What If Clefable, Sableye, & Zoroark ACTUALLY got into Unite? (ft. @realmwarss & @PlatinumRhythm)

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  • @nojorooney
    @nojorooney Před rokem +23

    It’s weird how no one is addressing the fact that illusion is way less useful then originally thought, instead of zoroark revolving around illusion it’s pretty much optional and that’s a bummer to me, so I agree with everything you said about it

    • @melindamuller4466
      @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

      To be fair, Illusion is VERY underwhelming in the main line games as well.

    • @nojorooney
      @nojorooney Před rokem +6

      @@melindamuller4466 but at least zoroark’s kit revolved around it, in this game it kind of just exists and probably wasn’t added beyond anything other than fan service and the fact that it is zoro’s only ability

    • @melindamuller4466
      @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

      @@nojorooney I think it's pretty faithful to the games, that's all. I know the video on here made it really central, but already back then I knew that that would never be the actual implementation. No one actually uses Zoroark for Illusion, it's a gimmick that may work at the beginning with the right team, but any most any strategy falls as the game progresses. You use Zoroark as a fast attacker, and for fast U turn.

    • @nojorooney
      @nojorooney Před rokem

      @@melindamuller4466 I’ve seen a couple people do it before this video but I don’t actively seek out zoroark in competitive play so I didn’t know but I still kinda feel like they could have made zoroark’s illusion more important instead of just a fun gimmick because it’s supposed to be more than just a fun gimmick, zoroark is the master of illusion, I’m not mad about it since I’m not even gonna main zoroark but I feel like being true to the lore is priority over being true to competitive play

    • @melindamuller4466
      @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

      @@nojorooney It is in the lore, yeah, but Gamefreak kinda dropped the ball first here.

  • @Marshadow01
    @Marshadow01 Před rokem +6

    Mother of Arceus Sableyes moveset is incredible. When it comes to movesets Sableye is the winner of the three in my eyes

  • @megspitzer9406
    @megspitzer9406 Před rokem +5

    Now we need Lycanroc, Primarina, Obstagoon, and Serperior in the roster next!

  • @Nonblue_
    @Nonblue_ Před rokem +2

    I'm happy for Clefable comming back to Pokemon Unite from the beta/alpha (or whatever version it was) trailer

  • @lildplushandgames7959

    Awesome video I hope you find more Pokémon for this

  • @sandofman4161
    @sandofman4161 Před rokem +1

    Sabeleye release be like: THE DAY OF RECKONING HAS COME

  • @WolfofKaos
    @WolfofKaos Před rokem +9

    As a Zoroark fan, I really wish that Illusion had more of an impact in the overall kit, since that ability defines the Pokemon so much. But at the same time, I feel that the reliance on Illusion in the main Pokemon games really drags Zoroark down because it's more often a miss than a hit. Especially no thanks to Team Preview destroying any sense of surprise Zoroark could've brought in a battle. So, I'm rather fine with Illusion being this optional ability that can be used to catch careless players off-guard and Zoroark just being a constant dasher. It's a bit like how Monkey King in Dota 2 has the ability to disguise himself as a tree, courier, rune, or items, but his kit is based much more around jumping across trees and pouncing onto unsuspecting enemies. The disguise never really plays out well in games, at best netting MK a free kill on a newbie or careless player, but most often resulting in MK feeding the enemy.
    Though I will hope that Illusion as it is in Unite works out in practice, and if not that the ability gets reworked to be more effective. Either by going the route you designed or something else. I personally think a good approach would be for Illusion to have Zoroark copy the appearance of an ally, in addition to wild Pokemon, which I feel would make the ability very effective in psyching out the enemy. For instance, they could see a seemingly weak Pokemon scoring points on the top of the map while the rest of the team are down, one goes off to deal with that "split-pusher" only to get dashed into oblivion by Zoroark. Among other mind games.

    • @TheMalikp1
      @TheMalikp1 Před rokem +1

      Well keep in mind that while yes, team preview does kinda show the opponent the Zoroark, the player can still play mind games to use it effectively. Illusion doesn't drag it down, you just gotta be smart about it.

    • @melindamuller4466
      @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

      @@TheMalikp1 I don't think it's something worthwile beyond the start of the battle. Any small difference in chip damage, maybe a difference in the way steath rock deal damage, etc. ruins any surprise.

    • @TheMalikp1
      @TheMalikp1 Před rokem

      @@melindamuller4466 That's assuming every opponent you face has stealth rock. And we have items and Pokémon to counter it. It's really boils down to strategy of what you're working with.

    • @melindamuller4466
      @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

      @@TheMalikp1 Stealth rock is one of the most crucial moves in pokemon singles, and Zoroark is not worth it in doubles, basically at all. If you run Heavy Duty Boots, that's already a mon you can't be disguised as, or it will immediately tell the foe it's the Zoroark when you take the damage (same with spikes, toxic spikes, but that's less common), and if you wear it, it's even worse because now you can only disguise as Pokemon with magic guard or HDB themselves. It's a nice gimmick, but not Zoroarks full competitive identity.

    • @TheMalikp1
      @TheMalikp1 Před rokem

      @@melindamuller4466 You're still assuming a lot here my man. It may be a crucial item, but that doesn't mean every opponent you face is going to have it, especially if they run a theme with their team (hey, that rhymed. I guess I'm a poet and didn't even know it, lol.). You're focusing too hard on that one move that not a lot of Pokémon can learn, let alone any Pokémon that can learn it will have it. Pokémon teams isn't about being overreliant on what Pokémon can do, it's all of your Pokémon, that's the concept of a team. Unless you're doing one or two or anything less than a full team, than I can see it struggling in that.

