HISTORICALLY ACCURATE BEAUTY AND THE BEAST
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2022
- I finally got around to making another historically accurate Disney princess video. Disney's 1991 Beauty and The Beast is a classic and I love the 18th century inspired setting. However, It was a bit difficult pinpointing an exact decade for this, as with most Disney films. I really enjoyed finding some of the concept art in the film during my research. There was a lot to go through in this film. Please excuse my hair in this. I had attempted an 18th century look, but the sock in my hair had fallen out as well as many of the bobby pins.
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Maybe beast invented the tail coat in this universe, since he has a tail. So all of his coats must be tail coats.
I can't believe I hadn't thought of that before!!!
@@iamvictoriarae my headcanon for Beauty and the Beast would be different. It's 1st and 2nd rococo. So the beast gets cursed in late XVIII century somwhere during Marie Antoinette's rule (he shouldn't be a little child, it's a mistake), being some royalty away from the throne line (there would be a lot of like "king's brother's lover's son" royalty chilling out in countless estates all around Loire). So he and his palace and the estate around would be enchanted and then the French Revolution goes - but the Beast's castle would stay intact as nobody could get to there because of the curse - the same way it's in Sleeping beauty. I also actually recall young aristocrats from the era have their own long hair powdered and pomaded and braided with ribbons. And here comes XIX century and the 2nd rococo when wealthy merchants would try to copy old aristocratic lifestyle and fashions, but with round skirts. And it's the era Belle comes from, so that's why she has crinoline and unpowdered hair and why they could really normally marry each other with no social problems. So she would be amazed seeing and experiencing the real thing not "a-la Ludovicus XVI", but real rococo.
@@annasolovyeva1013 I love your idea!
One thing to remember about Gaston's ballet tights is that this movie came out around the same time Hollywood had Hercules running around in skintight leather pants.
So its very historically accurate for the 90s then!
I believe it was called ‘drizzling’ in English- I don’t know what the French term was, but it was a **hugely** popular hobby of the time, & especially into the 19th c - I don’t think they just threw the gold thread out, though- because, well- it was _gold_ , or silver.
There were apparently complaints about officers uniforms especially being ruined by women who sat behind them in church & at other functions- they had little scissors, snippers & such- to swiftly remove the gold thread, to put into purses worn for the purpose (as opposed to ordinary reticules that women normally had) - & when they had a sufficient amount to equal a good quantity of real gold- took it to dealers.
I really wish I could remember where I read about it...
loved it! i love how you kept belles dress gold instead of mustard yellow or champagne coloured as most do when doing this topic (can you image an intire dress of goldthread) and you are so talented when it comes to drawing! would love to see you do cinderella next (even tho her ballgown was based in dior id love to see what your researcha bilities can do with it) :)
Thank you! And I’ve always loved Cinderella’s dress. I’ll have to look into it :)
@@iamvictoriarae historically it would be golden and silver thread, along with fur lined shoes and very heavy makeup (that's why she won't be recognised).
Entire dresses of golden and silver thread did happen on a historical royalty. Medieval Byzantia was famous for making good weaven patterned sillk brocade, for instance.
May I just say, your eyes are stunning, and go with the dress so well! I was just watching your sleeping beauty analysis yesterday. I didn’t even realize that the sleeping beauty one has been up for almost a year.
Thank you! And yes it went by fast!
I'm going to say something that'll blow your mind. Beauty and the beast? It's based on a true story. The beast was actually a man who had a condition that caused hair to grow on his body (all over his face) and was actually kidnapped as a young boy because he was thought to be a monster. So he was given as a gift to the french king who wanted to experiment by seeing if the ’beast' could learn like a man.
Years later king died, but his wife wanted to see if the 'beast' would produce more 'beasts'. So she had one of her most beautiful single ladies-in-waiting marry him (Her reasoning was why make it harder to want to copulate).
Anyways their story takes place in the 1500s.
that's rly interesting, could u link me to a source on that pls?
The Beast was a magically disguised Prince, but he wasn't necessarily in line to be the King. There were plenty of royals and nobles with the title 'Prince' in 1700s France. And they didn't all live in Versaille, the country was littered with castles and royal mansions that different noble families lived in. For example, Château de Chambord, south of Paris, looks very similar to the movie version, and it even has a moat!
The Beast could have been Louis François I, Prince of Conti, who was born in 1717, which would make him 23 years old in 1740. Or he could have been Louis Philippe I, Duke of Orléans, who was born in 1725, and had the title 'The First Prince of the Blood'. He would have been 15 years old in 1740.
