Agreed! Id say Naked, Drummica and the last few from tchakpoum were my favorites for sure. But i am a fan of the natural sounding ones. If i were looking for processed sounds for metal, perhaps, id go Perfect rums or the Sean Pandy or the other Perfect Drums Player kits.
Thanks for watching and commenting my friend -- yes, and there are more but i had to set a limit somewhere. if people seem to like this, ill make a part 2
@@eDrumsandVSTs absolutely! Hopefully I'll have my plugin done by then 🙂 I'm gonna have a free demo with kick, snare, tom, hihat (with cc), crash - multi mic and multi out.
The crisp ringing snare on Virtuocity is my favorite snare tone, even though I played with heavy hitters most of my career. Yeah, sometimes a deep wooden snare is great, but the metallic snap to a tight thin snare is something special. All of the kit except the dead kick on Pop Pink Drums sound amazing. Most tones are really alive, but the kick sounds like someone playing it through a big cotton ball under water. Too fake drum techno for my taste, but I guess some might like it. The Reaper sample is much nicer. The full and musical hollow ring on the bonus Svorzando snare is absolute magic. The rim shots on Buzz are great too. The Simone kit sounds great with all drums, and if one wants a bit more sub on the kick of the first track, it's easily done with EQ, but I love how live it is. The second track kick sounds so much more compressed, but it's still live. There are too many nice toms throughout the video to comment on. I'm an old retired bass player who paid attention to drummers very closely for decades. Nice selection. Thank you for the demonstration.
Thanks for your input! We bassists and drummers must stick together! I agree on all your points -- the reaper kits are extremely good for being free. they are very good anyway!
Really good offerings. Of course having a comprehensive, all-inclusive solution like Addictive Drums make it easier, but you can get really good results with free solutions as well (just less convenient sometimes, though). A few additional free options that are great: AVL Drumkits (originally a Linux plugin but has an SFZ version too) Lorenzo’s Drums V1 (Decent Sampler and EXS) Strike Sound Home Kit (Kontakt, SFZ, TCI available) Gogodze Phu Vol II by Karoryfer (SFZ) Salamander Drumkit (SFZ) DrumGizmo (eg their DRS Kit)
Thnks for the compliment, and yes i LOVE addictive drums 2! Want to make some content with it soon. Thanks for the heads up on those other freebies -- I knew of some of them but that Gogodze kit from karoryfer was one I hadnt seen. I had seen many of his other kits but not that one. Thanks! The others I know -- with varying degrees of usability on edrums, at least for my experience. ie the drumgizmo kits themselves are wonderful -- but I have a bit of a hard time getting good performance playing drumgizmo live with my edrum kit. Have you had success with that?
@@eDrumsandVSTs I have only used the free edition of Addictive Drums 2, which is quite capable for a trial. I'm mostly a "Midi keyboard drummer"😆😆, so no e-drums experience. But I know that the Karyofer developer is quite open to suggestions and feedback (I chatted with him on the dedicated SFZ Dischord a couple of times).
@@esahm373 Oh yes, many keyboard drummers out there -- and some are extreeemely good! Yes he has contributed many nice drum kit sample packs, I enjoy his work -- most of it is very specific themed, which is cool. Ie, big rusty drums etc.
Dude. I will pay for you to make a video on how you got pop pink drums to work with your ekit. I can’t find any midi mapping options and definitely no hihat CC or anything
@@lildrummerboy80 Well I can tell you that if there was no midi mapping in the plugin, I almost certainly used the free VST plugin from CodeFN42 called NoteMapper. See my video on making your hihat work with any plugin for more details on me using that plugin.
Hi I'm blind I can't seem to find the last 2 can I get links? I got naked drums and simone drums. Thanks for sharing them. I am unable to use perfect drums player because it isn't accessible with screen readers.
