Let's Compare Decks | Ethereal Visions Tarot and Luna Edition
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- čas přidán 24. 01. 2023
- We compare the original Ethereal Visions Illuminated Tarot to the Luna Edition both by Matt Hughes! Which one is your favorite?
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As a POC I really love seeing when there is diversity in a deck. It makes tarot and readings more relatable, especially as thankfully tarot is starting to become more widespread and accessible. ❤
I love the Luna one. It feels more modern, still beautiful, and I love the more blue colors.
I love the diversity of Luna and holo but aesthetically wise the original looks better with the images. Both are stunning though
I have had the same impression.
Yes. The rainbow embossment takes away the classic look and it's a little harsh in the eye. I will go with the original gold embossment. ❤
I don't have either and I don't think I will buy them, but the perfect deck would be a mix of both.
I love (most) changes and the added diversity (Only real exception here is the empress. I vibe more with the first one)
But I don't like the rainbow leafing and prefer the gold. I also generally prefer the warmer slightly more muted colours of the first one in the cards that have only changed in that aspect.
I think i prefer the luna version. It's more saturated and i love the violet,feels whimsical
The Luma edition has made good changes in the major arcana. One of the standout changes in the minors is the 8 of wands, love the woman riding on horse back in the Luna edition. I wish they had done more interesting changes like this in the minors. Still beautiful though thanks for the flip through 🙏🌻😊
Youre welcome! Thanks for watching! ❤️
Thanks for doing the comparison. I don't currently have either version. I just put the Luna on my wishlist, although I prefer the deep gold foiling on the original (it makes the artwork pop more). The diversity of the Luna puts it far ahead of the original (in my opinion).
I agree! Thanks for watching! ❤️
I love them both. I have the original. So much versatile in the second one, but like you mentioned, there’s a place in my heart for the first version.
The first version is my first tarot deck so I will always love it so much. I will be purchasing the Luna version because I love it from what I have seen. I also have the Dreamscape Oracle deck. The artwork is wonderful to me. Thank you for sharing these ❤
I have both of these decks on my list for the next Tarot deck haul. I love them both!❤
*MOST EXCELLENT VIDEO MS NATASHA!!!* So far I'm loving the Luna edition because my favorite color is IRIDESCENT but the Star card, TBH, IMO scared me s***less! I'm feeling I'm drawn to the Illuminated more...
Loved loved LOVED the Luna (new) edition! So much so that I was a bit disappointed every time you showed a card that wasn't changed. :P Love the diversity changes (across many areas), the figure changes (and the dog's happy tongue out!) and the deeper saturation of colors (which, I believe, occurred across all cards). Luna edition -- five stars!
P.S. - Lovely background music!!
I absolutely agree with you! Thanks for the comments!
I don't own either, but I like them both for different reasons. The original, because it leans art nouveau, which I love and the new one because of the colourful foil work and the variety of characters. That could not have been done with the first deck and keep the art nouveau feeling.
Thank you so much for watching! ❤️
That Emperor on the Luna version though 😳💗 1:53
Had the original and bought the Luna version after seeing this! The guide book on the Luna is a lot more comprehensive and in colour which I don’t think you mentioned? Love both of these and your walkthrough was exactly what I needed to decide on purchasing the new version, so thanks heaps!🙏🇦🇺🇬🇧👍Max.
I prefer the first one.
I think with both decks I might make a compilation deck and put back in certain images that I much prefer. Thanks for highlighting the changes so clearly.
I love the deeper, richer color pallette of Luna. And that Knight of Pentacles is amazing! I was never drawn to Ethereal Visions before, but Luna is now in my cart! Thanks, Natasha! You enabler, you. 🤣
Thanks for this. Luna version is my more favourite... going on my wish list
I thought iI was going to miss out on this beautiful deck due to my standard or inclusivity.
Thank you for sharing , I plan on adding add the Luna edition deck to my collection.
