2023 Tour de France Tech Trends | What Are Pros Riding?

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • This video contains paid product placement for Lezyne. Even since last year’s Grand Départ in Copenhagen, the archetypal Tour de France has changed and evolved.
    We had the scales and tape measure out while casting our forensic eyes over the bikes at this year’s race start in Bilbao to find the tech trends of the pro peloton.
    Which do you think will trickle down? Let us know in the comments 👇
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Komentáře • 125

  • @bikeradar
    @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +6

    Do you have any of these on your bike? 👇

    • @amitkumar-wj8gn
      @amitkumar-wj8gn Před 11 měsíci +1

      Seriously? THAT is how you attack us mere mortals? After liking, commenting and subscribing? Damn, I even pressed the bell icon. :(

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci

      Okay we admit, we'd love to be riding some of the tech on those bikes too! Plenty of us do run wider tubeless tyres on our bikes and Simon enjoys his narrow bars 👉czcams.com/video/9JuhSAJhJjo/video.html

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 11 měsíci +1

      I have the same gps-mount, not sure that count.

    • @amitkumar-wj8gn
      @amitkumar-wj8gn Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@bikeradar yup, i am afraid I jumped the gun here....I assumed you talked about the bikes too....yes, you are right. Can;t afford the bikes but can surely afford alloy handlebars and tyres (at least once in a while)

    • @rudyardroxas4586
      @rudyardroxas4586 Před 11 měsíci +3

      I think I used the same electrical tape to fasten the handlebar tape.

  • @JimJCJimbo
    @JimJCJimbo Před 11 měsíci +125

    Yes, I use the same air as the pros do

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @parenthlete
      @parenthlete Před 11 měsíci +1

      You run pure nitrogen? Dude need to relax

  • @maxt1617
    @maxt1617 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Great video, as you grouped the key trends together and gave analysis. Whereas GCN's video on the same subject just went from team to team and talked about paint jobs, 3D printing and carbon Ti disc spiders. They missed that bikes were getting lighter, 1X drivetrains, more stretched stems and TT tech on road bikes.

  • @hkw3169
    @hkw3169 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Saving this for later knowing I’ll never afford any of this
    Great video👍

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I’d like to see at least one stage in the tour or maybe any complete grand tour use standardized equipment….every rider has the exact same bike. Different manufacturers could be involved but the standardization is like the Japanese Keirin racing bikes. The only differences in performance will come from the riders and not the gear. I get why the gear innovation matters from an industry marketing perspective but a standardized equipment platform would be a great innovation for bike racing fans.

  • @victorrodriguez2806
    @victorrodriguez2806 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Those Specialized Turbo cotton Tubs are made by Vittoria.

  • @XxxxTxTxxxX
    @XxxxTxTxxxX Před 11 měsíci +38

    Pogacar probably using wider tyres because his wrist is still healing and it helps to smoothen the rides

    • @laurenz323
      @laurenz323 Před 11 měsíci

      Could be

    • @rydelatorre21
      @rydelatorre21 Před 11 měsíci

      Yup, that's probably their main reason for doing so..

    • @TnFruit
      @TnFruit Před 11 měsíci +4

      Well, on 25mm Hookless Rims the recommended minimum tire width is 28mm and they get 30-32mm wide on them. Math is simple.

    • @munki2
      @munki2 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I agree! I came here to write this

  • @18dbofgain
    @18dbofgain Před 11 měsíci +4

    Jumbo uses 1X as the SRAM front mechs only works as and when it wants too.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak Před 11 měsíci +4

      and the chain still falls off.

  • @gokaygs
    @gokaygs Před 11 měsíci +2

    How does a 1x setup improve chainline????

    • @Lukearthwalker
      @Lukearthwalker Před 10 měsíci +1

      Right?! That's literally impossible, in fact, 1X makes it worse.

  • @johnboxxy3432
    @johnboxxy3432 Před 11 měsíci +2

    All this money and tech but they can't avoid punctures and chain drops.
    Chains coming off seems strange, derailer tensioners have been around a long time .

