Mastering Sunny 16 - Tips and Tricks!
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Today we discuss Mastering Sunny 16 so you can shoot your film cameras without light meters! By learning how to shoot film without a light meter you can train your eyes to read light and today I go over 4 different lessons to help you master the technique. This video is packed with information going into detail about stops of light and how to expose your film for better results. This video basically has everything you need to know about shooting film without a light meter. Grab some coffee, grab your camera and get comfortable because it's time to MASTER Sunny 16!
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Light Meter Backup - 1:26
Understanding Stops of Light - 3:58
Overexposing for safety - 8:51
Documenting Settings 10:24
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I watched both Sunny Sixteen videos. Excellent. After all these years, I finally understand, thanks to your clear and simple instruction. Nice presentation.
One of the best videos I have seen in CZcams related to photography basics! Great presentation skills!!
This is probably one of the most helpful videos for beginners here on youtube, thank you so much!
Thanks for the video! I never thought I could "meter with my eyes", but I found that after shooting many rolls through my OM-1, it can become second nature, with many different types of film.
This was really helpful! I would love if you could do another video on why you would want to use certain ISO, shutter speeds, and aperture for artist effects?
Your first video about sunny 16 really helped me alot when i first started shooting film 2 months ago. and this video has helped even more. Great stuff pal. Keep it up. Stay safe.
Hell yea man
Glad it’s helping!
@@KingJvpes Sure is.
Do you still shoot film?
Great to see new generation teaches the world about old cameras, love it 😍
Wow!! Both your videos on Sunny 16 have helped me tremendously! Thank you so much! Your other videos are awesome as well! You’re an awesome teacher!😊
as soon as the lockdown finishes in my area I’m gonna go out and practice it all!! Thanks 💔
I am just starting with SLRs and this was incredibly helpful! Thank you so much. Cheers.
This really helped out. Just inherited My late uncle's Canon AT-1 I have admired for years.Unsure on Matching the Aperture and Shutter speed. just wanted to say Thank You Man. Keep it up.
I have been using sunny 16 rule since I bought my analog camera 📸 because the light meter doesn't work. The result has been amazing. The best way to understand and learn how photography works. Film photography helps me to improve my composition.
Hey! Just wanted to say thank you, your explanations where super useful and clear to me!
THANK YOU FOR THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 this is the kinda content I’m lookin for
Epic and thanks, this has helped me massively as Ive shot a few films and messed it up! cheers
This was super helpful! I got a Nikon FM10 for Christmas so I’m tryna educate myself before I go out there lol.
New subscriber here!
Great vid ese! Super precise and informative. Keep it up!
Thank you, this really helps me in understanding and using the Sunny 6 rule.
Best explanation EVER for Sunny 16!
As a beginner who doesn’t really have the budget for a light meter who also wants to learn all manual this is so helpful!
Very helpful video. You’re great at explaining this. Thanks for the tips 🙏🤩
You just described the story of my life....always compensating for something. #CanonGang!!!
great thanks for this video lots of information . i did screen shot this one just like the last one . its handy to have on your phone for reference .
this was SO informative, thank you.
Lol I took a screenshot of the video and immediately after he goes “screenshot this video and save it on your phone”
Thanks for such clear explanation. It is really helpful :)
Amazing video man, thank you so much!
Maan yous a real one for all this gold🙏🏻
I've been doing digital photography for about 8 years, now a few days ago I ordered an analog film camera to try something new. And before it‘s even arrived I‘ve already learned so much more about photography. Nobody teaches you something like this when you start with digital photography, no book nor video.
I finally understand this, thanks!
This chart reminds me of a sneaky trick my cinematography tutor mentioned a student did with Ansel Adams' "Exposure Zones" and F/T-stops. Apparently this guy drew both lines on the insides of his forearms, and would make adjustments by shifting one arm up against the other.
Niiiice video🤩👍! Thanks a lot for this useful information!
A note worth mentioning is that stops of light in terms of shutter speed moves in geometrical scale as it is simply measuring time, it just doubles or halves, so the math is pretty simple if you need to count stops in one direction or another. Now, the Aperture moves in logarithmic scale so the numbers are quite less intuitive... bottom line is, just memorize the F-stop scale.
Thanks ! It was super helpful !
Here is a very important aspect not covered in this video though. For those looking to be more creative with their photography - you need an ND Filter. So for example instead of compensating apertures and shutter - as KingJ illustrates in the video - if you want to use a particular aperture AND shutter speed combination, you are now using an ND filter and compensating the stops in that accordingly!
Cheers for these videos : I have bought a Leica M1 for fun, no lightmeter nor rangefinder : I'll have to train for mastering for both sunny16 AND zone focusing :D
And your videos have helped me a lot to understand how to get over the inherent limitations of that Leica model :-)
Great vid! ❤
Thank you for this!
