Evaluating Fallout New Vegas companions and side quests- a look at the NCR and the Legion
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- Join me as I play through a lot of New Vegas' crazy amount of side content and reflect on how it paints some of the key factions in the game.
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Songs:
Large Fe by Marty Robbins
A big chunk from the New Vegas OST
Chou Super Dragon Soul from Dragon Ball Z Kai
666 Kill Chop Deluxe from Lisa the Joyful
Dexter's Lab end theme
Gascube by Manfredvarg97- / gascube
Timestamps:
00:00- Intro
00:36- That Lucky Old Sun
04:05- Boone
08:02- I Put a Spell on You
08:36- The White Wash
12:50- I Forgot to Remember to Forget
14:20- Arcade Gannon
19:29- Lily Bowen
23:14- Rex
24:22- Cass
27:09- Black Mountain
28:12- Raul
31:21- ED-E
32:01- Yeehaw
32:29- Wang Dang Atomic Tango
33:49- Talent Pool
34:24- Classic Inspiration
36:22- Camp Forlorn Hope
39:00- Bitter Springs
40:41- Camp Golf
42:22- Camp Searchlight
44:08- Veronica
44:51- Vault 11
48:04- Vault 19
50:20- Vault 21
51:31- Vault 34
53:04- Vault 3
54:21- Vault 22
59:39- I Could Make You Care
01:05:24- Legion evaluation
01:15:53- Wrap up
01:18:50- Outro
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Hey. Here's some timestamps:
0:36- That Lucky Old Sun
4:05- Boone
8:02- I Put a Spell on You
8:36- The White Wash
12:50- I Forgot to Remember to Forget
14:20- Arcade Gannon
19:29- Lily Bowen
23:14- Rex
24:22- Cass
27:09- Black Mountain
28:12- Raul
31:21- ED-E
32:01- Yeehaw
32:29- Wang Dang Atomic Tango
33:49- Talent Pool
34:24- Classic Inspiration
36:22- Camp Forlorn Hope
39:00- Bitter Springs
40:41- Camp Golf
42:22- Camp Searchlight
44:08- Veronica
44:51- Vault 11
48:04- Vault 19
50:20- Vault 21
51:31- Vault 34
53:04- Vault 3
54:21- Vault 22
59:39- I Could Make You Care
1:05:24- Legion stuff
Also I want to point out ahead of time that I implied the first candidate for Vault 11's elections WANTED to be voted for. He did not, he suggested that someone else be voted for. I just don't know how to read. Also I said that Crawford sold Boone's wife to the NCR instead of the Legion.
Legend. Not enough high quality time-stamping on this damn website. ;) I just really appreciate when people take the time to do it.
you passed right by the unique super sledge Oh! Baby in charleston cave next to nightkin
@@foxdemon4209 hurt to watch, just a little bit.
bro love the vids it be cool if you could do the new pokemon or skyrim dlc lol
Trying to sell camp hope as anything other then an underdeveloped time waster is really silly. Especially when it's around 5 or 6 quests all together, most have a single objective that's either preformed in about 5 mins or less, or requires traveling across the map to alot of irrelevant locations of no substance.
I'm all for praising the better quests in the game, but calling the game content stacked when these quests all sum up to one larger quest made of very weak sections isn't true when things like the quests for casinos or the clinic are much better designed.
Especially when the ncr quest is shallow like this and the legion version is much worse in that degree
"This guy is a total idiot"
He has a theoretical degree in physics. What more could you want from him?
To use the pulse gun against the brotherhood
We’re also forgetting that man is also figuring out if one of the buttons in plant opens a vault filled with naked women. I’d give him 5 stars for the work.
a degree in theoretical physics. or just a basic understanding of what he is actually doing.
@@kinagrill r/whoooosh
@@jpheitman1 Nnnnnnnnope.
I love that Rex is hanging out with the Kings and used to be with the legion, since his name just means "king" in Latin
Oh shit you right, my dumbass didn't even make that connection 0.0
@@apia212 also Rey is king in spanish.
i love "hanging out" with the kings, as if rex is civil and knows what hanging out is and how to do it
you're here for THAT, aren't you? how dare you imply that's not the case 😤
He also has the bull painted on his side.
Boone makes you feel like the companion.
*"Eat this."*
*"Can't run from me!"*
"I always knew you'd be the end of me"
*random 25 xp pops up
*"Thumbs down, you son of a bitch."*
I have to ask what your pfp is, I know it's a secureotron, but it isn't victor or jane or any of the other named ones. Who is it?
Since companions trigger the cinematic kill cam, I can just be walking around and then out of nowhere Veronica slams her fist into a giant mantis and gives me a heart attack.
Lmaooo right you’ll be sneaking past a death claw n boone snipes a mole rat from a mile away. Shit gives me heart palpitations
I'm glad I'm not the only one. It scares me half to death.
ive had veronica just start beating a deathclaw up with no hesitation and then IMMEDIATELY get smacked and downed
Every damn time
@@iwakeupandboomimarat every time i need to fast travel anywhere where deathclaws could be i have to set my companions to passive and just run
What kind of NCR bureaucrat would walk up to a half destroyed shack in the middle of a wasteland, knock on its nonexistent doors and ask whether any of its inhabitants have a degree in *theoretical physics* only to pick the first idiot who said _yos._
I like the NCR but damn Caesar wasn't joking when he said the NCR government is incompetent.
That's what happens when you've been sent out to the frontier without even the grunts needed to hold the place down, let alone specialists. Pure desperation. It was probably like ''let him tinker with the machines, can't make things any worse than they already are.''
some of NCR quests caused by their incompetence. Like powder ganger jailbreak and camp of misfits
but the guy didn't say yes, he said "i have a theoretical degree in physics" and the dumbass NCR bureaucrat was like "guess that's good enough"
Things like that are just funny because the way the game works with the NCR. Like if you only ever do main quest line stuff the view you get is that the NCR is noble, means well, and the only problem they have is being short staffed. Start doing side quests, talking to the Companions the game doesn't literally throw in your face like Cass and Raul, and you start getting a very different story. NCR Ranger boss Hanlon sabotaging the Mohave forces because he's scared of facing the legion again. NCR soldiers shaking down and robbing caravans. A Legion Spy getting up to the rank of Captain in the NCR without anyone having a clue about it. Complete incompetence such as the Misfits, but even in their "Elite" outfits like the 1st Recon Snipers, and Ranger Andy from Novac. Slaughter of non-combatants to the very last. Hiring anyone who claims to be able to help (Hell, you fall into this as the player) without any vetting what so ever. Corrupt businessmen paying off the NCR to slaughter families and let them claim their land as their own. And so many more.
