Can Turks & Turkmens Understand Old Turkic?

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2021
  • Can Turkish and Turkmen speakers understand Old Turkic (the earliest attested form of Turkic)? Divided into different stages, Old Turkic refers to a collection of several closely related Common Turkic branches. In this video, Güneş will read some short paragraphs from the different stages of Old Turkic, and Bilge (Turkish speaker) and Ataş (Turkmen speaker) will see how well they can understand it.
    Dating back to the 7th Century AD, we will start with the Köktürk (Göktürk) language. Kokturk is the language that was used in the oldest known written Turkic Language and the name comes from the Göktürk Khaganate, which is also referred to as the First Turkic Empire. The script used for the Old Turkic languages at this stage is also referred to as Göktürk or Orkhon script. The name Orkhon comes from the Orkhon Valley in Mongolia where early inscriptions were discovered.
    The next Old Turkic stage that we focused on starts at around the 9th century (The Uighur stage). The Uighur or Uyghur Khaganate was a tribal confederation under the Orkhon Uyghur. As time went on, they would convert to and follow different religions (Tengrism, Manichaeism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, etc.) and in the process used different scripts to write their language. The Old Uyghur language evolved from Old Turkic after the Uyghur Khaganate broke up and it's important to note that the modern Uyghur language is not descended from Old Uyghur, it is a descendant of the Karluk languages. Western Yugur is considered to be the descendant of Old Uyghur.
    The next stage is the Kara-Khanid stage. The Kara-Khanid Khanate (Karakhanids / Afrasiabids) were in power from the 9th through the 13th century, conquering and moving into Central Asia, signaling a shift from Iranic to Turkic presence in the area. This led to the adoption of certain elements from Persian and Arabic, both culturally and linguistically, as well as conversion to Islam.
    Be sure to check out Ataş’ channel: ‪@atasgayypogly7701‬
    Please follow and contact us on Instagram if you have any suggestions for future videos: @BahadorAlast ( / bahadoralast )
    The Turkish language (Türkçe), which is also referred to as Istanbul Turkish, is the most widely spoken of the Turkic languages, with most of its native speakers living in Western Asia, and significant group of speakers in Germany, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Northern Cyprus, Greece, the Caucasus, and other parts of Europe and Central Asia. Ottoman Turkish, which was a variation of the Turkish spoken today, influenced many parts of Europe during the time that the Ottoman Empire expanded. When the modern Turkish republic was established, one of Atatürk's Reforms consisted of changing the Ottoman Turkish alphabet with a Latin alphabet. Today, Turkish is recognized as a minority language in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Greece, Iraq, Macedonia, and Romania.
    The Turkmen language (türkmen dili) is a member of the Oghuz branch of the Turkic languages and it is spoken by the Turkmens of Central Asia, primarily in Turkmenistan where it has official status, and also in Iran and Afghanistan which both have a significant Turkmen community.
    The Turkic languages consist of over 35 different documented languages, originating from East Asia. Turkish has the highest number of native speakers out of all Turkic language. There is a high degree of mutual intelligibility among the various Oghuz languages, which include Turkish, Azerbaijani, Turkmen, Qashqai, Gagauz, Balkan Gagauz Turkish and Oghuz-influenced Crimean Tatar.
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  • @BahadorAlast
    @BahadorAlast  Před 2 lety +112

    Old Turkic is a collection of several closely related Turkic branches divided into stages dating back to over 1400 years ago. Hope you enjoy the video! Share it with anyone who speaks a modern Turkic language to see how much of it they can understand.
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    • @umar4655
      @umar4655 Před 2 lety

      @@human7491 Many old languages are alive today

    • @sevketcoskun2922
      @sevketcoskun2922 Před 2 lety +2

      Great one Bahadır

    • @collectivelove2275
      @collectivelove2275 Před 2 lety +1

      @4öRT y. So then you'd understand Igbo?

    • @TarlanT
      @TarlanT Před 2 lety +1

      You should have mentioned that both Atash and Bilge are linguists. And they are familiar with Old Turkic scripts.
      The video leaves a wrong impression that modern day Turkic people can easily understand Old Turkic.

    • @collectivelove2275
      @collectivelove2275 Před 2 lety +4

      @4öRT y. I know you don't speak it, you can't even speak English.

  • @TheLightlessMoon
    @TheLightlessMoon Před 2 lety +440

    three people with glasses means we will watch something highly intellectual.

  • @kayvond9270
    @kayvond9270 Před 2 lety +113

    Always fun to see similarities between Turkic languages new and old! Happy to see Ataş back for another episode. 🇹🇷🇹🇲

  • @soulalex9651
    @soulalex9651 Před 2 lety +215

    Old Turkic and Old Uyghur were spoken more than thousand years ago, but Turkic people can still somehow understand that. Amazing

    • @saidx5896
      @saidx5896 Před 2 lety +9

      i think old turkic more close to uyghur

    • @TarlanT
      @TarlanT Před 2 lety +6

      Both Bilge and Atash are linguists.
      They’ve read Old Turkic in college.
      That’s why they’re cracking it quickly.
      Average Turk will get 0% of the Old Turkic.

    • @saidx5896
      @saidx5896 Před 2 lety +35

      @TarlanT i think i can understand old turkic more than kazakh

    • @byron-ih2ge
      @byron-ih2ge Před 2 lety

      Cause they r nomads .

    • @OgedayKaan
      @OgedayKaan Před 2 lety +38

      ​@@TarlanT i don't know where you are from but as a turkish guy, i didn't have an old turkic course at school or i am not a linguists. but i clearly understand %80 of old turkic from the written form. i didn't have a chance only to listen because after reading the text that wouldn't make sense.