My headcanon for Beauty and the beast is 1st and 2nd rococo. So him being cursed and the estate being closed and forgotten takes place not long before the French Revolution (there's a lot of spoiled nobility and even off-side royalty in this era or period). And Belle lives in XIX century, during the era of 2nd roccoco, when wealthy merchants enjoy aristocratic lifestyle and fashion.
I love these sorts of videos you do 🥰 Can you please do Princess Fiona? No one really talks about her 🥲
Oooh! I hadn’t even thought about doing non Disney princesses. Fiona would be cool
GREAT Video! Loooove these. Also, sidenote, actually to be historical he doesn’t have to be Louis, as there were quite a lot of Princes of the blood in France (related to the ruling royal family in Versailles) who didn’t live in Paris but in other castles in the realm so… AND he was always called a prince not a King, so that’s actually historically accurate. Just thought I‘d point it out for anyone wondering.
Just a little comment on your video, I adore you, really and it's funny, as a french, to see your vision of historical France.
In fact Versaille was really unique and most of the little lords out of versaille or even the villagers far from the capital didn't follow the trends (no money nor time to waste, the wig really was for Versaille) so it was hightly possible not to be at the last fashion and even to be centuries late in fashion for the farest territories. Regarding the disney, the village's achitecture, the weather and the castle, they must be in Alsace, near the border with Germany.
Regardless of this point, your analysis is completly correct but we know disney taste for historical fashion ah ah Thanks for this video, you'r so beautifull, the dress is amazing !
i'm really curious to know where did you find this idea of throwing away the broderie ah ah what a strange idea ;)
This was a great analysis! Much better than the Glamour one :)
Thank you, I tried my best!
Your take on the gold dress was beautifully done. If only they had you for the live action
I frequently give outfits like Belle, Elsa, Tiana, and Cinderella's a pass since there was magic involved, but it's fascinating to see that the concept art was much more historically accurate (similar to Frozen).
i rewatched beauty and the beast recently and realized how ridiculous it is that adam got punished for being a snobby ELEVEN YEAR OLD
Nice video! I love the fact that you add drawings of the clothes on the Disney images.
Two little informations I'd like to add (as a french girl) : The prince can perfectly be a prince without being the king's son because in France, the king's first son was called "Le Dauphin" (he owned the Dauphiné) and his brothers were called by thir titles like "Duc d'Angoulême" etc...The ones we called princes were actually cousins of the king, the "princes du sang" like the Prince de Condé, Prince de Conti, Prince de Lamballe, Prince de Dombes, etc...
And about the wigs: sometimes people weren't wearing wigs but only powder. It helped the hair not to look greasy. 😉
Now, for the golden dress you're wearing, I think it is a good idea. I believe all the dresses on the castle must be from Louis XIV's reign. He died in 1715, if we are on 1740 the curse occured in 1730. We can imagine the dress belonged to an ancestor of the prince. Belle probably only saw noble people in her books so she cannot know how the noble ladies dresses look like in 1740. Neither can Madame De Garderobe (she only knows about 1730 and before) so we imagine Belle used a Louis XIV's dress and had it slightly modified.
One thing that's always messed up is that the front closing would have been with a Stomacher or revealing the decorative stays, because the front closing like a One line in the front (I don't know how to explain it) appears in the 1770's
Edit: that's called front closing and before the 1770's, gowns were pinned to the stays and unite with a Stomacher, just like I said
Also do megara from Hercules
Were Belle's gloves historically accurate? I've always been curious about this considering the Disney remake removed her gloves and haven't really gotten an answer as to why they chose to remove them.
Beauty and the beast take place in the 1890s, not in the 1700s because during the song "Bonjour" Belle tells the Baker that she just finished reading Jack and the beanstalk but she mentions an ogre and not a giant, and the only jack and the beanstalk fairytale with an ogre was written in 1890
Yeah I just recently read a tumblr post where someone had a lot of proof that the movie is more likely set in a 1889/1890 setting and tbh although I loved the post for it´s details and research, I hate it now. I always imagined that the movie is, like the original story, set in the mid 18th century and tbh for me 1750s is also a lot more romantic and fantastical and fairytale- and princesscore T_T
@@moritzmartini4132 anyone can think what they want. For me also the Disney animated beauty and the beast was set in the 18th century because It Is more princess-like,but now i learn of all these proofs of a 19th century setting so i accept that.