Still won the first battle of hoover dam with a goddamn act of god (the divide) completely cutting off their supply lines. The legion are only well ran as long Ceaser is alive. When he dies they will crumple.
"Truth is, game was rigged from the start" - Todd Howard, moments before revoking Obsidian's bonus over 1% on Metacritic.
Bethesda was the one who brought up the bonus anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Plus they could've gotten that 85 if they had recognized the scope of a project like this, that had to be small. Ahhh but ambition is a thing.
Edit: typo
Disgusting
@@194_SS How could you say something so Brave yet so wrong?
@@altcenter4944 wrong? Facts don't care about your opinion. Thanks for not being an ass btw, we know how the nv community gets...
Pretty sure Tod doesn't make that decision
I still tell the “theoretical degree” joke from time to time
Its such a good joke
Yeah! I busted that joke out at work, didn’t get a single laugh cause people didn’t understand that putting the theoretical part first changes it’s meaning
It's one of my favorite lines in the whole game
@@OuterHeaven210 just like in the game
Yup it's a hoot
I actually really like Motor-Runners voice acting. His deadpan delivery of his atrocities is pretty funny.
Dude is probably bombed out of his gourd. That, or Obsidian decided to have those lines recorded at the end of the day and VA was just done with life at that point.
It fits that he sounds drugged up, to me he just sounds uninterested.
His moral compass is busted to me his voice acting suits him not only to be perpetually stoned but painfully apathetic to the people he hurt and killed.
I know the guy is totally drugged to the point of not caring about anything. The Fiends don’t really care about much to begin with anyway.
It also makes it a bit offputting. I mean, he’s a drugged up psycho, killing people is nothing to him, same goes for talking about killing people.
The most heartbreaking thing in all of New Vegas to me, is when you go into the Sierra Madre and meet Christine, but there's no option to tell her that Veronica is still alive.
You can't tell Veronica either which is just as heartbreaking. The Sierra Madre took both her mentor and her lover from her. :'(
Bruh just let go.
Oh yes please reopen that wound for me, I didn’t need tonight’s sleep anyway
I saw a good fanfic on reddit about them finding eachother again
Ryan Barrie link pls?
“I’m with the government, have a little faith in us” not reassuring at all lmao
Weren't Vault 22's scientists also kind of with the government?
@@b3nl555 Thats part of the irony
@@ssj4kel I know, I'm just adding.
"The scariest words in the English dictionary are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help" -Former president or something
Especially not if you've had other-games experience. Vault City wasn't exactly all that appealing of a place and they were like a baseline government onto themselves. Then there's the Enclave.... yikes, the remnants of the US government gone full retard-facist.
Or the Brotherhood of Steel going full religious over tech and gets hateboners towards anyone else using a laser rifle that is not THEM. Or we could mention Caesar's own autocratic governing of the Legion through FEAR and eradication of individuality so everyone are 'part of the legion', no matter their original tribe or identity.
Could also mention the enclave... again, in fallout 3.
So yeah... why are we gonna have any faith in the government of a formerly good-natured Nation (the NCR), which has repeatedly been drilled into our minds through our New Vegas playthrough how bogged down with bureaucratic bullshit-redtape, greed, and overall loss of direct-power to the president due to a natural need for delegation...? the fact they send mercs to harass settlements until said settlement either agree to being incorporated into the NCR or takes up arms first and thus legally speaking from NCR POV, are a-okay targets to be shot on sight.
I love that Caesar's story about being kidnapped by a raider gang is actually a reference to a real event that happened to the original Julius Caesar. When Caesar was a young man he was kidnapped and ransomed by pirates and when he read the ransom note they had written he insulted the pirates, told them he was worth double what they were asking for and that the sum they were requesting was an insult, and told them that once the ransom had been paid he was going to hunt them down and slaughter all of them. They asked for more money, his family paid, and he came back with a crew of mercenaries and slaughtered every last pirate.
31:08 "Holy shit man! Yeah this is just a side character you can miss by the way" is the epitome of Fallout New Vegas, so many well written characters and quests but Obsidian had the balls to make the majority of them missable and it really made us the players want to go that extra mile to try and see everything this game had to offer because it was all well worth it
And all of the named characters with extensive dialogue that can be unceremoniously killed before you even realize that they’re a unique Npc. New Vegas is an absolute treat and the attention to detail never fails to blow my mind
I know Its a bit late but I’m playing new Vegas for the first time rn and like holy fuck man this has to be one of if not the best game I have ever played and the amount of stuff you can just miss is astonishing I’m going to have to replay it many many more times
Just like the old games
New Vegas is one of those games where the various smaller stories join each other to make a main story greater than the sum of it's part.
It works more like a machine where there's hundreds of different moving parts and several of them are gonna break. You don't know which one are gonna break, but you're more than happy to find out as you go.
most are relevant
It's because it's the story of a place, the Mojave, whereas fallout 3 is the story of a group, the brotherhood
ripred42 that’s exactly it
ripred42 oh that and your dad
“My brain hurts when my hand isn’t being held”
Me when ever I boot up Morrowind and can’t figure out what the fuck I’m supposed to do
Strange everytime I start a Morrowind run my masochistic side comes back to live as I get cursed/infected by a gost/feral wild life.
Losing all my strength and reloading a safe whitch hose back more than 45 minutes.
My 5 year old self who played it on the og Xbox agrees
I got so disoriented I drew out a map of the entire balmorra and vivec city region and marked all possible caves and areas of importance like:
Lonely person here!