  • @alkarisi2585
    @alkarisi2585 Před 2 lety +219

    Turkic nations: *Understanding Old Turkic better than each others' modern language*

    • @SagucuTegin
      @SagucuTegin Před 2 lety +33

      Kazakh language much more close to Old Turkic. In addition, Turkey had important revolution on the official language. Dozens of ancient Turkic word added in to Turkish language to create new and "pure" Turkish language.

    • @alkarisi2585
      @alkarisi2585 Před 2 lety +4

      @@SagucuTegin I meant Turkic nations. Let me edit it.

    • @zmba6924
      @zmba6924 Před 2 lety +3

      because thats proto

    • @IranAzadLoading
      @IranAzadLoading Před 2 lety +11

      @@SagucuTegin true, Anatolian Turkish was more like Azeri Turkic before.

    • @ai-kt3hy
      @ai-kt3hy Před 2 lety +2

      @@IranAzadLoading no. Azerbaijan is much more broken.

  • @willgoins218
    @willgoins218 Před 2 lety +112

    The etymology of Turkic languages is fascinating.

  • @30dramf04
    @30dramf04 Před 2 lety +300

    I’m a baskort turk, hepsi turk halkin ben seviyorum🇹🇷🇷🇺

    • @melihaktan2000
      @melihaktan2000 Před 2 lety +22

      Türkiye'den selam kardeşim ☺️

    • @user-cg4uz5sp7d
      @user-cg4uz5sp7d Před 2 lety +12

      Biz de sizi seviyoruz kardeşim. 😘💕

    • @dyuksel03
      @dyuksel03 Před 2 lety +11

      Selam gardaş

    • @topalosman7162
      @topalosman7162 Před 2 lety +9

      Selamlar dostum :)

    • @Bashkir
      @Bashkir Před 2 lety +23

      Urıs bayrağı qullanma, qutaqbaş bulma, üzallılıq teläybez! Azatlıq başqortostan!!

  • @orhonnamsiz4318
    @orhonnamsiz4318 Před 2 lety +239

    I am Uyghur and the first old Turkic sentence literally sounds like the combination of Anatolian, Kazakh and Uyghur combined to me.

    • @Ash_tommo
      @Ash_tommo Před 2 lety +35

      Free Uyghur ❤️

    • @Ash_tommo
      @Ash_tommo Před 2 lety +32

      Free East Turkistan ❤️

    • @theygoastheycome90
      @theygoastheycome90 Před 2 lety +23

      We love Uyghur Turks from Türkiye 🇹🇷
      💙🤍

    • @OgedayKaan
      @OgedayKaan Před 2 lety

      yeah maybe that is why i understand old turkic text more than uyghur text. (i am turkish)

    • @burzumimmortal5667
      @burzumimmortal5667 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Ash_tommo Free Kurdistan 👏🏻

  • @MrAllmightyCornholioz
    @MrAllmightyCornholioz Před 2 lety +43

    TENGRI BLESS ALL THE TURKIC PEOPLE!

    • @Andalusian_
      @Andalusian_ Před rokem +3

      Cringe. May Allah/God guide the Turkic people

    • @BBATUHAN_ATESLI
      @BBATUHAN_ATESLI Před měsícem +2

      ​@@Andalusian_God does not exist.

  • @flyicarush
    @flyicarush Před 2 lety +16

    Im Turk from İstanbul, my brother names Batuhan, Dilek, Bahadır my father Erdinç, grandfather Atilla, my sons, Ertugrul Erdinç, Türkçe isimler bile güzel Tüm Türk karındaşlarıma selamlar, Tengri Biz Menen.

  • @SenaChalishqan
    @SenaChalishqan Před 2 lety +65

    Such an interesting video. I’m a turk from Tabriz and I really enjoy the videos about turkic languages. Yaşasın🤞🏻❤️

    • @milstween7998
      @milstween7998 Před 2 lety

      You are azeris you’re ancestry are kurd

    • @ugurbocugunungunlugu638
      @ugurbocugunungunlugu638 Před 2 lety +13

      @@milstween7998 .What kind of egoism is this and what kind of ignorance is it to say to someone who says I am a Turk, what kind of ignorance.

    • @bulutbulut754
      @bulutbulut754 Před 2 lety

      @@ugurbocugunungunlugu638 yes off course I have right turk are in Kirghizistan Ouzbékistan and khazakstan ouïgours juste Azeris and turkiye are not turk but indo-européenne people

    • @ERROR-sn7hg
      @ERROR-sn7hg Před 2 lety +4

      @@milstween7998 lmao 😂😂😂

    • @ERROR-sn7hg
      @ERROR-sn7hg Před 2 lety +4

      @@bulutbulut754 BRUH MOMENTO

  • @Ash_tommo
    @Ash_tommo Před 2 lety +85

    Love and respect for all my Turkic brothers
    Greetings from Yemen 🇾🇪

    • @fwrususes5125
      @fwrususes5125 Před 2 lety +5

      Love you too buddy ❤

    • @numeron509
      @numeron509 Před 2 lety +3

      Love you and Yemen too

    • @kamranemin5356
      @kamranemin5356 Před 2 lety

      Are you arab

    • @doganbirol13
      @doganbirol13 Před 2 lety +5

      I don't see the point. Why are we brothers? Aren't Yemen people Semitic?

