Drum Teacher Reacts: Johnny Winter, Edgar Winter - Tobacco Road (Live)
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Stick around to the end! I scroll through YOUR comments from the 'Frankenstein' reaction I did previously.
Some great info in there. Thank you for contributing!!!
David Lee Roth did a cover of Tobacco Road after he left Van Halen. He had a pretty amazing group of musicians playing with him who I'm sure you've heard of. Steve Vai, guitar. Billy Sheehan, bass. Gregg Bissonette, drums.
Do you want to know one of the best drummers in history rock music? Here you have Carl Palmer from Emerson Lake and Palmer. This drum solo is amazing! czcams.com/video/3lcQaTl0YTc/video.html
Could you explain the differences in the way the drum sticks are held? Some drummers appear to hold them palms down and others ( Buddy Rich?) with one hand palm up. There are others that I can't determine how they are holding the sticks. Does it make a difference or just preference?
If you dig the blues, review anything by Stevie Ray Vaughan. You will be blown away and will listen to his stuff over and over.
The bass player is Tommy Shannon who played with Stevie Ray Vaughan, Arc Angels and Storyville
This is why I am glad I grew up in the seventies. And 50 years later. It's still great music
Absolutely Dale
Timeless my friend
Me too! Any time Johnny came to Detroit I was there!
You know, I went to school with them. I have never heard anything as good as them. I played bass and did some jam with them and Janis Joplin. When I look back I see how great they did music. Johnny could beat me bowling…. Lol
Oh wow Richard!
What an honor to have known them
My sister went to school with Janis and used to give her a ride home after Art Club meetings. Jefferson County has produce a lot of musical talent.
Johnny on guitar and Edgar on everything else
"Time is a heavy, heavy concept" - Andrew spitting out life lessons.
HAHA YES!
Also, in 1988 Johnny Winter became the first non-African-American performer to be inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame!
I hope Edgar sees this video and feels the love he deserves.
He said that he found out about it a few years ago - he has seen it. Hope he sees all the good reactions too! ☮️💟
Johnny Winters performance at the last day of Woodstock has been considered one of the top three performances at the festival. He chose to stay true to his Blues roots, but was also a promoter and producer for a lot of musicians (rock, country, R&B…).
Being albinos, they could only go out in the sun a limited amount. They both spent their time indoors learning how to play music. I got to see both of them live separtaely. Amazing concerts. R.i.p. Johnny Winter, one of the best blues guitarists. I wrote this comment while you were talking about them indoors.
I’ve looked through the comments and can’t find where anyone ID’d the drummer. The drummer is Uncle John Turner. He was given the nickname Uncle John because he was the kind of guy who would look after his friends and band mates (giving them rides and making sure they took care of business) by the bassist in this video, Tommy Shannon. Tommy went on to play with legendary guitarist Stevie Ray Vaughan and drummer Chris Layton as the fantastic trio Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble.
Can you imagine Mr and Mrs Winter while their sons were growing up? "You boys better put those instruments down and do your homework!!" I grew up in Houston in the 60s and was lucky enough to see Johnny a few times before he was nationally famous, in small blues/psychedelic clubs
..and get your hair cut!!
@@Tim091 Oh yeah. Hilarious. Damn, I heard that alot
Me too! Unforgettable musicianship.
YES , both Johnny and Edgar know how to play many instruments , if not all of them ! Johnny mainly sticks to the guitar , but Edgar plays everything else ! And that's all they did all their life . Got to see Johnny three times , the last time was two weeks before he passed away ! Loved it all for the last forty years . Rock on Johnny !¡!!!
Not only switching to Sax, but not missing a beat doing it...insane
Yup!
Might recognize the bass player for Johnny back in those days, Tommy Shannon when he was a young guy, before played with Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble. Tommy was also with Johnny when he played Woodstock back in 1969. Edgar often said that Johnny was his musical hero & would have probably ended up being a audio engineer or struggling jazz musician if it wasn't for Johnny. maybe next compare Edgar & Ricks version of Rock & Roll Hoochie Koo to Johnny's. Rick wrote that song for Johnny. btw the drummer in this video is Uncle John Turner
I thought I recognised that white Jazz bass from somewhere! Tommy rocks
Johnny Winter was a legend among the Texas Blues circuit. Texas bands made it when they got to Austin. He left for LA and got signed. Then Jimmie Vaughn went from Dallas to Austin ...Shortly after that Stevie Ray went from Dallas ..to Austin. The rest is history.
