Almost All Random Numbers Are Actually Fake
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Hi Thoughty2 I’m the man behind the secret messages you have on all of your videos. If everyone can contact Thoughty2 and ask him about why he’s been doing this I can ask him why myself I’ve been trying to get in contact with you for a while.
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@@therock5878 ?
3rd comment :)
Is Bitcoin still open for attack? Can your coins be stolen?
“Forgive is our rage quits; as we forgive those who rage quit against us” that part killed me, lol!!
I even said "amen" at the end... lmao
2:50 Ok so who was the smartass? In 8,500 students asked to pick a number 1-10, somebody said 0 hahaha
Haha I thought that too 🤣
They never specified integer numbers, I would've said 1.4167442132
I would have picked the square root of pi myself.
diversity quotas...
In all fairness there's a 0 in 10
"Pretending we are working, when in reality we are in our 5th straight hour lost in a youtube vortex" dayuuum Arran you're gunna make me cry now
Luckily the center of a vortex is calm. I am not lost i am at the right spot
I've actually noticed that more people pick 7 when asked to mane a number between 1 and 10 but never realised that 10 was so low
Technically 1 & 10 are not numbers you can chose. By using the word BETWEEN - eligible numbers would be 2 to 9. Think of it like a goal post in foot ball, 1 & 10 are the uprights, you can only kick the ball BETWEEN them or it is not counted, sure you can hit them but it needs to be deflected to pass in between them.
Some people like Kevin Samuels actually says to his clients: 1-10 and you cannot pick 7.
just ask the girl at school who acts weird and quirky and says "ha im so random ahahah"
Good one😁
I know that girl. She is not as random as she claims because that is all she says and thinks.
Oh and the one that also says "I'm such a potat" kind of girl.
Good one 😂
I don't get it. For real. Feel free to explain it to me.
"How do Computers Generate Random Numbers?"
Was the original name of the video
interesting
Yeah even I noticed
by using the time variable coz it never stays the same
@@johndripper he went back in time to change it 😂
@@johndripper
You mean like opening up a terminal and using the printed output of "date | md5sum" as your new password on that random new site you just thought of signing up for?
Feel bad for whoever named ‘nonce generation’
Yap
Lmao
I don't know why I'm thinking of Ricky Gervais and the Oscars right now lmao
LMAO!
Thoughty2: talks about hacking
Also Thoughty2: shows HTML code in the background
Lol
I thought of seven when he said pick a number from 1 to 10 lol
Same
i thought of 10 now i feel special
I always think 7 because it was always the number I forgot about when I was younger, completely skipped it even when I was counting just too say 7, I still missed it every time man. 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10
RNGesus was not with you this day.
Snap
"How Do Computers Generate Random Numbers?"
"Why Is It Impossible to Think of a Random Number?"
"How Random Numbers Stop the Internet From Falling Apart"
"Why 7 Is the Least Random of All Numbers"
"Why Is It So Difficult to Generate Random Numbers?"
Projected next title:
"Who is RNGesus?"
on Christmas Day.
Merry Andersonmas by the way.
There's quite a few ways to get a PRNG, there's also ways to get random numbers without using a software generation approach.
The quest to finding the most click baity title
What if Aran tried a random title generator? 🤔
Not to forget "Why True Randomness Is Impossible"
It seems like they alternate between the titles rather rapidly, have seen some of them more than once.
It pisses me off so much that he changes his title so often all the time. Trying so hard to click bait. Way too hard.
As a kid my younger brother realized that I always chose 7 when asking him to choose a number between 1-10. I had been unaware of this until he pointed it out when we were preteens. Blew my mind
Most humans pick 7 when asked for 1-10 or to rate something 1-10 7 is almost always the answer
9:08 that's the best reference I have ever seen
like seriously how did I never notice this
Thoughty2 sounds like 42
and 42 is the answer to the meaning of life in
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
nice dude.
its because he used to dress like agent 42 from the hitman series
Did you really not see that before? I can’t tell these days wether people are being sarcastic or not.
