@@stevencramsie9172 Attendance is not an issue. When the team wins the fans will come. They sold close to 2M tickets this season in an 84 win year. They will likely be top-15 in attendance this season like the video maker said.
@@sokrates6737 Phoenix is a great sports town but they will support you only when you win. Too many distractions and too many options to watch a bad sports product.
Oakland has lost 3 professional sports teams in the last decade or so San Diego and St Louis have both lost NFL teams Seattle lost a NBA team ... Those are all decent sized markets what it really comes down to is ownership you're market size means nothing if ownership is tired of dealing with the city
This is what baffles me also. After spending millions and billions of dollars they will just demolish it. Fenway and Wrigley Field have stand the test of time Dodgers Stadium is still one of the best stadiums in MLB despite being old by today's standard.
It's ridiculous! The Angels were smart to merely renovate their stadium at age 33, instead of building a new one. By contrast, Cincy's Riverfront stadium only lasted from 1970-2002, and they went in for a whole new one. Not smart! But TX takes the cake: Arlington only lasted from 1972-1993 (21 years), Globe Life from 1994-2019 (25 years), and now they have a new one, opened four years ago already--so they must be thinking it's look'n old.
The biggest issue with the D-backs and Coyotes is that Phoenix is a city of transplants. People are moving there but bringing their previous fandom with them. Someday I hope they are able to grow their own fanbase, and not just have stadiums where most of the fans are for the visiting teams.
I remember when it opened as Bank1 Ballpark back then and the stadium was amazing. I honestly figured it was the envy of the MLB at the time. I still think Chase is a nice ballpark. Crazy what 25 years will do.
Unfortunately the stadium's infrastructure ages. From the rest room fixtures to the grills and coolers, as well as the HVAC and the seats... Just like your home, home improvements are necessary...
@@ronclark9724 They learned that from Minnesota. Metropolitan Stadium was NEVER maintained. The Twins and Vikings just let it rust away until it was unsafe, then they said, "We need a new stadium!" If I had owned the Twins in 1980, I would have told the Vikings, "You can keep your dome!" I would have rebuilt Metropolitan Stadium one section at a time, and KEPT IT UP.
Why do Fenway and Wrigley get talked up if it's about stadium age and amenities? Chase Field is easy to get to, the A/C works, and the food choices are acceptable. Spending the money needed to field competitive teams is what works. Chase Field is fine.
Me too ! I go a few times a year and really like the overall feel and comfort of the stadium. I do agree centerfield and some updates are welcome. But other than that it’s in a great location, I’d assume for the value of the stadium and it really has held up well over the years. Very clean!
the problem isn't the stadium..... its baseball.... no upgrade can fix a snoozefest. but you already knew that as you started to type out a reply and then deleted it instead haha
Yeah I also went last year to chase field and the grand canyon I'm also a Mets fan... going to a cubs game early in the season and either a Mets game or padres later in the season
@@michaelcrawford8401 Phoenix to Scottsdale...12 miles! You do realize Tempe,Chandler, Glendale, Gilbert,Goodyear and Paradise Valley are in the Phoenix area! 12 F*CKING miles and you don't consider that the Phoenix area?
@@michaelcrawford8401 born there.Could walk to the top of my road near Shadow Mountain and see the skyline. Took about 15-20 minutes to drive downtown. I guess your idea of being in the area is across the street from the stadium.
I had the opportunity To visit PHX last year in April & it was awesome ! Got to see the Dbacks play against the padres at chase field & I had a great experience. Gallen pitched and the D’backs shut out the Padres and the crowd was absolutely electrified ⚡️ chase was jammed packed with padres fans lol As a Mets fan I love chase field and went it was built in the 90s they changed the game with the pool in the outfield. Very cool feature. I love the large pitcher friendly dimensions and the high 20 foot wall in dead center at 407 feet from home plate gives you a challenge to smack one over it. I love how they never changed their dimensions. The food and beer wasn’t over priced and the tickets 🎫 are good price for great seats. Yes the upper deck is a bit superfluous and it makes chase cavernous but I’m sure they can just conduct some renovations to it. They had the roof open the evening I attended the game and it was about 90 degrees during the day maybe 82 game time and it dropped to about high 60s at night and they left the roof completely open which was dope. Also PHX has a decent light rail system which got me around town pretty good especially from the airport. Chase field has a great location in downtown PHX and hopefully they won’t leave. I would love to go back and watch them play my Mets one day.
As someone who travels to all those spring training fields annually in the dead of heat. It was laughable when I saw the headline and the proposed location!
@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena - I believe that hockey weas also played in the Memorial Coliseum at fair grounds for a while too, but that was probably the road runners
@@805fillmore I went to a Diamondbacks-Braves game back in 2010 when I drove from Louisiana to California. It was 114 degrees outside and walking inside the stadium felt like walking into a refrigerator.
My. theory is that MLB owners wanted to use Oakland as an example (unanimous approval of relocation, waiving relocation fees). Now all of the billionaire owners can extort their host cities for stadium upgrades. I also think MLB will hold off on expansion as long as possible. Once Nashville and one other lucky city get an MLB franchise, the other owners will lose their leverage.
The Braves have got everybody thinking more than baseball now with all the building they did around their stadium. They created a whole new mini-community of iffices, condos and restaurants. That's what the Titans have promised with their new stadium, but we will see. Nashville doesn't need anymore stimulus. There is no shortage of people wanting to move there.