  • @tomeklubomir
    @tomeklubomir Před 11 měsíci +5

    Bad press for Pirelli tyres if even Pog and UAE is riding Conti in TDF and not the sponsor tyres, the fact they blow up so wide on the Enve rims is secondary…

  • @pierrex3226
    @pierrex3226 Před 11 měsíci +18

    How is 1x improving chain line? I think it materially worsens chain line! Or what am i missing?

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +16

      A 1x chainring can be placed more centrally, meaning chianline can be more optimal in the middle of the cassette - where riders would typically spend most of their time (assuming they've optimised their gear ratios properly).
      f course, if they spend a lot of time at the extreme ends of the cassette, then the chainline could indeed be worse than with 2x, yep. All about getting the ratios right for the parcours.
      Personally, I'm still a big believer in 2x over 1x for road bikes, but interesting to see different approaches: www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/1x-on-road-bikes/
      Cheers for watching! Simon

    • @WesternUranus
      @WesternUranus Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@bikeradar On a 10-36 SRAM cassette, the middle third of the cassette is 15,17,19,21.
      Paired with a 48t chainring at the front that gives you between 26 and 36 kph at 90rpm.
      So that's nice and all but that doesn't checks out at all with TdF stages average speeds.
      Pros ride way faster than that on the flat and slower in the climbs hence why they need 2x to get the right gearing.
      The reasoning with 1x is completely flawed anyways since you're not supposed to use the middle of the cassette. One uses the middle of the bottom half on the big ring and the middle of the upper half on the small ring, giving the perfect ranges for flat and climbs respectively.
      The middle of the cassette is merely a convenient overlap zone of gear ratios for the rider to transition easily.

    • @jonathanzappala
      @jonathanzappala Před 11 měsíci

      There was a great article by diamondback about the Andean and 1x chain efficiency, but I can no longer find it on the internet. They did not know the quantity of aero gains, but the friction losses are theoretically smaller than the aero gains.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +3

      @WesternUranus I don't think the pros are riding 1x with 48t chainrings - especially not on flat or rolling parcours. Van Aert used a 52t ring for Milan-San Remo, for example: www.bikeradar.com/features/pro-bike/wout-van-aert-1x/
      Either way, though, I'm not advocating anyone switches to 1x - I'm simply pointing out that it's a trend at this year's Tour, and attempting to explain why that might be.
      If you want to know my personal thoughts on 1x, you can read this column I wrote recently, which is titled "Simon says: 1x road bikes are a solution in search of a problem": www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/1x-on-road-bikes/
      Cheers, Simon

    • @pierrex3226
      @pierrex3226 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@bikeradar very nice article. Same boat here. The 1x feels like SRAM trying to push its backwards engineering, with chainrings that are too small, cassettes that are too small, just to piss away watts in the name of novelty. 1x on the flat though, yes, it's fun to push a very big ring and go silly fast in tuck.

  • @enigma1000
    @enigma1000 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I’d be more interested in a ‘bike cap’. You can have one bike to ride throughout the race. Any spare bikes must be identical, including tyres and wheels.
    This would focus development on all round performance, reduce cost and complexity of running multiple bikes, be more relevant to most amateur cyclists, be an interesting challenge for the technicians to optimise the choice for varied terrain and it would be simpler for teams and their mechanics. What’s not to like?

    • @ohnezuckerohnefett
      @ohnezuckerohnefett Před 11 měsíci

      Everything.

    • @enigma1000
      @enigma1000 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ohnezuckerohnefett Ok if that’s your opinion but what’s your better idea?

    • @mikegaskin5542
      @mikegaskin5542 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Bike industry wants people to believe that they need multiple bikes. Just like running shoe industry introduced the idea of a “shoe rotation”

    • @szurketaltos2693
      @szurketaltos2693 Před 11 měsíci

      @@mikegaskin5542 okay but your shoes do get smellier if you wear them everyday

    • @roadcyclist1
      @roadcyclist1 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@enigma1000let them use as many bikes as they want. Who gives a flying f?