Or anderno's tomb
So I would play and my brother would pass me directions. My monke brain grew to evolve.
Thanks Morrowind.
I've been playing it for almost twenty years off and on so I guess that's why I'm used to it and love redoing everything and doing all the big mods.
It's not *that* hard. Okay, so sometimes I spend hours looking for a cave west of a town, when the quest giver specifically say "East", but that's on me for not paying attention.
For the most part, if just you read what people tell you, you'll find where you need to be fairly quickly (You even have a literal transcript of the conversation in your Journal so you can double or triple check if you need to.)
You didn't mention it because you probably missed it but, the NCR flag flying over BitterSprings is upside. This is usually a sign that the area is in desperate need for help if some kind. Once you finish most of the quests in BitterSprings you can see that the flag is no longer upside down on the pole
The reason the NCR attacks jacobstown is because of Hanlon's false radio reports saying by ranger station alpha there are mutant legionaries in jacobstown
Holy shit thank you for this revelation
And it also fits well into the campaign of some senator Morales, right?
The salt factory basically has the personality of Arcade Gannon
pj pepi idk Gannon seems happier
@A M Nope, Arcade is awesome
Nah arcade has a personality behind the facade
@@borderlinecomedy5031 So does Salt
So... You mean gay personality?
You mildly sequence broke Nipton, as the Legion was *only* hostile because you brought Boone along and he opens fire
Are you sure? I was on my save file where I had "failed" the Beware the Wrath of Caesar quest and was hated by the Legion. Do they still not attack with that in mind?
The Salt Factory Yeah, Boone will be hostile and open fire for you. The Legion ai treat it the same as if you had opened fire yourself
@@TheSaltFactory Normally, you get a pretty awesome conversation with the dude in the wolf hat where he asks you to spread the word of what happened there as a warning.
@@TheSaltFactory They do attack you on sight if you're already Hated. But most players run into them on their way to Novac for the first time and usually haven't run into the Legion before this point so most players will get the conversation with Vulpes. Unless you're like me and hadn't learned the intricacies of the faction armor and walked into Nipton in NCR gear. Then the Legion WILL open fire on sight.
Your path that led you to Helios 1 and Novac first screwed ya there. The game kinda herds you to go a specific route via Cazadors, Radscorpions and Deathclaws in particular to try and herd you south (but doesn't force you, a good sign honestly.) Under the suggested route by various NPCs in Goodsprings, you'd head south to Primm, then to the Outpost, then catch Ranger Frost who'd direct you to Novac and Vulpe's encounter. Most the times I've done that route I've not had the power or gear to take him on at that time, but Boone's got a hate boner for any Legionaries (obvs) and will actively attack any active Legion member who gets in his detection range. For better or (as in this case regarding dialogue options) worse.
1:08:44 House not attacking you as soon as you enter the strip isn't an inconsistency. In a different quest he makes it clear he doesn't want to make a show by sending his securitrons into a casino to arrest someone, so we know he's avoiding turning the strip into a warzone. Otherwise he'd start losing patrons -- gunning down couriers in front them would be generally bad for business.
Yeah, it's consistent with how he operates. Although, that doesn't explain why the Securitrons don't open fire the minute you step into the Lucky 38 - only once you go to the Penthouse.
I suppose the developers didn't want to cut the player off from their "home base" in the Presidential Suite, in case they'd stored important items or companions up there. But in game it's kinda awkward.
@@LadyDoomsinger I think the code got cut with Victor supposed start the fight in casino.
@@Savantastic yep, but thankfully there's a mod that restores that cut content, shame it couldn't be apart of the base game though
Well for me I'm pretty sure securitrons started blasting as soon as i went into the casino, maybe it's a glitch?
@@LadyDoomsingerI've always hated using the lucky 38 as a base, don't like being under surveillance and it's just eerie in there
Manny especially disliking Boone's wife gets a lot of subtext when you realize that he's gay and might have been jealous of her more than anything.
Yup if you play as a man and take the confirmed bachelor perk you can flirt with him.
@@rickeyc5920 nice
Wow. I never knew that.
"Degenerates like him deserve the cross." -Caesar's Legion
@@Serahpin yeah, that's the point. Fascism is goofy and makes the world a bland, boring place where individuality is punished instead of celebrated.
54:15 I always thought Motor-Runner was creepy because of the way that line was delivered, completely uncaring and casual about killing all of them
It definitely fits his character of being a drugged up psycho
I don't think that's the unnerving part. I always feel very uncomfortable when he mentions how they just let the Fiends in. These naive dwellers just trading with random traders and unfortunately letting the wrong people in. Very sad.
@@exoticmaterials2695 "Hey wanna trade? :)"
"Haha chainsaw go yeah we killed them."
First review i ever absorbed about this game.
“This is Raul. I only have one thing to say about Raul: Never stop being awesome.”
Whatever you say boss
To hell with Machette Raul was Danny Trejo's best role.
Raul was always my favorite companion in any fallout game. His story is so interesting and his commentary is some of the best writing I’ve ever seen in any game.
@Will DeMarco preach
@@Walamonga1313 I'd add Cass to that list as well, guess I have a soft spot for tough women who would berate me lol. Arcade was fun too, knowing his VA is Zachary Levi is also a pleasant surprise.
Seriously all of the companions in NV are just very well-written and lovable
“My favorite are Boone, Raul and Veronica, but I can also see a case for Cass, Arcade, and Lily.”
ED-E & Rex: *sad robot noises*
Interesting note on Archimedes II Weapon: Archimedes was a mathematician and inventor in the times of Ancient Rome, said to have used mirrors to create a heat ray which incinerated enemy ships, and they did create large cranes capable of lifting boats out of the water and storing them within the city walls.
No fucking way thats the coolest shit ever
So it belongs to Caesar. Got it. Now get on the cross.
*Ancient Greece
@@PaganMinDNW he lived arguably more in the time of the rise of Rome on Sicily, than in the era of Panhellenism, so ancient Rome is the more fitting term.