No there was not a threat to leave Arizona. Did you listen to Kendrick at all? He iterated, yet again, that the diamondbacks are part of the fabric of Arizona. The headline on this video says they’re threatening to leave Arizona. No. They’re not. They never did. Please listen to Kendrick again.
For your information I'm up in Vancouver Canada and the team is being sold to investors here in Vancouver. It's their last season in Arizona. Kendricks is lying to all you residents there.
@@anthonys3631 2,000 years from now, nobody shall even remember that Vancouver had ever existed. "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind" (Isaiah 65:17, KJV). Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Establish the Kingdom of Peace in Jerusalem (Isaiah 9:7, KJV)!
I went to the first game at the “BOB”. The majority of ballgames I’ve attended have been there too. I agree that the upper decks are too large and the centerfield could be reimagined, but not too much…it’s what gives the ballpark its character.
Not practical. Not every owner is Stan Kroenke and can afford to build on their own dime. The other thing is, financially speaking, there are very few cities where you can build a privately financed stadium and make a guaranteed profit because events AND corporate money will go there no matter what (LA and New York and Miami). That leaves very few other cities where municipalities HAVE TO provide public funding for their stadiums in some form. The big conundrum, that is also not practical, is figuring out what to do one multiple parties want new facilities at the same time. It's easy when, say, the Colts need a new stadium and they're the only pro team that needs a new massive home at the time. It's another thing when, say, both the Bears and the White Sox need new stadiums basically in the same neighborhood, lol, and the state, county, and city leadership in Illinois has to figure out how to help them.
@@maxkeebs4425 It is 100% practical. The Giants funded their own stadium by taking out a 20 year loan. The rest was funded with PSL and advertising. The City didn't pay a dime for that stadium and have no obligations towards it. They did some minor street improvements and added public transit which was going in anyway. Other owners can do exactly the same. To say they can't do it is just total and utter bull honky. Other owners just want a free handout and don't want to take on debt. Most to the time with a new building the value of the franchise goes up. Raiders have more then doubled in value and Davis got a free handout. And by the way the Giants won 3 WS got to another when they were still paying off that loan.
You would be fired immediately! Also there's nothing wrong with public money, especially for MLB Ballparks. On average they bring in over 2.5 million people a year to the ballpark area, it's huge for the local economy
@@michaelcrawford8401 dude you can drive from Phoenix to Scottsdale in like 20 min... I'm born and raised in az. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Scottsdale and Phoenix literally border each other lol they aren't "relocating out of the Phoenix area". This is 100% a bluff. The current location of Chase Field in downtown Phoenix right next door to the Suns arena is the best possible location for a ballpark in the state. Any other location would be a complete downgrade.
I think Depressed Ginger may be onto something with his idea for a website involving stadium renovation news and teams threatening to relocate. This would be...uh, pretty spicy stuff.
I was in Milwaukee in 2010 and saw a game. I was talking to one of the ushers who told me that the stadium never had an air conditioning system that was adequate. I guess that will be one of the updates. I would have liked to see them move to Portland and return to being the Pilots. Arizona--typical move by rich guys to get the poor to pay the bills for their desires! I'd like to see the D-Backs move to Mexico City or Las Vegas (there was a previous threat to move there), and for the A's to move to Arizona.
Correction, the Brewers are replacing their centerfield scoreboard with a bigger one. The Brewers’ centerfield scoreboard is not being reconfigured. And they’re adding a videoboard in right field. I don’t know what your beef is with the scoreboard in centerfield. I don’t have an issue with it. I don’t think many people have an issue with it.
Chase field will not be gone. Instead it will turn into soccer stadium for future mls Phoenix rising fc. Which is extremely likely to happen here for sure. Real see what will happen here.
FYI the team has been sold to a group of investors here in Vancouver Canada and are relocating here. The Sonics left Seattle as well remember and they won a championship to in 1979.
Owners! As a baseball fan i appreciate my team's 60+ years old stadium i go every year (go Dodgers!) You guys are fking greedy! If you can't afford to keeping with renovations, just sell the team! Don't ask for the public $
Cities need to start telling these teams… Get bent…. Chase field is beautiful.. so CF looks ugly to you… Big Flip… Frankly, The D-Backs have a beautiful park… if they don’t like it… well, good luck with a move… it won’t be that easy…
@@805fillmore I’m a bit more old-school. 100 years ago, these teams bought the land and built their own facilities… then after WWII… suddenly they started holding cities hostage. Recently though, I’ve started seeing a few cities that are starting to wake up and stop playing that game… the teams need them more than the cities need the teams.. the reason why some NFL teams are building their own stadiums.. MLB cities need to push that.. when these cities realize that if the team builds…. they have a harder time walking away from their equity… Major sports teams, they get that new stadium/arena.. when the first lease is up.. back to the threats.. that cycle needs to end.
@@805fillmore Yup… LA told the Rams they could build.. but LA and California would not be putting in any $$$ to help… and that stadium is beautiful.. all private too… The bears have been trying the same thing but for some stupid reason Illinois is trying to stop them… The bears should simply threaten to move to Gary, IN or at least start LOOKING at property there.. close enough to Chicago.. but not in IL…might just shake them up enough to let the bears do their project
I'm an A's fan in the Bay Area, but I've spent a lot of time in Phoenix with friends. I've been to Chase Field. That is a gigantic cavern of a stadium with that ceiling closed.
from an Oakland A;'s fan, we tried to warn other fans that they were next. from the bottom of my heart i'm sorry this could happen to yall, from someone in the middle of it.