Hi, thanks for watching. Do you mean the other kits from the french guy? Or which one? The same page actually has simone and a few other kits. Here is black cortex: www.tchackpoum.fr/Samples/BlackCortex.rar Here is the kit after simone www.tchackpoum.fr/Tchackpoum%20ReaperDrummer%20bastard%20lite.rar here is the fourth kit: www.tchackpoum.fr/Tchackpoum%20ReaperDrummer%20signia%20lite.rar Main thing to remember with these is that the black cortex rar file does not contain the "JS" folder. You need the files in there to be put into your Reaper resource folder. Its all in the "readme" included in all the rar files. But black cortext did not have that JS folder with those files. The other kit downloads DO have that folder. Really the only file in that JS directory you really need is the midi_mute_group file. But just put them all in your resource folder in reaper.
Hi thanks for those links. So I was looking for the last one with the cowbell called kit trace as well as the one before it which sounded like led zeppelin it reminded me of the steven slate drums samples in session drummer 3 that came with Sonar 8.5 which I used to use.
@@greegstelii OOHH sorry, i was calling it kit tres but that kit, on the website, is actually called "bastard lite", here is the URL: www.tchackpoum.fr/Tchackpoum%20ReaperDrummer%20bastard%20lite.rar
Yes! I liked it, I only kept it out of this video because I had issues with the Reaper version of SM Drums, and though its on Kontakt I already had a few Kontakt libs and I didnt want to put so much into the Kontakt-required crowd. But i will definitely cover that soon. Thanks for your comment.
Hey buddy I commented earlier asking for help but I have the Reaper Drummer ones set up now! I wanted to try it rather than bother you with help. It's amazing how this guy did this. I think lacking GUI adds more realism, call me crazy lol. It's like top secret recorded drums (even French ones) that's no longer a secret 😂. Love it dude. Love the channel!
haha yes indeed! Oddly enough I only used the hihat script on the first kit -- the other ones I just used their setup, but since he used a roland module when he made this, it mustve been just luck that it worked so well for me. He does say that you can have your MIDI data coming in on channel 1 to make the hihat open and closing be smoother, which was correct -- but again, it may only work for roland modules. Thanks as always MM!
@@eDrumsandVSTs thank you! Yeah I really didn't even know where to map it so I use a note mapper as the first in the effects chain and mapped my drums accordingly that way but I didn't know what I would use for hi-hat notes anyway. I don't remember seeing a CC hat set up or anything. Remember this is totally new to me so it's confusing
@@maidenmopar the whole reaper sampler thing is new to me too! but it was infinitely easier since he had a roland too. I know there are some other kits by others who have used the reaper sampler -- SM Drums is one. I could never get that one working though. Maybe you might if you ever feel like giving it a try.
@@eDrumsandVSTs I just looked for it and it's been taken down on the original site. I found it on a Reaper site but it looks very complicated a bunch of different files so I don't know if I can dive that deep LOL
Thanks for your work but the last one at the frenchy page for Reaper samplematic does not download when I click on it. Also the link provided by drumsand vst down below downloads an empty winrar package.
Thanks for watching and the compliment! I just noticed when i just tried to download it again, (the kit called Black Cortex) it can download, but my Chrome browser declared it potentialy unsafe. If that happened to you, just ignore that and proceed to download. I did not make it, but this guy has been around for years and its just samples and the reaper files. As for your second issue, Im not sure what you meant -- can you rephrase?
this isn't a VST question as much as it is a hardware and audio jack question. Short answer: Doesn't make as much difference as you might think, maybe slight differences and the safe bet is plugging into the soundcard of your computer. Long answer: VSTs always run off of the computer and may route the audio back into a module strictly for monitoring, not running of the module, therefore the processing of the module is irrelevant here and doesn't affect the sound. What MIGHT affect the sound is the quality of audio jack on the module, the quality of the cable used to route the audio and it's length. You could encounter stuff like EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference) causing buzzing in the sound if the cable isn't shielded properly in manufacturing, and the length of the cable might add noise. Also the more devices your route through the more delay you might have, and real-time monitoring becomes hard to achieve. Also the impedance of the headphones determines at what volume the sound clips or distorts and low impedance headphones might not get a lot of volume before they start sounding harsh. Volume gets jumbled up and becomes hard to control when you route through multiple devices with their own volume control. These are all things to take into consideration, as well as the fact that most audio drivers today are less discernable and are of good quality, my recommendation is this: Headphones of 32 Ohms at least A decent soundcard with low latency ASIO drivers Route the sound from the VST (Standalone or through DAW) to the ASIO drivers for low latency monitoring Plug your headphones into the soundcard's "headphones in" output Profit Hope this helps :)
Hi, yes i know those as well! Thanks for commenting though. left out MT Power because its on every other list video. Monster Drums is on many of them, but I might include it in the sequal to this. As well as Scott Drums. I think Scott Drums is a kontakt library though and I was trying to keep the kontakt libraries to a minimum.