I have been learning so much from your Channel. You’re doing amazing work. !
yo ur vid is like super easy to understand
thank u so much bro
here is a like hehe
I would be interested in a video explaining sunny 16 with more specific lighting situations (i know to use the rule but some situations make my head ache ^^ like shooting a portrait on a bright day but the subject is shaded under the branches of a tree.. how to have his head well exposed without everything else burned.
I guess a lot comes with experience when shooting film. But to maintain costs and frustration as low as possible I‘d suggest using a light meter.
Excellent !
Nice thank you po! Nakatulong po to sakin.
For quick feedback when learning manual photography, use the M mode and Sunny 16 on your DSLR. Your settings will be saved for viewing in your photo editor. It's faster and cheaper than burning several rolls of film and waiting on the mail.
Helpful tips and tricks
A great way practice is to set the ISO on your digital camera to your preferred film's ISO, say Porta 400, then set your shutter speed at 500, then practice the sunny 16 rules. If you have a Fuji it will feel more film like but any decent digital camera works. Your electronic viewfinder will provide instant feedback...include the histogram or just eyeball the exposure. Once you feel you have mastered that exercise, load up a roll of film, and have at it!
Dude, you're awesome
Thanks. Literally bought a minolta two days ago so this is very helpful!!
Early! For the first time in a while
The Sunny 16 rule doesn’t always work. It really depends on where you are. If you’re in a consistently sunny place, it’ll work a lot of the time. However, if you’re in London or Paris (or any other city that isn’t well lit/sunny most of the time), then this isn’t a good rule. It’s also not a good rule if you’re in a dark room, with artificial light. Sunny 16 is for STREET photography. If you’re in a dark room, let’s say at a family event, it’s not street photography. The settings will need to be different for that. I’m currently sitting in my living room, at night, with my light on, and applying this rule just causes the light meter to say that the image will be very underexposed. Keep this in mind when using this rule…
Dude I always enjoy your tutorials! You explain things in a sensible manner!
I'm loving your videos and finding them very helpful as a beginner. But also bruh can you change the battery in your smoke detector? lol
Love this video!!! What do you do if your camera doesn’t go past 1/1000 and you need to drop your Aperture but you can equal it? My Pentax k1000 only goes up to 1/1000 and if I want to drop the aperture to F8 it won’t be equal..
Thank you, need this cos my camera (canon p) doesn't have a light meter
Thank you for making this method clearly and helping me with ine of my loves of life...photography. I hope to shoot some amazing shots and be a continual learner as I just subscribed. Is there any reason why this video is about film photography instead of digital?
Great video, thank you. I have always used Sunny 16 with my OM1 as the light meter doesn’t work. I always wondered how I could vary the settings while still using Sunny 16. I feel like my brain panics when it sees numbers so this has really helped me understand how it is possible! Thanks again.
Good follow up video from the channel that first taught me Sunny 16!
Out of curiosity, was your book a limited edition run, the one about sidewalks? If yes, will you ever re-print ?
Just bought a Petri 7S film camera and I’ve also purchased Fuji Superia 400 film , I can’t wait to go out and practice shooting , would you be able to give me any pointers with this camera in particular 😂🙈 I know it’s a long shot but are there any videos you have or recommend for this type of camera 🥰✨ any pointers would be appreciated, also shooting landscape in Scotland and advice for this aswell would be greatly appreciated 😂👏🏻💖
I just picked up an olympus m-1 with a sus light meter so ye im about to go out tomorrow with this info. Film is expensive lmao
Love the dog, Aussie blue heeler by the looks. My concerns are that there are a lot of film cameras that have a shutter speed of 500, so your example of opening up to a f-stop of 8 cannot possibly work by going to a shutter speed that you do not have. So in my mind, the film speed plays a big part as well.
Funny, I did a nice exhaustive sunny 16 chart that involves some math recently. Your paper stops of light thingies reminded me of that. If anyone's interested here, I can send you the thing ; pretty sure it's totally printable so you can put it at the back of your camera to remind you or so
yea send me the link please
@@aslipperysnake docs.google.com/document/d/1OQSMEaYPXESim3zhegRqP_kWJpF5QnNMiWE-uuYPIUI/edit?usp=sharing
Here you go, sorry for the late answer. You can download it in PDF and then print it :)
@@redacted2871 nice! thanks!
This is great can you talk about cameras where the shutter speed is 500 max for the older cameras. Thank you! I have some SLRs that are up to 1000 but 500 is a struggle to master. It would be beneficial!
