SUBARU OUTBACK IN THE SNOW - OFF ROAD WITH A FORD BRONCO - Subaru Outback Wilderness VS Ford Bronco
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video my cousin comes for a visit with his 2023 Subaru Outback Wilderness edition to play in the snow!
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I love my wilderness. Also love ford. But have found the subies just last longer.
What is the rand of that camera holder on top of the Wilderness you have? Been looking for reareview camera holder as well, but thought yours look cool
Awesome video, I just pre order my wilderness and coming in 2-3 mths
@@hadyriyanto8719 Nice, the wilderness is very nice! I'll ask my cousin what mount that was, it was his.
@@NorthShoreOverland Thank you :)
The station wagon is by far the most impressive vehicle in this exercise.
Pretty impressive show from the Outback imo. Especially with those tires, seemed like that was what was holding it back more than anything else. I bet with a set of snow or winter-rated ATs it would handle that trail with no problems at all.
Pretty impressive for the Wilderness considering it has stock tire
You have to drive the Outback differently. Keep throttle pedal pressure and let the computer find traction. Most people instinctually lift off when there’s wheel spin but that’s opposite of what you should do. If there’s traction to be found the car will find it
Both vehicles did this test run with less than ideal tires. The Bronco ran mud tires which are okay, particularly in fresh snow. The Outback looked like it was running on all-season tires which is even more less than ideal. Impressive results none the less, however proper tires are everything even for 4x4's and all-wheel drive vehicles when you take them off-road. That also includes the smallest size wheels, and the most tire wall for a given tire size to allow room for airing down in mud, snow and sand conditions.
True. We should of aired down. Would of made a big difference. We are both new to this and learning everytime we go out!
One thing that I have admired on the Bronco that I wish the Outback had available is the 7 speed manual option with crawler gear. That would really make the outback even more capable.
OH man, with the low center of gravity, imagine how fun that would be in the snow!
@@NorthShoreOverland Both you guys should know you have a low gear ratio but you have to put the shifter in manual mode and stay in first gear! it will not shift unless you use the paddle shifter to shift it, so don't shift it keep it in first gear and x-mode.
I have a 2009 Forester with a 5 speed manual on General Grabber AT2's and it rocks in the snow!
Good to know! I'll pass the info on to Jesse.
Same here but 2011, 215/70r16 grabber ATX’s and ive yet to get it stuck off road
@@battlesship Nice. Those ATX's are a nice tire.
Love your videos! Love seeing that bronco in action. One super tiny thing I'll say, I love hearing the crunching snow, the sound of your engine, and your dialogue way more than the music. This video without music would be perfect, or at least without music during times that you have audio available. Just my two cents though. Either way, I'll keep watching the vids. Keep it up!
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback. I know what you mean and I'm trying to find a balance. In this video it was really windy and the sound was muffled, so I decided on music. My last video I did without music. Thanks for watching!
@@NorthShoreOverland That totally makes sense. You're definitely doing awesome with your videos. Your channel is one of the first I look to for updates when I load CZcams.
Hey, scoring by Hans Zimmer isn't cheap!
@@jdr9861 haha
Nice video! The Subie is still a better looking car! ❤
It's all about Ground Clearance and the Right tires
Tires are so important. Makes the world of difference.
Massive likes here on your beautiful channel. Thanks for sharing that snow scenery
Thank you very much!
i think the subaru is plently capable, just a different level compared to the Bronco. it's like comparing 2 professionals of different sports in my opinion.
Nailed it! here's someone who gets it. The VS was just in good fun. he's my best bud and we just went out to challenge him. Was a fun day.
Fun stuff. More of both please!
-Current Gen 5 Outback owner
-Current FJ Cruiser Owner
-Future Bronco Sasquatch owner.
Nice!
Nice!
and Nice!
And will do for sure!
When it comes to snow & ice on the highway & streets which vehicle do you feel in more control of? I have an FJ & the wife was debating getting a Outback for the midwest winters which we are both new to.
@@garrettsmith8286 I think the Outback would feel better on the snowy highway. Lower center of gravity with amazing all wheel drive. You'll feel glued to the highway. Keep the FJ for yourself for Offroading!
@@NorthShoreOverland Thanks that was what I figured. I use to own a 2004 Forester XT Limited and I miss it. It was fast with the regular auto trans and 2.5 Turbo.
Also. Trail turn assist!! You'll love it. Have one of your kids dig through the menu, you can shut off the alarm that goes off when backing up. :)
I've already hit a tree! I need that alarm haha. And I have a Manual, no trail turn assist.