@@peterdavidasige8073 Being distracted is easy
RNGesus who lies in chances
Hallowed be thy name
Thy Luck be come
Thy will be done as it is on competitive as it is on gacha
Please give us this day, our daily drops
And forgive us for the random crits
As we forgive who spawnkilled us
And lead us not into whaling, but deliver us from empty wallet
Ramen
*RAMEN*
Wait. We're supposed to forgive spawnkillers? No wonder my rng is shit. Do we also have to forgive modders?
i'll use this as a copypasta. thank you very much xD
@@aceundead4750 hmm... depends on how you describe modders tho.
-Single player modder is fine
-Coop multi vs ai like risk of rain 2 and payday 2 is fine (if you dont like, you can just leave)
-Competitive Multiplayer.... death to them, abusing and trolling them shall please the gacha gods and bring us plently 5 stars
(And crits and whatever suit the needs)
aa yes the holy gospel of the rng church
Did you know that Spotify had to reprogram their shuffle algorithm, because users reported that it didn't feel random enough. They often reported hearing songs in familiar patterns, so Spotify made the shuffle option less random, to make it feel more random
It is also -almost- impossible to think of what Thoughty2 will title his video next.
Thoughty2 - "You can't hack into the radioactive decay of Uranium."
Oppenheimer - "Here, hold my slide rule"
Gets $2 Billion from government, proceeds to call up even nerdier friends.
Just Kidding.
Asked to pick a number between 1-10... yet according to that chart some people picked 0 😂
Time machine mustache is the only logical explanation as to why Thoughty2 is so smart.
The moustache is an alien that controls people to speak through their mouth.
"Hey 42 here" Never Gets Old.
The most puzzling part of this video was referring to the NSA as “the good guys”
How do Computers Generate Random Numbers?
Me: How do I generate random answers for mutiple choice questions
Christmas miracle his mustache gave us more videos
2020. Hahaha delete video
I doubt that we can truly know that some things are truly random. I think it was concluded they were truly random based off experiments conducted in the same way yielding diffrent result. But that does not mean it's random, just that we are unaware of one or more causes of effect.
Assume that true randomness exists, then in theory if we were to rewind time without changing anything and press play, the universe would play out diffrently that it did the first time. Would be very strange if that's true, like watching the same movie on vhs twice but it ends diffrently the second time.
As long as you're kind and rewind it's all good
As far we're aware, quantum mechanics is truly random. We don't know what state a quantum superposition will be in until we observe it, and then it will collapse to whatever we observed. If we could rewind time in the manner you say, then if we keep 'replaying' the same quantum observation infinitely, we would theoretically see each outcome at least once, as the probability of not seeing it would tend to zero. It wouldn't change the outcome of a movie, though, unless you reverted to point far enough back that there wouldbe a microscopically noticeable difference (just a single quantum difference would have (very close to) no impact on the real, classically-defined world.
Well ACTUALLY the first random number generator was shortly after the beginning of the universe when quantum mechanics started 🧐🤓 ...... 🤣
Started? That's a bold claim :P
I mustache you a question. Do you have a twin without a mustache or is it just you? I ask because you almost look like a completely different person without one. Awesome channel tho, one of my favs.
I thought the older videos were narrated by someone else. He looks completely different. Older looking I think. I’m still not sure those are the same ppl.
@@jessicastern8597 he acted quite differently as well, and his style of videos was completely different. I've watched him change over the years. I do prefer his old style
That prayer at the end had me in tears, I will now pray this before every game of Apex Legends.
Video games help the mind cloud nine
I’ve been waiting most of my adult life for someone to make a video about the number 7 . I’ve never believed any facts or stories that people say if it’s got a 7 in it . Thank you and I’ve just picked up your audio book
@@jasonbender2459 😆
They could certainly achieve true complete randomness if they managed to link it to my ex's moods.
