are so damn good. keep them coming for all the nice games like DRG, Elden ring, etc..
I love deep rock science. Thank you for your service miner!
Thank you for the analytical deep dive!
Helpful and very underrated content
Cooker was very confusing for me to understand at first but this helped a lot
Hypothermia- hypothermia boom 💥 😂😂 this my kind of use
I notice that the Temp-ShockOTron seems to outshine the other builds for gun, similar to how people almost always run Thinc-Containment-Field on the EPC.
Which is a shame because I also like the DoT stacking build but blowing up hordes of fronzen/burning grunts while doing big damage to the big bugs at the same time just seems way better.
sludge pump on its own is really strong though, GC microwave is more to compliment that than the other way around
I used to run thin containment field on EPC until I realized that I could build it for fire damage and use it to set my sludge puddles on fire, making for a really decent crowd control build since I only need to shoot the sludge a couple times to set it on fire and then keep on laying down sludge since the sticky flames on the sludge will keep on spready as long as there's more sludge connected to it, and it will remain for as long as the sludge remains. Honestly, it's better than a sticky flames build for the flamethrower, though it does leave you without a decent ranged secondary for far away targets that need to be taken out.
One of the effects the T3 temperature mod claims is keeping frozen/ignited targets in that state. I'm curious how well that works on Dreadnoughts? Freezing a dread normally requires pretty tight timings to get the damage in, and I'm thinking of running the wave cooker to extend that opportunity.
I can never seem to build up statuses on dreads. It never works.
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 dreads cannot be ignited, but they can be frozen, though it takes a good bit to do so
Beautiful video. Thanks!!!
YES YES YES I wanted to understand this gun more. Thank you
Thanks for the video bro!
Very informative, I finally get this weapon
Very informative, thanks.
Good stuff, thanks a million.
Best Zero profile picture + Banjo Kazooie bgm+ ACTUAL DATA ANALYSIS AND EXPLANATION
This channel has everything
Today I learned. Thank you!
The kitchen appliance goes hard
Love this gun so much
Thanks for making this video. Though for some reason I felt like power supply overdrive was multiplying the fire rate by 1.5 instead of 2.5, but I had no way to test it.
Great vid
thank you, this gun was sort of throwing me off and you cleared up a few of my questions about it.
Now i just need to decide if it's better than my Sludgepump/tox nades/Subata with bounce bullets setup and get some overclocks for it.
I like to use Gamma lense along side the sludge. If you build it right you can completely remove all movespeed from some big enemies aswell as deal huge amounts of DOT.
amazing video
Thanks for "Aurora Palace" from Rabi-Ribi
Your videos are great and informative, cant wait for the laser beam
There might be a lot less to break down for the laser, unless there's some complicated overclocks for it I was unaware of.
This is something small, but I appreciate the mod you're using for your damage numbers. It reminds me of borderlands 1 or 2 damage numbers.
100% Best Channel for in-depth DRG info, have this award from me, which ultimately means nothing, lol
Until minute 8 this video is so chill
"I love you, kitchen gun!"
Gotta love the banjo-kazooie music
Damn, I'm going to have to try that ice spear + wave cooker build for myself
Thanks. I do say i was bit confused with this one. For real, i thought it was underpowered but when i found out how good thermal shock was. I knew it was good.
This really is a strange weapon. Thanks very much for the explanation.
That music when he talks about blistering necrosis just says "oh boy I gotta explain this one"
I could see a pure swarm popper build with it gun absolutely shining in one very specific, but very sought after combination. The Swarmaggedon/golden bugs combo, where you face significantly fewer single tank enemies, but more swarms, where you as a player want to remain in the cave system as long as possible.
Heard rabi ribi ost, instantly knew was a man of culture.
MA, HEY MA I MADE IT INTO A VIDEO. Good lord who knew! Great video and hope to meet you in the depths once more!
Noice vid!
HOW DID I NOT NOTICE YOU USED AFTERIMAGE DURING THE NON-COMBO EXPLANATION AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Dude your DRG info videos are so fkin unbelievably good. All clips are amazing, wether it's the shooting range mod thingy or the real use clips. That's a shit ton of effort to make this, man, appreciate it very much. Definitely one of the most interesting guns in this game. Before release I thought this would be the least interesting new secondary :D
12:23 thats how I actually use it, the combo to get rid of a group of guards/slashers/macteras :)
19:05 but what if you keep shooting with wavecooker only? How much better than non-OC is it then (on tanky targets)?
19:55 DUDE LOL
Current fav: CCBBC-LCS, paired with a BBBCB-TC Cryo, heavily relying on axes for the single target dmg.
But after this video I'll try to play around alot with this gun!
Notes for myself (I guess I'll watch this at least 3-5 times lol):
5:26
7:12
8:40
"roughly as good as the other secondaries". I want to like the temp shock feature, but I hate switching weapons every 5 seconds.
I like the swarm clear cooker + face melter dps flame thrower. Tons of fun lol
Man the weapon is so strange compared to anything else in the game. Its a shame necrosis performs the way it does currently. Seems like it could be a very fun over clock with some fixes!
This gun is also the best gun for killing fester fleas in big rooms. I’ve had aquarq mission where I stood in place tracking the festers and slowly ticking their health away. It’s awesome too because you don’t have to chase them down as much.
You're doing Karl's work, comrade, thank you.
Rabi Ribi my beloved
Wow that was very informative! At first look and trying the weapon out I really did not like it (Too addicted to the Subata I guess) and after watching this it looking a lot better!
Hit the bricks pal your done!
This weapon is crazy. :-D
I fucking heard that Rabi Ribi soundtrack, you can't hide from me
I used this for a while and enjoyed it, but I switched over to the Pistol with auto. I played driller with a more burst-focused damage strategy and it just suited me more. The Cooker is still my go-to for great sustained damage.
I like the Wave Cooker cuz I came to DRG from Warframe and stacking DoTs and Status effects is already ingrained in my DNA.
The Blistering Necrosis boils can block projectiles.
I once covered a Hiveguard’s face with them and she couldn’t shoot a single fireball
I too love the Nukor
Uranium lens is simply put, the best overclock.
Molly getting in the was as per usual at ~7:50
Also, I really have been using this weapon all wrong, and am very glad I clicked on this video. Thank you for the information.
I think part of the Blistering Necrosis mechanics were re-used for Rockpox bugs.
More weapon guides, I wannna know great engie weapon builds. For general use, for deep dives, etc.
One of my favourite things to do is to cover a dreadnaught in blisters, then charge shot with impact damage overclock on the sludge pump. You can nearly 2 shot the twin dreadnaughts like that.