@@giuseppecoretti98 I know it´s just a movie but I just really love the movie, the story and romance and I really liked that the 2017 adaptation took rococo inspiration. Bu then figuring out that the orignal movie has more of a 18890 setting is just "frustrating"? Idk, it makes the 2017 kind off inaccurate since it doesn´t fit the visuals of the orignal movie (same "problem" I have with the live action Cindrella from 2015) and imo it makes the story "too modern" and imo fairytales are so cool bc theyre so romantic and fantastical and "so far away" in time. I know it´s probably just me XD
you're so pretty oh my god also YEEEES! this analysis was so good!
Beauty & The Beast came out in '91 followed by Aladdin in '92, Nightmare Before Christmas in '93, and The Lion King in '94.
i really enjoyed watching this, tysm!
I'm so glad!
I hope you do Hercules one day. I know you've done a few, but I wish you would do ALL the major Disney movies. I would binge watch all of them. ESPECIALLY Hercules. That's my favorite.
They should have used the gown you are wearing, cuz neither the 1991 goregous gown, neither 2017 horrible dress were rococo accurate 🤣 (ps I know you sleeves are more mid 17th than 18th century, but still it would fit)
I had always read the fan Theory before they had made it cannon in the live action that they were frozen in the 18th century and they didn't get unfrozen nearly another century if you read the original Briar Rose story that tends to be a very common Trope and a lot of old Grimm fairy tales
So for me disney's beauty and the beast of 1991 take place in the 1890s, maybe in 1891 or 1892 when this story of Jack and the beanstalk with an ogre become popular
I love this kind of content.
Me too!
Good video and I love the historical accurate costumes.
Thank you!
@@iamvictoriarae I have edits of Human Lumiere in historical costume and Cogsworth in white hair
The one element here to consider is how Adam has been essentially forgotten for like… 10-15 years?
I’m surprised he even had a coat, tails or not. Belle is apparently wearing dresses that belonged to his mother or a deceased sister if I remember anything from some deep lore bonus materials correctly and that isn’t headcanon. Maybe it’s more accurate for their clothing styles to be “off” because they’re playing house in a castle where most of their staff don’t have hands and the last time Adam would have seen court was as a little boy. Belle being the outcast daughter of a weirdo by her culture’s standards would be eccentric and not used to money. So yeah, she has no idea what “accurate” meant for the court and she’s probably doing whatever occurs to her with the clothes that didn’t rot in the wardrobe.
Please do Ariel Victoria PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!! I’d be ever so grateful
Love the dress you are wearing
Maybe Adam isn’t THE Prince but just a normal royal. Like he’s royal and noble and enough to be wealthy and live in a castle but he’s not too royal to get executed and be a threat for the revolutionists. Is that possible? Or maybe he was the Prince but when he got cursed the crown went to someone else from his family and they all spread the rumour that he died? I dont know
It would be funny if the beast was one of the survivors of the Frenchrevolution, who survived because he turned into a monster, and since the revolution happened during those ten years when the prince was a beast, no one longed for or remembered he.
Can you do pixar’s brave next? :)
Can You do Cinderella Next???
The live-action 'Beauty and the Beast' takes place in 1759. Assume this is the case for the animated feature film. Also, 'the Prince' is a son of 'Louis XV.' But, because the story is fictional, it is a son whose line died out before 'the French Revolution' takes place. Oh, and the townsfolk of Villenueve are correct in assuming that Belle is a princess. She and Louis-Adam are French Bourbon cousins having 'Louis XIV' for a common ancestor. Her Christian birth name would be 'Élisabeth' or 'Isabelle.'
Historically accurate cinderella next
I know it’s supposed to be 18th century but I’ve always gotten more 1850s vibes from Belle’s dress
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Knee-high breeches.
even if I had changed the fact that he was a French prince to another type of noble... so he could have his castle in the middle of the forest... and be bewitched at 11 without anyone wondering where he is 🤣
Her name is Belle - Bell
Disney's Beauty and the beast take place in the 1890s not in 18th century
Maybe there’s some alternate history shenanigans going on where the French Revolution didn’t happen. So it’s also possible that the American Revolution didn’t happen either since the American Revolution inspired the French one. And all of the rest of the problems? Just ignore them.
Love this vidoe although kind off false bc apparently (when you look at stuff like fashion but also inventions and technology) the movie is set in 1889/1890 (or at least in a 1889 setting) and tbh this information kinda ruined my day T_T still a great video
King Louis the 16th?
Generic ye olde time I think is the villagers style. 😆
I think so too