Polestar 2 LR SM refresh 1000 km challenge
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Making the Unlock Charger button a slider would be the most elegant solution. Still in the same place, but not pressed easily by accident.
I like that. Confirmations are annoying.
I love Bjorn, his tests are like so real, unlike paid other guys
27:26 that “end of battery range” indicator on the map/route is quite handy.
I just got my Polestar 2 at the end of August. It's the new model with dual motors. One long trip so far, and I'm very happy with the car in general and the charging speed in particular. Also, thanks for the video.
It's always a huge pleasure to see your videos ! Thank you for all your work !
Well done to polestar!!
PoleStar 2 LR for the win.
Did I hear you say "winter is coming, call John Snow"... 😂
As always, thank you for another great presentation.
These are my dream car. So nice to hear that they're only getting better.
With 19" wheels and slightly warmer temperatures, it should be able to match the times of M3 and i4...wooow
So much improvement!
Finally! This was showed end of 2022! What a wait ! :)
I would like to see winter-test for this car. Volvo (=Polestar) has long been known for it's winter capabilities like handling on icy/snowy surfaces, warmth and good seats.
I have a friend with the AWD version of this 2024 Polestar 2. He says it is the best winter car he has ever had, but he has no experience of other EV:s, only German gas/diesel cars so it is not really comparable. Yet he is very happy with his AWD Polestar 2.
Impressive. Efficiency is helped by its drag coefficient of 0.23 akin to Tesla Model Y. Thanks Bjorn. Excellent real-world testing plus a lot of fun to boot! 😅 Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
Thanks Bjorn - another great video - I I can't wait for my MY24 LR RWD P2 which is due for delivery handover next month. Interesting to see in the other video about the quick speed and also that the sound was on par with other cars. Also it was interesting to see the edited video after watching the live recording - these 1000km tests are epic so good on you for putting in all these hours!
Had mine for 4 weeks now, on a road trip from north of uk, doing a circuit of the Netherlands and back. The car is pretty damn perfect.. Looks, Comfort, range & charging speed... Loving it. Hope you do too!
PS2 revisions look great, and are obviously making a real difference on the longer runs. It’s on my shortlist for a first-ever EV in a couple of years time, but I’d go for 19’ wheels… eek a bit more range out!
I think you ar one of the better reviewers in the EV CZcams community 😊 I love al the testing etc! And I love Norway this winter I wil be in holmenkollen again for the 3th time this year 😅😅😅😅
“Pee in the bush.” Keeping it real. Ikea in the background is also appropriate. Lol.
That new front end looks nicer too.
30:00 Butt feeling 😂
Tiring hard work of yours. Thanks for your dedication.
I share your passion. You will be aknowledged on the history of EVs approval process. 👌
My P2 has the 19” wheels. Cooler more restrained look. The 20 inch wheels make the car look “overtired” and shout too loud. I love the P2 because it’s so stealth and doesn’t alienate as much like Tesla, BMW i series .and even Audi ETron. Not a perfect car by any means, interior needs some ergonomic mods, but not a deal breaker. Car is a hoot to drive and not having a gas bill, oil changes, smog tests, etc. is such a lifestyle change. I have a home charger so EV ownership has been a pleasure. 2 years and no maintenance issues.
Impressed from Model 3 SR only 15 min more...
Bjorn you are the best! Happy to see that Polestar is improving its car.
Even with the worst rims! I am really curious how it is with the standard 19”
I wish that I could get this but in a slightly bigger body. Its my only complaint about my current Polestar 2. The Volvo EVs are nice but they only come with the dual motor drivetrain in the US.
Any plans to test the Mach E? Love your detailed reviews
Seems like VW wants to make a new Gti, but fwd and 2026? Man, i dont know.... 🤔 Comperitiors will kill them again... I think.
Better late then never….
Another good one :)
This is the "Thunder" color, right?
How much it takes to get 20-80 % battery charge at tesla super charger for model 3. And how much it cost to charge it at home with mobile connector?
Is it grey or light blue? It's hard to tell under artificial lights.