    • @omeraliorun3429
      @omeraliorun3429 Před rokem +3

      Selam turkiyeden ,yemen i seviyoruz,sizlerde bizim din kardesimiz olan barışçıl bir halksiniz,love too

  • @atasgayypogly7701
    @atasgayypogly7701 Před 2 lety +53

    Bahador thank you for the invite once again, it was really fun 😀👍🏻

    • @user-cg4uz5sp7d
      @user-cg4uz5sp7d Před 2 lety +4

      Atash Turkish diyince Turkic diye atılman... asjaksjaksj

    • @TheLightlessMoon
      @TheLightlessMoon Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-cg4uz5sp7d Güneş bir kez daha yanlışlıkla Turkish diyince Ataş'ın içinden küfür eder gibi bir yüz ifadesi var :D

    • @user-cg4uz5sp7d
      @user-cg4uz5sp7d Před 2 lety +8

      @@TheLightlessMoon Ataşı seviyorum kanalını uzun zamandır takip ediyorum ama gereksiz gerginlik oldu. Kendi Türkiyede yaşıyor zaten. Iyi biliyo bizim dilde tek bi Türk geçer ingilizcedeki gibi Turkic ve Turkish diye ayrılmaz. Bu kadar takılması hem tatlı hem üzdü yani. Ne fark eder ki. Kimsenin kötü bi niyeti yok.

    • @TheLightlessMoon
      @TheLightlessMoon Před 2 lety +2

      @@user-cg4uz5sp7d Terimlerin yerli yerine oturması için ekstra çaba harcıyor. Türk dilleri için emek veren güzel bir arkadaş. Bence doğru yapıyor.

    • @Grungeuncle
      @Grungeuncle Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheLightlessMoon Çok yanlış yapıyor. Tamamen bölücü kafa. Hiç kimse kusura bakmasın. Türk de geç. Yorumlarda da ayrıca yazdım zaten. Polonyalı Slav mı Slavic mi? O Slav ise Hırvat Slav mı Slavic mi? Kimin Slav veya Slavic olduğuna kim karar veriyor?
      Kimin Turkish kimin Turkic olduğuna kim karar veriyor? İçi boş, bölücü kafa, laf cambazlığından başka bişey değil.

  • @m.juliano
    @m.juliano Před 2 lety +18

    Bohadir thank you again for inviting as I see it has already some attention. C u next time 🤙🏻

  • @farzinazimzade557
    @farzinazimzade557 Před 2 lety +35

    I'm from iranian azerbaijan and I understood most of the old turkic part, like the guests which is not surprising since Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen are closely related.
    I've started to learn Turkish lately and although our languages are deeply connected There are certain structural and vocabulary differences and I takes time and practice to speak fluently. What I lack is a Turkish native speaker to talk with.
    If any native Turkish guy is interested in knowing more about Azerbaijan and Iran or wants me to help him in learning Azerbaijani or Persian or even ottoman Turkish I'd be more than glad to talk to him/her and share my knowledge. I leave this comment here because I seek someone who is preferably interested in linguistics, culture and history as I am.

    • @sahilamikishiev
      @sahilamikishiev Před 2 lety +3

      Hi! I'm Azerbaijani from Russia (Udmurtia (uralic language) to be clear ahah). I'm learning Turkish too and.. reading some Ottoman Turkish. I'd like to have a talk with you))

    • @sigmaslibrary
      @sigmaslibrary Před 2 lety

      Çok rahat öğrenirsin sadexe kelime bilmen lazım

    • @SU.66
      @SU.66 Před rokem

      Hi, can we share some knowledge please? I’m working on a workshop now throughout Europe and i can use a little help if you don’t mind

    • @coskunyldz1592
      @coskunyldz1592 Před 14 dny

      Türkiye, Azerbaycan and Türkmenistan are all oğuz Turks.

  • @Badolado384
    @Badolado384 Před 2 lety +66

    It's like a mix between Oghuz, Kipçak and Siberian Turkic😅

  • @marumidesun
    @marumidesun Před 2 lety +6

    Great video as always, thank you Bahador! 🙏❤

  • @shekharaakula6233
    @shekharaakula6233 Před 2 lety +6

    This channel is just getting better and better!

  • @arkeologokur
    @arkeologokur Před 2 lety +30

    Finally clever people. I was tired of ignorant people. Because of they weren't read books they weren't know any words.
    But these people are smart. I liked these team. 🇹🇷

  • @burqut
    @burqut Před 2 lety +4

    Fantastic video as usual, thank you Bahador.

  • @EthemD
    @EthemD Před 2 lety +34

    Bilge and Ataş did a phenomenal job - really well done! It was quite difficult to identify any words and understand any context, even as a Turkish speaking viewer (who kept pausing and reading). 😂 I liked how Güneş bey presented the sentences in a timeline, in a very educational manner. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Looking forward to more content about Proto Turkic! Thank you Bahador!! 😁

  • @halilibrahimkarasu1221
    @halilibrahimkarasu1221 Před 2 lety +6

    thanks for this amazing video, really enjoyed it throughout!

  • @farovail6838
    @farovail6838 Před 2 lety +9

    Wow very interesting topic! I haven't seen that one coming ;)

  • @freedomofhazaristan6248
    @freedomofhazaristan6248 Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks 🙏
    For sharing new video

  • @CJ-oz5cf
    @CJ-oz5cf Před 2 lety +6

    thank you for such a great video. you are doing amazing things. best wishes from turkey.

  • @muzafferturhan
    @muzafferturhan Před 2 lety +12

    you're doing a very noble and honorable job here, Bahador. Thank you so much.

  • @sevketcoskun2922
    @sevketcoskun2922 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you Mr. Bahadır for another amazing segment

  • @wisdom9753
    @wisdom9753 Před 2 lety +3

    as usual a wonderful video
    Thanks

  • @martifrey3357
    @martifrey3357 Před 2 lety +22

    This channel brings so much more value than the average youtube channel. It's like you are being paid by your government for bringing people of all cultures together in order to remember people that the art of language is something that needs to be saved at all costs

  • @berkcandar8013
    @berkcandar8013 Před 2 lety +4

    Really this is amazing honestly well done to all of you!

  • @mousamoradi3038
    @mousamoradi3038 Před 2 lety +5

    Nice 👍 Another video on the Turkic language family.

  • @TauLepton-od3zz
    @TauLepton-od3zz Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks Bahador for your job. We really appreciate it.