  • @JoshuaTootell
    @JoshuaTootell Před 11 měsíci +3

    Weight matters to the typical rider because:
    -They can feel it.
    -They cant go fast enough (especially on climbs) to take advantage of aero.
    -They cant ride an aero position anyway
    My old SuperSix is about 14.5 pounds. Feels great to pick up. But I just got some nice aero Rovals for my "gravel" bike (I don't ride gravel and it has 28mm tires) and it certainly feels faster everywhere, which I don't like 😂
    I am light, have a decent FTP, and can adopt an aero position, so it works. Im going to swap to a more aero frame in the near future. I'll ride the SuperSix on my big climbing days (I am surrounded by mountains) and the aero bike (with discs, great in the rain) for everything else.

  • @bubbastard
    @bubbastard Před 11 měsíci +7

    Not even world tour teams trust SRAMs front derailleurs.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Sram not being able to build a decent FR is the only actual reason why there is 1x in the first place. It's even stupid on MTBs since it gives you a bunch of super-small climbing gears but no big gears to comfortably pedal along on +50 kph downhills or simply for fast riding in the flats.

    • @bubbastard
      @bubbastard Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@einundsiebenziger5488 I agree, but that's not really why its on MTB. Getting rid of the front derailleurs allowed mtb bike rear suspension design to evolve and be what it is today. If you're going 50+ km/h on downhill on a mtb on trails, the chances that you are pedaling are slim to none.

  • @michaelvrbanac6923
    @michaelvrbanac6923 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Any significant climbing needs to be on a 2x. Allows more efficient gearing. Tubulars for racing. Tubeless for TT's. Rim brake bikes are lighter and more aero. Difference between TT tires and road tires isn't worth the watt or two.

    • @szurketaltos2693
      @szurketaltos2693 Před 11 měsíci

      1x climbing is fine... If it's up a consistent enough grade, hence some TTs are being run 1X.

  • @m.talley1660
    @m.talley1660 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Shimano called "sponsor of the majority of teams" might best be scripted as the choice of the majority of teams. SRAM is likely paying Jumbo a lot for these experiments. Shimano may have a sponsored team costing a bit less.

  • @shibaburn7725
    @shibaburn7725 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Often such narrow handlebars aren't available to us regular cyclists. What do the UCI rules say about that? I'm surprised that Shimano doesn't offer a larger chainrings than 54/40, given the very high average speeds.

    • @roadcyclist1
      @roadcyclist1 Před 10 měsíci

      I had no problem getting 38 cm bars on my ribble ultra sl r. No idea why you think they are not available. Plenty of bike manufacturers let you customize your bar width.

    • @shibaburn7725
      @shibaburn7725 Před 10 měsíci

      @@roadcyclist1 Which manufacturers allow me to customize with 36 cm bars? And where can I get the bars that Caleb Ewan uses? It's like you didn't watch the video.

  • @erich8258
    @erich8258 Před 11 měsíci +5

    The alleged aero advantage of 1x always gets repeated with little to no supporting evidence (also to justify the added drag of the Classified hub). It's probably nearly nothing.

    • @jonathanzappala
      @jonathanzappala Před 11 měsíci +1

      Call them out for not giving proof for their claim, and make a claim of your own without proof. ;) just giving you a hard time ;)

    • @szurketaltos2693
      @szurketaltos2693 Před 11 měsíci

      The air there is so dirty I'd be surprised if it was measurably different. The only advantage is the psychological one mentioned in the video, i.e. ease of use, unless you have a heavy bike or are not racing UCI in which case I guess it's a couple hundred grams.

  • @JingsWorld
    @JingsWorld Před 10 měsíci

    The only advantage we as daily riders from the TDF racers are we carry spare tubes and pump. They don’t.

  • @markschmalenberger8301
    @markschmalenberger8301 Před 10 měsíci

    I don't know what material the teeth on that one x chain ring are made of,but they sure appear to be wasted.😮

  • @arthurd6495
    @arthurd6495 Před 11 měsíci

    I've read that (and found in practice, for tube setup) that putting 28mm tires on 25mm inner width rims is a bad idea and results in a significantly higher chance of pinch flats. Is this false? Is it false for tubeless, but true for tube? Welcome anyone's thoughts. thanks.