For a couple of years ago the Polestar 2 really was my dream car. I think it still looks really good today, and the update gives it a fresh look again. But in 2023, I feel the consumption is too high, especially considering it has been updated. Just compare it to a BMW i4, not to mention the Model 3 ofcourse. I'd happily own one, but in 2023 with my own money I'd be shopping elsewhere.
I agree this is a big deal and Polestar deserves kudos for improving these fundamentals. I also agree EVs should be AWD or RWD, not FWD. I hope Tesla brings back the RWD long range Model 3.
They did, we have been able to order RWD long range Model 3 for quite some time in France.
@@juliengabriel9363 cool! I wonder why they haven’t offered it in 🇺🇸 for years.
Can you easy get a bike in the back of the car?
whats the name of this song?
Good to see they're making improvements.
I have 2023 LR DM and I can say I'm fairly disappointed overall for a £54k car + a brand which position themselves as premium/luxury.
The drivetrain has a lot of power, but it also has all sort of vibrations - maybe this got improved by moving the motor to the rear. Ride & handling over bendy roads is poor. Don't mistake this as a sporty car just because it has a lot of power!
The front seats are a low quality. I have the Plus pack giving me the upgraded ones. However after the first 2 months they started coming loose. The side bolsters are wobbly & making cracking noises, the lumber support makes weird noises and recently, all sorts of clicking sounds coming from the bottom part just going around a roundabout.
I don't know if the leather seats (included in this video) are better, I hope they are given how much extra $$$ they cost.
I've driven a lot of cars in my life, some of them with over 160k km, over 10y old, but I've never had seats so poor quality. Definitely didn't see this coming given how close Polestar is to Volvo and Volvo has been making car seats for decades.
Unfortunately the Polestar warranty isn't keen on fixing any of these issues as they say it's "characteristic of the car". They know they have quality issues and fixing all of these it would mean they would be bleeding money all over.
Otherwise I think the car is great, I love the software & the design.
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Would be curious if 19" tires would make a diffference...
Were the leather seats more comfortable? Worth it?
This is great! I wonder: what’s that color? Not available in U.S., I think - choices here are so drab (my Snow is OK…).
What's up!!! I want this car!!!
Hope you can make it to fully charged Vancouver next year.
Just to provide some other perspective... fwd offers benefit on low power single motor EVs since it allows for a larger part of regen breaking especially in slippery conditions, but provides less traction on fast acceleration.
Nice improvements but sadly no improved noise insulation and also still sadly no USB music. That last bit is really purting me off buying Volvo/Polestar. With the Bowers & Wilkins coming in the P*3 it is pure stupidity not to offer USB music. Just why?!?
You'll have to change your reference route from now on.. The E6 is gone at Stenungsund due to a landslide some days ago..
Already done a week ago.
But how is consumption affected if you have the car stereo on and bass in the subwoofer
Stere pulls on normal use only 100 W (we're not trying to blow our ears).
100 W / 120 km/h = 0.8 Wh/km
A drop in the ocean.
I had a P2 as a rental for a week. I don’t like that you can’t use the armrest at the same time as the cupholder. At the same time the gearselector take to much space. The could added a secondary cupholder
AWD version pls
This is how fast Chinese EV makers iterates. Major refresh in only 2-3 years.
25 kwh is high. That's like 350km only with that battery size.
Can I ask? Does Norway/Sweden contract out for highway/road maintenance? Or is it government road work? Because your roads are amazing.
The short answer is: the government does not actually BUILD, but they do plan everything and they are part of the entire process.
In Sweden, for many years it was the government that did the work. Today, it is the government that plans, specifies and does all the requirements and planning efforts, then a company like Svevia (who was previously owned by the state but is now privately owned) actually builds the roads and does maintenance. But there is a very close relationship between the two. You will have representatives from the government visiting and doing validation of the work, as they have done all the planning and need to see that it has been done like it should. The projects are always led by the government agency. For city streets, the municipality in question are responsible for their streets and will have their own infrastructure division similar to the big one in Sweden.
I test drove a PS2 AWD the other day. I drive a BMW i3s and honestly the BMW was quieter.
An improvement, no doubt, but average consumption still looks awfully high?... It´s strange that there would be only 20 minutes difference with the M3LR, which is considerably more efficient and charges faster. Perhaps time for a rematch? Maybe with the Highland? Looking forward to that one!