  • @ronald7373
    @ronald7373 Před 2 lety +5

    Great job again.

  • @Mipac13
    @Mipac13 Před 2 lety +74

    I'm guessing this is not going to be difficult for Atas, considering how many tukric languages he is familiar with

    • @MessiMerdo
      @MessiMerdo Před 2 lety +10

      Indeed, this is not really a fair comparison as both the Turkmen and the Turkish guy have and are studying Turkic linguistics. Your average person hasn't studied anything close to this.

    • @KimliksizDevlet.
      @KimliksizDevlet. Před 2 lety +6

      True. I follow his channel and I know that he speaks Turkish, Turkmen, Uzbek and can understand Kipchak languages as well. He has also studied linguistics. So he has lots of knowledge about Turkic languages.

    • @alanguages
      @alanguages Před 2 lety +3

      @@MessiMerdo That makes it an unfair comparison, albeit unintentional.
      Atas already has a rich Turkic mental database to draw upon, on top of being a linguist who specializes in Turkic languages.
      Imagine a person who is athletic and in top condition, who practices surfing, snowboarding and skateboarding on a regular basis. Then attempts something called sandboarding.
      He already has the knowledge and principles on what has to be done, then the established transferable physical skills to excel in the new endeavor. It won't be much competition compared to others who have never done a board sport in their life.

    • @metehankaynar3046
      @metehankaynar3046 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alanguages Not like that. Any Turkic person can learn the other Turkic language on 3-4 weeks.(Except Chuvash, Yakutsk, Dukha and Altay. But Karluk, Kıpchak and Oghuz is similar) They can't speak well but understand very well. It is not so complicated as you said.

  • @Billighftsk7350
    @Billighftsk7350 Před 2 lety +17

    It is amazing to know and understand the language existed milenium ago

  • @arrr33406
    @arrr33406 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the video

  • @AmericanOnTheLoose
    @AmericanOnTheLoose Před rokem +1

    That was fascinating!

  • @OgedayKaan
    @OgedayKaan Před 2 lety +18

    He translated "kasıncığımın öyü" as "the thought of my fiance". As far as i know the word "öğ" means "knowledge, cognizance etc" in old turkic. I guess the word "öy" in the the uighur stage text, is the root of the modern turkish words like öğret, öğrenci, öğretmen etc.

    • @GG-gh8dy
      @GG-gh8dy Před 2 lety +10

      Also, pretty close to this word, ög means mother in old Turkic. The word öksüz (orphan whose mother died) comes from ög-süz.

    • @m.juliano
      @m.juliano Před 2 lety +4

      Ö-mek mean thinking ö-y-ü ömek plus adverb ü so this adverb giving the meaning like when ever I think about her . Öğretmen öğrenci related with ömek it s true

    • @OgedayKaan
      @OgedayKaan Před 2 lety +3

      ​@@m.juliano thank you. so ögeday is also derived from the same root :-)

  • @Gokturk4Life
    @Gokturk4Life Před 2 lety +5

    Great work 👏 👍

    • @Gokturk4Life
      @Gokturk4Life Před rokem

      @Qd player
      The old turkic language combination of few dialogues
      For me personally its hard to understand all
      Because I grow up in a Persian speaking comunity
      Sadly turkic language is not my first language .
      But my blood is turkic blood
      Respect 🙌

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 Před 2 lety +8

    thanks to you all, I enjoyed this video very much, interesting to see the old form of Turkic language is still living original words and terms scattered among various groups, some how we can relate to, though with some difficulties... probably Qara Hanid Turkic should be revived and made the common Turkic for us all

  • @ezraoz3904
    @ezraoz3904 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Beautiful. I love you guys. Muhtesemsiniz.

  • @justthatasian7695
    @justthatasian7695 Před 2 lety +25

    Never knew there’s Old Turkish! That’s really cool and Turkmen is such a cool language!

    • @sevketcoskun2922
      @sevketcoskun2922 Před 2 lety +26

      *Turkic

    • @yesterday.3363
      @yesterday.3363 Před 2 lety +1

      Its not turkish. Old turkic*

    • @ayxan2346
      @ayxan2346 Před 2 lety +12

      @@sevketcoskun2922 There is no differences in Turkish
      Turkic/Turkish = Türkçe
      This has come from English and Russian there is no differenses between them in Turkish

    • @nevsehri4819
      @nevsehri4819 Před 2 lety +6

      @@ayxan2346 Turkish sadece Türkiye Türkçesi için kullanılır, Turkic bütün Tük dilleri için. Aynı şey değil yani

    • @ayxan2346
      @ayxan2346 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nevsehri4819 Turkic Turkish Türk dillində fərqləri nədir?
      Bizdə fərqi yox biz Turkic deyilik Türkük
      Dilimiz də Türkcədir

  • @burqut
    @burqut Před 2 lety +13

    Dear Bahador, how about a video on Latin vs Sanskirit? I think it would be a great video.

  • @Kaan_is_myname97
    @Kaan_is_myname97 Před 2 lety +2

    I understood a lot ! It is so close :D only some letter in the words have changed
    Hello from Turkey

  • @peymanrazzaghi
    @peymanrazzaghi Před 2 lety +2

    It's definitely the best youtube video I've ever seen in this subject.
    I really appreciate your efforts Bahador

  • @stevensaurav671
    @stevensaurav671 Před 2 lety +6

    first veiw n first like frm India🇮🇳

  • @Turk_Union
    @Turk_Union Před 2 lety +7

    Great people !! I have a little conern, though... I think every single word should have been analysed, some words weren't touched on. I guess it's because this was the first video of a new serials of such videos which I d follow faithfully all the time.