Sure I have soooo many lol. Ronald TD-11 powering an A to E conversion. I just don’t see any option for midi mapping inside it. Otherwise sounds great.
@@lildrummerboy80 thats odd...sure theres no midi mapping? im not looking at it currently but if you really want it, you can use the note mapper VST, its free, from CodeFN42, use it before the pop pink VST in the list of plugins. i assume you're using a DAW, i forgot if its a standalone
Genuinely surprised how good some of these sound. Naked Drums sounds very natural.
Agreed! Id say Naked, Drummica and the last few from tchakpoum were my favorites for sure. But i am a fan of the natural sounding ones. If i were looking for processed sounds for metal, perhaps, id go Perfect rums or the Sean Pandy or the other Perfect Drums Player kits.
There's also RW5 Complete Bundle by Ryan Wilson. Pretty good multiformat drum sounds.
Looks nice...is there a free option? or are you just suggesting in general?
NVM i see the free link...thanks for the heads up!
I thought I had all the freebies, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching and commenting my friend -- yes, and there are more but i had to set a limit somewhere. if people seem to like this, ill make a part 2
@@eDrumsandVSTs absolutely! Hopefully I'll have my plugin done by then 🙂 I'm gonna have a free demo with kick, snare, tom, hihat (with cc), crash - multi mic and multi out.
@@ArgonautDrums cant wait to see that man!
The crisp ringing snare on Virtuocity is my favorite snare tone, even though I played with heavy hitters most of my career. Yeah, sometimes a deep wooden snare is great, but the metallic snap to a tight thin snare is something special. All of the kit except the dead kick on Pop Pink Drums sound amazing. Most tones are really alive, but the kick sounds like someone playing it through a big cotton ball under water. Too fake drum techno for my taste, but I guess some might like it. The Reaper sample is much nicer. The full and musical hollow ring on the bonus Svorzando snare is absolute magic. The rim shots on Buzz are great too. The Simone kit sounds great with all drums, and if one wants a bit more sub on the kick of the first track, it's easily done with EQ, but I love how live it is. The second track kick sounds so much more compressed, but it's still live. There are too many nice toms throughout the video to comment on. I'm an old retired bass player who paid attention to drummers very closely for decades. Nice selection. Thank you for the demonstration.
Thanks for your input! We bassists and drummers must stick together! I agree on all your points -- the reaper kits are extremely good for being free. they are very good anyway!
Excellent videos from eDrums and VSTs! Thank you very much! Greetings from Brazil!
Thanks so much for your kind words. Brazil has a very rich history of drumming and percussion. Thanks for watching.
Really good offerings. Of course having a comprehensive, all-inclusive solution like Addictive Drums make it easier, but you can get really good results with free solutions as well (just less convenient sometimes, though).
A few additional free options that are great:
AVL Drumkits (originally a Linux plugin but has an SFZ version too)
Lorenzo’s Drums V1 (Decent Sampler and EXS)
Strike Sound Home Kit (Kontakt, SFZ, TCI available)
Gogodze Phu Vol II by Karoryfer (SFZ)
Salamander Drumkit (SFZ)
DrumGizmo (eg their DRS Kit)
Thnks for the compliment, and yes i LOVE addictive drums 2! Want to make some content with it soon. Thanks for the heads up on those other freebies -- I knew of some of them but that Gogodze kit from karoryfer was one I hadnt seen. I had seen many of his other kits but not that one. Thanks! The others I know -- with varying degrees of usability on edrums, at least for my experience. ie the drumgizmo kits themselves are wonderful -- but I have a bit of a hard time getting good performance playing drumgizmo live with my edrum kit. Have you had success with that?