OMG. That prayer. There goes all my Sunday school teachings
7 is the only 2 syllable digit with value. That's why there's so much bias towards it. They should have called it sven.
Zero is a two syllable digit. It has a value of zero.
@@perrydowd9285 it has no value
@@myscreen2urs Yes it does. I can be dogmatic too bro.🤣🤣🤣🤣
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/0#:~:text=0%20(zero)%20is%20a%20number,placeholder%20in%20place%20value%20systems.
"Forgive us our rage quits as we forgive those who rage quit against us" ....lol that was epic
That mustache got me coming back to this channel
In some video he mentions that when he runs the mustache increases his drag co-effecient.
I can’t be the only one that bowed their head to pray to RNGesus
I feel bad for those that didn’t
RNGesus will bless everyone who did.
The son of RNGod
I did too. Pretty gud prayer lol
@@sancrosanct5070 Dam good prayer, I would go to that church.
The RNGESUS prayer at the end is priceless! Well done.
When he referenced Destiny in the prayer to RNGesus, I felt that.
9:05 BRUUUH he's referenced it again
Next video: How does Thoughty2 make his videos...
would love to know the process
Talk about we cant be random. I was thinking this exact thing watching this video. How does he come up with his video ideas etc
@@cameronhannon4980 based upon this video I'd have to guess that he reuploads his old videos with a new name
yeah
Google
P
Back in the early 1980's when I first started my programming career we used the old grab a digit from the clock trick for random numbers. The clock on the Honeywell mainframe I worked on had seconds out to 5 decimal places. So we would just grab the last digit (changes 100,000 times a second) however many times we needed for the number of digits we needed. Since this number is always counting up it was never close to random but with how fast it changed it was good enough. Well for back then. We then wrote a algorithm to change the timing of the selection of the digits to make it a bit more random. And then the hunt was on. Trying EVERYTHING we could think of to make numbers more random and to this day it cannot be done in any way that is really useable. We are getting closer. Just my $0.02
@@jbird4478 I haven't needed to generate a seed in ages, but these days, I think a good option would be to use a remote computer's clock instead. The latency of the request to the remote machine would add a bit of pseudo-randomness.
It would be useful to take also the last fraction of numbers from temperature sensor
I use to develop RNGs for casino games. The problem was always with how do you have a randomly selected seed number to kick off the sequence.
Everyone in the industry used the same method. There was a radio telescope in Europe that took measurements from background static in space. This static came from the decay of distant stars. The telescope would measure the peaks of the static, apply numbers to them, and sell these numbers in blocks of 100k seed numbers.
What we. Immediately noticed was that the numbers had a very minute degree of predictability to them. This was from the most random source in the universe, yet it was not random, just pseudo-random.
My team was content to know that the problem was too small and obscure to be a security risk. But my thoughts were centered on the fact that this meant random did not truly exist.
The problem is that if random does not exist, neither can other things. It means luck can not exist, neither can coincidence, because these things require random as part of the equation. And that opens up other discoveries, because if coincidence doesn't exist, then that means everything really does happen for a reason, according to a plan.
Anyway, your claim that cosmic background radiation is true random is wrong. I suspect the same is true for your other examples as well.
Then we need to do more research in it!
You said random so many times that it started to lose its meaning
Since im at a trip im downloading your videos for entertainment you have done a pretty good job so far
Please I'm helping y'all becoming aware before
You did get me to think of algorithms rather than things like dice. So, naturally, I thought of von Neumann's middle-square method.
So I dunno, I feel as though there's something to be said about the possibility we live in a completely deterministic universe. Is it so insane that with enough careful research and application of sound logic we could, in time, understand these seemingly unpredictable natural events on a fundamental level we can't imagine today? The ancient Greeks imagined the atom, but none could guess at the existence of quarks, I wonder what else about our universe lies, awaiting outside of reach today yet within the grasp of tomorrow.