And is it that bad ? Multi billion dollar owners can fund their own d(*( buildings. Oakland is still paying off Mt. Davis and paying the bare mim on those bonds, its estimated it will take 20 more years at best like paying just the bare min on a credit card it never gets paid off.
@@805fillmore dbacks fans never organized their own giveaway of 7k plus shirts. Which A’s fans have. Tried to be nice but apparently it’s fuck us even when we do. Don’t say i didn’t warn yall when phoenix gets their arm twisted for hundreds of millions for a 25 year old stadium.
Winnipeg Jets leave Winnipeg, in Canada, a hockey team, for Phoenix, where it is 110 degrees for half the year. It was stupid back then, and very stupid now. Now, Winnipeg has the Jets back, and Phoenix has a clusterphuck NHL franchise that will leave, and an MLB team that plays in an aircraft hangar. It's probably karma.
If the diamondbacks move to Scottsdale, they would need to rent and buy land from the reservation and pay a percentage to tribe. It could be an issue that they most likely don’t wanna get their hands in.
As an Ahwatukee resident I’ve never heard of this “Scottsdale” place, but frankly it sounds made up. Maybe I’ll plan a vacation there next year. Hopefully I can find a flight that goes all the way out there. What’s the weather like, do I need to pack snow shoes?
As a Giant’s fan who has been to the D’Backs stadium several times I say it is nice. It is no comparison to our stadium which is only 2 years younger. Yes center field is a weak link in yours. We still have the best address in baseball. Plus it was all done without public funding. We almost lost the Giants because they couldn’t get public funding in many cities here in the Bay Area. So good luck to them to get their improvements and make it a nice stadium to visit.
The Diamondbacks did **not** threaten to move. That's a media interpretation. The managing partner stated the **fact** that a number of cities are exploring the possibility of adding major league teams. That's all.
The notion that the Brewers "threatened" to leave Milwaukee completely mischaractarizes the truth. It was reported that the terms of the lease state that the team has the right to relocate if the stadium district does not maintain the stadium to the standards of the top x-number MLB stadiums. When asked if the team would leave without renovations the team said it was something they would have to explore. WOW! What a threat. You make it sound like a scene from the Godfather...."either your signature or your brains will be on that contract." If you don't pay your rent you get evicted. Is that a threat? No. It's the reality of the lease.
I am from Phoenix, I went the opening game … I watched the stadium be built, I personally have worked on this stadium … enjoyed both World Series.. that said, f*ck this team.. let them leave …
Misinformation right off the bat. Scottsdale adjoins Phoenix, and both are in Maricopa County, so it's not "out of the area." The Coyotes left their arena in Glendale, and never played at The Footprint Center. Get your facts straight!!
BY Public Money what do they mean? Like sales tax? or Bonds? Imagine seeling construction bonds that fans could buy and literally own park of the Ball Parks...
iTalk already brings up how D-Backs ownership has no intent of leaving Phoenix, and that they can pay out of pocket for the renovations. So they're not threatening to relocate by any means, so a little misleading there…
I myself don't want to pay for stadium upgrades as they are willing to pay players tens of million a year, but want the tax payers to pay for the stadium. I live in Phoenix and don't care if they leave.
There will be NO new ballpark in downtown Phoenix. Most residents are still pissed about Chase Field. The most likely scenario is the D-backs move to the Salt River Fields area, near the casino.
FYI I'm up in vancouver Canada. Team is relocating here after the season. I know business folks here in Vancouver assuring me they are relocating here.
Attendance wise? I think the reason being the Dbacks been just an average team the last decade mostly and they upped ticket prices too along with food. I know everywhere is up. Also think outside of the Suns, most the Arizona sports teams have always had a fair weather following, Suns being the outlier here because of being the original franchise to the city
More than likely they would move to where they play in the Cactus League..Salt River Fields on the Salt River Indian Community in the Talking Stick area. More land to develop and closer to the East Valley, where most of the fan base is.
There is no relocation threat. Kendrick said it wasnt and Derrick Hall confirmed it wasn't. They arent leaving Chase or AZ, its the way of getting money for renovation is the problem. Read the articles people. Plus those renderings are over 6 years old and outdated
FYI I'm up in Vancouver Canada. Kendrick has visited Vancouver multiple times. Told buy some prominent business people here in Vancouver the team has been sold and is relocating to Vancouver after the conclusion of the season.
This story plays throughout America, even at the minor league level. Cites will build a new stadium to LAND or KEEP a pro team, but then won't spend a cent to sustain or maintain them. Cities or counties are the landlords, the pro teams are just tenants. When you lease is expiring your landlord will most likely offer improvements to the property to get you to sign a new lease. The expenses will be recouped with the new lease. The proof is in the pudding, you only need to google images of the recently built Hodgetown in Amarillo and the former Potter County Memorial Stadium built after World War II... Amarillo spent 38 years in purgatory without affiliated minor league baseball before the new stadium landed another affiliated team...
In an odd twist of fate, 3 of the 5 oldest MLB parks are in California. As for the Coyotes, perhaps they decamp to Salt Lake City? Would not even have to change their name.