@@eDrumsandVSTs I have only used the free edition of Addictive Drums 2, which is quite capable for a trial. I'm mostly a "Midi keyboard drummer"😆😆, so no e-drums experience. But I know that the Karyofer developer is quite open to suggestions and feedback (I chatted with him on the dedicated SFZ Dischord a couple of times).
@@esahm373 Oh yes, many keyboard drummers out there -- and some are extreeemely good! Yes he has contributed many nice drum kit sample packs, I enjoy his work -- most of it is very specific themed, which is cool. Ie, big rusty drums etc.
Dude. I will pay for you to make a video on how you got pop pink drums to work with your ekit. I can’t find any midi mapping options and definitely no hihat CC or anything
PC Crashed, sorry for delay in reply -- tell me what is your setup? module, DAW if any, etc.
That’s all good bro. Using Roland td-11 and reaper. I have tons of vsts. This one I couldn’t make work.
@@lildrummerboy80 Well I can tell you that if there was no midi mapping in the plugin, I almost certainly used the free VST plugin from CodeFN42 called NoteMapper. See my video on making your hihat work with any plugin for more details on me using that plugin.
@@eDrumsandVSTsawesome. I will look for that video on your channel
Hi I'm blind I can't seem to find the last 2 can I get links? I got naked drums and simone drums. Thanks for sharing them. I am unable to use perfect drums player because it isn't accessible with screen readers.
Hi, thanks for watching. Do you mean the other kits from the french guy? Or which one? The same page actually has simone and a few other kits. Here is black cortex: www.tchackpoum.fr/Samples/BlackCortex.rar
Here is the kit after simone www.tchackpoum.fr/Tchackpoum%20ReaperDrummer%20bastard%20lite.rar
here is the fourth kit: www.tchackpoum.fr/Tchackpoum%20ReaperDrummer%20signia%20lite.rar
Main thing to remember with these is that the black cortex rar file does not contain the "JS" folder. You need the files in there to be put into your Reaper resource folder. Its all in the "readme" included in all the rar files. But black cortext did not have that JS folder with those files. The other kit downloads DO have that folder.
Really the only file in that JS directory you really need is the midi_mute_group file. But just put them all in your resource folder in reaper.
Hi thanks for those links. So I was looking for the last one with the cowbell called kit trace as well as the one before it which sounded like led zeppelin it reminded me of the steven slate drums samples in session drummer 3 that came with Sonar 8.5 which I used to use.
@@greegstelii OOHH sorry, i was calling it kit tres but that kit, on the website, is actually called "bastard lite", here is the URL: www.tchackpoum.fr/Tchackpoum%20ReaperDrummer%20bastard%20lite.rar
Many thanks for these great finds!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
There is one more decent library for Kontakt and sforzando. It is called SM Drums.
Yes! I liked it, I only kept it out of this video because I had issues with the Reaper version of SM Drums, and though its on Kontakt I already had a few Kontakt libs and I didnt want to put so much into the Kontakt-required crowd. But i will definitely cover that soon. Thanks for your comment.
Hey buddy I commented earlier asking for help but I have the Reaper Drummer ones set up now! I wanted to try it rather than bother you with help. It's amazing how this guy did this. I think lacking GUI adds more realism, call me crazy lol. It's like top secret recorded drums (even French ones) that's no longer a secret 😂. Love it dude. Love the channel!
haha yes indeed! Oddly enough I only used the hihat script on the first kit -- the other ones I just used their setup, but since he used a roland module when he made this, it mustve been just luck that it worked so well for me. He does say that you can have your MIDI data coming in on channel 1 to make the hihat open and closing be smoother, which was correct -- but again, it may only work for roland modules. Thanks as always MM!