By all accounts, the "Archimedes Death-Ray" is a myth that didn't actually exist. Although it would have been awesome and reflecting light with mirrors could conceivably cause sailors to become distracted by the glare, it would not actually be capable of burning anything.
Ironically, I Forgot to Remember to Forget is the only quest I forgot existed
I want to forget this sentence
Wat
@@endorneyodera4366 he forgot that the quest "I Forgot to Remember to Forget" existed.
I don't think that's ironic, that's just a convoluted way of putting "I forgot something that someone else wanted to forget"
@@witzig89 he (Boone) forgot to find a way to forget the horrible death of his 2 babies. So he's always depressed.
I can't bring myself to let Lily forget her grandkids, ever.
There is no good ending for Lily, she either dies, forgets her grandchildren, remains confused, or becomes a monster.
That's why i let her make her own decision. She decided it was best to only take half the medicine long before meeting the courier, so I honored that and told her she should continue to take half.
The games main theme is about people obsessing over and trying to rebuild the past so I feel as though it’s appropriate that Lily takes her meds and forgets her grandchildren
I know what you mean I let her keep taking only half her meds. I just couldn't make her take them all
I let her forget as sad as it may be the kids are long gone and she has the opportunity to move on
You kinda forget about just how many big name actors actually voice characters in this game (Zachary Levi, Danny Trejo, Matthew Perry and Ron Perlman just to name a few) and how most of them stick out more than the usual cast of Bethesda voice actors.
Yeah I remember first hearing Raul’s voice and thinking, “man he really sounds like Danny Trejo. I doubt they actually hired hired him tho, probably some wanna-be” and was pleasantly surprised when looking at the behind the scenes video on NV
I mean, Fallout 3 had Liam Neeson, Odette Annabelle, Malcom McDowell and Erik Tood Dellums, who all again stand out from the usual cast of Bethesda voice actors, not to mention also having Ron Perlman, and arguably are much bigger names in the entertainment industry as a whole, even back in 2008 (save Odette), but I'm going to guess you didn't make this comment to praise having different voice acting to stand out from the crowd and instead are using it to say Obsidian did a better job because they...also have celebrities...and Obsidian is good and Bethesda is bad...even though on the voice acting front they're...pretty damn even, considering four celebs and a host of stilted in-house people doing multiple voices.
I guess we'll circle back next week when we talk about how Obsidian's Leather Armor model looks better than Bethesda despite the fact that...it's the same model...just different lighting...
@@dathunderman4 Fallout has always had real actors doing voices pretty much everyone in FO2 is a known actor but the most notable are probably Ron Perlman and Michael Dorn (Worf)
And the guy that played Odo in Star Trek DS9 Rene-something-something cuz I cannot spell it correctly. He voices Mister House.
Ik Ron Perlman is the opening and ending narrator. But I swear to God they had him voice Ramos from the Brotherhood of steel when he speaks over the intercom. I can't find anything to back this up, but when I heard the voice on the intercom I was like "oh sick, Perlman" and was super confused when I got down and Ramos sounded completely different
I love Raul, especially with myself being mexican. One of the few Mexican inclusions that actually feels genuine. Whenever I hear him talk, it feels like talking to my grandpa talk
It's Danny Trejo talking, so, I mean
@@dominicisnthere9687 no way that's Danny
@@NicofTime... Yes way. It's him :P
@@NicofTime... yes it is, boss. Check the Wiki
@rudedude83 gotta love em
The only reason the legion attacked you in nipton is cause you had Boone with you. Since you know... he’s NCR. If you go alone or with anyone else they talk to you
Are you sure? I was on a save where I had done everything for the NCR and basically "failed" the Beware the Wrath of Caesar quest. I'm pretty sure I was hated by them at this point
@@TheSaltFactory if you were hated I'm sure you would've had the same effect, so either way you were destined to miss that on this playthrough.
@@TheSaltFactory Because that's beyond the turning point yes they attacked but at any point in time having Boone as an active companion, even if he waits anywhere, will cause them to be hostile.
Boone was my active companion and even though I had him wait at Camp Golf I was immediately attacked upon getting within range of Vulpes Inculta the whole Mojave away. Reloaded, dismissed him and could converse with Vulpes without bloodshed.
Yeah it because of Boone, i ones nuked the legion(Lonesome Road DLC) before i meet up with Vulpes, putting the legion opinion of me at absolut lowest possible. And Vulpes was still willing to talk, rather then opening fire.
@@Human-hs8sp actually Legion wont be hostile if Boon asked to wait out of their sight
The grannies are a Monty python reference because you have wild wasteland perk active
Raul is my favourite companion in any game. Never failed to make me laugh, I remember first time playing as a sneaky boi and his voice line "I hope my crinckling knees won't give us away boss" got me so hard
Lol
Boone is the saddest companion. The one I feel for the most. Veronica and her relationship with Christine in the Sierra Madre is a close second. Very, very sad, very compelling writing from Obsidian.
Nah, Raul's backstory is way more fucked up: Watch everyone you love and care die around you horribly while your skin is slowly rotting off.
Boone feels as if part of him is gone. He were part of a massacre, his wife was enslaved and he had to go save her the only way he could think of - by shooting her, etc.
I always liked to take him to Bitter Springs and help him confront those inner demons of his as well as do something good in that place - help him redeem himself, even if just a little bit.
Lilly is... well I always felt it was best to help her keep her mind clearer and free from Leo... but after getting a rather sad ending about it for her a few times, I actually began to think that I was pushing my own preferences to what SHE should do.... and eventually figured she was only doing half-measures of what she truly wanted - to not forget her grandkids what so ever.... so I ended up deciding to recommend she stop taking her meds since it seemed more like she just needed someone to listen to what she wanted and needed and give some agreement.
If it was the regular, normal world and not a post-apocalyptic wild west, then I might have been more for the opinion of having her take her meds in full, since there'd be a whole 'therapy' format, a constant chance for Lilly to see her grandkids, to be retold things, etc.
But that's not really possible so.... I just felt it was better to respect Lilly's own wishes.
