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14" K Hi Hat vs 14" A New Beat Hi Hat
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2016
- 2 Zildjian heavy weights. Both are great. As feel heavier but sound darker compared to the Ks. Sorry for the phone camera. I'm a drummer, not a sound engineer.
![Which Cymbals RECORD Better? [Zildjian A's vs K's]](/img/n.gif)
This is why you have no furniture
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It’s prolly just a rehearsal room??
wakakaka...
K 🥰
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you did a better job of demoing both hats than the over-miced big shop retailers do. Mainly also because instead of trying to show off chops, you hit simple but consistent strokes that someone can actually listen to and compare. Good job-thx
bluesky did a better job than guitar center!
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bluesky^
Pitch and timber are separate qualities that are easily confused, as in these comments. Many people are saying the K’s are brighter, but they’re not, they just have a higher pitch. Listen to the timbre when he splashes it with his foot. The k has a more mellow tone where as the A has sparkly high tones coming out. Yes the k are higher in pitch, but they are clearly darker.
The K sounds so crisp and clean and upfront. Digging it.
This is great. Both sounds are good. Its really hard to choose, so i could see having both.
Two of the best in the biz and worth owning both. I like the warm, mellow brightness of the A’s and the dark, rich crispness of the K’s. Both sweet and buttery with the perfect amount of attack 💯
They are 2 classics both are great hats.
wooo, first one in! great video man, short & sweet, and to the point. i think that's how all gear vids ought to be.
must be nice owning all these hats. especially these two.
Possible he rents them
There is no winner here. They are both equally great. I would have to have both. As these are my top 2 favorites.
Gonna go back on my word. After having both pair for several years, I now favor the new beat hats over the Ks. They are just so crisp and versatile.
I have also changed tastes, myself. Started playing on A's, moved on to K's for years, and now I'm finding that the A's are what my ears want to hear these days. Funny how that happens.
I have both and switch back and forth. Lately I’ve been very into the A’s. The are crisper and when you play stuff where the hats are more closed is where the A’s really sound better than K’s. Both are really good though. If I had to pick just 1 it would be tough but I might have to pick the A’s. Unlike this video they are brighter and crisper. But be warned they are much louder when riding them in an open position than K’s so you may need some cotton in your left ear when playing them, lol
@@danagboyer it is because ears are so bad in terms of right feeling. They lie to us too often! Eyes are better ones
Both sound great & compliment each other well. I use a pair of 1977 A 14" New Beats, & a pair of 1990 K/Z special 13" high hats in a double high hat set up. They complement each other well.
Funny ,but the A's sound darker.
Should be the other way around.
cpu554 the Ks are a little musher and darker under the stick. The As are crisper and have a sharper stick attack.
A's actually do have a low pitches, on the whole. The overtones are what cause the 'brightness' that are associated with the A and A Custom cymbals (though, the A Customs do have higher pitches than the A line). With that being said, there are K Customs that are higher in pitch when compared to the A series (the K Custom 20 inch ride is a good example of that. This ride sounds more like something we would expect from an A.) I have found that both of the 'Custom' lines are really my least favorite overall. The A Zildjians have everything one could need, in my opinion. The 20 inch Crash Ride, to me, is the perfect 50's jazz sound ride. I actually feel that all of these new super dark, super dry cymbals are getting TOO dark and dry. For me, the A's sit perfectly within any musical context. Cheers!
cpu554 Agreed. I recently found out the thickness of cymbals effects the “darkness” or “brightness”. Thick cymbals tend to sound higher in pitch/brighter so I think maybe the K’s are thicker.
@@Quartiano No, Ks are most certainly thinner compared to As
Nuclear Hotdogs which of the sets sounds darker to you in this particular video? If you agree that the A’s do what factor is making this possible? Like what is a more in depth opinion you have on these two sets of hi hats?
Have both and love them
Bought the K's . Even though they sound awesome I discovered I like hats that sound brighter and explosive. Went for the A customs
Perfect comparison. I have K hats, but I think I wish to switch. New Beats sound better of the two for me, and from another video New Beats also sound better to me than A Customs. Thank you.
Голос , у Вас просто "обворожительный"..!! Маэстро.
Despite the K’s being heavier, I still think they have a lower pitch and a much more refined sound.
To me I hear the A’s lower in pitch.
Can you do mix for us? New beat bottom and k top? I really wonder!
I use 15" K Sweet top hi hat with 15" A Series Mastersound bottom hi hat.
Perfect combo. If only Zildjian made 16" Mastersound bottom hi hats...
decisions decisions. how to choose? so many out there.
James Bryce Check out the 14" Z Custom Dyno Beats, 15" Z3 Mastersounds, and 14" K/Z Specials. I own a pair of 14" New Beats from 2001 and get compliments on them, but they sound a bit spongy and wishy-washy.
And I’m just rocking here with hi hats that I don’t even know the name for.
Cool video, very informative.
Thanks.
A's all day !!!
Great comparison, thanks much!.
I've got some 2010 New Beats and some 1991 NB's as well (still shiny and bright looking). I also have a new set of K's...(ALL 14").
Both A's are bright, med-heavy and crisp when closed or slightly open...then a bit clangy and heavy when opened a centemer or more. The 91 model is crisper, heavier, more aggressive and somehow more musical and playable (than the 2010 NB's) when opened. On heavy stuff, they sound KILLER when opened. They were a great $100 (used of course) score. I prefer them over the 2010 NB's.
I'm struggling to like the K's. In louder situations, the A's cut considerably more. The K's are quieter and a little low in pitch for me. They're a little trashy-er, less focused and kind of...I dunno..."muddy" I guess...