    • @Piklzzz
      @Piklzzz Před 11 měsíci +3

      Wider tires is a scam, they just want us to spend more of our money on tubeless, which just don't work with high pressure, so they have to push 28-30-32mm tires down our throats. And it's a common thing to give a different bike to the public than the one that was actually ridden, remember all those "stage winning bike" reviews with disc breaks, when the state was ridden on a bike with the rim breaks.

    • @Scheeringiscaring
      @Scheeringiscaring Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Piklzzz30mm tires are just so much more comfortable than the old 25s i‘d rather sacrifice performance on perfectly smooth tarmac for better grip and comfort on slightly uneven tarmac that hasn’t been repaved in the last 6 months

    • @barrowsworm1226
      @barrowsworm1226 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Piklzzz You need to do some actual research, as you are plain wrong. Spend some time looking up the rolling resistance testing which has been done. It has been proven that 28 mm tubeless road setups at more moderate pressures are fastest on normal road surfaces (not the track, where the surface is much smoother). And if you still think rim brakes have an advantage, well, I just cannot help you-or perhaps you rude somewhere with no technical high speed descending.

  • @tomrachellesfirstdance7843
    @tomrachellesfirstdance7843 Před 11 měsíci +7

    From Cavs interview yesterday I bet he wishes he has the good ol true and tested 11 speed duraace

  • @victorrodriguez2806
    @victorrodriguez2806 Před 11 měsíci +4

    It's funny how once a person has ridden and / or own a Specialized race bike, then try something else( anything ). They realize how horribly rough and rigid that bike is. Sure it's technically everything a bike should be for racing. But in the end, nobody wants to be beat up by the bike between their legs.
    I own 2 basso's, 4 Bianchi's a Willier, a maron and one specialized. I will never buy another Specialized ( race bike). I'm just not into torture.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak Před 11 měsíci +1

      Laterally stiff, yet....

  • @andrewlabat9963
    @andrewlabat9963 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Does anyone who rides, and is honest, thinks that any difference in these bikes makes the difference? Not when the difference between the most and least expensive is unmeasurable efficiency. Planning, how good they on it that day, luck (good or bad) all is the difference. This is why pros, and none pros win on every equipment combo available to them. I'd think salary budget and being able to pay the best cyclist and team managers who run the show makes up the real difference.

    • @roadcyclist1
      @roadcyclist1 Před 10 měsíci

      Of course it makes a difference. Have you ever ridden more than 1 type of bike in your life?!

    • @andrewlabat9963
      @andrewlabat9963 Před 10 měsíci

      @aewfan7066 LOL, LOL.. then why cyclists win on every type of bike combo.out there? Look, you don't need to justify spending an ass load of money on the bike you want, just do it. But when you're talking the best components out there by different manufacturers, no it doesn't..

  • @Nyarlathoth
    @Nyarlathoth Před 11 měsíci

    The Colnago and the Willier are as aero as my 300$ Triban. Budget does not mean performance in a manufacturer's advertisement show.

    • @szurketaltos2693
      @szurketaltos2693 Před 11 měsíci

      Your $300 triban has a more upright, wider position unless you changed out the stem and handlebars. That's going to be most of the difference, though the other differences range from probably minutes over the course of the tour (wheels, overall weight) to seconds or less.

  • @kallewirsch7915
    @kallewirsch7915 Před 11 měsíci

    Why is MVDPs bike so heavy? 7,95kg!

    • @gregmorrison7320
      @gregmorrison7320 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Large frame built with added stiffness for his immense power?

    • @molder2233
      @molder2233 Před 11 měsíci

      Bloody hell!

    • @chadbarbaro
      @chadbarbaro Před 11 měsíci +1

      strength and stiffness still has to be there regardless of materials. mvdp is a big strong guy.

    • @kallewirsch7915
      @kallewirsch7915 Před 11 měsíci

      @@chadbarbaro You mean when I buy a stock Aeroad with 7,2kg and push 1500 Watt it will break down? I don´t think so. Never heard about stiffness problems with this model.

  • @donwinston
    @donwinston Před 11 měsíci +6

    A one by does not improve chain line. It will make it slightly worse unless you compare it with a two by being used improperly.