  • @freedomofhazaristan6248
    @freedomofhazaristan6248 Před 2 lety +35

    Salam Ulus Hazara 🟦🟨⬜️ türkum 🟥( Azeragi)
    ate turk. 🟩

  • @ipoop4timesaday
    @ipoop4timesaday Před 2 lety +35

    Gunes's Old Turkic pronunciation should be commended, he sounds spot on in replicating the Central Asian accents. Many Turkish people have this profound frontal-mouth accent and you usually recognize when its a Turkish person trying to read Old Turkic. But in this case I would think its a Kazakh or Kyrgyz person. I have never heard a real Gokturk person speak but I would guess this is closer to how they sounded :D

    • @m.juliano
      @m.juliano Před 2 lety +9

      Thank you 😊 it s true Turkish people even turkolog’s use frontal sounds for me it s deeper also during day central Asian or Siberian Turkic languages don’t use frontal mouth it has to be like that. Also I can speak Kazakh language it helps me more about sounds because Turkish is so soft to give that sounds

    • @oguztribesmen294
      @oguztribesmen294 Před 2 lety +1

      I would agree if we let a Tuvan or Altai Turkic speaker, speak the old Turkic language. Kazakhs or Kirgiz pronouncing is kinda influenced by Russian.

    • @metehankaynar3046
      @metehankaynar3046 Před 2 lety +3

      @@m.juliano Oğuz dillerinde böyle aslında. Türkçe diğerlerine göre çok daha yumuşak fakat yine de Türkmen ve Azerbaycan Türkçesi de diğer Orta Asya Türkçelerine göre yumuşak kalıyor.

    • @UnQuacker
      @UnQuacker Před rokem

      @@oguztribesmen294 and how exactly are their "pronouncing" is influenced by the Russian language?👀

    • @__Man__
      @__Man__ Před rokem

      @@UnQuacker they pronounce e as ye instead of e, which was influenced by Russian.

  • @osmanbatur1328
    @osmanbatur1328 Před 2 lety +33

    Everything looks familiar but I'm having a hard time putting it together in a meaningful way. It sounds like Türkmen. 1400 years ago, if I spoke to a Hun Turk, he would be very confused. I saw a similar version of this in East Turkestan in the confused looks between Turks and Uyghurs.

    • @uo9238
      @uo9238 Před 2 lety

      What do you mean by confused looks?

    • @acanthoscurriageniculata7141
      @acanthoscurriageniculata7141 Před 2 lety +3

      @@uo9238 they hear the changed versions of the words they know but meanings are still the same

    • @Burak-gr4ee
      @Burak-gr4ee Před 2 lety +4

      Old Turkic (Göktürkçe and Old Uyghur) is a member of Siberian Turkic group and not an ancestor of Oghuzs. These languages are just cognates. That's why we can't understand that well. A Siberian can understand it better.

    • @uo9238
      @uo9238 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Burak-gr4ee Uyghurs are descendants of the Üç-Oğuz

    • @Burak-gr4ee
      @Burak-gr4ee Před 2 lety +1

      @@uo9238 Modern Uyghur and Old Uyghur are different. Karluks were üç-oğuz but Old Uyghur language is not Karluk. It's a Siberian Turkic language.

  • @abdirahmanabdiqadir1427
    @abdirahmanabdiqadir1427 Před 2 lety +6

    Love turkey 🇹🇷 from somalia🇸🇴

    • @YouTubePs4-gz1rn
      @YouTubePs4-gz1rn Před 4 měsíci

      Why do Somalians have Arabs name? Are they Arabs?

  • @user-zh7yr1up8g
    @user-zh7yr1up8g Před 2 lety +31

    This was very interesting. I wonder if you could find someone who speaks Aramaic from and older era, say 2000 years ago and see how the Assyrian Aramaic speakers can understand it

    • @adamjunior54
      @adamjunior54 Před 2 lety +3

      what i know that until today there are people who speak ancient Aramaic ❤ in Syria in the villages of Maaloula, Jab`adin and Al-Bukh3a in the Qalamoun Mountains on the outskirts of Damascus ❤

    • @simkoshkak6732
      @simkoshkak6732 Před 2 lety +1

      Even There’s No Such Thing Called Assyrian Language
      LoL

    • @Ebionarius
      @Ebionarius Před 2 lety

      Just have someone read from the Peshitta or the Targums and see how much a speaker of current neo-Aramaic language (Syriac, Assyrian, Kaldean etc.) understands. Peshitta would be the better choice since it is from the Syriac (i.e. "Aramaic- speaking - Christian") tradition.

  • @corinna007
    @corinna007 Před 2 lety +11

    You should try to make a video like this to see if Finns and Estonians, and maybe Hungarians, could understand old Finnic.

    • @abaikospen9178
      @abaikospen9178 Před 2 lety +4

      Best wishes for our Uralic far brothers) God bless Finland

  • @alamar1205
    @alamar1205 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi Bahador. Is there any chance that you can bring a Chuvash speaker to your program and compare the language to another Turkic languages?
    Thanks in advance.

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  Před 2 lety +3

      I would really love to and I'll try my best :)

    • @ai-kt3hy
      @ai-kt3hy Před 2 lety +1

      @@BahadorAlast please make Chuvash and Turkish with Shimal, Shimal is great. For last time it would be good to see her again

  • @AllanLimosin
    @AllanLimosin Před 2 lety +37

    I admire a lot spoken Turkmen. Native people usually speak fast, and they have this both very unique and usual phonology, I guess it's due to the fact that they are affected by Turkic languages other than Oghuz, Iranic and a little Arabic.

    • @iomreq2301
      @iomreq2301 Před 2 lety +1

      and i love armenian! yes hayereny shat sirem. it is a unique language

  • @omeraliorun3429
    @omeraliorun3429 Před rokem +1

    Çok güzel bir çalışma oldu ,balığın şehir olduğunu öğrendim eski Türkçede....bütün Türk halklarına selam...

