As the "factory" video, this is very poor. Users need detail to understand the intent of the design. Like needing to route the right speaker wire over the top of the helmet since it is the FM antenna. Or, how to use the adhesive and velcro pads for mounting the speakers. Do they get foam covers or not? Very disappointing, Sena. $500 worth of equipment. $2 video.
Jules you give Sena too much credit. I'd say more like a 2¢ video. Everybody glosses over the speaker install, but it's shameful that Sena does as badly as well. They take the easy, lazy way out and leave the use on their own.
Sena Technologies, Inc. : Instead of thanking me for my feedback, how about letting people know that you acknowledge that this is sadly inadequate, and needs improvement. And, if you really mean it, let us know when you are going to fix it and stand behind your product.
@@senatechnologies What you are saying is, thank you for your money, and since we already have that, we don't see the need to improve on our end. So phuck off.
You guys should do another video. This was poorly done. I agree with all the comments concerning the placement of the speakers and the wires; they look like they were just tossed in when no reference to proper placement. It looks like you make a quality product, your video should reflect the same. Just my .02
I had my 20S for over a year now. The install on my Sedici was easy enough. The speakers for intercom are fantastic! For music however the are 10 steps south of horrible. These speakers are to tinny sounding and virtually no base. How much will I have to spend for an upgrade?
How well do these work with the Airframe Pro? I just got that helmet and would like to get one of these Sena's next but am concerned it won't work with the little flare at the bottom of the helmet on the Airframe Pro.
My biggest question was how to install the speakers. There are several adhesive patches, but no instructions. In the video they were basically just tossed inside the helmet. This was not helpful.
This is the problem with EVERY Sena install video- EVERYbody glosses over the speaker install. This is to be expected of the average CZcamsr but it's shameful on Sena's part. There are SEVERAL adhesive and hook and loop pads and no clue as to how they all may be used. Similarly, there's no explanation as to why or how each mic is suitable for just one helmet style. And in case anyone asks, I don't think you're going to fit the mic between the helmet shell and cheekpad of a Shoei helmet.
Yay Airmada! I just got my 20S finally... I plan on running my own earbuds. Do the speakers that come with it have to be unplugged to use earbuds or could I just plug in my earbuds to the 3.5mm jack under the rubber flap on the base and it'll run audio accordingly? Do you know? Thanks for the video. I googled, "sena 20s airmada install" to make sure there weren't any silly things I'd run into.
Hi. Please adjust the Intercom-Audio Overlay Sensitivity Level on the headset as that determines how much you need to speak into the microphone to cause the music to be reduced in the background. Thanks.
WAY WAY too dark! :-)Anyway...what about the speaker wires? you just left them hanging in the middle of the helmet! lmao. Plus, don't they work as the antenna for the radio, so shouldn't they be positioned optimally?
Does this one help a little more? czcams.com/video/4dQqa-JD5so/video.html&t The velco should be in the area you need the speakers, then use the spacers if need to push the speakers closer to your ears if you have a wide helmet and they can reduce wind noise a little. There are also a foam covers to prevent the speakers from rubbing on your ears if needed. I usually play music through the speakers after and make sure they are centered on my ears and sound equal. It may take little movements to make them perfectly centered on each ear, but that's up to you and how they sound best. Hope that helps. -Alyssa
This is my opinion about Sena 20S after 4 months riding with it. The voice recognition is very poor, sometimes you find yourself screaming to the microphone and there is no recognition. Another aspect is if you are for a while without giving any instruction the "lady" simply dies, you need to tap the device so she can wakes up again. Why do you say this has a radio incorporated!? It's very hard to get a frequency in a good sound, it's simply ridiculous even with the national radios where you can hear them everywhere. Weather wise the device is not protected against heavy rain, uncomfortable noisy interferences are expected during these periods. The only thing good on it is the communication, that one is fine and you can hear it well despite the quality of sound is lower than a simple mobile phone headphones. For the price of the device the quality should be much better.
Did you update the firmware ? that fixed a lot of the issues a tip with the fm antenna loop the right speaker so it goes over the top of you head that improves signal strength.
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As the "factory" video, this is very poor. Users need detail to understand the intent of the design. Like needing to route the right speaker wire over the top of the helmet since it is the FM antenna. Or, how to use the adhesive and velcro pads for mounting the speakers. Do they get foam covers or not? Very disappointing, Sena. $500 worth of equipment. $2 video.
Jules you give Sena too much credit. I'd say more like a 2¢ video. Everybody glosses over the speaker install, but it's shameful that Sena does as badly as well. They take the easy, lazy way out and leave the use on their own.
Thank you for your feedback.
Sena Technologies, Inc. : Instead of thanking me for my feedback, how about letting people know that you acknowledge that this is sadly inadequate, and needs improvement. And, if you really mean it, let us know when you are going to fix it and stand behind your product.
@@senatechnologies What you are saying is, thank you for your money, and since we already have that, we don't see the need to improve on our end. So phuck off.