If Clark from honest hearts was a actual companion he would take the whole cake
Raul lost the love of his life not once but twice
@@vahlen5281 Raul is the best hands down. He's cool rebuild perk. A companion that does seem to trust you and lookout for you entirely. Earning his back stories and friendship seems meaningful.
*Lobotomy markers*
Well that is an apt description of modern quest markers if ever there was one.
Boon's "sidequest" is some Apocalypse Now levels of storytelling.
The horror…
"No matter how Obvious something is, someone is going to miss it"
Like how I just found out Novac is named after "No Vacancy" sign lol
When the videos about side quests and DLC's are each longer than the video about the actual main game you know they put love into that game
I love this game, but this really isn't a factor - Skyrim also has a 95% focus on sidecontent and most of it is... meh
This literally has nothing to do with love to the game.
Ed-e normal: ok cool robot nice
Ed-e lonesome road: OH YEAHHHHH
Little me playing FNV: "hmm yes Caesar big words"
Me after *reading theory: D I A L E C T I C S*
Fuck I read that as "dianetics" as in the scientology thing... a thinly veiled version of scientology doing something bizarre would be a good dlc.
@@LoLotov That already happened in Fallout 2.
@@majora4prez543 nice, I knew I ought to play the originals.
Little me playing fnv: World War II American army men, yeah! I'm black, stop Slavery, Yeah! Legion wears red. EVIL!
Adult me: I literally have a Caesar's Legion flag in my home. Unity, and the Oneness of mankind is what's going to bring us out of this apocalyptic hell. We've seen Humanity try to work it out on their own... let people live independently. And we see what greed does. No more.
One nation. One idenity. Global cooperation. Now... Come on you apes! Grab your ballistic fists! You wanna live forever?
*C O M R A D E S*
I think it really highlights the differences in the ncr and legion in how they use the courier. The ncr needs the courier because he does his own thing and isn't weighed down by their own bureaucracy. The legion just needs you cause you have the trust (or lack of distrust) of the other factions
The Legion also needs the Courier to perform emergency surgery on their God-King to save his life, because they shun modern medicine and have no real doctors (except when their leader needs it, I guess), so maybe they aren't the competent and brutally efficient faction you think ^^
Without the Courier the Legion would have literally lost their leader to a curable disease, and the NCR wouldn't have had to do anything about it - the only question would be how much damage the Legion could do to the Mojave before falling apart (probably a lot). The NCR on the other hand just keeps chugging along like it always does, even after the death of their president and their top general.
The fact that basically everyone in game makes a point to clarify that the Mojave NCR are severely underfunded AND understaffed, kinda speaks volumes to just how massive a behemoth the entirety of the NCR is - The only reason the Legion even stands a chance, is because the NCR is so stretched thin, trying to hold on to far too much territory without the manpower or resources to keep it.
There's still so much you can touch on with this game. Raul is voiced by Danny Trejo and Lily's final choice could either help cure her from Leo but forget about her grandson forever or you can let her succumb to Leo but at least hold on to what little memories she has left.
Lily’s ending is absolutely one of the most difficult choices in this game.
53:50 lol, I actually like the voice acting motor runners got. Makes him seem like he doesn’t give a single shit about murdering a vault full of people.
"This game belongs on a cross."
If only because it's a martyr of good storytelling.
Apparently the Legion in particular suffered the most from the time crunch cuts. There was going to be more content on the other side of the Colorado, allowing you a glimpse at a 'stable' area under the Legion. End of the day though, the Legion's efficiency is only matched by it's lack of humanity. I think both the Courier in his ability to talk down Lanius, and a certain other courier you'll meet on the Lonesome Road, says it best: the system that the Legion works on only lasts until they either lose Ceaser, or they reach the Pacific. At which point, any stability and protection will be lost unto anarchy.
Gratuitous Lurking makes your wonder what this masterpiece could have been if the dev team was given and adequate amount of time...
Cold, Cold Heart is intended to be completed early on, no matter what the player thinks of the legion, its literally the intended introdutction to the Legion
Where can i get the quest
I was feeling bad about being told to kill the Brotherhood by House, so I went to get Veronica's quest out of the way and convince her to leave. I did not expect the Brotherhood to murder a bunch of doctors over this, but boy did it remove any guilt I was feeling over following House's request and happily slapped that self destruct button straight after.
Besides, who needs power armour when you can have that sweet Desert Ranger gear from Honest Hearts?
I mean, you don't get Brotherhood infamy for killing those four chucklefucks, so maybe their visit to the Followers wasn't sanctioned by the rest of the Brotherhood.
Looking at the wiki: shockingly Fantastics Inteligence is 6 and his charisma is 2 also 7 Luck.
He got his job on luck alone. He also ins't very charismatic and fail to understand higher social functions.
@@Cloud_Seeker he says he knows what things are but not the effect it's gonna have.
That's literally what a scientist is IRL. XD
@@fabiomoreira1506 Not really. Fact is he doesn't know what things he work with even are. He knows that if you jam a fork into that socket it produce sparks. He also thinks the intercom system is the most important station because it is the biggest station. A real scientists do actually know what things are and make models to predict what will happen in the future. Not just doing random shit and see the results.
@@Cloud_Seeker a scientist knows what grapes are and what alcohol is but maybe not know how to make wine.
Fabio Moreira
scientists don’t make wine though
You know that one place near the Abandoned BoS Bunker you passed, where a whole bunch of landmines were? Well, there actually used to be wounded NCR soldiers in those pits, with landmines put near them! They'd often be missing limbs, but were left alive (most likely as bait by the Legion to kill those who try to rescue wounded NCR soldiers on the field).
All of this was initially part of the game itself, and I think it really shows the cruelty of the Legion and just how they operate. It's not in the game anymore, not ever since they added the Sierra Madre Casino DLC (not sure if it affected the vanilla game as well, or only applies when the DLC is actually loaded in).
There are some mods that bring it back, and it's really cool. The NCR soldiers stuck there have special lines that you can't find anywhere else in the game.
Unfortunately they are deleted forever. Regardless of if the DLC is loaded or not
I remember that from my unpatched version of the game I played on the Xbox when I was overseas. There are still a couple of NCR bodies out there with mines under them though.