Johnny Winter's bass player Tommy Shannon quit the band , went back to Texas and became Stevie Rays bass player.
I knew a guy that went to school with these two brothers he said they pretty much ran the band class
HAHA. I bet
This song was on one whole side of a live, double disc album from Edgar Winter & White Trash from 1972. One of best live album I ever heard. 2 sides jazz, 1 blues, & 1 hard rock. This performance was Edgar's show; Johnny let his little brother lead. Johnny is one of best blues/rock guitarists ever, on level w/SRV.
''Roadwork'' live album White Trash band with Jerry LaCroix was far too short lived ..That was a fire line up , just gold ..
I still have my original vinyl that I bought when it came out. 😊 My late husband and I got to see these two play together the last time they came out to Phoenix. 😊😊😊
Exactly correct: they were effectively “trapped” indoors (by various factors), and music became their refuge.
Edgar is obviously very into blues, jazz and gospel. He says that rock and metal singers got their screams etc from gospel.
Edgar is like top ten all time at everything he does. The guy is flat out incredible.
Their father was a muscian. He played sax and guitar. Jonny stayed with the blue but played on others work. As a kid he want to with Muddy Waters, he not only gets the chance but produces a couple of his albums. Edgar is like the guys from Toto. If he isn't making his own work he is going session work. That keeps out of the lime light.
Superb muso
Andrew I guess you were expecting something a little more mundane, glad you unpacked this unexpected treasure find.
A great review for an absolutely great song.
Just something more standard.
This is freakishly good!
i have herd this song 1000 times the look on your face priceless
Life changing says it pretty well. It’s really just musical geniuses. Look at what age they were when they were doing this bro! Not just singing but playing all the instruments at such high levels is unbelievable. These type of people don’t come around very often. It’s in their DNA from the beginning.
You are right I saw them about 50 years ago and it changed my life it was about respect and love of music and when they played tobacco road the crowd went crazy it was great
The half-naked sax player you threw in was the dude that played with Tina Turner. Edgar Winter actually played the sax solo on "Simply the Best". You said the magic word...Swing...my fave 12 bar!
Yes Lost Boys sax player/Tina Turner band member. You got it!
Ned from Spain here. The other thing that playing time on his leg was that he was able to go smoothly to the ride, relaxed and already in the groove. Uncle John Turner was an absolutely great and under appreciated drummer. Thanks Andrew. By the way that's Tommy Shannon on bass, who later played in SRV's Double Trouble.
FREAKING AWESOME! I grew up with this kind of music, and I am GRATEFULLY for that. I stuck mostly in the 60s, 70s and 80s because MUSIC, man.
The best video of all time, my favorite, and I've seen them all.
Johnny Winter one of the best guitar player ! my favorite live album Johnny Winter live and ! wow
I was a teenage drummer when this came out. This and Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, ELO, ELP, Santana, and Yes among others. I was also a fan of big bands; Benny Goodman, and Tommy Dorcy among others. I have been playing for 55 years now and don't plan to stop!
I find it interesting that you grew up without any of this on your radar.
This stuff was the soundtrack to my life.
Keep up the good work .
Can’t wait to watch, you’re gonna love it!
💯🤯
You should get a video of their White Trash band era with vocalist Jerry Le Croix .. he was an awesome singer ,like 1st class and beyond ..That band was far too short lived . Get the live album video , it is just the music itself but it is pure history... It is called Edgar Winter's - Roadwork - Rick Derringer Jerry La Croix Johnny Winter .
I’m glad to see somebody’s done Johnny winter the best guitar players of all time do you want believe it 1968 I bought his first record album it has never been opened I will not sell it for now nothing by the way you have a great channel show actually musicians He had one of the finest bands if you ever had a chance to see him live in the top three Of guitar players that’s my opinion I met him he even bought me a beer course I was 15 years old just remember he didn’t have all these foot panels the guitar players have today I will never be another like himKeep your channel going strong allway remember have a blessed day.
By the way his first album totally blues albumHe got four stars out of five for his first album try to find it and see how hard it is to get
Edgar was the virtuoso in Frankenstein, he played lead guitar in this song, Johnny was the vocalist/keyboard, sax virtuoso in this song.