I also think thats most likely. Even leaves falling from trees do not fall randomly. There will be a pattern if you look hard enough. So why should the radioactive decay of atoms be random? Because we didnt find the pattern yet? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
But even if there is no true randomness in this universe, the pattern just needs to be unrecognizable enough.
Forsake RNGesus! Bow down before the might of Lootcifer.
I hate numbers but thoughty2 always makes me forget who I am because he always makes seemingly boring things interesting ... 🥰
Great video Aaron thank you for keeping us both informed, entertained and going through what can only be described as a year of hell.
Looking forward to more. Merry Christmas and happy new year
Stay safe one and all
I learned more from this British man than my Teachers taught me.
Your videos and content quality is getting better and better , keep it up and thanks for your hard work :) .
Valuable evidence that rng isn't random it's just that video games want to spite you so you don't get the loot drop you want.
Video games aren't supposed to be perfectly random, else speedrunners would have troubles
I enjoyed this.
It took me back to memories of school where we had a lecture on the subject.
The summation of that lecture was that there were no random numbers meaning; that the predictability of the aforementioned numbers was an impossibly arduous task, but painstakingly possible if you wanted to spend a millennia monitoring an event for said randomness.
This video was good.
"5th straight hour, lost in a CZcams vortex" 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻😉 humorous and disturbingly accurate!
I've never thought of this but now I need to know
When I try picking random numbers to fill in my lottery tickets I always seem to end up with the same group of numbers and have to pick other ones, so not random at all. Humans don't do random well.
I wrote a Python script years ago to do mine.
Doesn’t really matter though because the lottery itself is truly random
Think simple be aware third
Arron, that was awesome, heard many a rendition to that prayer, and I really like yours best :) Permission to use daily sir!? lol
man I LOVED this one so much Arran!!! I love learning so much from you. thank you!!!
I looked into your older videos, and i much prefer the mustached face
He should twirl the tips like a steampunk it'll suit him
Are those the same two guys? He looks so different. So much younger w/o the mustache. I thought they were different ppl.
@@jessicastern8597 people tend to look older with facial hair and those videos are older and so he was younger then :)
I have enjoyed thing channel for years now, love the subjects and delivery of those subjects. Classy yet satirical.
there is no such thing as a rng, math as a whole (covering all disciplines) is able to predict and or calculate any thing. It is done daily with computers that do huge simulations. Random itself is perception, we perceive it as random due to not knowing its relation to the world in which that number is present ie 9 planets in our solar system, or the 9 rupees that dropped from the killed mob in zelda. But just like the prediction of the weather (which is the closest to "random" we got today) it can be predicted with accuracy. This leads to research of things like a single rule for all existence ie string theory and or my fav simulation theory. This is also the reason chaos theory is not possible, but random would not be good anyways.
Wrong. Quantum mechanical effects, like radioactive decay that was mentioned in the video, seem to be truly random, for example.
"light hearted deity" you have no idea how intensely his cults pray to him
take a shot every time Thoughty2 says :
1.RANDOM
2. BUTT
3. u dont need anymore key words ... you should be drunk from minute 3
I'm so fucking early... There's no comments to laugh at
I'm back
shut up
Im here where'd everybody go
😂
You could always just look in a mirror.
It's hard to really say if anything is truly random. Just because we don't have the tools to predict astronomically complicated processes, doesn't mean they aren't actually predetermined. They're just beyond our limited grasp.
Not really. Atmospheric noise _might_ fall into this category. Its classified as a chaos theory in the sense that if you knew the exact position, momentum, etc of all the particles in the entire atmosphere and every leaf and butterfly they touch and so on, you could potentially simulate the entire system timestep by timestep, but you could never say "give me the state of the world on Friday" without going through Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Its mathematically impossible to predict in the sense of "tell me what it will be like at time point X" without going through the effort of simulating the whole process.