Darn. I had seen the original many times and looked at it like "that is a pretty deck, I like it!" but I never quite put it in my shopping list because something didn't click. But I think that after the comparison, I will add the Luna Edition to my wanted list. xD Not only the diversity that people have mentioned, but I like the small color scheme changes, the redraws, and seeing how some of the cards got little more contrast to their backgrounds. The original is so lovely and there are some cards and such I prefer over the Luna edition (like, I do like the few cards with masked characted with their masks unfoiled like in the original) but as a whole, I feel much more drawn to it. Plus I like the Luna's back more too! That said, I think they are both glorious decks, so lovely.
The OG Ethereal Visions was one of the first decks that I bought so it definitely has a special place for me, but I love the Luna edition and the diversity it adds, I feel like some of the cards seem to work better in the gold foiling and some become really special with the holo. All the more reason to use both I suppose! Thanks for comparing them!
Definitely both!
I can't wait to have the Luna edition!!
I have the original numbered deck, though quite quickly stopped using it, it just became pretty images. I also fell for the Fyodor Pavlov Tarot, a quite inclusive deck, but again far too pretty. I have still to learn that pretty pictures don't equal deeper meaning! I am learning, and now prefer tarot decks that have a challenge just learning their use, be it the very xtian inspired Cathar Tarot, or the Witches Wisdom Tarot, which really challenges me as everything about this deck is different. The one deck that a friend introduced me to, Fifth Spirit Tarot, took me a short while to see past the rather 'simple' line drawing style, and has become a firm favourite.
I am not sure whether i will acquire this Luna deck by Matt Hughes
I agree. The collector in me wants them but looking at the imagery, they don't speak to me very much. Minimal symbolism. Tho very pretty doesn't give very much intuitive information for ME
I got goosebumps looking at this. Thank you so much for doing this comparison.
The Illuminated deck has always been one of mu favorites and one of my go to for my readings buy this Luna Version feels so powerful, the new holo-foiling give me this “the cards are really alive” sensation that excites me to get one. The only thing I don’t like at all is the lack of reds and the abundance of purple, I know is like, the theme of the decl, this purple-blue/night palette but the red and the purple are so important to me on mu readings that I find it quite distracting.
Aaaand, omg that Heriophant card, god, what did Mattew did to my favorite card ever. 😢 i really don’t connect to the new one, I’ll need to try it and we will see but… idk, that card really goes straight to my heart and i don’t like the new one at all. unu
Btw, i think sooner or later I’m getting it, heeehee.
As much as I prefer look of Luna in every single way, I do despise the removal of symbolic elements in the reworked cards :(
I prefer the original version. I love art nouveau and the second one is not more art nouveau.
I have both these decks and love them, but I adore how the Luna edition sparkles and how it's more diverse!
I completely agree!
Love the holographic design and added diversity
How can I not support this revision reflecting the kind of diversity that I experience in real life. I ended up coloring in the original deck because I just couldn't connect with it because of the lack of diversity. I'm hopeful seeing this change of the representations in tarot. There are too many content creators doing unboxings and reviews that don't even mention this issue. Thank you for using your voice and platform to call upon change in the community, Natasha!
@@missnataliedavis you are entitled to your own opinion. I certainly did not intend for you to get worked up by expressing mine.
I get what you're saying. I'm from latin america and I love finding decks that reflect a bit more of the diversity I see in my everyday life, including my own. Representation does matter. I wouldn't expect diversity from the original RWS or from Mucha's artwork since those works are about 100 years old and reflect a certain context, but I do expect it in 2023. It's a globalized world, tarot reaches many different countries and cultures. I don't expect it from every deck, but it's very refreshing when you see a genuine effort.
@@OlimpiaOlimpia Agreed.