@@HaqqAttak yea thing about it is that the they would be alive and tell you to not come closer
@@HaqqAttak I mean if it was unpatched that is why they were still there. But unfortunately if you have the patch for dead money without the DLC they are still gone
Theres a mod that restores it
I do absolutely adore how by playing side quests and immersing yourself in this world you're able to truly grasp the complex socio-political positives and negatives the NCR and Legion bring, truly awesome.
Now imagine if they had more time and were able to include some legion land. The idea was to include a few legion towns but they didn't have any time. This is the only downside of the game: legion are complete outsiders to land we players only see the army camp. I think they were going to show people that legion lands had stability and prosperity but the cost of it was on people who are enslaved and women who are a little more than birth giving animals in the land.
"This video is brought to you by the existence of slot machines."
Lmao
There is a reason New Vegas is my favorite game of all time. The writing is just sublime, despite the technical issues and rushedness of development.
The two things you dont like are directly because of jealous Bethesda.
you should play the originals if you want to rekindle that magic. they were made by most of the people who went on to make New Vegas. the out of date graphics and isometric gameplay turned me off for years, but i recently played through them both and MY GOD i was missing out...seriously give them a try because they along with Planescape Torment (same guys made it) are some of the best written games of all time. if you're a fan of NV's quests, dialogue, and player agency you absolutely must play these games. might take a bit to get used to the gameplay but reading a little about stats and combat online can help. either way i figured it out pretty quickly even with no prior iso-RPG experience.
Tyler Grant by the same coin Bethesda whom gained the majority of their New Era fans from fallout 3 doesn’t get the glory it has today without the Fallout NV devs since most of them came from the studio that made the OG fallout games (they’ve since moved on though)
@@Bassist-Beneath The originals weren't made by the same guys who made New Vegas. Guys who made the original Fallouts were more heavily involved in The Outer worlds, they're a separate team inside Obsidian. The team that made Fallout New Vegas are the same guys who made Pillars of Eternity.
The guys who made the original Fallouts aren't exactly the same guys who made Planescape either. These other games aren't very similar to Fallout New Vegas.
Planescape is nothing like FO1, 2 or NV and New Vegas is barely anything like FO1 and 2.
@@poggies7639 No they didn't move on. People associate Chris Avellone with the original Fallouts even though he wasn't a lead on those two games. The guys who made the Outer worlds are the same leads who worked on FO1, 2 and Vampire the Masquerade bloodlines.
ED-E’s character gets more interesting if you do the final dlc. He has a part in Lonesome Road and the dlcs are great in general.
That's another ED-E, not the one you meet in Primm.
@@0inzrt the ED-E in lonesome road is a copy of the ED-E.
Mr. Hilter It is a physically different ED-E, but the Lonesome Road one has all its memories of the courier.
@@0inzrt In story terms it's meant to be the same ED-E, it being a copy is the result of the game having to compensate for the fact you might have killed or never encountered/repaired ED-E. If this game were made by Bethesda they would have just made him essential and forced him on you a la F4's Dogmeat.
They seem to be linked but are ultimately two different entities
love the little Raul animation, it was cute as it was sad and tragic :(
That nipton lottery story has taken a lot of inspiration from the roman military punishment (decimation)
I didn't realize that you had the Wild Wasteland trait on until Maud's Muggers showed up.
I wish arcade Gannons quest didn't break so easily I liked having him as a follower
I've tried like 3 times to do it without killing house and I can't
Shadow Darkraven I typically don’t travel with companions anyway-except in the classic Fallouts-but Arcade is a must, even if only for long enough to exhaust his dialogue and do his quest. He’s great.
Fuck I know right?!?! It's broken 😭 on me 4 out of 6 runs, and he's definitely in my top 3 favorite's!
JMM you need to get to the house always wins 5 before he triggers it
I've had to force start his quest so many times, it sucks. New Vegas is my favorite game of all time, but man I yearn for the timeline where Obsidian got like another year to implement cut content and polish the product up. Outer Worlds proved that they can put out an almost completely bug free game if they're given the time to do so.
I remember my first time doing Boone's quest while playing a murder hobo - I literally killed every living creature (and functional robot) that I saw that didn't postpone their demise by immediately making me like them, usually by asking me to help them kill something the moment they notice me. So I meet Boone and he asks me to help him kill someone and I'm like "all right, sure! Someone did a thing to you. I figure out who and let you shoot them, and you give me things. Cool."
I proceed through town stealing everything that I could fit in my pockets while I alternately chatted up and shanked random citizens. After getting bored, I took my least favorite still-living schmuck, Jenny, out to die. After she was dead I headed back up to the sniper post fully planning on going "yeah I don't actually know who did it" and killing him when I notice that one of the dialogue options was to give him something. I select that one - giving him a random paper from my pocket as "proof" as far as I was concerned - and he just goes "Man that's some perfect evidence! Thanks for putting my mind at ease!" so I snatch the paper back and actually read the dang thing for the first time and it was the flipping bill of sale that I'd taken without paying any attention to due to its 0 weight.
I was still laughing when I left the by-that-point 100% devoid of life town behind.
the one frame of Swanick laughing gives me life
“sometimes i make up little stories in my head about what the numbers mean”
so did agent hudson, mate.
Hudson never saw/heard the numbers iirc, it was Mason. I know I'm two years late and all but, yeah...
Fallout: New Vegas is at the top of my favorite games list. Out of everything that has been done recently with this franchise, Obsidian knocked it out of the park in just a single year. They then proceeded to wrap a whole shed load of things up in the DLCs which are all stellar as well. I'm always happy to see another person enjoying this game and appreciating just how much of a miracle that this even exists.
The fact that especially two of the DLCs (Dead Money and Lonesome Road) could manage to tell a compelling meta-narrative, in almost the same quality as Undertale's, is so incredibly impressive. And Old World Blues just told a genuinely interessting story.
Oh and Honest Hearts was good too, hah
@@sweetwheatsy out of all the DLC, Honest Hearts was the weakest in terms of content. However the narrative brought us one of the best background characters in the Survivalist and expanded upon one of the baddest, toughest characters in the series next to the player, Joshua Graham.