People for get to turn off reg on long motorway cruises so you can coast better
llantas de 19" o 20" ?
20”
It was well thought that front wheel drive cars made their way better in the snow than rear wheel drive cars. Then rear-wheel drive cars could skid more easily also on slippery surfaces. Some like it but that might be another story
Wrong assumption based on old fossil car design.
bye bye Turtle mode? 🐢🐢🐢
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I’m wondering how you’re realizing that high consumption with cruise control set to 110. My average consumption during the German summer is always below 20kWh even on highway trips with higher top speed.🤷🏼♂️ My car is a 2022 SRSM.
What rim size do you have?
@@micker5648 19”
I did't drive at 110 km/h...
How is it possibile to not make it at the beginning with 100% and 260km to do??
he did 320 km actually
Isn't that still super low for such a battery?@@ora10053
Imagine the polestar would be as efficient as the model Y, we would propably have seen a new record?
I mean it should be more efficient than a Model Y. PS2 is a way smaller car. It sould play in the League with Model 3 when it comes to efficiency.
Can't buy polestar in Thailand
Did you just say you never use one of your sponsor’s applications? When will you try a Rivian? They bought ABRP
Bjorn, when u plan to test 1000 km challenge with Zeekr 001? I think u say in one episode that be soon when u present Zeekr 001 and Lotus Eletre. This car is most intresting because is in price range with Tesla model Y but much better quality and one more thing. Zeekr have 22 kW AC charging. For me every car must have 22kW AC charging over 50 kwh battery!
Zeekr 001 and the upcoming Polestar 4 are sisters. They should perform similarly, so whichever car he tests first, those things will probably apply to the other car, with some small differences.
@@tobias_dahlberg Yes, they share same Geely SEA platform with ssame battery pack, ac and dc charging speed. Only difference is the drag coefficient. They have different body shape.
Is this first time we see 500A on charger?
No
Now reduce the pricetag like 15%-20% and bring matrix Back. Then i would probably buy.
Model 3 made its first improvement to interior noise 6 years after initial release, surely we can give Polestar the same amount of time. Good video as always thanks!
What? Tesla has been improving the Model 3 sound every years since the start, but the biggest updates was in 2021 and now here in 2023....
It definitely wasn't the first time Model 3 cabin noise has been improved, Tesla definitely did it at least once when they switched to acoustic glass in the front windows few years ago, plus there may be some other minor improvements before.
Tesla already improved the interior from 2021:
2x wireless charging pads, motorized lift gate, better center console materials, better door and dashboard finish, faster CPU, metal scroll wheels on steering wheels, better headlights, heat pump, double glazed windows
I took a polestar 2 test drive a few weeks ago. The car felt more quiet compared to my 2021 Model 3 on 110 km motorway. I also did some measurements with an app on my phone to confirm it, but I'm not sure how accurate the app was.
Anyways, I'm surprised to hear people complain about it.
But you shouldn't really need a mobile phone to make the journey. it is the navigator in the car that will help you. which will show you where to charge the car. and should also do the mathematical calculation. because you don't have to be a mathematician. To make a long journey with an electric car
Good upgrade, but still have the impression that the car is not so efficiente.
Not with Björns "cement foot" on the accelerator😅 on my long drives (2023 SRSM) I've been getting less than 160wh/100km by just driving the speed limit (110 in almost all of Sweden)
It's a small car, but the weight is more than a model y. And the shape is like a small suv. So it's not possible for this car to be very efficient. But right now with LRSM you should not worry about the range, it's kind of the top tier in Europe
@@Aksoma At 110 the Model 3 is below 140 Wh/km...
It's still less efficient than BMW i4 and Model 3 during Sunday driving (no "cement foot" excuses there...)
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Glad to see they improved the efficiency and charging issues, although the efficiency is still 30% below Tesla. When I rented one, the road noise and ergonomics were horrible, Polestar still needs to redesign the interior and fix all the software issues. The center screen is very large but the UI wastes so much of the screen space with giant graphics that the screen could be half the size.