The only thing the Subaru needs is tires and a driver mod. Great demonstration of why tires matter!
He's got Blizzak winters now. May try it again!
Hahahaha, Jessy and his sprawled out moment to help push the car away. Way too funny!! 😂 I'm still thoroughly impressed with that Subie, no doubt!
We gotta take that Bronco to some real fun and technical trails 😉
Haha I know right! Yes, soon enough!
The Subaru did better than I expected, but the bronco...didn't break a sweat.
I know right! Yes, this trip was more about the subaru. I keep telling him to put a little lift and some Toyo AT3's . Imagine what it could do with those!
@@NorthShoreOverland Yeah it would be a sweet set up, wouldn't be getting stuck on those stumps
The subaru did decent. Not near what most think this vehicle is capable of though. The brand has been over inflated for years now.
@@NorthShoreOverland he should lift the outback it would help significantly
@@NorthShoreOverland tell him to be careful with the outback that shit nearly crushed my soul with those close calls
Where the Subaru was having the tough time making the corner, the snow reminds me of the temps just above freezing where it’s that wet watery type of snow but the temps are also just cold enough that it won’t slush up or melt. Always makes for a fun time getting traction
Oh for sure. There wasn't much traction that day!
two VERY capable machines.. nice!
the bronco has a massive advantage for multiple reasons, but it would be amazing to own both.. the subaru for the whole family + overlanding, and the bronco for 2 people to enjoy harder off-road challenges
Definitely!
Or take 5 in the Bronco and not get stuck lol. Don't get me wrong I love Subies but after driving three of them don't count on them offroad.
@@ZepG depends what kinda off-road adventure you are looking for. I put about 500 miles off-road on my Subaru so far and it’s been great. Obviously not a rock crawler, but that’s also not what I’m looking for
@@MarksTech I'm not just talking about rock crawling, my biggest problem with Subies is the delay getting power to the wheels that need traction. I was just in Vermont in December and was driving my Inlaws 2019 Forester back to our rental cabin and just hitting a few patches of snow on a hill caused a lot of unnecessary wheel spin, My Fj Cruiser would have not even slipped. Subaru needs to have a locking diff option!
@@ZepG good point I would agree to disagree I have a 2005 legacy and do not have a problem with delay idk my grandma has a 2020 accent and it has the delay. Might just me subaru advancing. But Fjs are sick 🤙🏾
That's how real off roaders deal with obstacles
I cant wait to buy my bronco
Great story for today!! thank u guys i ll keep tune!!
Our pleasure!
It's more a driver and tire issue on the Outback side ;-) But after seeing this, I would really want a Bronco as it is must nicer imo than a Jeep or a 4Runner. Ford did a great job!
Indeed they did! I love it.
@@richg5113 I think it’s nicer than the current 4 runner. But the new one coming soon will beat it by far.
Bronco has tighter turning radius which defeats in that tight turn course. Subbie needs tires lift and a locker then its a fairer fight.
@@richg5113 the 4runner is a bit more reliable but that's all it has going for it.
I love this! I have a 22 Outback Wilderness, stock, and hubby just bought a 22 Bronco Wildtrak 2 door! We plan on doing part of the Trans America Trails in the fall. Trying to sell my Shelby to free up money to outfit the Subie and Bronco. Awesome video!
This was a good video! You guys had too much fun!
Glad you enjoyed it! You can never have "too much fun!"
Yes it's all about tires. I have a 16' Outback with aggressive snow tires that are great in the winter for some light off-roading.
This was really just for amusing purposes anyway. :) The next time we get together I'm going to make sure and air down, have my traction boards readily accessible, and a few more tricks up my sleeve. Unfortunately, tires just aren't in the equation for now. Maybe next winter. I'm really not claiming the Baru can out off road the Bronco, I do enjoy pushing the Baru though especially in stock to see what it can and can't do (without wrecking it as it's our only daily driver at the moment) once we can get together more often we'll be sure to either talk a lot more smack about the other vehicles, or really focus on teamwork... Haven't decided yet. :) Also, you guys need to remember, Steph is the one editing all his videos with no input from me whats-so-ever so there is that bias point of view to consider. Haha!
100% Yes, was just for fun.... some are taking this as a serious comparison. I really do want to see you with a set of KO'2s or Toyo AT3's... and possibly a small lift in the future. We will be doing some trips together and with some teamwork, we will be able to go on many adventures for sure! I'll pull you when you get stuck and you can pull me to the next gas station!