    • @shahinkarimian2638
      @shahinkarimian2638 Před rokem

      Beiging name was khanbalik in koobilay ghahan era . The powerful mongol emperor of china

  • @MuratYLDZ974
    @MuratYLDZ974 Před rokem +1

    I was strangely surprised. I understood most of the Göktürk sentences. I wasn't expecting this much. I think I might have understood more easily what is written in the inscription, since I have heard the Turkish dialect many times in many places. (Bu arada ben Türkiye'denim 😊)

  • @yarglandn1630
    @yarglandn1630 Před 2 lety +21

    Before the genocide of Stalin, a common Turkish was used in Central Asia.

    • @ai-kt3hy
      @ai-kt3hy Před 2 lety

      Which ons ?

    • @ai-kt3hy
      @ai-kt3hy Před 2 lety

      one *

    • @ai-kt3hy
      @ai-kt3hy Před 2 lety

      How it was called

    • @yarglandn1630
      @yarglandn1630 Před 2 lety

      @@ai-kt3hy most Turkic languages understand each other now and if stalin did not use genocide all of them use 1 language

    • @ERROR-sn7hg
      @ERROR-sn7hg Před 2 lety

      Kanka Ortak türkçe göktürk zamanlarında filan vardı göçlerden sonra yok benzer lehçelerimiz var sadece stalinin genosidinin buna alakası yok

  • @abaikospen9178
    @abaikospen9178 Před 2 lety +3

    Bir Ulus Bir Yol Bir Gelecek ! Bar bolun Türküm!

  • @mahircalis
    @mahircalis Před 2 lety

    KökTürk yazıtlarıyla ilgili yeni bir video olsa ver her Türk boylarından birer kişi olsa tadından yenmez birvideo olur. Teşekkürler

  • @Meesha_Ishakov
    @Meesha_Ishakov Před rokem +1

    My ancestors are somewhere from the Caucasus and east of the Urals, more recently Azerbaijan and my grandma speaks a very rare dialect that I suspect is spoken between Kumak and Urmia but is also intelligible in Iran still can't figure out what dialect it is of Turkic I'm of mixed Turko-Persian and Caucus ancestry!

  • @godoff.5304
    @godoff.5304 Před 2 lety +3

    As a Turkish person from Turkish republic; I can understand % 90 dialects that made by any Turk/Turkish speaking court, if it is written in Latin Alphabet.
    For example; lets sat there are 200 Thousand words in Turkey's Turkish and 200 Thousand words in Kazakhstan Turk/Turkic language. We the Turkish Turks use different word for different meaning but what ever word Kazaks uses iy also exists in our language and you can use that word to describe same thing or vice versa.

  • @martinbanner1565
    @martinbanner1565 Před 2 lety +18

    Moncuk (Boncuk) is more like a bead than pearl

    • @unslaadkrosis9435
      @unslaadkrosis9435 Před 2 lety +9

      Yincu is the pearl one

    • @generatorrex484
      @generatorrex484 Před 2 lety +8

      @@unslaadkrosis9435 İnci is the Turkish word for pearl.

    • @wg611
      @wg611 Před 2 lety

      Boyuncukluk

    • @helgapotaky5011
      @helgapotaky5011 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, in azerbaijani it also means bead. Muncuk

    • @bulentkulkuloglu
      @bulentkulkuloglu Před 2 lety +8

      But the interesting part is "yincu moncuk" is used together
      It's still the same a thousand years later we use "inci boncuk" still together

  • @zeinelconstanta
    @zeinelconstanta Před rokem

    ❤love those eyeglassed persons they revealed a lot of words that i forgot

  • @Ryan21888
    @Ryan21888 Před rokem

    Love it!

  • @emilian_mu
    @emilian_mu Před 2 lety +8

    I would die to see Hausa vs. Arabic or English vs. Nigerian Pidgin :)

  • @korkufilmleriscarymovies2283

    Üze = üste .
    Kök Tengri =gök tanrı
    yağız yir = Yağız Yer
    Kılındukta = kılınınca
    Ikin = ikisinin
    Ara = arasında
    Kişi oğlu = o kişi or insan
    Kılınmış = yaratılmış

  • @Aeterna71
    @Aeterna71 Před rokem +7

    The guy in left doesn't know the true meaning of first sentence. He thinks kök tengri is "sky god" because todays turkish gök/kök means "sky" and tengri/tanrı means "god" but in old turkic kök means "blue" and tengri means both sky and god. So the correct translation of first sentence is "Blue sky on the top, and the brown land in the bottom created, humanity created between them."

    • @Schizobateman
      @Schizobateman Před 4 měsíci +1

      The name Tengri ("the Sky") is derived from Old Turkic: Tenk ("daybreak") or Tan ("dawn") ultimately from Proto-Turkic *teŋri (“sky, heaven)

    • @Schizobateman
      @Schizobateman Před 4 měsíci

      It's not a generic term for God

  • @lglstc13
    @lglstc13 Před 2 lety +8

    Would be interesting to see Tang Chinese vs Mandarin and Cantonese

  • @CUMALI_ORDUGAHI
    @CUMALI_ORDUGAHI Před 2 lety +4

    Bu türkic olayını kim çıkardı be. Daha o zamanlarda bile türk yazıyormuş işte.

  • @aranyaraj4843
    @aranyaraj4843 Před 2 lety +3

    make a video on what are the similarities between Gujarati,Bengali,Marathi,konkani,Punjabi, kashmiri and hindi

  • @wg611
    @wg611 Před 2 lety +1

    19:00 Balık like in Balıkesir and Han Balık (City of the Khan, the capital) is the city.

  • @abaikospen9178
    @abaikospen9178 Před 2 lety +10

    Esenlikler Türk Ulusa!