The only teams that should be relocating is Tampa Bay Rays and Miami Marlines. Florida has no market and it makes sense for those teams to go to Vegas or Nashville. And hockey in Arizona makes no sense and the White Sox should stay in the Southside of Chicago.
The city of Phoenix must be punching itself because the city of Tempe denied the coyotes from building their own arena which they were almost going to pay exclusively for in private funds, and now the DBacks are wanting half a billion to stay. It just sounds like sports in the city are collapsing, they need a win somewhere.
@@PHXNKVHXLIC they bring in money and who doesn’t want an NHL team? It brings in tourism and money to surrounding businesses and such. Businesses in Glendale have gone to the gutters now that coyotes have left because of the lack of business. It’s overall a thing you should want in a large metropolitan area.
Billionaires wanting handouts. Guess that’s how they got rich. Franchise goes up 100 times in value, they get free renovations, then they eventually cash out. Good work if you can get it. I guess they’ll be setting up a Go Fund Me too. 🤣
that stadium is great, why tf they want more money, have you been to the phoenix suns footprint center? that's trash and needs the money more than chase field
Diamondbacks will not leave the Phoenix area. Way too big of a market and city. This is a bluff to secure public funding.
They should tho, Phoenix is such a shitty sports market just like the Floridan cities. Sunbelt retiree cities aren’t cut out for sports
San Diego, the eighth largest city in the country, lost a team that had been there for 56 years… and attendance was not an issue. So don’t be so sure.
@@stevencramsie9172 Attendance is not an issue. When the team wins the fans will come. They sold close to 2M tickets this season in an 84 win year. They will likely be top-15 in attendance this season like the video maker said.
@@sokrates6737 Phoenix is a great sports town but they will support you only when you win. Too many distractions and too many options to watch a bad sports product.
Oakland has lost 3 professional sports teams in the last decade or so San Diego and St Louis have both lost NFL teams Seattle lost a NBA team ... Those are all decent sized markets what it really comes down to is ownership you're market size means nothing if ownership is tired of dealing with the city
As a Chargers fan I am sick and tired of this shit. I wish it was like in Europe where its nearly impossible to relocate a franchise
City of San Diego didn't try hard enough to keep the Chargers imho.
Should’ve tried a little harder to keep the chargers
That's not the point. I hate the chargers, but it's kinda stupid that a team can just threaten to leave whenever they feel like it@@Dripward777.
@@Dripward777.you acting like he’s the city council Lmaoo he’s one guy
Lmao
Crazy how stadiums only have a 20-30 yr shelf life now.
This is what baffles me also. After spending millions and billions of dollars they will just demolish it. Fenway and Wrigley Field have stand the test of time
Dodgers Stadium is still one of the best stadiums in MLB despite being old by today's standard.
It's ridiculous! The Angels were smart to merely renovate their stadium at age 33, instead of building a new one. By contrast, Cincy's Riverfront stadium only lasted from 1970-2002, and they went in for a whole new one. Not smart! But TX takes the cake: Arlington only lasted from 1972-1993 (21 years), Globe Life from 1994-2019 (25 years), and now they have a new one, opened four years ago already--so they must be thinking it's look'n old.
It's all about the owners: whining babies who need a half billion dollar pacifier.
Except Fenway Park which opened in 1912 Wrigley Field which opened in 1914 Dodger Stadium which opened in 1962
@@michaelleroy9281 The Red Sox have spent millions in renovations, and they think Fenway Park will last until 2061.
The biggest issue with the D-backs and Coyotes is that Phoenix is a city of transplants. People are moving there but bringing their previous fandom with them. Someday I hope they are able to grow their own fanbase, and not just have stadiums where most of the fans are for the visiting teams.
Same thing with Oakland. That’s why they’re last in attendance.
@@805fillmorenot true. Oakland has a world of other issues
Don't people move to other cities as well? Every city has its share of residents who moved from other areas
Arizona is a retirement state. Like those unsuccessful teams in Florida still haven't learned.
@@Parlimant_StrifeyUnsuccessful?
Florida professional sports has overall more championship wins though
I remember when it opened as Bank1 Ballpark back then and the stadium was amazing. I honestly figured it was the envy of the MLB at the time. I still think Chase is a nice ballpark. Crazy what 25 years will do.
Unfortunately the stadium's infrastructure ages. From the rest room fixtures to the grills and coolers, as well as the HVAC and the seats... Just like your home, home improvements are necessary...
@@ronclark9724 They learned that from Minnesota. Metropolitan Stadium was NEVER maintained. The Twins and Vikings just let it rust away until it was unsafe, then they said, "We need a new stadium!" If I had owned the Twins in 1980, I would have told the Vikings, "You can keep your dome!" I would have rebuilt Metropolitan Stadium one section at a time, and KEPT IT UP.
Why do Fenway and Wrigley get talked up if it's about stadium age and amenities? Chase Field is easy to get to, the A/C works, and the food choices are acceptable. Spending the money needed to field competitive teams is what works. Chase Field is fine.
Chase Field is awesome, but it does need some upgrades. A great place to watch a ballgame.