That was a very entertaining video - Jesse, be honest there is NO way your Outback escaped without any scratches or rashes after that adventure!?
@@NorthShoreOverland Yup my buddy's outback on Ko2s and a small lift keeps up with my 4runner on (most) conditions. He obviously cant crawl nearly as well but the subarus are plenty capable! With ATs and a lift this outback would take this trail just as easy as your Bronco!
I'd be interested to see the Subaru with equivalent AT tires on it. I have a 2013 with winter tires all year, but they don't have the tread of AT tires, and they do slip on steep, uneven terrain.
Yes, a good set of Toyo AT3's would do him wonders!
Agree. Needs better tires. Subaru is allergic to giving quality tires.
Equivalent tires would not fit on this jeep without a major lift kit.
@@toadranger50 ain’t gotta be the same size. Just something that isn’t more or less an aggressive highway tire.
@@radzer0966 I get that, but even with the more aggressive tires it’s clearance and approach angles would never let it go where that Bronco could. Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice vehicle and good for what it’s supposed to do.
That Subaru did great for having little more than street tires!
I know right? I didn't think he'd make it that far.
Have this exact Bronco and love it but used to own a stock Rubicon and let's just say there are levels to this...
Nice vid, man! Great content, as usual
Appreciate it!
I like it very entertaining and fun Thanks to all.
Thank you! Lots more videos to come!
People saying how capable is the Subaru off road .......hmmm comparing with a Toyota corolla? 😂... The guys are awesome though.. cheers have fun!!
Pretty much! haha. More adventures to come. Next we might do a Bronco Vs Subaru how far between gas stations video haha.
Fires up the $3,000 4x4 work truck with the air bags disconnected, won't say hold my beer cause I'll definitely be holding it, however I may say watch this. I'll never sell it for that among other reasons. Can't wait to get a bronco. We need a lift and tire video, thing looks awesome now 🍻
i think it wouldve been a little sketchier in the tight spots with a 5 door bronco. id love to try something like this with my forster, but offroad driving in germany is not allowed...
With the subaru u have to stay on the gas it's not like a 4x4 my subaru crosstrek would of went right through that but he did good I really like that 2 door bronco that thing is sick looking great video
Thank you! Unfortunately is was so tight between the trees it was hard for him to stay on the gas and let the Subaru do it's thing. His crap tires didn't help.
Put same tire on a Subaru as on bronco and it won’t get stuck anywhere. I had a 2005 legacy and I once pulled a suburban on 20 degree hill in snow.
I'd love to see Toyo Mud Terrains on a subaru.... but I don't think they make that size....
Where'd you get the Hans Zimmer music?
epidemic sounds. royalty free music. Good site if you make videos.
I like how your buddy thinks he can push off a tree sitting in a 4k lb car 😜 That Bronco sure looks sweet, but I really do love the Outback (I have an Onyx XT so I may be biased). Would love to see this test again with some meaty tires on the Subie.
Well he's moving closer soon! so more Subie Videos are in the works!
It is funny and he probably did not do much but... On my tacoma i can move it a pretty significant amount just by moving around quickly inside or bouncing.
Nice work!
Thanks!
Go on and make a few more of these. It's fun to see
Working on it!
Most impressive thing is when homeboy walks over and pulls a 6’ log out of the frozen tundra with his bare hands
hahaha
I’m a ford guy, but this wasn’t even close to an even comparison. I’m not sure some of the other commentators were watching. The jeep is ok for what it is but he would be stranded if he was alone.
haha, yea. From some of the comments some people didn't watch and just got defensive about their vehicles. This wasn't a real VS for the vehicles... but I didn't want to title it "Me making fun of my best friend as he tries to follow my lifted vehicle off road with sub par all terrain tires" It was a fun day in the woods, and that's all that counts.
It doesn't hurt that the Bronco has monster snow tires !
I may or may not have put even bigger ones on since then..... and he kept the same size....
@@NorthShoreOverland very cool video !
Nice video boys! looks like a good time. Not sure why I didn't get the invite with my Mitsubishi Mirage LOL
Ha! I'll send you the coordinates, let us know when you are there and we will meet you!
How fun. Thanks for sharing.
Subaru needs the torq locker and air down.
That would be awesome!
What one would you drive on the actual streets , where you will spend 90% of your time? Which one is a better road trip vehicle?
Bronco 100% Yes, harder on gas. But I just love it so much. If you only go by mileage and comfort, then buy an AWD Minivan.
Yeah, I can’t wait to get more snow now!