And yes, they were inside, always practicing their music
Thank you Shari!
oh, and one of my favorites for the drummer is Ram Jam "Black Betty", extended version is 7 min but amazing. Think I heard that it set the rock standard for drums in the 70's
Other way around. Johnny is on guitar and Edgar is the singer. 😊
This is how it was done! G O D I Loved being a teenager back then! 👋😎👍
Everything GREAT! And your explanations made me appreciate this band & music so much more. Thanks, so much!👍💯
Edgar Winter and his brother Johnny Winter on guitar....just an incredible performance.
Drummer's subdividing is on point! I always subdivide when needed.
That's always a fun video to watch. Thanks Andrew for your always astute reaction/analysis.
Incredible Don!
They moved to Texas from Leland, MS. If you are even passing thru on US 61 or US 82, stop by the Highway 61 Blues Museum....worth a look.
I'll do that David!
Johnny Winter and SRV are m two favorite guitarists. The guitarist that played on Frankenstein is legendary as well, Rick Derringer, he penned the rock classic Rock And Roll Hoochie koo!
Andrew, great reaction! It's interesting hearing the perspective of a profesional drummer. I had the privilege to see Edgar Winter perform live in my little berg, in Idaho. He performed both "Frankenstein" and "Tobacco Road." He was opening for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. If you are interested in more Texas-style blues, check out Stevie Ray Vaughan (and Double Trouble) performing his live performance of "Texas Flood" (Live at El Mocambo). Also, are you aware that ZZ Top was a Texas band whose signature sound was Texas-style blues? Have you seen Joe Bonamassa perform "The Legend Of John Henry" Live At The Royal Albert Hall? There were two drummers (and complete kits) during this concert. It is awesome!
Being a drummer I'm pretty sure you will appreciate drumming on Johnny Winter Highway 61 revisited from Johnny Winter Captured Live
Wow wow wow!!!🔥🔥🔥 I've seen these brothers before and they kick ass every time!!! Great request n analysis as always 💯
OMG this is amazing
Music WAS our Social media! I am 70 and have seen all and I mean ALL the greats! I am glad to be a music fossil dinosaur!!!
Raw talent.
For what it’s worth, Edgar is touring with Ringo Starr’s All Star Band this year.
NICE! I dig that all star band
@@AndrewRooneyDrums The All Star Band has performed Frankenstein in the past as well, as Edgar has performed with the All Star Band previously.
@@AndrewRooneyDrums czcams.com/video/ffMX_xfAj9g/video.html
Those Winter Bros. are some of the best/legendary brother rock artist/musicians out there and a real treat to see them share the stage in this video. (Other famous brother rock musicians, just off the top of my head, are Stevie Ray Vaughn and his brother Jimmy from The Fabulous Thunderbirds, Angus and Malcom Young, Gregg and Duane Allman and Ronnie and Johnny Van Zant). Saw Johnny Winter live at a small club back in the day, but never saw Edgar live, unfortunately. Very cool Andy you are taking this journey into 1970's classic rock and blues; keep these great first time reactions and analysis coming! :)
Best live performance ever
Can't argue. It's truly astounding
Imagine Saturday afternoons at the Winter house:
Mamma Winter: “you boys stop shredding those instruments and go outside and play!”
Johnny and Edgar: “MAAAAA! WE’RE ALBINO!!! The sun HURTS!!!”
What you just experienced is a SPIRITUAL journey.
"They Only Come Out at Night" by the Edgar Winter Group was my first album purchase when I was 10 years old. I _HAD_ to have the full uncut version of "Frankenstein", b/c the chopped up one they played on the radio, didn't do it for me. Took me a while to save up my allowances but I finally got it. I wound up buying it again several years later, b/c I dropped the first one, as I was taking it out of the sleeve to play Frankenstein for the eleventeenth time, It landed on it's edge and cracked a chunk out of it. I still played it b/c Frankenstein was the last song, closest to the label, so it was still intact. Still have it. It holds a special place in my heart, since it was my first album.
Awesome Taylor! 🙌
My brother in law turned me on to them with the White trash Road Work album, freaked me clean out, I mean I was only 12 13 years old, one of the best live, double live at that, albums ever. Always trippin on Edgar, man of a thousand talents. Bravo.