@Sol
@@TheTowerAgain great reply. That person is posting on everyone's videos including mine more or less the same BS
I like the changes... but wasn't it a bit lazy not changing all the cards?😁
Changing the cards messed up the whole style of the art. You're not supposed to modernize old art. It has its style for a reason, and when you go throwing modernized images in there, it messes it up. You want the creator to change an entire art style? So that you folks can feel more comfortable? Let's just be happy that we have two versions, and that thankfully the original at least goes with the theme intended. And at least with the original deck the creator took the time to make beautiful images that flow together. Because of the fact that so many people whined and cried, he haphazardly through some extra cards in the Luna and deepened a few skin tones. But as you can clearly see, it doesn't even flow the same. None of the images in the new deck even look like they fit the same art style. And that is the point. Art nouveau is meant to be looked at as basically mannequins, generic representations of human beings. And if people can't get past images on a card because of what the image looks like physically, then they have no business reading cards if they can't get past that and get to a deeper meaning.
@@missnataliedavis What is the point of having two versions if so many of the cards are identical? They could have changed the content, colors, perspectives in those cards while retaining the style.
@@loveshell007 the second version is not more art nouveau
@@nah1557spot on bro!
With some cards I love the original and with others the Luna version. I like the diversity in the Luna one though. Not sure which one I'd choose.
There are things I like about both. I recently got the Luna edition.
I feel like the original feels softer with the warmer lines and the fact that it seems to keep with nouveau themes like the more organic backs and and more nature inspired details.
For the Luna I really like the diversity. There's a few new cards that have a beautiful punch and flow with the already established parts of the deck, the four of swards, king of swards and empress for example.
Personal taste, i would've liked the foiling to be silver and for some of the changes to feel more like they're organic. With the darker line work, rainbow foiling and some of the clouds coming off as ominous, the newer deck feels harsher. I don't think it's supposed to. I mean I can see the darker pallet as it's a night (lunar) tarot. I know creating anything is hard work and appreciate what went into them.
I'm happy to have both decks
Both are beautiful! I like the hierophant and the star in the older deck better. The magician is so cute in both. But the Luna edition would be my pick because of the diversity in skin tones 🥹💗
Thanks for watching! ❤️
thank u...i saw that in my cards 14 without illumination only silver...sad😢😢😢😢
Luna edition ❤
❤️❤️❤️ Thank you so much for watching!
why didn`t they redo all the images? Missed opportunity imho.
Beautiful decks, I would like to have them boths but it is nonsense. Only some of cards, I think major arcana's are different and the gold colour and the Luna tarot seems to be more like in violet colour vibrations. I am deff buying the Luna one!
I have been watching some of your old videos and you said in one from a year ago that you might do a video of your crystal collection. Did you ever end up doing that? I don’t see one.
I personally think the Luna edition is absolutely stunning. I didn’t know about the original when I bought it.
They are both so pretty. I like them...and I like you...💕
I agree! Thanks for watching! ❤️
Regarding Tarot card readings, diversity in the cards doesn't concern me. The meaning remains the same, whether the High Priestess is depicted as Black, Chinese, Latina, or otherwise. The representation of different people on the cards doesn't alter the information conveyed.
However, from an aesthetic standpoint, if the cards are intended for everyone, it's nice to see a diverse representation that includes all people.
Please please could you do a video on all your decks that a similar to rider Waite smith preety please
First one better, rly liked luna wheel ofcfortune tho
I definitely like how Luna Edition is more inclusive, but besides that, I like them both for different reasons.
The Empress, in Luna Edition, looks like Beyoncé, I always get confused haha. If the artist really was inspired by Bey, then it was a great reference. 👑
I do love the new backs, and the changes to the images, too. I never felt any call to the original deck, but I do to the Luna Edition! Wonderful walkthrough!
😂 the colors of the luna are iridescent on the green ...like those of the dung flies! 🤢🤮
@@melissastella4185 😅
diversity upgrade tick. but keeping the ace of swords card the same was a big missed opportunity IMHO. who holds a sword by the blade?
I am so hyped to use this deck i love it a million times more than the first edition. I didn't buy that version because no matter how pretty it looked i couldn't connect to it because of the major lack of diversity. But this lunar edition is a dream i also love the new reflective part way more.. 🌙✨️💜
I definitely prefer the inclusivity and the diversity in the Luna edition. However it feels like a well timed cash grab. There’s no way that it was an accident that the creator didn’t include a single POC in the original deck, so their exclusion from it feels very intentional. I guess for me the Luna Edition just feels like performative wokeness.
