AWD NA K-swapped Civic hits the track - It RIPS!
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
- New track day video here showing what a difference a tune, new coilovers and new tires makes: • AWD K20 Civic tears up...
I brought my K20 swapped AWD Civic EG out to a track day at Dakota County Technical College track in Rosemount, MN on May 4, 2024. This was an all day event put on by Gary Curtis Driving Experience. Open lapping for 20 min per run group every hour.
It was pouring rain all morning until about 10am. The car was on soft street-oriented Yonaka coilovers and 8-yr old old BFGoodrich Sport Comp 2 tires 195/50R15, so the AWD system was really keeping it on the track. The car is running a wagon open diff in the rear, stock CRV transmission with Wavetrac LSD up front. The K20A is from a JDM Accord Euro R (CL7) with a custom intake, exhaust and fuel system, but an otherwise stock engine.
Enjoy!
Great video, Looks like a bunch of fun!
Cool to see an AWD swapped car on a track and not on the drag strip
Appreciate it! I know right? I’ve never seen another one on a track.
@@kawdzilla AWDHONDA time attack has an integra that they track
Well...I have yet to see any AWD golden era civic do any type of road racing until now. Bravo! Excited to see this progress!
Thank you! Such a great platform for road racing. Happy to see people are interested in this, I'd love to keep this going.
10.3 AFR on a all motor car is pretty crazy, I think there's a lot of power being left on the table with that motor. All of my friends with k swaps (including myself) are at anywhere between 12.3-13:1 on WOT
100% needs a tune at WOT, feels a bit boggy when it's that rich. Type S basemap certainly isn't accounting for the side dump exhaust. Idles perfectly at 14.7 though...small wins.
@@kawdzilla hey man, youre at the track get seat time and learning the car. Thats all the matters. Even with that tune thats on there right now the thing would never blow up anyways, those motors are solid. Id ask the tuner to leave it a little rich (maybe 12.5) on wot to keep cooler cylinder temps, since on the track the car experiences high load for 20 minutes nonstop at times.
Was thinking the same :)
Dyno tune scheduled for next week. Stay tuned.
Dyno tune done, stay tuned for a video update. New track session video here: czcams.com/video/0UHH35YCwDs/video.html.
your driving was so satisfying i didnt even noticed how long i was watching for. usually have trouble watching entire riding povs, but not this time :)
beautiful driving and the car sounds so good
Well I’m flattered!
That looks like a ton of fun, sick car!
@@JhawkBeats all the fun I need. Thanks man
Awesome driving, great content. Awd is the way to go, leaves a way for the inivitable power adder to put down the power. Smart man. Subbing for more. 👍 👍
Appreciate that. Lots of work to be done yet.
awesome vid.. car sounds fantastic !
It's a beautiful sound. Myers competition fender exit header. Because race car.
Have you run the car in just the fwd configuration and do you notice a big difference in lap times with the AWD even with the extra weight?
I also want to know the same answer to the question 😊
This was everyone’s question at the track too. Yes and no. Yes I’ve run it fwd, but not with this engine. It used to be H2B turbo, 360whp. The car is way…way more driveable in the current configuration. Yes, it’s probably a bit slower than fwd K20 in the dry, all else equal, considering drivetrain losses. Wet it’s no contest, awd destroys of course, and it did that morning in the rain. I notice less liftoff oversteer, way less throttle out understeer exiting corners, and overall more stability compared to fwd (I drove it in events for years before it was awd swapped).
I think its perfect as a track due to amount of different layouts you could run seeing from all the other infield routes and not just that clearly its pretty shitty pavement which makes it that much closer to how some american streets are i give this track actually a 7.9/10 more places like these should be built would fix a lot of shit. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
They change the layout frequently, pavement isn't great and no runoff strips or curbs, but we work with it. It's a police pursuit training course too.
Hey that was me in the red 9th gen accord at the 7:00 mark
You're pretty dang fast! Hope to see you at future events. I can't wait to get back out there on a hotter day and dry track.
Such a clean Accord and sounds wild too. Good seeing you there!
Thanks for noticing my car but my s2000 is not k swapped lol still got the original f20c in it. You looked good out there though. Hope to see you at some more events.