Totally agree
Me too ! I go a few times a year and really like the overall feel and comfort of the stadium. I do agree centerfield and some updates are welcome. But other than that it’s in a great location, I’d assume for the value of the stadium and it really has held up well over the years. Very clean!
the problem isn't the stadium..... its baseball.... no upgrade can fix a snoozefest. but you already knew that as you started to type out a reply and then deleted it instead haha
As a Mets fan I agree. Went last year and had a blast 💥
Yeah I also went last year to chase field and the grand canyon I'm also a Mets fan... going to a cubs game early in the season and either a Mets game or padres later in the season
My mom used to say "this is not a threat, it's a promise"
Newsflash. Scottsdale is in the Phoenix area.
No it's not. They are two completely different areas. Have you even been to AZ??
@@michaelcrawford8401 Phoenix to Scottsdale...12 miles! You do realize Tempe,Chandler, Glendale, Gilbert,Goodyear and Paradise Valley are in the Phoenix area! 12 F*CKING miles and you don't consider that the Phoenix area?
@@michaelcrawford8401 born there.Could walk to the top of my road near Shadow Mountain and see the skyline. Took about 15-20 minutes to drive downtown. I guess your idea of being in the area is across the street from the stadium.
@@michaelcrawford8401 Scottsdale is considered part of the greater Phoenix Metropolitan Area. Perhaps you've never been to AZ.
@@michaelcrawford8401 Scottsdale borders Phoenix 🤦♂ that's like saying Santa Monica and LA are two completely different areas
I had the opportunity To visit PHX last year in April & it was awesome ! Got to see the Dbacks play against the padres at chase field & I had a great experience. Gallen pitched and the D’backs shut out the Padres and the crowd was absolutely electrified ⚡️ chase was jammed packed with padres fans lol As a Mets fan I love chase field and went it was built in the 90s they changed the game with the pool in the outfield. Very cool feature. I love the large pitcher friendly dimensions and the high 20 foot wall in dead center at 407 feet from home plate gives you a challenge to smack one over it. I love how they never changed their dimensions. The food and beer wasn’t over priced and the tickets 🎫 are good price for great seats. Yes the upper deck is a bit superfluous and it makes chase cavernous but I’m sure they can just conduct some renovations to it. They had the roof open the evening I attended the game and it was about 90 degrees during the day maybe 82 game time and it dropped to about high 60s at night and they left the roof completely open which was dope. Also PHX has a decent light rail system which got me around town pretty good especially from the airport. Chase field has a great location in downtown PHX and hopefully they won’t leave. I would love to go back and watch them play my Mets one day.
You make it seem like moving from Phoenix to Scottsdale would be a huge move. Phoenix and Scottsdale border each other lol
More importantly it's in Arizona. They're NOT the Phoenix Diamondbacks
Big chunk of the fan base drive in from Scottsdale anyway
@@micmac99 As do most of the players
I live in Phoenix and if I drive 2 miles I'm in Scottsdale lol
As someone who travels to all those spring training fields annually in the dead of heat. It was laughable when I saw the headline and the proposed location!
This man loves some rooftop bars lol.
Coyotes got kicked from Desert Diamond Arena not Footprint
That's what I was thinking Footprint Center was their 1st arena to play but in an odd rink configuration. Desert Diamond was their true hockey arena
They were in Footprint first
@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena - I believe that hockey weas also played in the Memorial Coliseum at fair grounds for a while too, but that was probably the road runners
It is stupid that every 20 years or so all these professional sports teams in North America always bitch and complain about the stadium🤦♂️🤦♂️
Relocate to out of the Phoenix area to Scottsdale??? That is not relocating out of the phoenix Area.
Don’t worry, Shohei Ohtani will boost the attendance at Chase Field and it might be enough for the Diamondbacks stay in Downtown Phoenix
Only when the Dodgers go to Phoenix...
Attendance isn’t the problem. They just want money for renovations because they claim the stadium is old and outdated.
I do love Chase Field. There’s something special about seeing a baseball game indoors with 80 degree AC going while it’s 110 outside lol
80 degrees is a heater lol.
@@805fillmore I went to a Diamondbacks-Braves game back in 2010 when I drove from Louisiana to California. It was 114 degrees outside and walking inside the stadium felt like walking into a refrigerator.
@@lochnessmonster5149 I bet man, my point though was the temperature is likely set at like 65-70 but with all the people 80 is likely the temp.
Me when I was in Houston lol
My. theory is that MLB owners wanted to use Oakland as an example (unanimous approval of relocation, waiving relocation fees). Now all of the billionaire owners can extort their host cities for stadium upgrades. I also think MLB will hold off on expansion as long as possible. Once Nashville and one other lucky city get an MLB franchise, the other owners will lose their leverage.
The Braves have got everybody thinking more than baseball now with all the building they did around their stadium. They created a whole new mini-community of iffices, condos and restaurants. That's what the Titans have promised with their new stadium, but we will see. Nashville doesn't need anymore stimulus. There is no shortage of people wanting to move there.
No there was not a threat to leave Arizona. Did you listen to Kendrick at all? He iterated, yet again, that the diamondbacks are part of the fabric of Arizona. The headline on this video says they’re threatening to leave Arizona. No. They’re not. They never did. Please listen to Kendrick again.
Kendrick is a liar! Ginger has a point on this video!
Kendrick is fronting
Clickbait.
For your information I'm up in Vancouver Canada and the team is being sold to investors here in Vancouver. It's their last season in Arizona. Kendricks is lying to all you residents there.