Exactly. It’s a business move. They know it’s the popular thing now.
@@bm.6349 "popular" fortunately NOT in Europe 😅
How Is It possibile to think something so stupid? how can there be people of color and africans in a historical deck set in the art nouveau period that does not concern any of these races?!
What does POC mean? 🤔😬🙈😆
@@SoundSista222people of color
Thanks for this comparison. I've been considering this deck for a while, and I was wondering about how the Luna differs from the Original. I like the Luna better. I'll be buying that one.
Luna is better with rainbow foil and few new different cards r good 👍
I prefer the original. The new one is trying to "be" something. IMO
brushing all of these harsh comments and the Diversity of the Luna version aside, this is my take as a professional tarot practitioner for 4 years.
I never once connected with the original version. it’s artistic, it’s uniform but i feel nothing so i never bought it. but the Luna version had more “life” in it. its energy is strong, it’s alive and definitely doesnt feel like a bunch of cards with some art on it. it definetly has an energy that I can work with in my readings. That is why I bought it. some people need to understand that people connect with decks in different ways and we must respect that. not everything has to be political.
i feel the same way...purchased the original when first released as I adore art nouveau styling and the gold foiling....but when i opened the box up it felt quite lacking in soul. Matt Hughes is a skilled artist but wasnt particularly knowledgable about tarot, i felt this led to a disconnect. The Luna edition has more life and vibrancyy overall. The diversity is a wecome upgrade. I decided halfway through that if the ace of swords card was changed I would purchase the Luna....but no, the hand is still holding the sword by the BLADE....this is such a turn off for me and based on this, i sadly, wont purchase the Luna.
I definitely prefer the Luna, but I don’t understand why a lot of the flowing and elegant posing/movement is gone with some of the new designs.
Some of the POC cards are from bust up only and face us directly, which ends up feeling a lot more confrontational.
Because the new edition is modernized. The old deck is based on an art style which wasn't meant to highlight diversity, body shapes, etc. It is a generic representation of the the human form. The Luna deck completely messed up the flow of the art nouveau in the original. What people don't understand is that you can't modernize a style of art that is hundreds of years old and meant to look the way it does for a reason. What next, people are going to start crying about all of the famous works of art because they depict a certain skin color or body size? Ethereal Visions is just a deck based on an old art style. But the new updated art in the Luna version doesn't flow and it was never meant to. I can't believe so many people are crying about an art style as though they are being discriminated against. Just enjoy both decks. And understand that the original is just meant to represent basically mannequins. We aren't supposed to be looking at the fact that they are pale, because they're actually just representations of the human form.
@@missnataliedavisso the representation of the human form is just white people? And then modernised version is apparently people of colour, body positivity and etc. 😭 this is not the 1800s. It was absolutely weird for the guy to NOT have any POC in his original deck, stop with the “it’s part of the art” nonsense like what “oh I didn’t add any people of colour because they just wouldn’t fit my art” 😭 I beg. He could have made it work but didn’t, the Luna edition might as well be called the POC edition 😭. The holographic foil is cool but the beauty ness of the first one got me attention and as a POC. It just weird that white ppl have this weird obsession of believing that their race is the only thing that fits everything at least that’s what I see u trying to say. It just borderline racism I’m sorry 🤷🏾♀️.