They are very crisp however. They're slightly dark and warmer too. I might like them in a lower volume setting. I'll keep giving them a try I guess before I sell em.
EastBay MauiBoy - Live both of these cymbals. To be honest, I don’t play either much. Been using 14 K and A Mastersound hats. With the K Mastersound you get the cut of the As with the dark buttery tone of the K. Best of both worlds.
@@RazeTheWeak
Well that raises a question for me... I have an opportunity to get a 14" A Mastersound bottom (2005) in great condition (9 of 10) for $90.
I'm thinking about getting it so I can mix and match it with my New Beats and my K's...
What do you think?, in your opinion, should I jump?
EastBay MauiBoy I have personally contacted zildjian and asked if there was a difference between the top K and/or A new beat cymbal and the top A and/or K Mastersound top cymbal. They informed me that they were identical, and that only the bottom cymbal was different with the New Beats and K hats. So if you get this bottom cymbal, you will basically have a pair of A Mastersounds. And like you said, you can put the A Mastersound bottom under the K top and create what, in my opinion, is one of the best sounding set of hats that there is. Hope that helps.
@@RazeTheWeak
It TOTALLY helped...Thanks!. You actually answered two (or 3) of the things I was wondering about, like the top hats being different or not on the New Beats vs the A Mastersound, or if they were more or less the same. Well that's cool, now I'm really considering it, just to have more voicing on my kit. I like lots of sizzzle, and I hear the A Mastersounds give you plenty. Considering a brand new set of A MS's is $360, buying that bottom (I told you about) for $90 might be a no-brainer
@@eastbaymauiboy i have the older A Mastersound hats and i sometimes use an old AA Regular bottom hat with the Mastersound top. Sounds completely different . Like New Beats .
Also just bought some AAX X Celerator hats . I do the same with those and have a different sound again. I love it !
Good video, owned them both. Adidas A Mastersounds 13" are tops/
Good Comparison, Thanks!
better when you arent against the wall its going to make the other one sound more open
Hah I like this comparison, it’s got a bit of humor
The New Beats sound more clangy. I think the Ks have it.
Lorenzo Maximo - They ARE a little more crisp. Ks have a certain sizzle about them and are actually a little heavier than the New Beats. That being said, if I had to pick one of the two particular pairs, I would choose the New Beats. I’ve had them both for almost 4 years and the New Beats are my “desert island” hats. I love them. Also have some 16” Avedis hats (the new ones that are supposed to look vintage) that are INCREDIBLY versatile and are also at the top of my list.
@@RazeTheWeak
I have a pair of 15" A Sweet Hats that blow my New Beats away. I think the top New Beats cymbal is a bit too heavy.
Lorenzo Maximo - I have some 15 sweets too. Don’t play them much actually, although they aren’t much different that the 15 New Beats I have that I play all the time. I have learned that I like heavier hats more (even though my particular pair of 15 new beats are kinda light). I have some 16 k lights that don’t get played a lot either. Just not as crisp as the heavier pairs.
@@RazeTheWeak
I hear what you're saying. The problem with most high hats is the weights are not consistent. Thus the exact same model doesn't mean they'll sound the same. I've got a set of 60s hats that I will never part with. A Sizzle nicely and have a nice dry stick sound.
"A hats sound darker..... I was surprised."
Greg Peller It is because the K hats are heavier.
Surprised that the A’s are much more lower in pitch. I would love to buy a set of K’s, but I’d probably have to sell my condo to raise the money! Lol
The As are 3 semitones higher?
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With that recording they sound just like my planet z hi hats
omg those ks sound so much better here to me
I dig the A.
Gimmie those
You should mix both a k and a together to see what dynamic sound you will get! Haha
H2MOVIEMAKERS I mix them all of the time. I like the A on top and K on the bottom combo
I've used a K top and New Beat Bottom. Sounds amazing.
@@BB.156 I agree. I use a 15 inch K light top with a 15 inch A new beat bottom. Sounds awesome
thank you
K better good video!
I hear a difference in pitch and that’s it
I cant believe i chose the A's...always a K fan, I guess the old ks sound better...
To be fair, they are both great choices. Hard to tell in a blind test, even with modern recording equipment. Had a pair of 15 K pets from the late 80s/early 90s. Sold them like a dumbass and they quit making them. Still regret that choice to this day.
Very similar
I prefer the K
Combine the hi hats, place the top K where the top A goes and vice versa so you can see that it gives another color to the sound
O jeito que testou parece que está pregando um prego na parede de concreto
k sounds better
My new beats sound like the K's
Use the same foot, you open more the new beat.
I never was a big fan of the K’s
A, adios xd
K’s are better for me
New beats for me 15s r better
Move to Turkey
Quickbeats.
K top and QB bottom is a great combo
I been playing drums for 50 years and sound is lower or higher in pitch, not darker. There is no such thing as a ghost note either. Beats are accented or not accented, it is sti a beat, not a note. You youngsters are making up words and sound foolish.
Methinks tis better to remain silent than be judged foolish....
The newer models of the New Beats are trash in my opinion, literally. They sound more trashy and less crisp and clean.
Millard Curtis - I love hearing people’s opinions regarding cymbals. I feel the exact opposite. I find the As are very crisp/clean and speak with a clear voice. Hats like the K Cons are trashier in my opinion. Meinl has some Byzance hats that are dark and dirty too. Much more funk than the As have.
hmmmm...good point. Maybe the ones I played on just weren't the best
Millard Curtis - In all fairness, this is my third pair on New Beats. Took me that long to find a pair I liked.
Avedis_ 2000 why was that?