But things like radioactive decay and the CMB and such are based on quantum mechanics, and as far as we can tell its absolutely 100% fundamentally random. Not just mathematically random as with chaos theories, but fundamentally random on a physical level. Even if we could track every particle in the universe from the moment of the big bang with complete accuracy, we would still not be able to predict or even simulate the numbers generated by radioactive decay measurements (which in turn of course means we can't track every particle with complete accuracy, as radioactive decay and other quantum effects have driven much of the universe' development).
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?
Every computer repetetive gangsta till random neutrinio messes up one of their memory bits.
Remember when it was a thing to say "Lol this is so random XD" on facebook?... Glad those cringe days are over, but they were simple times.
9:07 this seems like a joke on the joke that thought2 sounds like forty-two
And he used 4T2 as one of the Enigma seeds (lower right corner)
thought2 actually sounds like 32.
Hello again my British-StockVideo-Budget-VSauce who appeared on my suggestions. I often listen to your videos if I have to take a nap. The monotony helps me hit the hay.
Glad you explained the nonces part 😂😂😂 nearly spat my tea out 😂
Fun fact: Goblins run faster than Unicorns
they even break sound barrier if Goblin Slayer chased them on his unicorn
WAIT A MINUTE HERE!!!
ARE the titles itself being changed RANDOMLY over here???
Indifferent realities
You got a way of organizing complex facts straight into my brain files in alphabetic order
Have no one thought that atmospheric noise and cosmic background radiation are a scripting that is truly Ramon one one thing that can be how aliens use their communication
rngesus, who art in procedurally generated heaven, hallowed by the ability to screw me over, thy random number come, thy unpredictable will be done, in hearthstone, as it is in destiny, give us this day our daily loot boxes. and forgive our rage quits, as we forgive those who rage quit against us, for thine is the maddening variability, the arbitrary bullshit, and the nonsense, forever and ever, amen
@@leastpark3492 Ramen!
Ramen
🍜 Ramen
Isn't randomness just an illusion?
All that's really necessary for a number to be random is for the observer to not know how it was generated.
yes!
That "prayer" had me laughing!!
Merry Christmas to you Aaron! Love your content and wit!
Are we not going to talk about that one of the true random number generators on earth is a camera pointed at a wall of lava lamps?
How
@@yungsweatshop8797 Well since lava lamps randomly make blobs of ''lava'' go up and down the computer uses the position of all the ''lava'' in the lamps to generate numbers with.
"There's no accident."
-Master Oogway v.68
This brings back memories. The amount of times I had to use the RND function in BASIC on the old Commodore 64 seemed endless. Pretty sure it was generated from the clock in the C64. This was for a game called "Punter v Bookie" that was simple by today's standards but worked perfectly for what I wanted.
I reasonably positive that the RND function did not operate off the clock. Unless it was fed another seed, it used the same seed every time it was called. You could see this by putting the RND function inside the loop of your choice and viewing the output it returned-which happened to be the exact same sequence every single time. That's why it was so common to use the RANDOMIZE TIMER command to feed RND the current time (in seconds since midnight) as a new seed each time the function was called. The output still wasn't truly random, but neither was it predictable by the average human.
I love your videos man. The RNGJesus prayer at the end really "chef kiss"
Me: Watching videos about dream cheating with his RNG
CZcams: Here’s a video
Hurry, he used the word entropy in a discussion of random number generators.
Cracks on his accent.
What is the answer to life, universe and everything?
42
What is the answer to life, universe and everything?
Thoughty2
😂😂😂
im stuck in a youtube swirling whirlpool of thoughty2, after being subbed for years but not watching for a long time. shit has gotten real good. props to his editor. im also reading arrans book. its funny. i like it
I was half right with my guess I thought it was gonna be 1927 but damn, keep up the amazing videos they are the perfect balance to rather watch solely or to have on in the background when drawing etc! 💕
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Random numbers.
@@williamgeorgefraser yes
18:47 That ending was just so friken hilarious. xD
A long time ago, when I used to programme in BASIC on a BBC computer, I soon learned that the random generator always, always, came up with the same sequence. I now suspect similar to what you describe here as the seed generator. Except there was no seed obviously, or maybe only one.