  • @alibalibekbaykal
    @alibalibekbaykal Před rokem +3

    GOK TENGRI
    The word "Gök" in the expression "Gök Tengri", which we used in our old belief, is not a word used to describe one of God’s place of dominion, reign or sovereignty.
    As you know, in every language, sometimes many words can be used for one meaning, and sometimes one word can have many meanings.
    Even, none of these meanings may have anything to do with each other.
    Then we can understand what a word means by the intent in the sentence. So can the "Gök".
    The meanings of "Gök" in Turkish,
    1-is “sky”.
    However it does not just only mean sky. Beside that it also means
    2-“blue"
    3-“green"
    4-“playing blue or green, in the compound of "göketmek/göğetmek"
    5-“to sprout" as in the compound "gökermek/göğermek",
    6-“great, lofty, high, tremendously great”
    7-“sacred"
    My ancestors called the lake "Baikal" in Northeast Central Asia as "Gökgöl". Because it was the largest of a series of lakes located in the northeast of Baikal, which has been partially lost, they called Lake Baikal "Gökgöl", meaning "The Greatest/Great Lake" of all. They may also attributed a sanctity because of its benefits.
    As another example, I can give the name "Gökdeniz".
    Saying "Gökgöl" in Turkish does not mean "lake in the sky" or "Gökdeniz" does not mean “sea in the sky". They mean “Great Lake” and “Ocean” respectively.
    Just like those, the first State bearing the national name of the Turkish Nation was the "Göktürk State" of 8th century . The meaning in this name is not directly related to the physical Sky. It doesn’t mean "Turks in the Sky", "Turks from the Sky" or "Turks Who Own the Sky". From the inscriptions and legends it is already known that the word "Gök" here is "Great" and "Holy".
    Gök Tengri means “Great God (Yuluğ Tengri/Ulu Tengri)”. It does not mean "God of Sky" or "God in the Sky".

    • @BarbarosErd
      @BarbarosErd Před 11 měsíci

      Kök tengri litteraly means "great sky". In this case, kök means "great" and tengri means "sky" just like in "Üze tengri basmasar" .

  • @wg611
    @wg611 Před 2 lety +3

    As a Turk, I could decipher the Göktürk well but the Uyghur although seemed familiar felt far away.

  • @zainabal-marayati5525
    @zainabal-marayati5525 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe you can do this with Old Arabic, as in the pre-Islamic Arabic

  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 Před 2 lety +1

    Is Shavar/Shovar or some variation of it a name used amongst Turks/Turkics? Particularly a last name?

    • @Ivy172_
      @Ivy172_ Před 2 lety

      No we don't have that word in Turkish

    • @jeffkardosjr.3825
      @jeffkardosjr.3825 Před 2 lety

      @@Ivy172_ I suspect more Semetic origin, maybe loaned to Turk. But places in Iran apparently also have that name, and a form of it is used as an Armenian first name.

    • @Ivy172_
      @Ivy172_ Před 2 lety +3

      @@jeffkardosjr.3825 There is a word (Turkic origin) in our language called "savmak", one of the forms with the inflectional suffix is ​​"savar". But I don't know if it's the same word as you say

  • @meralkeskin8511
    @meralkeskin8511 Před 2 lety +7

    I asked to my friend,Who is kökturk close? Volga tatarian... 😂 She said: Its understand all Turkish or, Başkurdıstan turkic too. She is a historian, teacher. She understood already.

    • @shahinkarimian2638
      @shahinkarimian2638 Před rokem

      What is bashkurdistn turkic . Who understand all turcik languages? Volga tatars

  • @oghuzbeg4944
    @oghuzbeg4944 Před 2 lety +10

    Turkic Runic script is very easy
    Her Türk öğrenmeli

    • @user-fw8ox7kz5t
      @user-fw8ox7kz5t Před 2 lety +8

      knk keşke adam akıllı biri öğretse ya ilk okulda falan seçmeli olsa iyi olur

    • @oghuzbeg4944
      @oghuzbeg4944 Před 2 lety +5

      @@user-fw8ox7kz5t gökbey uluç öğretiyor

    • @oghuzbeg4944
      @oghuzbeg4944 Před 2 lety +5

      @@user-fw8ox7kz5t lisede seçmeli olmalı

    • @abaikospen9178
      @abaikospen9178 Před 2 lety

      Haklısın Qandaş Kıpçaktan Ezen-esenlikler

    • @oghuzbeg4944
      @oghuzbeg4944 Před 2 lety

      @@abaikospen9178 sana da kandaş

  • @Schizobateman
    @Schizobateman Před 2 lety +4

    I'm Kyrmchak, it's very similar to our language

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Před 2 lety +6

    Yes 😍

  • @emiceoglu1986
    @emiceoglu1986 Před 2 lety +5

    selam olsun oğuz kaan ın beylerine onların,boylarına.
    dilde birlik, dinde birlik. bir olalım ,yar olalım. kırılmayalım. muhtaç olduğumuz kudret,damarlarımızdaki asil kan, göğsümüzdeki imanda dır

  • @serhaneroglu5402
    @serhaneroglu5402 Před 5 měsíci

    Our grandmothers still call fire od in Anatolia. We have swear words from hundreds of old Turkish languages. We still use them. But I won't write about them here now.