Both are freaking amazing!
Yes George!
There was a legendary jam session where a certain Jimi Hendrix had to play bass because Johnny Winter was already on guitar…
I love that you love this, or at least appreciate!😊
Musically, 1 Johnny plus 1 Edgar equals 3. Edgars soul scream is right there with James Brown, Wilson Pickett and Bobby Womack.
Johnny Winters--Mean Town Blues.
That’s just showing off. Glad you followed up on the recommendation for this song.
David Lee Roth did a great cover of Tobacco Road.
I love FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS.
So good Greg!!
Yup love FOTC!
Dam this song goes hard. I've never given a good listen to Johnny winter, i think it's time.
Yup same for me!
Johnny's Let Me In album is solid gold. He also sings every song and brings it. "I'm the Illustrated Man"
I'd recommend Progressive Blues Experiment, Second Winter, and Still Alive and Well
I have a poster from the late 60s with Jimi Hendrix and Johnny Winter as Guitar Super Heros in a cartoon Blacklight poster. It's worth a lot of money, but I'll never sell it. Pass it down to my grandson who is a rock guitarist, and idolizes both Jimi and Johnny.
It's fun seeing you expand your musical horizons to stuff I've listened to for decades. I started listening to blues in the early 80s. It began with SRV and took off to everything I could find. Winter brothers were one of those that have always stood out. Their musicianship and showmanship is up there with anyone in any genre.
Great video. I’ve watched a hundred reactions to this performance and I learned several new things from your experienced eyes and ears
Awesome! Thank you! 🙏
@Andrew Rooney Drums. I understand you're a drummer but Edgar and Jonny Winter were both great musicians. Jonny was a masterful guitarist.
Can we give the drummer some love here? Guy was amazing.
Well thought out and coherent reaction
Eric Clapton was asked once, what was it like to be the king of blues? He replied ask Jonny Winter.
Actually you are exactly right. They spent a lot of time indoors as children. But also because they were made fun of because of being albino. I've listened to Edgar since I was in highschool. I'm 62 now.
The guy on the guitar is big brother Johnny. The thing to remember is that Johnny was not big on the use of guitar effects. He insisted on going with a pure clean blues rock guitar sound. If he had used effects you would not have been able to quickly recognise it was Johnny. I know this from way back. I started playing guitar back in 1971. What you can say without fear of contradiction is that the Winter brothers were phenomenally talented.
No freakin lip synch, no auto tune, no freakin computerized crap…just freakin talent….I feel sorry for all of you that have no clue listening to todays so called greats..you have no clue what real talent is.
It’s VERY refreshing
BEAUMONT, TEXAS! Just up the road from Janis' hometown of Port Arthur.
Gatemouth and Marcia Ball from around the corner.
@@tZydeco AMEN!
ORANGE, TEXAS!
@@ragasthegascap1 - hey Greg, remember A-Train from Shreveport? Another top of the class band that couldn't be pigeon-holed.
The Black gospel influence on Edgar Winter is as obvious to me Lyle Lovett. Who is from Houston.
Albert Collins. Johnny Guitar Watson. The list seems endless.
If you want to hear more of Edgar Edgar's sax playing, check out David Lee Roth's Easy Street and Just A Gigolo. He has a blast there!
The bassist later played with Stevie Ray Vaughan, can't remember his name, but he's terrific.
Oh wow. Thanks Steve! 👌
Tommy Shannon
I was born in 1969 however my mom was a music teacher so I was exposed to 60s and 70s music hall through my childhood so when I got older, this was the kind of music I listen to this, and I’m a firm believer that good music stopped at the end of the 80s however there was a little bit of music in the 90s that was decent
Phenom.
Someone call a doctor, these guys are sìiiiicccccckkkkk.
I know you do a ton of Sabbath but gotta do the iron man live from the same show you’ve done war pigs and hand of doom etc. bill wards is hitting extra heavy and the fills are crazy
Billy Ward does no wrong. ❤
The bass player is a young Tommy Shannon, who would later play with Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble.
Cost me 5 bucks to see them outdoors at the Mississippi River festival in St. Louis area , money well spent ,
Oh wow!!
Saw Johnny winter in a bar in Queens NY packed with Hells Angels in the 80s. Awesome show
Connected!