I want more!!!!
Awesome, guys!!!
Thanks!! We had a blast
eye opening vid! my choice has been made. thanks.
Once he gets some snow rated a/t tires and maybe a small lift on the subi he will be in business.
The guy with the tactical pants always wins! Right?
Well of course! 😄
You really can"t compare the two without changing the Subarus tires it's the traction not the transmissions between these two
Oh yea for sure. I keep telling him to get new tires! This was just a fun day to get out and have some fun.
It’s way more than just tires, it’s about a locking transfer case with a low range the bronco has and the crossover doesn’t, and 2 selectable lockers on the bronco vs traction control that sucks… this terrain wasn’t really challenging… that’s why the crossover kept up.
Even if I ordered an Outback I'm very impressed with the Bronco.
Toyo AT III....yes.
Subarus do good in snow. Obviously ground clearance is an issue for serious off road use. They lose head gaskets around 100k. Notorious. But other than that there is not a more capable AWD car on the planet. I wish I trusted the ecoboost engine in the Bronco. But I don’t. What a cool rig. Being able to change quarter panels and grills, etc. That’s awesome!
Please do a re-run with better tires on the Subaru. Great video though 👍🏼.
And next time we will air him down too.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Subaru needs better tires and it will perform an entirely different way. That bronco was beautiful!!
When you still have to get the kids to school in the morning
And you don't need to stick to the road to get there!
With a better driver and better tires that Outback would have cruised through that snow. All in all, really cool video! My wife and I picked up a 2022 Outback Wilderness and although we dont have snow in FL, its been a great car on the sandy beaches!
Yea man, my WRX with less ground clearance has gone through tougher conditions than these two are in…
Lucky he didn't break his arm!
Honestly throw some better tires and i think it would be good. Also gotta remember driving on packed tracks
Let’s just start with the tire comparisons. This is no where near an equal comparison.
For sure. The VS was just a Joke. He's my best bud and he bet me he could follow me. Was just a fun day of pushing the Subaru's limits. Actually really proud of how far he got with no offroad experience.
Yes, it not a one to one comparison. Body on frame vs unibody, mud & snow tire vs all season tires, 10+in lift vs. 8in lift & ford reliability (average) vs.subaru reliability (above average).
Relatability wise , subaru vs toyota ?
Subaru + Nokian winter tires = 🤯🤯🤯
That would be a killer combo!
The Subaru needs better tires for this application
Next time he comes up my way we will air him down and see.
Watching these videos is not good for my blood pressure!😂
hahaha. try being there.
My DIL has an outback . It's took a licking and kept on ticking . Seems to be holding up to her lol
Slubaru could use some traction boards next time 😅 Bronco didn’t even break a sweat 🤙🏼
Great point!
Need better tires for the outback. That’s all you need.
A set of Toyo AT3's would of done wonders! Airing down a bit would of helped too.
@@NorthShoreOverland Once I can afford new tires for it sure!
I think a lifted Crosstrek with AT tires would be a better match as it has a shorter wheel base. Still impressed with how far the Outback went though.
Oh for sure, I didn't think he'd get there!
nah the crosstrek has less power and overall doesnt quite have the offroad ability of the ob. The forester wilderness may be a bit better though.
@@jamespostle6894 My Crosstrek Outdoor has the same 2.5L engine as the Forester so power is not an issue. With X-Mode 2" lift and AT tires I've gone places I never thought I would be able to.
@@CoolPilot I guess I'll just have to see for myself. I have a 2.5 outback limited and my sister has a crosstrek so we'll just have to take em to the trails and compare. Not exactly the same comparison but would still be fun.
I'm a Subaru guy. Also a Jeep guy, sold my TJ Rubicon to help pay for a Bronco. Super cool to see you guys out in the woods with a friendly rivalry. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks! Yes, I'm also a Jeep/Subaru/Ford guy haha. I've had two Wranglers and an Outback in the past. Loved them all. But this Bronco... Oh my. It's a different kinda love.
Enjoying my new 6spd Crosstrek but will never sell my locked 80 series. The new Broncos and such are good looking for sure but I’m completely content with reliability and capability of Land Cruiser
This is why the first thing I did was upgrade the tires of my obw
Good call! What did you go with for tires?
@@NorthShoreOverland toyo open country AT3s
@@danieljackson-woods6225 I'd say that's the absolute best tire you could put on an Outback! Great choice!