Me too!
thank youuu
superrrr helpfull :)))
Great video. I am shooting Ilford HP5 film pushed 2 stops to ISO 1600. My Rolleiflex and Rollei 35S only go to 1/500th . The best I can achieve with sunny 16 is to overexpose 2 stops to f16 1/500. Is that correct ? Thanks
great videos, when you said about wanting to change your f number from 16 to 8, on iso 400, why would he be wanting to change the f number, because the sun had gone in slightly and it wasn't as sunny or? I don't understand quite why he couldn't just change his f number and keep the same shutter speed? thank u (:
Also, can you do a video about shooting indoors using this because in the other video you said it was different indoors
Thanks so much, i'm still finding it slightly complicated but i'm learning :P
Thanks for this video! Just starting out with film photography and your channel is helping me massively. I've got one quick question, and if anyone else reads this and knows the answer then please do help me out:) When you talk about overexposing for safety and rating 400iso film as 200iso, does this mean I should also set the iso dial to 200, or does it just refer to changing the shutter speed? Thank you! x
I’m pretty sure he means changing the ISO (so the dial) not the shutter speed
Very good question! Is here anyone else who knows the answer?
This has been very helpful, thank you. I have one question...I am using the Pentax Asahi where it asks you to identify the ISO. If I want to be safe and over expose a 400 ISO....would I scroll the wheel on the camera to say 400 or 200? Thanks!
if you want to overexpose you have to set it to 200 for 1 stop or 100 for 2 stops and so on. It needs more time to expose at 200 iso so you overexpose
Do you recommend over exposing for safety only if you’re shooting on color film or does this apply to shooting on black & white film as well?
first example was actually good cause it gives the example of when it's too sunny and you can't go higher than 1k shutter speed because most film cameras don't go over 1k shutter speed...in these cases you'd need an ND filter, or just stop down your aperture :)
I'm sure some people are going from video to, trying to figure out how this applies to pushing/pulling ISO. Granted, this is from someone actually spending their first day ever learning about film photography, but have had experience in digital.
Everything works in stops, in which that halving your shutter speed is one stop, doubling it is also one stop. and the more you have and double, the more stops. Aperture kinda has their own system it seems so let's ignore that and assume whatever options there are for aperture is a stop higher or lower.
ISO works like shutter speed. You halve it, it's over-exposed 1 stop. Halve it again, it's over-exposed 2 stops. Double it, back to 1, etc. And so in this case, we have a triangle where you can choose to keep one and change the other depending on the use case. Let's set an example.
People online are saying to lower Kodak Portra 400 to 200 speed, which is over-exposed by one stop. For this example, without going into changing DoF for portraits, we'll say we're doing landscapes on a sunny day. So in usual, we would be shooting ISO 400 at 1/500 with f/22. But since we lowered our ISO to 200, we actually need to underexpose by one stop on the shutter speed. Now, we're shooting ISO 200 at 1/1,000 with f/22.
So tl;dr, if I'm right, everything works in stops. In order to push or pull your film's speed, you have to choose the opposite of the exposure for your ISO. So if you pull your film, you have to push your shutter speed or aperture. And vice versa.
AGAIN, I LITERALLY AM READING ALL THIS IN ONE DAY WITH NO FIELD EXPERIENCE IN FILM PHOTOGRAPHY.
When overexposing, should we change the iso AND the shutter speed? Or just one of those?
i love to use sunny 16
This is a very good tutorial but how important is this while using a full frame mirrorless camera? In other words, should I not trust too much the camera's wysiwyg system?
question: If I do as suggested and rate my 400 film as 200 and carry on taking pictures, when I take the film to be developed do they need to know that's what I did? Or is it better not to include that when taking the film in?
As for his first example for compensation assuming my camera does go only to 1/1000 would I need to change the ISO then?
So with me having a let's say Portra 400 in my camera so my shutter speed at 1/500 and it's sunny so I should use f/16 but because of let's say depth of field I want f/8 would I then compensate by setting shutter speed to 1/1000 and IS0 200 ??
On this note, if I want a certain depth of field and a certain let say blur with the settings to get those resulting in overexposure could I just change ISO to like 50 to even it out? I'm guessing not every film is as flexible with over and under exposing on the ISO
I have a Pentax program plus. Not sure how to use the exposure compensation buttons. Any advice?
How to compensate if shutter speed max 1000 using iso 500 or 800 using this sunny 16 rule? For example, from f16 down to 2 or 3 stop but the shutter speed can't go higher than 1/1000 what should do?
For over exposure shots, shouldn't it be choosing either reducing the ISO, or reducing the shutter speed? Adjusting both? doesn't that equate to the original ISO 400 and shutter 500, i.e. no change?