@@missnataliedavisand nobody rlly cares how old the damn art style is, idk if ur aware but back then racism was very very common n diversity wasn’t as common, 😭 Ofc there’s only gonna be whites in the paintings, and u would think that by now people would acc have the common sense to add other races and not use “well this art doesn’t contain-“ type of excuses. Excluding other races isn’t some form of “tiktok shit” “or “modernism” it just u being blantatly racist, the creator isn’t a guy born in the 1800s and neither was the deck done in the 1800s, he managed to make a POC oracle n a POC deck but the original is just filled with white faces but the devil being the only tanned person 😶. I would have agreed with u if u based this on the original rider waite but this illuminated ethereal visions deck was made or published in 2018, I promised u inclusivity and diversity didn’t spawn after that year 😭😭😭 plus the Luna edition I think is cool. Just wished they acc tried a lil more, cos it would have went even better. 😊
@@missnataliedavis oh u commented on other replies to, ur just racist but “generic representation of the human form” and it’s just white people. LMFAOOO 😭😭 lord have mercy are u a white supremacist by any chance 😮
Honestly, I wish the backs were the same so we could pick and choose what foiling and witch cards in our own personalized deck
I love the changes in the lunar deck
Because you are woke 😂
I was never interested in the original. I LOVE the changes and more diversity so the Luna edition is going on my to buy list for sure. I'm LOVING the silver rainbow foiling, which I much prefer over gold. This art style isn't typically my esthetic, but I love the changes so much I'll be getting the Luna edition.
I was never going to get the original Ethereal Visions because of the lack of diversity. When the Luna edition came out I ordered it immediately and I really love it. I worked with it tonight, for the first time. I was kind of worried about damaging the silver foiling. How has it been holding up for you? And the original? Thanks for sharing.
That’s exactly why they made it. You guys are so easy to market to $$
@@bm.6349 "You guys are so easy to market to" ? You are rude and presumptuous. I don't know if by calling me one of "you guys", you mean to suggest a lack of intelligence or what. Here's my suggestion: you don't know me. You don't get to decide what's worthy racial representation in a deck of cards for anyone except yourself.
@@bm.6349 they are woke and dumb people 😂
Love them both. I have to get the Luna now that I have the Ethereal. Sucks that they couldn’t make the original diverse of people or really sucks that they didn’t even notice it in the first place (which is why diversity is so important), business move or not, using race for profit isn’t cool. Hopefully the next deck will be an improvement of both decks and so on from here on out 😊
I prefer the Luna the only thing I felt was a lack in the luna was the lack of the owl.
I like the Luna edition better 🌚
😂😂😂😂😂 you love 💩 ...s*it
Why do I feel like there are comments being deleted here 🤔
I don't delete comments unless they are incredibly horrible toward people. Also, youtube holds comments for review if they deem the comments not suitable. 🤷♀️
The Luna Edition has it all ! Diversity, stronger color saturation that makes the images come alive, color changes that complement that beautiful rainbow foiling , it has the look of an expensive indie deck. I loved the art nouveau style of the deck, but the Ethereal Visions Illuminated just seemed to be lacking something to me, so I hadn't purchased it, there was always something else I liked better. I was waiting for a walk through of the Luna. And it met my expectations and more ! No brainier on this one ! It's at the top of my list ! Thanks for sharing
😂😂😂😂 so dumb
It's a disgrace 🤮 colours of 🤢
I much prefer the Luna edition. I freaking love holo, and the Luna Edition feels more vibrant.
The new version just ticks all of the boxes, holo foil, more diverse representation, more vibrant images and more purple and blue hues versus red / brown hues.
The original is pretty, but definitely a much needed improvement on the new.
I’m a POC, I honestly can’t understand why anyone would make an artist feel bad for not including diversity. Art is art. I personally don’t like decks full of diversity. I avoid them. Tarot has a very specific European heritage. I can’t stand modern decks- I don’t want to see everyday people in tarot because for me tarot is escapism and more mystical. I’ll take a fantasy deck over a real life one any day. That might just be me though. I’ve noticed in this deck, the new cards artwork looks more well defined, the new ones feel like add ins and don’t match the rest of the artwork- it’s very subtle but stands out to me. I actually don’t know how I feel about the new one. I never bought the first one because although pretty, I found the colours too muted. The new one the colours pop more but there are some cards I now dislike (because of diversity changes), but others that I like more. I feel bad for tarot right now, on the one hand the massive resurgence and almost mainstream level interest in new decks is great for deck collectors and choice but the whole unwritten rules of diversity and inclusion have also cast a shadow on art and artists. The only decks that should focus on diversity and inclusion are modern ones since they are representing the everyday. And also cultural specific ones. Ethereal Visions was never a ‘modern’ deck in artwork. So it should be allowed to have its place without POC and LGBTQ + casting their shadow over it.