@@NorthShoreOverland I ran ko2s on my crosstrek but it always felt sluggish due to the weight of the tire
The Subaru not being able to engage all 4 wheels is the problem. Should be a mode for situations like this. The tires spinning and trying to figure it out just makes it worse digging yourself in or messing up what traction you had. You could of swapped tires between the two and the Subaru may of fared a little better, but the Bronco would still out do the Subaru because all 4 wheels are engaged.
For sure. A rear locker on the Subaru would be sweat!
And the outback wilderness got front camera when you are driving offroad so you see what's ahead.
Yea it's nice! Bronco has it too.
One could say the "Wilderness" edition didn't quite live up to the wilderness...
Well, it was pretty "Wild"
“Epic Music Plays”
Guess you should bring proper tyres for the Subi next time
Are the Geolander tires on the Subaru Outback Wilderness sufficient as winter snow tires then?
Nothing compares to actual winter tires. He is using them on the road and they seem "ok" but as you can see, they don't have the best traction in the snow. I think his plan is to only run them this winter and then either get winters or upgrade the tires.
yeah, I think if he would had put snow tires only on that Outback it would have had better traction.
Fun video but that loud music doesn’t work for me. Needed to fast forward a bit to make it to the end…..
Thanks for the feed back! Still learning what works. I'm using less and less music now and making it more subtle. Mostly.
The black cladding on the Outback definitely did it´s job there. Thanks for the vídeo. I enjoyed it.
Thanks for watching! Well be making more videos together in the future.
@@NorthShoreOverland I want to see a drag race between the two!
Slap some BFG KO2 tires on that Outback and it would be a beast.
That's what I keep telling him!
I just called the wife over and said, "Honey, Look. We can't get the Subaru now..."
Haha, get a Bronco!
Pretty hard core
Nice ride !
The Mule got some new boots! Looks good. Stock Badlands lift still?
It did! There's a 1" Rough Country level kit in the front.
yay it didn't disappoint me! lol 😅 i just got me a forester wilderness today, will im actually picking it up tomorrow thank you for not tapping out lol btw first time watching your channel! im a new follower & subscriber! thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for watching! Enjoy your Wilderness! They are great vehicles!
Does your cousin have all the bottom protective guards on the car? Or just the stock skid plate?
I'll ask him, not sure....
He says the Canadian Wilderness comes with extra protection from Factory.
@@NorthShoreOverland great, thanks for letting me know
Interesting here in US it's an extra 200 for each protective piece
Tuned in to watch the Subaru but wound up impressed with that Bronco and finally get to see it in 2 door model.
Thanks! Yea I love his Subaru but the Bronco is just in a totally different category. Both have their strengths. Make sure to subscribe, lots more content coming, and he'll be back with his subaru!
Where in nb are you guys? I'm in fredericton with a lifted forester
Hey man! I'm in Bathurst and Jesse is in Moncton. I'm sure he'd love to hear how you lifted your Forester. Also, he goes to Fredy quite a bit. Hit us up on Instagram. @northshorebronco and @outback_wilderness22
My new Outback Wilderness is arriving any day now. It will never be in the same situation as the one in this video though. Nice to know how capable it is!
Awesome! yes.... Jesse is a bit extreme with his.
As it turns out, it is the Bronco he should be worried about LOL. Break downs & recalls as of 2023!
hahaha. I have 2 broncos since 2021. No breakdowns yet. And only a few recalls. I love all offroad vehicles. Go do your bashing somewhere else.
you are luckier than everyone I know who has owned one and gotten rid of them. I am not bashing, I enjoyed your vid. If you don't want honest comments maybe turn them off?@@NorthShoreOverland
Well, I know a lot of Bronco owners, and I hear a different story than what you're saying.@@phlashtheband4939
Those GEO's are snow rated as I have them, there is no excuse for not airing down
Yea, it would of made a big difference. We are both new at this. Lessons learned.
Does the Subie have snow tires like the Bronco?
Bronco had Mud Terrain tires. Subie had all season All Terrains.
Tires are a huge advantage for bronco. Obviously the bronco is more capable but is it worth what it gives up on the road? That’s the question I wonder. Tires and angles are big advantage for bronco
Oh for sure. I love his Outback. To me they are just completely different categories. This video was just a fun outing and challenge.
Just when your in the woods come hiway I'd take the Subaru for gas mileage any day
The Outback just needed better tires.
Put some All terrains on that sub I n it would do so much better
Agreed
Put some good all terrain tires on the Subaru and the bronco would stand no chance
Yes bronco is more capable but what is price difference
All depends on what you want! It's less than a tank!