Nice tips, I''ll bring a lightmeter each I go out now till I master it! Thanks 👏
Hi, I installed the Light Meter app on the iPhone, but there is no sign, arrow, or indication indicating the speed measurement with the lens aperture, how do I know and i put 400 iso click on the button measure. The E V 10
i have minolta SR1 and my shutter speed maxes out at 500 so what should i do if I want to shoot at a lower aperture? Just over expose and be happy or get a different speed of film?
Hello I am just seeing this video lol I hope you will reply, but i am new to film and i understand all that you are saying; however, what if i wanted my aperture to be f/2.8 but my camera's shutter speed stops at 1000? what would I do then if im shooting with a 200 film? thank you
What about old cameras where shutter speeds only range to 200, are these cameras still ok to use
So I just purchased my first film camera, a mint condition Canon F1, the light meter works and so when I try to do the S16 it’s not really meshing with the meter. Is that because it’s in aperture mode?
Hi can i ask if the concept of sunny 16 is the same with my camera that only have 1/175 shutter speed? How can i use f16 with only 1/175 speed if it need around 1/500 ?
Great video and very helpful! I have a question, when I go to over-expose my film for safety, will the aperture follow along as well? So imagine it's a fully sunny day (f16) and I have a 400 ISO film and I over-expose setting my shutter speed to 1/250 instead of 1/500, will then the aperture remain f16 or would change to f22? Sorry it might be a silly question, but I am just starting out :)
Thanks in advance!
By setting your shutter speed to 1/250 (instead of 1/500) you have created the overexposure. Don’t change from f16. Stay at f16.
Does this work with medium format as well? Or is there any difference?
I feel like i'm in algebra all over again. lol I was so relieved when iphone light meters started being pretty much accurate. Shooting medium format has been easier the last few years since it's one less piece of equipment to keep in my pocket.
Which light meter app are you using?
@@randomscience4k The one I used last time was called pocket light meter, it's simple and could be better. There are a bunch of free ones so just try some out and see what works for you.
@@solarsatori LUX on iPhone is doing a really good job, no BS, just the right stuff needed... (and it's free)
Can you tell me if this is correct? So say I am shooting 200 ISO film with a 250 shutter speed on a sunny day(f16). If I see a moving car and I want a picture without trails, I would change my shutter to say 1000 and then correct my aperture by changing it to f8?
I found the sunny f/16 rule very crude and mostly made for more Southern climate zones. I found a re-named sunny f/11 much more correct at ISO 100 in the mid-Atlantic US zone. It's a rule which lives more from exemptions of the rule (cloudy conditions, shadows, high contrast etc) than actually following the rule. Using any kind of light meter is much better.
Finally
What if I want to shoot f2 or f4 on a sunny day 400iso but my camera has the maximum of 1/1000 ?
what i don't understand with the app is that when i give it more like f11 but the camera's light meter says it can be the Hoof or too low how do I fix this?
Does sunny 16 only applies to film cameras? Or can this also applies to digital? Thanks!
Many thanks for the video!
I just need you to please clarify the following...I’m out on a sunny day, camera set to f/16 + 1/500 (400ISO) if weather conditions change and I change my F-stop to f/11 does that mean that I have to change also my shutter speed from 500 to 1000? And I’m shooting black and white, would the “overexposing for safety” would work for me?
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Many Thanks :)
No, if weather conditions change to make it less sunny, you would keep the shutter speed and change the F-stop to f/11. To my understanding, the examples he gives are just different settings to get the same effect. If the shutter speed is 1000 at f/11 with 400ISO, it’s the same as f/16 + 1/500(400ISO). Although I don’t really get the point of it if it gets you the same results, so maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what it seemed like he was saying.
@@jaben5489 I'm a total beginner at this but I think the point of why you would change certain aspects like shutter speed or aperature and deviate from the sunny16 rule is dependent on what you are shooting. For example, to capture a moving subject you'd want a quick shutter speed which the standard sunny16 aperture rule of f16 and 1/500wouldn't accomodate for as this may be too slow of ashutter speed. SO you'd need to alter the speed to capture the image to avoid motion blur, but to ensure the photo is properly exposed still, you'd also need to adjust the f stop. - I think..
Similarly, if you're weather conditions mean you need an f/8 f stop but you want a larger depth of field, you'll need to set it at a higher f stop like f11 or f16 but again, to ensure correct exposure, need to adjust the speed to achieve this.
SOmebody feel free to tell me if I'm totally wrong - I'm here learning like everybody else!
@@xLightningbolt yeah, after looking at some more videos it seems like that’s what it is.
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this video explains it really well
Dumb question but is 500 shutter speed the same as 5 seconds?
@@Angelkaaya I think it’s 500th of a second
If im trying to push a film +1stop (400 iso to 800 iso) Do i have to change the Shutter speed from 500 to 1000? Anyone?
Ok. Does this work for black and white?
You're the man 👍👍👍