Yes of course. Geely Holding Group make excellent car as we all know. Just look at that Volvo cars, safest cars in entire world. Personally in company in which I am working we have using Tesla S cars 2015 model which we was not pleased at all. Rumors in the company telling that we have ordered couple of Polestar LR SM and couple Volvo EX. Personally for my car, i will wait a little bit longer to order on Zeekr 001. Here in Sweden it’s little bit long time wait for delivery for such a beauty. Was on the Zeekr 001 presentation on the show room last month. That was love on the first site. It’s a such a car, looks even more better then Volvo. Tesla and others it’s just a joke compare to that.
Volvo not safest cars! Passive or active.
@@waynerussell6401 From 2004 to now only one dead in Volvo crash. So please…. Do not talk rubbish.
@@alexa795LOL!
You sure bought the hype:
"By 2020, nobody shall be seriously injured or killed in a new Volvo," said Volvo's lead safety expert in 2008, Anders Eugensson.
But when asked how many people were killed or seriously injured in Volvos globally last year, so that it could track its progress in the lead-up to 2020, Volvo experts were unable to provide any data to Cars Guide
19 Feb 2015.
Even in their home country, the Swedish Transport Administration reported 40 deaths involving Volvos from 2010-2017.
The metrics that matter are actual statistics from on board computers that record miles driven, airbag activation and calculate the probability of injury. The most influential tool is AI automation. Where does a small brand like Volvo rate in ADAS and autonomy? "A full change to autonomous driving is quite a way away," Rowan.
@@waynerussell6401 Man i live in Sweden, don’t be fanny with such a comments. I can send you Transport styrelsen report about Volvo “deadly accident from the year 2004. Everyone can se that here in Sweden. So please, don’t be stupid and write a nonsense. Thanx.
Why do we have cars under reporting speed and distance. These are so basic.
Needs a 2nd cup holder! That single one in the middle is just not enough.
I use one permanently for my water bottle and a second one in the mornings for my breakfast drink (yogurt, etc) in my Volvo S90.
2nd cup holder is under the armrest. It has always been there.
@@bjornnyland , good to know, thanks!
The "poo Man's Polestar" with the upgraded $4k (USD) perforated/ventilated leather seats and the Plus Package, and upgraded 20" wheels (about every perk you can get) and a paint that cost more money... NOtmany Poor man's car around $60K.....
At 17:37 "Poor mans Polestar"... Price tag at ~61.000€... Where are the real poor mans electric cars? Even a Fiat 500e is close to 40k€.
Looking at the end statistics, they need to work on the efficiency. If they make it use less energy it could be a good deal. Right now Tesla model 3 LR is still better deal. And if the facelift will be treu to it's promises of ~10% better efficiency, it will continue to be best choice.
246wh/km looks very inefficient for a brand new motor design.
rather than polestar 2 LR SM, they should called LR RWD
Stop charging button near the charge port is a no no.. I'm already seeing stupid people stopping the charge of other cars.. 😅
Probably needs the car to be unlocked? Hopefully!
Good question. Will try it with my XC40 next week.
I can confirm the stop button works only if you have the key/phone with you
MB has the same. Doesn’t work without the fob near or car unlocked.
23 kw/100km for just driving 110km/h? My Audi Q4 40 e-tron is much better tbh. For that consumption i can drive 120/130km/h
The Polestar had lower consumption than the Audi Q4 e-tron 40 in Bjørn's range test.
@@TheSweMusicManNo it has not. I see at 120km/h the Q4 40 consumed 22,5 kw/100km. At 110km/h it would be 21kwh/100km. So it's better for the Q4. (And keep in mind the Q4 is already 2,.. years old, the polestar 2 has just got a new update so the consumption is not good for a 24 model)
@@swigga69 Don't compare two different kinds of tests. That's bad practise. Compare range test vs range test.
@@TheSweMusicMan i did. And i see for the Q4 at 90km/h it consumed 15,9kw/100km and at 120km/h 22,5 kw/100km. This polestar did 23kw/100km at 110km/h. What do you see then??
@@swigga69 Lower numbers at both 90km/h and 120km/h for the Polestar. Plus the Polestar was tested with 20", not the standard 19". (Q4 was tested with it's standard size, 19", and in warmer weather)
Reminder: this car is made in China. Jus’ sayin.
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