Sorry boss, got you mixed up with the other silver s2k that was definitely k swapped. Good driving out there!
Love the content
Thank you! More on the way.
Reliable rally car
Inspired by that concept for sure.
ngl ive always wanted to build a awd ej1 na for circuit
Well now you can live vicariously here.
Gears are long as hell on that crv trans for the track lol but what’s your awd setup ? Stock element driveshaft ? Stock crv diff ? And who’s trailing arms and diff mount did you get, I’m about to swap my dc2
They are indeed. At least it’s got an LSD. Wagon parts all around. VC rebuilt by Trustfab, stock diff, custom rear driveshaft, modified stock front shaft, both completely redone with 1310 u-joints. S1 Alpha arms, FCS diff mount, insane shaft swap axles all around.
@@kawdzilla oh damn that’s overkill for na you should boost it
@@Gameworldplus1 rather start with overkill than have to fix it later when it’s boosted.
@@kawdzilla oh 100% I thought you were staying na
@@Gameworldplus1 Just taking my time, enjoying the simplicity of NA for now.
More like a fast autocross than a track
Indeed...
Looks like final drive a little to long for all motor your rpm drops a lot when you shift into next gear
CRV transmission woes...the JDM 5.062 FD is actually the shortest final drive of any Honda trans that I know of. It's the gear ratio spread that's the problem.
Great run. What final drive are you running? 5.06?
Yep, stock CRV 5.062.
Need that turbo soon as u get tired of that stock motor❤
Ehh, he could also J swap it. Built N/A J35s can do 400hp/300tq, and with a 6-1 header or an equal length 6-2-1 setup it'll scream like an RB26, too. Best part is the reliablity and response of N/A + still having an abundant but controllable power-to-weight ratio.
No need for turbo boost. Changes the responsiveness
Yeah I love the J series, but rather not have my engine sticking out the hood in this chassis. Always wanted to J swap a 5th gen lude though, that chassis is begging to be rwd...
@@kawdzilla Just noticed it said EG in the description and yeah, those are pretty flat cars. Even a custom intake and dry sump might leave you needing a power bulge in the hood... However, if you want a lower-profile V6 with potentially less weight and even more torque, look into a Chevy LV3. It's a 4.3L V6, but the modern all-aluminum one based on the Gen 5 LS (called LT) platform.
Off-the-shelf cams can get you 380-crank but if you study David Vizard's teachings and get a proper cam for it, you can push 450+ at the crank(in the same rev range, mind you), which should translate to 360+ at the wheels. And that's to say nothing of making it high compression and doing some head work to it, also, which David Vizard can ALSO teach you about the best practices.
Oh, and don't forget the idea of a mid/rear engine swap. You could definitely get the J in there that way. And if you make it rear engine and find a way to reverse the gearbox's final drive output, it won't even encroach on the cabin all that much. You'd have a sizable space behind the front seats to put things or lean them back. Or have a midship fuel cell. Maybe even both.
what size is that steering wheel ?
330mm
What rear swaybar you using?
Don’t have one. Still looking for one that’s compatible with the awd rear bracket.
who here can notice what hes doing wrong?
I’m all ears…
@dsw3rvin pretty sure he’s making a joke directed at Honda drivers always bouncing off the rev limiter. Could be wrong though.
@@Brenden.Riley. that’s where the power’s at baby.
Dude walks his hands as much as Tenisha when parking her maxima at walmart
Hate you burst your bubble.....but that 220 HP doesn't need the awd system....I'd bet money car would be faster with a k20 type r transmission with a 5.1 final drive vs the awd
Appreciate the sentiment, but this car wasn’t built to be the fastest k swap in the world. It was built to be awd.
I'd like to add that it MAY be faster in the dry with fewer drivetrain losses and less weight, but OP said it was unimaginably better in the wet being AWD. To be fairer to your argument, it'd be the best it could be in the dry if he put the engine and transaxle behind himself and made a de-dion axle for the rear, and that's both whether he paired that setup with AWD or left it RWD only. I still think AWD will be superior in the wet either way, but at the very least a transverse MR setup with de-dion axle would be faster than your FWD proposal.
Your hands bro. Needs work.
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That's a track? It's terrible
Best the Twin Cities has to offer unless you get up to BIR. We work with what we got.