@@anthonys3631 2,000 years from now, nobody shall even remember that Vancouver had ever existed. "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind" (Isaiah 65:17, KJV). Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Establish the Kingdom of Peace in Jerusalem (Isaiah 9:7, KJV)!
I went to the first game at the “BOB”. The majority of ballgames I’ve attended have been there too. I agree that the upper decks are too large and the centerfield could be reimagined, but not too much…it’s what gives the ballpark its character.
Scottsdale is not “relocating.”
Do you own a map?
This happens every year before season starts
If I was commissioner, I’d make sure no stadiums are built with public funds.
You wouldn't be commissioner for long.
Not practical. Not every owner is Stan Kroenke and can afford to build on their own dime. The other thing is, financially speaking, there are very few cities where you can build a privately financed stadium and make a guaranteed profit because events AND corporate money will go there no matter what (LA and New York and Miami). That leaves very few other cities where municipalities HAVE TO provide public funding for their stadiums in some form.
The big conundrum, that is also not practical, is figuring out what to do one multiple parties want new facilities at the same time. It's easy when, say, the Colts need a new stadium and they're the only pro team that needs a new massive home at the time. It's another thing when, say, both the Bears and the White Sox need new stadiums basically in the same neighborhood, lol, and the state, county, and city leadership in Illinois has to figure out how to help them.
Commissioners work for the owners. So that would never happen.
@@maxkeebs4425 It is 100% practical. The Giants funded their own stadium by taking out a 20 year loan. The rest was funded with PSL and advertising. The City didn't pay a dime for that stadium and have no obligations towards it. They did some minor street improvements and added public transit which was going in anyway. Other owners can do exactly the same. To say they can't do it is just total and utter bull honky. Other owners just want a free handout and don't want to take on debt. Most to the time with a new building the value of the franchise goes up. Raiders have more then doubled in value and Davis got a free handout. And by the way the Giants won 3 WS got to another when they were still paying off that loan.
You would be fired immediately! Also there's nothing wrong with public money, especially for MLB Ballparks. On average they bring in over 2.5 million people a year to the ballpark area, it's huge for the local economy
Isn't Scottsdale a Phoenix suburb?
Nope. They are on complete opposite ends of the state.
@@michaelcrawford8401Bruh
@@michaelcrawford8401 You either are trolling or have never been to AZ in your life.
@@jaggerdebusk14 I was born and raised in PHX. I know more about AZ than anyone else.
@@michaelcrawford8401 dude you can drive from Phoenix to Scottsdale in like 20 min... I'm born and raised in az. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Scottsdale and Phoenix literally border each other lol they aren't "relocating out of the Phoenix area". This is 100% a bluff. The current location of Chase Field in downtown Phoenix right next door to the Suns arena is the best possible location for a ballpark in the state. Any other location would be a complete downgrade.
I think Depressed Ginger may be onto something with his idea for a website involving stadium renovation news and teams threatening to relocate. This would be...uh, pretty spicy stuff.
I was in Milwaukee in 2010 and saw a game. I was talking to one of the ushers who told me that the stadium never had an air conditioning system that was adequate. I guess that will be one of the updates. I would have liked to see them move to Portland and return to being the Pilots. Arizona--typical move by rich guys to get the poor to pay the bills for their desires! I'd like to see the D-Backs move to Mexico City or Las Vegas (there was a previous threat to move there), and for the A's to move to Arizona.
The Arizona Diamondbacks stadium was originally known as BankOne Corporation Ballpark. Now, it’s JPMorganChase and Company Field.
It will always be The BOB to me
Correction, the Brewers are replacing their centerfield scoreboard with a bigger one. The Brewers’ centerfield scoreboard is not being reconfigured. And they’re adding a videoboard in right field.
I don’t know what your beef is with the scoreboard in centerfield. I don’t have an issue with it. I don’t think many people have an issue with it.
Hard to take them seriously.
Chase field will not be gone. Instead it will turn into soccer stadium for future mls Phoenix rising fc. Which is extremely likely to happen here for sure. Real see what will happen here.
That would actually be a major W for Phoenix Rising.
Rob Manfred has been a total trainwreck of a "commissioner"
You can’t take away the D-Backs from Arizona, they’re the only team in that area to ever win a championship.
FYI the team has been sold to a group of investors here in Vancouver Canada and are relocating here. The Sonics left Seattle as well remember and they won a championship to in 1979.
Back in the day they would keep a stadium for 50 years
I think MLB should force the other 29 owners to pitch in a few million so there’s a less tax burden on the public
Owners! As a baseball fan i appreciate my team's 60+ years old stadium i go every year (go Dodgers!) You guys are fking greedy! If you can't afford to keeping with renovations, just sell the team! Don't ask for the public $
Cities need to start telling these teams… Get bent…. Chase field is beautiful.. so CF looks ugly to you… Big Flip… Frankly, The D-Backs have a beautiful park… if they don’t like it… well, good luck with a move… it won’t be that easy…
Yeah Phoenix actually has some leverage. For Oakland, there’s literally a team 5 minutes away in SF.