  • @cw4karlschulte661
    @cw4karlschulte661 Před rokem

    Btw i was able to communicate in Azerbaican in Iran fairly well to my surprise. I try to learn more Turkish. But what i learned is an older variety that confuses Turkish youth today: beynelmilel, zira, muhabere, and " yuz numara" are not common today for example. And pronou ciation must be correct. I learned this when asking a shared taxi ( dolmush) driver if he was a dolmuz. Or telling a girl she was a cok guzel kuz. But that was long ago when i was young and none on your videos were born (1965). I later volunteered to live and travel all over Turkeye . Advising government on radio systems. Love that land, people and wonderful food! Karl / Kadri

  • @cw4karlschulte661
    @cw4karlschulte661 Před rokem +5

    Very interesting. Like using old english or proto germanic between Danes and English. I was surprised to understand many old Turkic words, as i know some Turkish, and from listening to easter Turkic music across Asia, from Turkey to Uighur ( may God help those people!). Ben =men, at =jorga at times, giz is kiz bolsun is olsun and so on. Also, Istanbul Turkish has dropped first letters at times, and meanings drift over time and space. So each participant got Gok Turk better than each others daughter language. These are wonderful videos and help to forge family bonds across miles and time. I feel close to Turkic peoples. I could have written this in Osmanli but would take too long. Allaha ismarladik. Karl / Kadri

  • @Silent-observer173
    @Silent-observer173 Před 2 lety +7

    you should feature iraqi turkmen.

  • @ebrusongultopkan3491
    @ebrusongultopkan3491 Před rokem

    Is there a way to learn or study the old turkic language? I don't mean the alphabet but the language itself

    • @SG-tu7ge
      @SG-tu7ge Před 6 měsíci

      prof muharrem ergin kitabını alabilirsin

  • @subhamdas5726
    @subhamdas5726 Před 2 lety

    I think the left person's voice is more similar as shown in eartugrul web series (Noyan character)

  • @Abuunaseeha
    @Abuunaseeha Před 2 lety +4

    Bahadoor you are really missing out in one language called Swahili its 47% Arabic. It's in number 16 in most highly spoken language in the world.

  • @elffd
    @elffd Před 2 lety +6

    Yaşasın türkçe videoo

  • @nomku9735
    @nomku9735 Před 2 lety

    Esenlikler

  • @deanticocombar7529
    @deanticocombar7529 Před 11 měsíci +1

    These three countries understand each other very well 🇹🇲🇦🇿🇹🇷 because they are oghuz turks

  • @wissemaljazairi
    @wissemaljazairi Před 2 lety +11

    I am trying to follow with my A1 level Turkish ... It doesn't work ☺️

    • @nomnom7697
      @nomnom7697 Před 2 lety +9

      Especially when you try to understand proto-Turkish-Turkic. 😀even if you are a native Turkish speaker you have to have a large Turkish/Turkic vocabulary in order to follow :)

    • @safi-sultanbeyli7761
      @safi-sultanbeyli7761 Před 2 lety +2

      Come on. I speak Azerbaijani on a A0,5 level and I understand yavaş, məni sever mü siz, kitab and some other words. 😁

    • @wissemaljazairi
      @wissemaljazairi Před 2 lety +1

      @@safi-sultanbeyli7761
      You're a genius bro 😂.. to be honest I understood few words here and there too

  • @faiqalal27
    @faiqalal27 Před 2 lety +3

    I DONT KNOW WHY I WATCHED IT COMPLETELY WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING A SINGLE WORD.BUT ENJOYED IT. FROM PAKISTAN..GOOD JOB BHADUR

  • @wg611
    @wg611 Před 2 lety +1

    What’s the origin of Bayat? 26:26

  • @Bolshoytsheburek
    @Bolshoytsheburek Před 2 lety +2

    All cool and good nice work, but phonetic spelling is wrong. For example the ñ is a nasal vowel. It should be palatal, like Russian нь / n’. Latinica doesn’t fit to Turkic language. Especially the Kipchak ones in my Opinion. Kirillica fits better to pronounce them.

  • @michael.m-mira2665
    @michael.m-mira2665 Před 2 lety +7

    Yarlıgamak = To pardon
    Bağışlamak (Persian origin?) = To donate
    Affetmek (Af is Arabic origin?) = To forgive
    Also 'Uğuçlamak' 👌

    • @elidrissii
      @elidrissii Před 2 lety +1

      If it's Arabic, it could be عفو? (pronounced 'afw, the ' being a pharyngeal fricative).

    • @michael.m-mira2665
      @michael.m-mira2665 Před 2 lety

      @@elidrissii Turkified Arabic word like Persian 'Afw Kerden'

    • @fenugreekqueen6805
      @fenugreekqueen6805 Před 2 lety +2

      @@elidrissii yes it is.
      Turkish take the action (foreign) noun and add to it "etmek"(or eylemek/kılmak in some rare cases) to form the verb.
      Examples
      Affetmek(arabic عفو )
      Devat etmek ( arabic دعوة)
      Motivasyon etmek (french motivation)

    • @user-pw6xd8vm4h
      @user-pw6xd8vm4h Před 2 lety +2

      @@fenugreekqueen6805 There is not something like 'motivasyon etmek'. It should be motive etmek.

  • @muratozgun2813
    @muratozgun2813 Před 2 lety +3

    18:52 Balık taştın, balık means city. If you think balık you cannot say balık you have to say like baalık, which means bağlık, like bonded place. In turkish, burası beni bağlıyor, here is bonding me. So balık so baalık means bonding place.

  • @yaltavar
    @yaltavar Před rokem +2

    They translated "kök tengri" as sky god, it is wrong. Kök means blue not sky, and tengri means sky not god, so it is "blue sky".

    • @otaggokcer6875
      @otaggokcer6875 Před 14 dny +1

      Exactly.. even in Hungarian "Kek" means "Blue"

  • @BeyzaUykun
    @BeyzaUykun Před rokem +1

    9:47 İn Turkish language there is no difference between Turkic and Turkish. We use Turkish (which is mean Türk in Turkish) for the "Turkic" verb in English that's why he said Turkish. No need to be offended

    • @yaxshibala
      @yaxshibala Před 3 měsíci

      Also some people use “turki” instead of turk but the i comes from Persian and means actually Turkish. So Persian turki means Turkish. As you said in Turkic languages there were no word like Turkic, Originally it was just “Turk languages”(Türk dilleri)