It's a shame that another game hasn't come along that wows me as much as New Vegas does in terms of a connective narrative.
I have fond memories of shooting the shit with others on the F:NV boards on GameFAQs about what the next DLC would hold. Where we were going to access it and what kind of narrative it would be.
@@Sterl500 Indeed, agreed. And true, the Survivalist was quite the authentic and grand tale, and Joshua is sumthin' else.
As you said - now it might be nostalgia speaking a lil bit, but I really hope to play something that manages the same amount of interconnectivity as that gam at some point. We'll see.
@@Sterl500 The Survivalist's story in Honest Hearts is arguably the best in the entire game. I'd say that the DLC itself is arguably the weakest DLC, and that really says all you need to know: the best part of the weakest DLC of this game is better than anything you'll find in at least 99% of all games.
Try Witcher 3 man
1:06:06
To Caesar’s defense, he’s less intelligent than a molerat
To his defense it’s a gamble , mr house knows his only card to win is you the courier , he has a chance of 50 % high but low , but sadly I only have 1 house gameplay , and 5 legion games plays , (yes man : 8 , ncr : 0)
@@civilizedhuman7875 House has recently become my go-to
@@JXEditor yay , I actually have 5 house gameplays.
shame he missed out on the van graf questline, their questline was amazing especially the bouncer part.
I don't wanna kill Cass :(
@@shastealyomealyou don’t gotta, you do the quests right up until they ask you for Cassie then ignore that.
ED-E was supposed to have more of a story to him, however it didn't make it into the vanilla game. Lonesome Road extends ED-E's story, it's not great but it's a thing.
Not great?
@@lordeverett5642 ED-E's story is probably what they were referring to, not the DLC as a whole.
@@Leotheleprachaun fair
Having him and Arcade as companions qt the same time trigger some exclusive dialog from Arcade
tfw Bitter Root's backstory is darker than everything in Fallout 4 combined.
It's great how even a minor character like this has such a fleshed out story. Just another reason the game is great. Same goes for Corporal Betsy.
Sounds like you haven’t played fallout 4 lmao
@@datfurrylemon sounds like bethesdrone would say
@@datfurrylemon Tell us then, what's so dark about Fallout 4 compared to anything in New Vegas?
@@datfurrylemon example?
Actually in Vault 11 the overseer position wasn't supposed to end in death, the vault residents were supposed to just pick any denizen. When the first Overseer told the residents this they sacrificed him, and then for some fucking reason decided to link the position of overseer with the sacrifice (you find this out in the final overseer's speech notes). Because obviously nothing could go wrong with giving the most hated person in your community overseer-level authority to the vault-tech systems and one year of bitterness with which to use it in. And apparently nothing did go wrong until the very end! Or at least it was never mentioned.
It would be a sinister Vault-Tech experiment if overseer=sacrifice was the premise, but as presented it's just a bafflingly insane decision made by people that were not, so far as we know, pumped mind-altering substances.
Well, elections suck - who'd want to do it twice; once for an Overseer and then for the Sacrifice? And what if the ballots got mixed up?
This way is just more efficient. And nothing bad every came from improving efficiency. Right?
Just wanted to say that your entire Bethesda games in retrospect series is keeping me going through this quarantine.
That Vault 11 story is amazing!
Woah what a coincidence, found you on this video too! Once again, I love your vids, and keep up the excellent work!!!
You shouldn't check the lore on all the vaults, Vaultech makes Umbrella look like peewee's fun house in how underhandedly evil they are
That story made me want to stab the CEO of Vault Tec in the neck.
The vaults are pretty rough tbh
@Egg T fingers crossed
Just a heads up, but with Elder MacNamara in control of the BoS gives a completely different ending not only for them but for Veronica not becoming disillusioned with them.
Indeed. McNamara might've made some terrible miscalculations, but he offers the best ending for his faction. His quest to join his faction is also better than the one his counterpart offers in my opinion.
14:27 The fact that Arcade Gannon has the Confirmed Batchelor perk?
Never forget what REAL fallout quests are like. Beyond killing and fetching, this is questing
If there was one thing I could have, I would want it to be the legion being fleshed out more
If obsidian had more time they would of been but due to time constraints they axed alot of planned content some of which came back in dlcs like lonesome road.
They wanted to but it was cut and/or unfinished
@Rememberingthefireballs I mean even if you do look deeper into them they’re still very hard to agree with.
@@californiansniper2133 they give the one thing NCR doesn t. safety. shady sands still has raiders. in legion lands you can go without a guard from town to town with no problem.
@@californiansniper2133 yes their terrible but like he sold, their stuff is safe, Cass talks about trading in legion territory and a few others and no drug dealing either
there's another option for cold, cold, heart where you can say 'For Caesar!" and attack him which still finishes the quest, but something fun to do.
One overlooked question, who is supplying all the "gel" for the spiked hair styles?
It's called 'cum'
@@Nereosis16 Thanks I hate it!
There's lots of glue in the wastes.
Animal fat
Boone and Veronica are two of my favorite companions.
RIP my dude he missed "Oh Baby"
Okay, this is probably just me. But salt sounds like a young version of Doc Mitchell.
I totally get what you’re saying. It’s in the vowels and the timbre, I think.
D. E. He also sounds like a deeper voiced Arcade Cannon
I agree
When I first heard his voice, I immediatly thought he sounded like Pikasprey, just a bit deeper, maybe?
Never felt better Bill.
I think in the case of Nipton the Legion presence is more terrifying than the massacre itself. The I-15 is blocked due to the Deathclaws, so the only route to send supply and reinforcement is trough Nipton pass, wich is now enemy territory.
"Look kid, I skimmed over the wikipedia article for Haegel, I know what I'm talking about." - Ceaser.
I doubt you'll see this, but when you play the DLC, I find it best to play them in a certain order. You get the most out of the story and they are all linked together one way or another (look for Holotapes and terminals.)