@@805fillmore I’m a bit more old-school. 100 years ago, these teams bought the land and built their own facilities… then after WWII… suddenly they started holding cities hostage. Recently though, I’ve started seeing a few cities that are starting to wake up and stop playing that game… the teams need them more than the cities need the teams.. the reason why some NFL teams are building their own stadiums.. MLB cities need to push that.. when these cities realize that if the team builds…. they have a harder time walking away from their equity… Major sports teams, they get that new stadium/arena.. when the first lease is up.. back to the threats.. that cycle needs to end.
@@ronpeacock9939 are you talking about LA? They told the NFL to kick rocks and eventually the Rams came back.
@@805fillmore Yup… LA told the Rams they could build.. but LA and California would not be putting in any $$$ to help… and that stadium is beautiful.. all private too… The bears have been trying the same thing but for some stupid reason Illinois is trying to stop them… The bears should simply threaten to move to Gary, IN or at least start LOOKING at property there.. close enough to Chicago.. but not in IL…might just shake them up enough to let the bears do their project
The stadium needs some love, it’s a big outdated especially level 2, but it’s honestly in a prime location,
No public money for rich guys toys so tired of these football teams, baseball teams they’re all a pain in the ass
Go Diamondbacks
Such a clickbait title
I'm an A's fan in the Bay Area, but I've spent a lot of time in Phoenix with friends. I've been to Chase Field. That is a gigantic cavern of a stadium with that ceiling closed.
from an Oakland A;'s fan, we tried to warn other fans that they were next. from the bottom of my heart i'm sorry this could happen to yall, from someone in the middle of it.
And is it that bad ? Multi billion dollar owners can fund their own d(*( buildings. Oakland is still paying off Mt. Davis and paying the bare mim on those bonds, its estimated it will take 20 more years at best like paying just the bare min on a credit card it never gets paid off.
@@scotttildwhich is why Gertrude Stein was right about Oakland
D-Backs fans are way better than Oakland fans.
@@805fillmore dbacks fans never organized their own giveaway of 7k plus shirts. Which A’s fans have. Tried to be nice but apparently it’s fuck us even when we do. Don’t say i didn’t warn yall when phoenix gets their arm twisted for hundreds of millions for a 25 year old stadium.
What a gib ojednep
Winnipeg Jets leave Winnipeg, in Canada, a hockey team, for Phoenix, where it is 110 degrees for half the year. It was stupid back then, and very stupid now. Now, Winnipeg has the Jets back, and Phoenix has a clusterphuck NHL franchise that will leave, and an MLB team that plays in an aircraft hangar. It's probably karma.
It was the nhl commissioner's idea, at that time, of expanding nhl to South.
What happens when you play in a big market
Phoenix is a more valuable market than Winnipeg.
If the diamondbacks move to Scottsdale, they would need to rent and buy land from the reservation and pay a percentage to tribe. It could be an issue that they most likely don’t wanna get their hands in.
Move to Oakland
As an Ahwatukee resident I’ve never heard of this “Scottsdale” place, but frankly it sounds made up. Maybe I’ll plan a vacation there next year. Hopefully I can find a flight that goes all the way out there. What’s the weather like, do I need to pack snow shoes?
Another team just hopped on the relocation train
As a Giant’s fan who has been to the D’Backs stadium several times I say it is nice. It is no comparison to our stadium which is only 2 years younger. Yes center field is a weak link in yours. We still have the best address in baseball. Plus it was all done without public funding. We almost lost the Giants because they couldn’t get public funding in many cities here in the Bay Area. So good luck to them to get their improvements and make it a nice stadium to visit.
I'm up in Vancouver Canada. I know some prominent business folks here in Vancouver. Team is relocating up here after the season being told.
@anthonys3631 whoever told you that is lying to you
The Diamondbacks did **not** threaten to move. That's a media interpretation. The managing partner stated the **fact** that a number of cities are exploring the possibility of adding major league teams. That's all.
Arizona needs to fix their election process first. If they don't than the Diamondbacks leaving will be a minor issue.
San Antonio and Austin is ready!
Relocate to Las Vegas who was supposed to be their original home in the first place..Tell the A’s to go someplace else
Call their bluff. I'm tired of these billionaires shaking down the public.
A Scottsdale move would be horrible. Like the Chicago move to the burbs
The notion that the Brewers "threatened" to leave Milwaukee completely mischaractarizes the truth. It was reported that the terms of the lease state that the team has the right to relocate if the stadium district does not maintain the stadium to the standards of the top x-number MLB stadiums. When asked if the team would leave without renovations the team said it was something they would have to explore. WOW! What a threat. You make it sound like a scene from the Godfather...."either your signature or your brains will be on that contract." If you don't pay your rent you get evicted. Is that a threat? No. It's the reality of the lease.
Great channel! Thanks Depressed Ginger!
They won’t leave but I don’t blame them for wanting public money
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Good riddance.
I am from Phoenix, I went the opening game … I watched the stadium be built, I personally have worked on this stadium … enjoyed both World Series.. that said, f*ck this team.. let them leave …
Misinformation right off the bat. Scottsdale adjoins Phoenix, and both are in Maricopa County, so it's not "out of the area." The Coyotes left their arena in Glendale, and never played at The Footprint Center. Get your facts straight!!
BY Public Money what do they mean? Like sales tax? or Bonds? Imagine seeling construction bonds that fans could buy and literally own park of the Ball Parks...