YUP
EW and JW have dozens of killer tune. So many
Johnny was epic. Edgar still is epic. Do not worry so much about punctuation. ☮️
You should check out Lee Michaels, organ player and his drummer nicknamed Frosty. A totally amazing drummer plays his kit like a musical instrument rather than just a percussionist. You will be surprised.
The brothers played a lot together as an act (The Winter Brothers) and in each others bands. Each had completely separate and successful career.. Johnny was a blues powerhouse.. Was Muddy Waters long time guitarist on tour and in the studio... For a very long time, Johnny was the only white person (in this case very white person) inducted into the Blues hall of fame.. and he scats just like Edger.. Oh, and played at Woodstock...
Back in the day the band I was working for were booked three nights at a bar. The bar got the opportunity to have Johhny Winter play on one of those nights. Long story short they used our PA and lights. I noticed the follow spot guy narrowed the beam down so it came below Johhny's eyes and he explained it was because of the albinism.
Johnny Winter considered to be in the top 2 or 3 Rock/Blues guitarists all time. Both Johnny and brother Edgar are insanely talented musicians. Both have passed away, Edgar the youngest most recently. Both Brothers are "Albino". They were born and raised in Texas.
The Delta Blues masters say the Winter Brothers were baptized in the water of the Big Muddy...can ya tell?!..hehe...
I Saw you (unlike a lot of others) noticed the drummer try to come in early during the solo. Real life, and any of us who play live have been there in the moment. Surprised me a bit that you didn't mention it, but IMO it TOTALLY added to this performance, as a reminder of it's organic greatness and evidence that things don't need to be "perfect" to exceed greatness.
Johnny on keyboard, sax and vocals. He was the preverbal chosen one. Edgar the younger brother was talented as well. He's standing on guitar. Both were players. Music was life. They let it breath and went with the flow. They chose to play and were way beyond. Their talent was in their blood and soul. They just played, while others kept up.
My mom played music that way with her band. She could pick up an instrument she had never played before, hear a song and play it minutes later. She couldn't read music, but she could play a keyboard and accordion. Old school country, blues, boogie woogie and even polkas if you can believe it. (Our Grandma was Austrian.) Mom sang the vocals and her band filled in.
We five kids grew up listening to them play. They would come home after a gig, drink and jam at "home" to unwind until dawn. We would fall asleep listening. All five of us sang and played various instruments. I am the oldest and played drums and sax, not so well, but I could keep a beat. Brother one, played lead guitar a little. But we both liked to play a "gut bucket bass", a brown jug, mouth harp or whatever we could improvise on.
Brother two played a fiddle/violin but gave up early. Brother three played bass, and still does here and there. Sister was the only one to follow mom. She went to Nashville for a time but came home. She played keyboard, banjo, and some guitar. We all sang and did so up to when we each grew up and went our ways. Only Sister could really read music.
I'm almost 70 now, I picked up an accordion, and started making Cigar Box Guitars and things. My goal is for us to get together and just play like we did growing up. Sister has a huge covered back patio, and a shop where we all can jam. I've got stuff for the younger generations to make noise with. Mom's gone now, but she'll hear us. Last time we had a family gather 85 of our people were there. We made some noise that night.
I would guess Johnny and Edgar had some of the same things in their lives to some extent. I'm not a huge fan of some of their work, but they sure could play.
Edgar on keyboards, saxophone and vocals, Johnny on guitar...
Thank you @@lepetitoiseau. Not sure where my head was at, and I stand corrected.
@@TheDukie54 It happens to the best!!!! ;-)
The version of Tobacco Road by these lads on the White trash album is on another level again, no joke, a mate called it Indulgent! When you ate that good you can be indulgent. Reg Albino, Edgar, The White mans blues, have a listen, enjoy😊😂.
That mustache plus the skin tight white suit from Frankenstein is a look you need
YES!
My first concert ever! The Edgar Winter Group. I could have sworn Johnny was on drums. That would have been between '71 and '73.
Johnny Winter was the first non African-American to be inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame in 1988.
Wow! Thanks Sue!
Edgar is the singer keyboards, and saxophone.
This was absolutely amazing!! 🤯🤯
Live from Denmark great on !
Best live performance in recorded history
F ing amazing. ☮️💟☮️💟
The best. ☮️💟
It's funny Tim Cappello and Edgar Winter both played for Tina Turner...