I made a text based game in BASIC for a high school programming assignment and found out that it played exactly the same every single time. I had to insert a loop that ran the random function in the background during user inputs to help randomize outcomes.
@@jmvh59 OMG. I can't believe I've found someone who did the same as me!!! Just a different method.
Hey Thoughty2, at 16:30, you've changed the name to the picture shown. TRNG would be the scientific machine (when the monitor appears) and PRNG has to be the monitor, but the machine appears.
Yes, I don't have many friends.
5:37 "it just works" -thoughty2
now where have I heard that before.....
Videos we watch your whole life
"Pick any number in between 1 and 10"
*The small amount of college students who chose 0, not a number in between 1 and 10*
I remember watching the first movie out of two, called “Now you don’t” about a group of magicians. In virtually the first scene it shows Jesse Eisenburg having a girl watch as he flipped the cards facing her, and telling her to pick one. Then he showed her the deck, and asked if it was there. Of course it wasn’t, and then he said “I’ve been telling you all(to the large group) that the closer you look, the further you are from the truth.” And he slides by and her numbered card lights up on the side of a building in Vegas.
Here’s where it’s tricky, I’d also picked the same number! How? Well being that it’s a movie, there were a million things that could have been done. Just and extra second or even a split second longer focused while the 7 was being shown. And any other possibility you can think of. But I swear that first time it threw me like a WTF moment. If you’ve seen the film, maybe you also picked the same card, if you haven’t you really should, it’s funny, lots of magic, and they’re like Robin Hood’s and steal from the rich, and give to the owed, “Magically”.
They used "LOL" for the 3 digit code in the enigma machine with unreasonably high frequency? I didn't know LOL stood for anything in the 1940s.
They used to sign off with, "Heil Hitler" every time so making decoding a bit simpler, well, checking whether your de-crypt algorithm was valid.
@@RadioJonophone I remember reading that they needed two 3 letter combo's to set the machine. Many operators used place names - Ber/lin, Cob/urg, Bre/men, Lub/eck, Mun/ich etc
I saw my bank account password in that random number book lol
Which one just curious
@@MowiWowi lol.
I had to write a Random Number Generator, and it wasn’t really random (for the reasons you mention). So I used the time, not the time of day. I used the time since computer epoch (the time since computing started), as this is constantly changing, and can never repeat, it makes a great seed for a RNG.
Now let’s image that by some miracle a 1000 people all press start at the same (within millisecond) and I’m using microseconds as my seed I’m going to generate a truly random number. For my purpose I needed a truly random number between 1 & 100. So of course I’m going to get duplicates (many duplicates).
For my purpose duplicates didn’t matter, as long as the number of duplicates changed every time the program ran.
This algorithm was used to assign work to a number (100+) servers.
The company claimed that their servers had never had a load it could take. I had a couple of mainframes, ready to go, and I pulled the trigger. The Mainframes of our test environment didn’t even reach 2% before we had killed their entire pre-production server farm.
As a result of the test I had to add code to detect when a server failed and when it came back.
As a result, the contract was amended, and we promised not to exceed agreed thresholds.
The moral is that you can generate truly random numbers, and use them to devastating effect (we killed all their servers, other companies couldn’t get rates high enough to kill a single server).
The Clarification of the word 'nonces' was very much needed😂😂
W's banner and Ganyu's Banner is comming soon. May RNGesus bless us all.
I pray to RNGesus, please gimme Weedy
@@renkiryu4332 W for waifu
"CZcams vortex" .. nice one. Its like Factorio - time jump. :-D
Extra
Con 7777
How about I make each of my keyboard's keys change to different numbers with an interval of 0,01 seconds, drink two lattes, close my eyes and smash my keyboard into my face repeatedly? Seems like a pretty random theory to me. Now to test this in reality.
This is probably how that guy hacked the lottery like 5 times. He was an idiot and got caught by letting family and friends win.