  • @duncanfoutz6857
    @duncanfoutz6857 Před rokem +2

    I was one of the first 20 to recamend a Zoroark video. I am so excited for when he is officially available!

    • @thutgf
      @thutgf Před rokem +1

      Top 20 people to request a Pokémon that actually got in the game

  • @cesarsandelis6379
    @cesarsandelis6379 Před rokem +1

    Cofagrigus
    Liepard
    Kingler
    Toxtricity
    Reuniclus
    Silvally

  • @Galaxyturtle4
    @Galaxyturtle4 Před rokem +1

    Requests:
    Boltund
    Tropius
    Sawsbuck
    Breloom
    Dedenne
    Hawlucha
    Archeops
    Gourgeist
    Lickilicky
    Vivillon

  • @Gliscorboi
    @Gliscorboi Před rokem +1

    Hi Brawlfan a Pokémon I wanna see in Unite is Lycanroc or Luxray I hope you’ll do a video on one of these maybe people will request hopefully

  • @NovaTMOD
    @NovaTMOD Před rokem

    I am excited for the gem gremlin... I can't wait to be a MASSIVE troll XD

  • @TheMountyPresents
    @TheMountyPresents Před rokem

    Clefable: *BFG has entered the chat* xD

  • @sangitamondal4714
    @sangitamondal4714 Před rokem +1

    Pokamon unite idea ( what If blaziken was in Pokemon unite)

  • @jaydenwilliamson2335
    @jaydenwilliamson2335 Před rokem

    28:58 lol

  • @sammybeckford9435
    @sammybeckford9435 Před rokem

    smash wishlist:
    1. blaze (sonic the hedgehog) you haven't done a sonic charictar in a while so that would be nice :]
    2. deku (my hero acidaimia you know the anime)
    3. trunks (dragon ball z)
    And for unite I only have one request infernape
    thanks for reading and keep up the good work!

  • @ameerevans1634
    @ameerevans1634 Před rokem +1

    I want to request a unite video of CHESTNAUGHT DEFENDER and something about spiky shield please?

  • @fresh_fresh421
    @fresh_fresh421 Před rokem +1

    Could you do if Murtaugh (the name of the cat from stray) was in smash bros?

  • @darkmodeenjoyer3367
    @darkmodeenjoyer3367 Před rokem

    I was again ask for a movement for ninjask and shedinja for the...
    How many times was it.

  • @Camizard1017
    @Camizard1017 Před rokem +1

    I'm pretty sure Sableye's moves were mixed up. From the leaked gameplay I've seen Thief upgrades into Knock Off or Shadow Sneak and Astonish upgrades into Confuse Ray or Feint Attack I might be wrong though but that's what I remember

  • @Sindak923
    @Sindak923 Před rokem

    If you do another “What If They Were In Smash”, I suggest making spamton ^^

  • @melindamuller4466
    @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

    Spoiler from the test server?:
    Apparently, at least on the test server, Draining Kiss is busted on Clefable. It's more like an aura of effect, so you hit multiple opponents, stuff like bees/bears/birds heal a ton that way.

  • @What_are_you_doing.
    @What_are_you_doing. Před rokem

    Zoarark is now in unite

  • @Jac-io6de
    @Jac-io6de Před rokem +1

    You called zoroark

  • @melindamuller4466
    @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

    Spoiler from the test server?:
    The Unite move of Clefable also can call something like Explosion.

  • @AquosKyle
    @AquosKyle Před rokem

    What If Darkrai Was In Pokémon Unite?

  • @eway44
    @eway44 Před rokem +1

    Make what if Omori was in smash?

  • @Annearchy_68
    @Annearchy_68 Před rokem

    Do what if bill cypher was in smash

  • @pokemonfan4315
    @pokemonfan4315 Před rokem

    What if vileplume was in pokemon untie

  • @elyaselementary3286
    @elyaselementary3286 Před rokem

    I BEG YOU, can you please make a What if he was in smash with Elfilin with Kirby and the forgotten land? He has so much power and so little protagonism in the game that he deserves to be in smash along with Kirby. PLEASE I BEG YOUUUUU

  • @flyaway8483
    @flyaway8483 Před rokem

    What if Clefable, Sableye, & Zoroark were in smash?

    • @jackoboi42
      @jackoboi42 Před rokem

      But what if they were in unite

  • @melindamuller4466
    @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

    Spoiler from the test server?:
    Don't forget that Clefs Unite move also heals. It's only one move and the ones mentioned work exactly like the versions already in.

  • @openinginawe5518
    @openinginawe5518 Před rokem

    Idk what you're talking about,Clefairy is scary

  • @parkerpeter9218
    @parkerpeter9218 Před rokem +1

    no views, 4 likes, nice

  • @rextheboxer1163
    @rextheboxer1163 Před rokem

    It's kinda weird that there's only one special attacker Speedster, Jolteon could work really well

    • @BrawlFan1
      @BrawlFan1  Před rokem

      You think Jolteon should be Melee? Being a Speedster means its has to be Melee.

    • @rextheboxer1163
      @rextheboxer1163 Před rokem

      @@BrawlFan1 Could be both, actually
      With Swift replacing moves being ranged and other one's being melee

    • @BrawlFan1
      @BrawlFan1  Před rokem

      @@rextheboxer1163 I think it’s better off just being an Attacker, since Attackers are just Ranged Speedsters. Likewise that Speedsters are Melee Attackers.

  • @melindamuller4466
    @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

    Spoiler from the things we've already seen:
    Sableye is Melee, not ranged.

  • @melindamuller4466
    @melindamuller4466 Před rokem

    I think Sableye is mean, but does neither big damage, nor has it massive survivability.