"casting their shadow" oop 🫢 no one wants to say it but thats exactly what those groups do don't they?
I do however think some of the responsibility lies with the artists though. If an artist genuinely wants to make a diverse deck hey more power to them but a LOT of artists just inject forced diversity into their decks to appease the angry masses and imo it makes the problem worse because they've learned that if they yell enough about it they'll get what they want (this deck here is a perfect example). More artists need to put their foot down and say "NO, actually my art does not need to contain one of literally every single possible type of person. If you don't like it shop elsewhere".
@@biitchstixI agree with you here, but I also think it’s tricky. I’ve seen well known CZcamsrs who have thousands of followers post videos on why they will never buy decks without diversity. I’ve seen instagram accounts focused on reviewing decks with a rating system that penalises decks without diversity and inclusion which is then quoted by famous CZcamsrs as a ‘beware’ decks section. So I do agree, but I also understand if they don’t want to speak up as ‘cancel’ culture is very much alive right now. Look what happened to J K Rowling for speaking on menstruation and sharing toilets with trans. She’s been somewhat erased from her own creation. The Harry Potter reunion didn’t even include her.
It’s also crazy to me that in the last few weeks, I’ve witnessed calls by tarot readers and witches alike to cancel any business offering readings who haven’t spoken out in support of Palestine and ‘chose to remain silent’. This is terrifying on a whole new level. I’m brown and Muslim so if you saw me in person you’d guess who I support, but I’ve kept politics off my business social media pages. I would be boycotted because a few white tarot readers and witches spoke to their followers and said don’t give them your money. Not a single Palestinian business has asked for its patrons to do the same. Sorry for the digression there but what is going on???
I miss the old days when tarot was simple more than ever. 😔
@@SabrinaMidnight
I remember when this all started a few years back, they hashtag #TarotSoWhite became a huge thing in the social media community and popular tarot channels all jumped in on it to virtue signal. It all felt so artificial and like an attention grab.
Benebell Wenn wrote a really good blog post on her thoughts about it and how she would never want to see artists forced to create things that don’t necessarily feel natural to them or their cultural experience, and how that includes people who are of European heritage.
It always felt silly to me because Tarot is a part of European culture, it began in Italy hundreds of years ago and the RWS and Thoth systems were created by European practitioners. It’s not surprising at all that artwork in decks would reflect that.
Creators shouldn’t be cancelled or criticized for making decks that are “too white”. They should be allowed to create art that feels authentic to them just like anyone else.
For me, super diverse decks like this Luna edition feel forced to me and they distract me because I can feel the inauthenticity of the art. Sometimes it’s done well but often it’s just someone trying to appease consumers who make everything about race.
We should just appreciate the decks as they are. Diverse decks will naturally arise anyways because creators will be diverse and they will authentically create art that reflects that. But bullying white artists into changing their work is totally unnecessary. Anyone can create a deck.
@@persephonel2117 Yea like my issue isn’t with diverse decks existing. My issue is with the push to make EVERY deck a diverse deck when with something so personal that doesn’t really work. I had to unsubscribe from someone recently because he will literally give a negative review to any deck that does not represent the ‘global majority’ (aka less white people in the deck than any other race) and does not contain some type of lgbt representation. Like dude not everyone wants or can relate to that? It’s absolutely fine to encourage those types of deck to be made for those that do want them but expecting EVERY deck to be like that is absolutely absurd.
call it what it is, antiwhiteness
All these comments talking about "diversity" feel like fake bot accounts to me. I like the luna version better for the most part because it seems to pop more and i just feel the aesthetic better.
Im not a fan of wokeness, i hope this is more about the sun and the moon than performance
I thought the comparison was unreasonable, because some cards were more interesting in the second version, but others were much uglier. Therefore, it was better not to have implemented the idea.