  • @barrowsworm1226
    @barrowsworm1226 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Comments here suggest people really do not understand that 28 mm tires are faster over road surfaces, period. For road racing (not TTs, or track) with asphalt road surfaces, 28 mm tires are the new standard for most road pros, and many newer rime are optimized in terms of aero benefits for 28 mm tires especially rims from Enve and Zipp.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 Před 11 měsíci

      Not if they don't run flush with your rims or you don't have clearance on your frame...

    • @barrowsworm1226
      @barrowsworm1226 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@gourami7 Contemporary rims like Zipp and Enve are specifically designed to achieve best aero performance with 28-30 mm tires, they are wider for this very reason. Current road frames are also designed to fit wider tires, specifically because they are faster.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak Před 11 měsíci

      supporting evidence?

  • @db613
    @db613 Před 11 měsíci +2

    DA 9100 mechanical is lighter than 12 speed 400 grams

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +1

      🤔It is a little lighter, but I don't think it's 400g - it's just 35g according to Shimano's claimed weights. Unless you're talking about rim vs disc brake groupsets? Total Energies are running Dura-Ace Di2 R9170 (the disc brake groupset), though, on their Specialized Tarmac SL7s.
      Cheers for watching, Simon

    • @db613
      @db613 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@bikeradar I was mistakenly comparing my Ultegra mechanical vs 12spd DA... the battery adds weight. I love my 11 spd mechanical is 2272 grams against 2514 grams DA 12sp plus I swapped to a lighter DA cassette and saves 400 grams. Cant see changing to Di2 12 any time soon

    • @tsc4842
      @tsc4842 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@db613don’t know what u r smoking but you are completely off with the weights..

    • @wisnuaji783
      @wisnuaji783 Před 11 měsíci

      O😊

  • @Dyoochoob
    @Dyoochoob Před 11 měsíci +2

    Anyone know how much the hidden motors actually weigh?

  • @johnd1466
    @johnd1466 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Controversial I know but “it’s not about the bike”

    • @andrewlabat9963
      @andrewlabat9963 Před 11 měsíci

      No, not when the difference between the most and least expensive is probably less than half a percent efficiency. Planning, how good they on it that day, luck (good or bad) all is the difference. This is why pros win on every combo available to them.

  • @TenSapphires
    @TenSapphires Před 11 měsíci

    We don't have equipment like pro's, they have mechanic and spare bikes, we don't.

  • @devinmorrison7131
    @devinmorrison7131 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The riders are ditching the front derailleur because new bikes are so heavy. Grams are more important than aero when it matters most at gradients above 10% when they can hemorrhage major time.

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB Před 11 měsíci +8

    No to "budget cuts to level the playing field". The TDF is the premier, F1 event of the sport and should be treated as such.... You just can't get in the ring with Ali because you think you can box.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +8

      Formula 1 actually does have budget caps in order to level the playing field and increase competitiveness 😉Cheers for watching, Simon

    • @kennys1425
      @kennys1425 Před 11 měsíci

      @@bikeradar MotoGp too also same ignition parts and tyre manufacturer across all bikes.

    • @jonathanzappala
      @jonathanzappala Před 11 měsíci +1

      F1 teams design and build their cars, world tour teams get paid to ride them, cost cap comparison falls flat.

    • @jonathanzappala
      @jonathanzappala Před 11 měsíci

      One more thing to add, does said budget cap apply equally to world tour teams and continental teams? Why should a continental team like total direct energies have the same budget as TJV?

  • @mskelly330
    @mskelly330 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I'm not opposed to budget caps. It'd be a shame if pro cycling turns into the Premier League, where the wealth gap is so painfully obvious and exploited.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Well wasn't that the case when Sky/Ineos won so many GTs and had a roster of GC leaders with triple the budget of most teams ?

  • @einundsiebenziger5488
    @einundsiebenziger5488 Před 10 měsíci

    Almost 8 kg for a +10,000 €/$/£ road bike is offensive! Yes, aerodynamics might be more important than weight, but a light aero bike is still faster than a heavy one. And why all the effort to make bikes more aero (and close to non-serviceable) by routing all cables and hoses inside the stem and frame and then completely negating this effort with super-wide tyres that add the surface area back on that was saved by hiding the cables?