@@eDrumsandVSTs thank you! Yeah I really didn't even know where to map it so I use a note mapper as the first in the effects chain and mapped my drums accordingly that way but I didn't know what I would use for hi-hat notes anyway. I don't remember seeing a CC hat set up or anything. Remember this is totally new to me so it's confusing
@@maidenmopar the whole reaper sampler thing is new to me too! but it was infinitely easier since he had a roland too. I know there are some other kits by others who have used the reaper sampler -- SM Drums is one. I could never get that one working though. Maybe you might if you ever feel like giving it a try.
@@eDrumsandVSTs I will look for it thanks. I like messing with this stuff. A couple of those reaper drum kits I love already!
@@eDrumsandVSTs I just looked for it and it's been taken down on the original site. I found it on a Reaper site but it looks very complicated a bunch of different files so I don't know if I can dive that deep LOL
Great video!!! Thanks :)
Very kind of you -- thank you!
Thanks for your work but the last one at the frenchy page for Reaper samplematic does not download when I click on it. Also the link provided by drumsand vst down below downloads an empty winrar package.
Thanks for watching and the compliment! I just noticed when i just tried to download it again, (the kit called Black Cortex) it can download, but my Chrome browser declared it potentialy unsafe. If that happened to you, just ignore that and proceed to download. I did not make it, but this guy has been around for years and its just samples and the reaper files.
As for your second issue, Im not sure what you meant -- can you rephrase?
Fantastic stuff! There was lots I didn't know about in here. Thanks for the rundown. subbed \M/
Awesome! Glad to shed some light on these. There are others as well, ill try to do a sequel soon. Thanks for the sub!
Thanks a lot !
Excellent
Thanks!
Newbie question. When using vst’s do you seem to get better audio quality and volume plugging your headphones into your module or computer?
this isn't a VST question as much as it is a hardware and audio jack question.
Short answer: Doesn't make as much difference as you might think, maybe slight differences and the safe bet is plugging into the soundcard of your computer.
Long answer: VSTs always run off of the computer and may route the audio back into a module strictly for monitoring, not running of the module, therefore the processing of the module is irrelevant here and doesn't affect the sound. What MIGHT affect the sound is the quality of audio jack on the module, the quality of the cable used to route the audio and it's length. You could encounter stuff like EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference) causing buzzing in the sound if the cable isn't shielded properly in manufacturing, and the length of the cable might add noise. Also the more devices your route through the more delay you might have, and real-time monitoring becomes hard to achieve.
Also the impedance of the headphones determines at what volume the sound clips or distorts and low impedance headphones might not get a lot of volume before they start sounding harsh. Volume gets jumbled up and becomes hard to control when you route through multiple devices with their own volume control. These are all things to take into consideration, as well as the fact that most audio drivers today are less discernable and are of good quality, my recommendation is this:
Headphones of 32 Ohms at least
A decent soundcard with low latency ASIO drivers
Route the sound from the VST (Standalone or through DAW) to the ASIO drivers for low latency monitoring
Plug your headphones into the soundcard's "headphones in" output
Profit
Hope this helps :)
Ninth one looks good for metal
Yes, a few here that would work for metal, for sure.
Liquid Death Snare
jamstix4
other free:
MT Power DrumKit 2
MONSTER DRUMS
Scott Drums by Ivy Audio
Hi, yes i know those as well! Thanks for commenting though. left out MT Power because its on every other list video. Monster Drums is on many of them, but I might include it in the sequal to this. As well as Scott Drums. I think Scott Drums is a kontakt library though and I was trying to keep the kontakt libraries to a minimum.
I couldn’t get pop punk drums to work with an ekit
what kind of kit do you have and have you ever used a VST or plugin with it before?
Sure I have soooo many lol. Ronald TD-11 powering an A to E conversion. I just don’t see any option for midi mapping inside it. Otherwise sounds great.
@@lildrummerboy80 thats odd...sure theres no midi mapping? im not looking at it currently but if you really want it, you can use the note mapper VST, its free, from CodeFN42, use it before the pop pink VST in the list of plugins. i assume you're using a DAW, i forgot if its a standalone
No mixing tab or anything. And I am. I’m using reaper. So strange.