You guys should do another video. This was poorly done. I agree with all the comments concerning the placement of the speakers and the wires; they look like they were just tossed in when no reference to proper placement. It looks like you make a quality product, your video should reflect the same. Just my .02
Excellent video of install on modular helmet !!!
I had my 20S for over a year now. The install on my Sedici was easy enough. The speakers for intercom are fantastic! For music however the are 10 steps south of horrible. These speakers are to tinny sounding and virtually no base. How much will I have to spend for an upgrade?
That's a quality IKEA screwdriver you have there.
How well do these work with the Airframe Pro? I just got that helmet and would like to get one of these Sena's next but am concerned it won't work with the little flare at the bottom of the helmet on the Airframe Pro.
Nice. I like the new design.
I agree with the last remark, what about the speakers?
My biggest question was how to install the speakers. There are several adhesive patches, but no instructions. In the video they were basically just tossed inside the helmet. This was not helpful.
I did not see this in the video. There is a "Velcro Pad for Speaker" in my kit. Does this get glued to the speaker or the helmet?
This is the problem with EVERY Sena install video- EVERYbody glosses over the speaker install. This is to be expected of the average CZcamsr but it's shameful on Sena's part. There are SEVERAL adhesive and hook and loop pads and no clue as to how they all may be used.
Similarly, there's no explanation as to why or how each mic is suitable for just one helmet style. And in case anyone asks, I don't think you're going to fit the mic between the helmet shell and cheekpad of a Shoei helmet.
AdventuroUs dude lol I went through the same shit. But I quickly figure that out when it didn’t stay put.
@@PasnThrou so i build my own one you can check it here thanks czcams.com/video/ac_1ScZltbA/video.html
is there a video showing a glue surface mount installation?
Yay Airmada! I just got my 20S finally... I plan on running my own earbuds. Do the speakers that come with it have to be unplugged to use earbuds or could I just plug in my earbuds to the 3.5mm jack under the rubber flap on the base and it'll run audio accordingly? Do you know? Thanks for the video. I googled, "sena 20s airmada install" to make sure there weren't any silly things I'd run into.
yes, you can use headphones with the headphone jack on the clamp if you prefer. -Alyssa
We're all very excited about the feature-packed Sena 20S! Thanks for the video!
how do u hear from the speakers from they end up on top of ur head lol. N how do talk while riding if ur mic is outside of ur helmet?
Didn’t he say to use the wired boom mic for modular helmets, but installs the regular boom mic in the modular helmet in the video?
is it waterproof? what happends to it when its raining
you said another mic was recommended for a modular... why did you install the wrong one??
Sometimes audio multi-tasking works other times it seems like the mics just stay open. Tips?
Hi. Please adjust the Intercom-Audio Overlay Sensitivity Level on the headset as that determines how much you need to speak into the microphone to cause the music to be reduced in the background. Thanks.
does anyone know where to get the sena clamp
What did you do to that guy? He is shaking like a jelly lol
Was he forced at gunpoint to be in this vid? ;D
My helmet is too thick at the bottom to mount my 20s. Any suggestions?
Please use the Glued Surface Mounting Adapter that came in the package for attaching the 20S to your helmet.
"5. Insert speakers into the helmet" : is this a JOKE?
Why would it be a joke?
WAY WAY too dark! :-)Anyway...what about the speaker wires? you just left them hanging in the middle of the helmet! lmao. Plus, don't they work as the antenna for the radio, so shouldn't they be positioned optimally?
Great video, thanks for breaking it down!
The speaker install piece was glossed over and gave no input as to how to do the install properly.
Does this one help a little more? czcams.com/video/4dQqa-JD5so/video.html&t The velco should be in the area you need the speakers, then use the spacers if need to push the speakers closer to your ears if you have a wide helmet and they can reduce wind noise a little. There are also a foam covers to prevent the speakers from rubbing on your ears if needed. I usually play music through the speakers after and make sure they are centered on my ears and sound equal. It may take little movements to make them perfectly centered on each ear, but that's up to you and how they sound best. Hope that helps. -Alyssa
This is my opinion about Sena 20S after 4 months riding with it.
The voice recognition is very poor, sometimes you find yourself screaming to the microphone and there is no recognition. Another aspect is if you are for a while without giving any instruction the "lady" simply dies, you need to tap the device so she can wakes up again. Why do you say this has a radio incorporated!? It's very hard to get a frequency in a good sound, it's simply ridiculous even with the national radios where you can hear them everywhere. Weather wise the device is not protected against heavy rain, uncomfortable noisy interferences are expected during these periods.
The only thing good on it is the communication, that one is fine and you can hear it well despite the quality of sound is lower than a simple mobile phone headphones.
For the price of the device the quality should be much better.
Did you update the firmware ? that fixed a lot of the issues a tip with the fm antenna loop the right speaker so it goes over the top of you head that improves signal strength.
As of 31 Mar 2017 the current firmware is v1.7.2.
Wow! Horrible install! He literally held the speakers in place with his hand and installed the check pads.No No way they will stay in place.
these are complete junk. Always dead. Never pair, app is shit, desktop application doesn't see ANY devices. Total waste of money.