    • @roadcyclist1
      @roadcyclist1 Před 10 měsíci

      Apparently you think you are smarter than all the engineers and teams at the very top of the sport who have every interest in performing the best. The gall.

  • @x3631
    @x3631 Před 11 měsíci

    stupid suggestion to introduce budget capped

  • @stibra101
    @stibra101 Před 11 měsíci +1

    People are riding lighter steel bikes than pro bikes today!

    • @DCassidy42
      @DCassidy42 Před 11 měsíci +3

      It's about the whole system weight. A 130lbs rider with a 20lbs bike is still going to go up a hill faster than a 150lbs rider with a 15lbs bike.

    • @stibra101
      @stibra101 Před 11 měsíci

      @@DCassidy42 Light bikes are more fun to ride, it does not matter how heavy the rider is.

    • @Dyoochoob
      @Dyoochoob Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@DCassidy42 yeah but that 130lb rider might be quicker on the 15lb bike no? :)

  • @cxwrench1
    @cxwrench1 Před 10 měsíci

    Stop saying 'c' when describing tire width...it's millimeters.

  • @DrJRMCFC
    @DrJRMCFC Před 11 měsíci +5

    If I want wide tyres, I'll ride my mum's shopping bike.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před 11 měsíci +7

      Is your mum's shopping bike also a Colnago V4Rs with ENVE wheels and Carbon Ti parts?

    • @patrickbateman7444
      @patrickbateman7444 Před 11 měsíci +1

      What an L take, what a dumb, ignorant statement. Once you tested 28mm tubeless (i ride the Schwalbe pro one) you will never go back to 23mm 8 bar garbage. It's faster, more comfortable, more grip, it is so much better.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 Před 10 měsíci

      @@patrickbateman7444 Won't go back to 23s, but 25s give me enough grip to go down my favourite local descent without braking. Understand 28s if you live in an area with bad roads. Anything wider is useless.

    • @patrickbateman7444
      @patrickbateman7444 Před 10 měsíci

      @@einundsiebenziger5488 28s are faster than 25s in most conditions. Modern wheels like my DT Swiss ERC 1400 are aerodynamically optimized for 28s. 28 is the minimum you should ride these days

  • @kabobsyea9985
    @kabobsyea9985 Před 8 měsíci

    Go back school mate

  • @Piklzzz
    @Piklzzz Před 11 měsíci

    Wider tires is a scam, they just want us to spend more of our money on tubeless, which just don't work with high pressure, so they have to push 28-30-32mm tires down our throats. And it's a common thing to give a different bike to the public than the one that was actually ridden, remember all those "stage winning bike" reviews with disc breaks, when the state was ridden on a bike with the rim breaks.

    • @seanmccuen6970
      @seanmccuen6970 Před 11 měsíci +2

      my light, fast 30mm road tires with latex tubes at 40psi front/46psi rear on modern wide rims ain't no scam. it's pure win/win; speed, rideability, traction, durability, comfort.
      no fkn' way I'd personally ever ride anything smaller than 28's at this point.

    • @szurketaltos2693
      @szurketaltos2693 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Why are you worked up that the industry is actually trending towards something good for consumers (more comfortable ride, fewer flats)?

    • @richardhaselwood9478
      @richardhaselwood9478 Před 11 měsíci

      Oh go away. Wider tyres are amazing. Lower rolling resistance, more comfort, and more speed. Tubeless is pretty great too (I'm not road tubeless yet though).
      And disc brakes are so much better than rims, it's not funny.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 Před 10 měsíci

      Wider tyres are* a scam / disc brakes*, rim brakes* - otherwise completely agreed.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@richardhaselwood9478 Lower rolling resistance is nonsense once you're past 28mm. Also rolling resistance is by far the least significant of all types of resistance you have to overcome when riding a bike. Dropping a tyre's weight by 10 percent will make you much faster than dropping your tyre's rolling resistance by 10 % (if the latter is at all possible). How is having to push added weight up a hill "more comfortable"?

  • @9118693223
    @9118693223 Před 11 měsíci

    clincher tyres still on pro cycling?? i thought that only us , the recreational riders, still ride on them ...