I would say
1. Honest Hearts
2. Old World Blues
3. Dead Money
4. Lonesome Road
Love hearing your opinion on one of my favorite games ever, keep up the good work
Thanks for the input dude! I don't know which order I'm gonna go with yet, but I'm gonna search around and figure out what I think the best way to go will be and then explain my reasoning
I know it's been waaaaay too late but Old World Blues makes no sense to play before Dead Money, since you can get modifications to become immune to poison and such... Which Dead Money has.
If you're playing it chronologically, it's Honest Hearts, Dead Money, OWB and Road. Since that's actually how Ulysses traveled the wasteland too.
His story is told by the Boss in Honest heart (when Ulysses was still a proletariat), he then skipped out of legion and decided to travel and found the sierra madre.
He traveled to big my and stumbled upon Elijah and told him about Dead money and sent him to his death, then Ulysses saved Christine and she decided to hunt elijah again.
After which Ulysses finally ends in Hopeville in Lonesome Road, where he waits for you .
@@cgijokerman5787 I thought it was: Dead Money, Honest Hearts, OWB, Lonesome Road
@@ast3rickk31 that’s usually the route I go. Since that’s the order they were released in
Thank you I will use this in my playthrough
Can't wait for you to review the DLC's
usually how long after a video about the main game it takes for a video about the DLCs to be uploaded?
Old World Blues. That is all
@@lucasbiermann257 can't say for certain. It will probably be sometime soon, since he uploaded his dlc evaluation for fallout 3 within a month of the game review
Omegon he hasn’t played any dlc besides dead money so it’ll be a shitshow of missed content
there is a lot of info about the companion ed-e, a little about veronica as well as stuff on vault 22 in the dlc's that's relevant to this video
Arcade, and Boone are my favorite by far. They've got some good stories and are just good characters
You missed one part of vault 34. Everyone's favorite bald "ghoul," Chris, came from 34. He worked in the reactors and assumed his constant exposure was what turned him into a "ghoul."
''Monster of the East huh? Well, i've got the monster of the West right here in my holster.''
Seriously, that is a great line. Makes me wish I was back in the Cold War with a Dirty Harry magnum.
no you dont. but its nice to dream.
".44 magnum, most powerful handgun in the world"
Or something like that
It's always a great sign when it's actually impossible to complete all of the quests in a video game in one playthrough.
New Vegas really is a game that deserves a remake. Imagine how epic it could be if it had the graphics of red dead for example
A remake or remaster would be awesome. But I would never trust Bethesda with this or even a sequel.
If you're doing a Legion run you really really need to have the Legion Quests Expanded mod, iIt adds loads of alternate and expanded options for sidequests that previously you couldn't complete in the Legion's favour, re-uses a ton of cut-content and makes it more fun to play than otherwise.
Better quantity over quality than radiant quests IMO
Any day
Radiant have their place, but there needs to be some care put into the before and after parts of it. If you have time to make an NPC respond to most the names in the English dictionary including 'assface', you got time to put care into who's giving you your bounties and some unique dialogue branches regarding targets.
I prefer a game that I can do all the quests in 5 hours but I truly enjoyed them plus I can replay and chose a different route even if the end is not that different when compared to a game that I can 100% in 200 hours but only remember of like 10 hours that I enjoyed( be it the fact that I am learning about the world, I did something cool or something cool and random happened).
radiant quests would be nice if they increased the chance of random events happening while you are doing them. like meeting a companion that you would only meet if you did radiant quests because they are also good in nature and keep just helping people by doing what they ask of them.
Did you mean quality over quantity? Radiant quests offer quantity so your sentence doesn't make sense.
@@FinneousPJ1 Yeah your the only person to point that out lol
God Bless, I have a bout of insomnia and you're literally saving me from boredom
if you really have insomnia then watching videos that makes you concentrate on what is being said is the worst thing to do. boredom is a different thing.
Man me too I don't wish insomnia on anyone it is hell
My favorite quote in the game is probably "they burned his ass on a pile of tires" from Boxcars in Nipton. Just the way it rolls off his tongue, and how matter of factly it is.
43:18
Minor correction on the lore of Camp Searchlight
The nuclear waste was stored in and around the fire station on the day the bombs dropped. It was a convoy on its way for disposal before it was forced to stop at the town cause of the bomb.
Later the NCR took the town as a base.
Vulpes Inculta sent a pair of Frumentarii. The legions spies/infiltration units to observe the area and look for weaknesses in the patrols. He then sent a few legionnaires in to open the waste containers. Killing them instantly hence you see their bodies right at the container and contaminating the entire area and pushing back the NCRs reach in the area allowing the Legion to land and set up base at Cottonwood Cove without resistance from the NCR
"The last thing you never see" is still the coolest thing ever
5:08 I think she sold them to the Legion not the NCR
Fuck, I caught that before and I meant to correct it. Welp
I'm having to isolate due to covid and your channel is really getting me through this. Keep up the great work mate
Fantastic video, insight, organization, time stamps, and information. Subbed
These have literally been the only 1+ hour long videos I've watched in their entirety on CZcams. I'm glad I found your channel. It's truly something S.P.E.C.I.A.L.
Speaking of Boone, I really wish there was a Legion Slave Auction with 100s of soldiers in game. Would be the most fun rampage ever, but there’s no way most engines could handle it.
The art of Veronica at 1:00:21-1:00:42 looks so cute and I love it
37:50 Totally forgot Chief Hanlon, voiced by the legendary Kris Kristofferson. I can almost hear the dialogue.
One thing I do think should be noted, ED-E does get a bit more development in the Lonesome Road DLC. Really does a good job of fleshing out the character, as well as introducing Ulysses, one of the best characters in all of Fallout, in my opinion.
The White Wash is definitely one of the more moral quests. If you help Anderson yes Westside stays independent and continues getting water. But that also means White's murder does not get justice and the NCR Sharecroppers all leave back west since they can't make the NCR's crop quotas with the lack of water. So you have to choose what's more important. The small community of Westside? Or the NCR farmers far from home trying to make a living growing crops? It's up to you to decide.
Your memes are so on point. I love your content very much. Please keep it up!