The only city I visualize acquiring the DiamondBacks is Salt Lake City.
iTalk already brings up how D-Backs ownership has no intent of leaving Phoenix, and that they can pay out of pocket for the renovations. So they're not threatening to relocate by any means, so a little misleading there…
I myself don't want to pay for stadium upgrades as they are willing to pay players tens of million a year, but want the tax payers to pay for the stadium. I live in Phoenix and don't care if they leave.
Move them to Las Vegas, Utah or Portland.
Their relocating to Vancouver. I know sources here telling me that.
There will be NO new ballpark in downtown Phoenix. Most residents are still pissed about Chase Field. The most likely scenario is the D-backs move to the Salt River Fields area, near the casino.
FYI I'm up in vancouver Canada. Team is relocating here after the season. I know business folks here in Vancouver assuring me they are relocating here.
Ken Kendrick is a billionaire in his eighties. He should just calm down instead of hinting about relocating.
Attendance wise? I think the reason being the Dbacks been just an average team the last decade mostly and they upped ticket prices too along with food. I know everywhere is up. Also think outside of the Suns, most the Arizona sports teams have always had a fair weather following, Suns being the outlier here because of being the original franchise to the city
More than likely they would move to where they play in the Cactus League..Salt River Fields on the Salt River Indian Community in the Talking Stick area. More land to develop and closer to the East Valley, where most of the fan base is.
Buffalo Diamondbacks
There is no relocation threat. Kendrick said it wasnt and Derrick Hall confirmed it wasn't. They arent leaving Chase or AZ, its the way of getting money for renovation is the problem. Read the articles people.
Plus those renderings are over 6 years old and outdated
FYI I'm up in Vancouver Canada. Kendrick has visited Vancouver multiple times. Told buy some prominent business people here in Vancouver the team has been sold and is relocating to Vancouver after the conclusion of the season.
Utah will take them
This story plays throughout America, even at the minor league level. Cites will build a new stadium to LAND or KEEP a pro team, but then won't spend a cent to sustain or maintain them. Cities or counties are the landlords, the pro teams are just tenants. When you lease is expiring your landlord will most likely offer improvements to the property to get you to sign a new lease. The expenses will be recouped with the new lease. The proof is in the pudding, you only need to google images of the recently built Hodgetown in Amarillo and the former Potter County Memorial Stadium built after World War II... Amarillo spent 38 years in purgatory without affiliated minor league baseball before the new stadium landed another affiliated team...
In an odd twist of fate, 3 of the 5 oldest MLB parks are in California. As for the Coyotes, perhaps they decamp to Salt Lake City? Would not even have to change their name.
California is the most populous state in the entire country so don’t get the point. It’s not like California just left Mexico 10 years ago lol.
this guy's autism is seriously similar to mine i feel like i have a spiritual bond with you brother
Scottsdale won’t give them public subsidies 😆
We want to move and build an entirely new stadium, and y'all are gonna' pay for it.
whys he keep saying “leave phoenix area for scottsdale” as if its not a suburb lol
The only teams that should be relocating is Tampa Bay Rays and Miami Marlines. Florida has no market and it makes sense for those teams to go to Vegas or Nashville. And hockey in Arizona makes no sense and the White Sox should stay in the Southside of Chicago.
I still don’t get your beef with centerfield at Chase, it’s unique and fun.
These subsidies have to end...
And scottsdale wouldnt want them either because they dont want people going into their town and vandalizing and what not
The city of Phoenix must be punching itself because the city of Tempe denied the coyotes from building their own arena which they were almost going to pay exclusively for in private funds, and now the DBacks are wanting half a billion to stay. It just sounds like sports in the city are collapsing, they need a win somewhere.
Why would you want the Coyotes franchise associated with your city? I would want my city to be known in a positive way lol
@@PHXNKVHXLIC they bring in money and who doesn’t want an NHL team? It brings in tourism and money to surrounding businesses and such. Businesses in Glendale have gone to the gutters now that coyotes have left because of the lack of business. It’s overall a thing you should want in a large metropolitan area.
Why spend 1/2 a billion stadium for a sport that’s dying a baseball stadium can only be a baseball stadium
Let them go... Scottsdale won't spend a dime
Just no with the fentanyl crisis and homelessness and all the other bullshit in Phoenix and Arizona the answer should be no
Don’t let the door hit ………….
Oakland needs a Hockey a Team.
Terry from Savannah nothing wrong with Chase field and if Diamondbacks want to leave let them leave maybe nobody will want them .
Diamondbacks given up the coolest stadium in the nation? Yeah no.
Chase Field is already nice though😂
I was convinced a couple years ago they were going to LV.
FYI they are relocating up to Vancouver Canada
We cannot allow billionaires use their own money to build things. We cannot tax billionaires, because we owe them.
Call their bluff
Dam do all teams just threaten to leave, millionaires to broke
Billionaires wanting handouts. Guess that’s how they got rich. Franchise goes up 100 times in value, they get free renovations, then they eventually cash out. Good work if you can get it. I guess they’ll be setting up a Go Fund Me too. 🤣
A total of 6 people would care if they moved. Welcome to AZ
Scottsdale is a way nicer area. Glendale did good with the Cardinals stadium.
that stadium is great, why tf they want more money, have you been to the phoenix suns footprint center? that's trash and needs the money more than chase field
Corporate welfare
The Arizona Diamondbacks aint moving out of Arizona Plain and simple dont be dumb
look at what's happening in Oakland
in Arizona it would be way worse