It's a shame that there's no ladder on Showdown for most of these metagames. For instance, I'd love to play DPP NU but it's really difficult to find anywhere to actually play it.
i could see anyone having fun in that because even though its "competitive" its still chaos with everything from previous gens and what was added from gen 7 :p
top 10 meta games DPP UBERS DPP OU DPP UU DPP RU DPP NU DPP PU DPP ZU DPP LC DPP Doubles DPP 1v1 that concludes the top 10 best meta games ever thanks for watching
bw uu gave me a deep abiding appreciation for so many mons i hadnt given a second thought to prior. sableye and sharpedo are two of my favorite pokemon ever now and i didn’t care about them at all before building a team with them
Gen 4 OU was probably the best metagame and was the end of what I’d dub “classic pokemon”. It really felt like gen 4 “rounded out” previous gens with the special physical split and adding new evos to mons from older games. While power creep was a thing with the new offensive items and what not, things felt relatively tame in increase of power when compared to each subsequent generation which just shot up exponentially. Gen 2 OU is arguably my least favorite. Even though I miss full EV’s tremendously cuz game freak keeps trying to make mixed attackers, I just hate how centralizing snorlax, zapdos and raikou are and the over abundance of leftovers and rest talk.
I quite like gen 2 because of the slow pace. Because of lax/Raikou/Zapdos's variability in sets you need to play slow, get the download, and do what you need to do to win. I think lax is overestimated a lot because of it's "unkillableness" but I think the best thing it has going for it is it's variability which is why scouting is so important. If you are able to find it's set it is much more manigable. Gen 2 is much more technical in a sense due to all of this, and I enjoy that. (You can dislike gen2 too I've had 200+ turn games of mindless double switches lmao)
BW RU is a throwback, I remember my first team I ever made was just all the cool pokemon I was excited to use now that they had a tier to be viable in like aggron, absol, etc. I just threw life orb on all of them and tried to play lmao It also started my deep love for cinccino
I just wanted to Use Cinccino back then I. gen 5. So, I played that meta a bit when I was more open on Smogon community. But today, I distance myself from Smogon because competing in this game is not fun anymore.
I stopped playing Showdown around Sun & Moon came out since I didnt like Beast Boost, Z-Moves, and Surges but Im getting back into Showdown and giving Gen 7 OU another shot and its a lot more fun than I remember and now I even think its lowkey underrated
I started in BW2 OU, so that's probably always gonna be my favorite. While all the older players hated the power creep, I always liked that part abt it. It makes the games more fun to watch imo, b/c it's interesting to see how the best players dance around all the broken stuff in the metagame. I've rly enjoyed the Gen 4 Ubers content recently, b/c that meta has a similar feeling of having tons of powerful attackers, and you gotta know how to play around them, rather than having hard counters to everything. Also, Hot Fuzz is such a gem, easily one of my favorite movies of all time!
Gen 7 was a little over-hated. From gen 4 and onwards, you can be REALLY creative with strategies and made for some really fun times. Gen 3 is nice, but I don’t think Pokémon competitive got REALLY great until gen 4.
Never played much Gen 6 Ubers but really loved Gen 7, for a lot of the same reasons you talk about in gen 6 Ubers. Arceus and all its forms make teambuilding very fun, feels like you can fill almost any gap. Groudon Primal was pretty centralizing but I somehow don't mind it, it can't chip heal and there's plenty of good ways to check it and deal with it, decent set variety too. In Gen 7 I love the addition of Magearna as a great check to Xern and Yveltal, and Z-moves added a lot of creativity. Z-Heal Bell was a cool option for example on Magearna, and Arceus being able to carry Z-Moves on different type forms added a lot aswell. Lunala and Solgaleo are also awesome additions imo. I will say Necrozma Dusk Mane was a bit stupid, a bit too versatile and good at disguising its sets I'd prob really like Gen 6 Ubers, I should give it a try
Z Geomancy has to be one of the coolest sets imo. Rainbow boost turn one, then geomancy turn two. It requires such careful positioning and play to be able to survive two defenseless turns, but it's so crazy strong. Also usually foregoes all coverage for longevity like ingrain and rest. One cool mechanic is that sleep talk can't call geomancy so you have much better odds to moon blast. Plus you can keep boosting with geomancy as intended afterward to become unwallable. I love gen 7 ubers. Z necrozma is another mon with sick mechanics, the fact it can do so much and completely turn into another mon at any moment w a lot of different checks is so cool. I also love zygarde and its form change. I often use a playstyle I dubbed "bulky hyper offense". It's HO but with mons that attempt to boost with offensive and defensive snowballing to become either unwallable or unkillable. Cloyster is a great sash lead for t spikes to make progress while you boost, and if the opponent tries to set up on it, it can shell smash back. Spin or spikes in the last slot. Then you use mons like sub coil glare/or double dance zygarde, z geo xern, bulky Pdon, necrozma dm, facade/roost mega mence, a screens user etc etc in order to set up while the opponent chips down from poison and turn into a big ball of stats. Super fun! Can do a similar playstyle in most OUs with stuff like demon mew, reuniclas, quiver dancers/calm minders/bulk up users, etc etc etc.
List for those who just want the numbers: 10. DPP NU 9. GSC UU 8. BW1 OU 7. DPP LC 6. ADV UU 5. ORAS Ubers 4. DPP OU (Latias + Salamence era) 3. BW RU 2. DPP UU 1. DPP Ubers
Gen 4 is so good. Too bad BDSP is garbage truck juice when it comes to competitive. Took out so much shit when it should be adding more since Pokémon is all the way up to gen 8.
It's a bit in shambles right now since the Vullaby ban and the following Scraggy quickban (because that thing instantly became op as hell without a broken Flying type around lol), but it's still very cool. The rise of Koffing is so cool to see, how both Ponyta forms are viable in their own rights, seeing all of the priority roaming around between Grassy Glide, Mach Punch, First Impression, Fake Out, Sucker Punch and the occasional Aqua Jet or Extreme Speed (Zigzagoon is legit underrated in the tier, it's so easy for it to pick you off late game). This tier is insanely cool and I'd recommend everyone reading this to play it (or rather to wait a tad bit for the metagame to stabilize, right now Mienfoo is at +90% usage just because it's the best glue in a tier that's in restructuration, but I'm sure it will be sorted out in a few months at worst. Hoping this comment won't age poorly)
I love BW RU so much. At this point, it’s probably my favorite tier. Teambuilding in it is such a blast and is what made me truly fall in love with the tier. It’s such a shame that there’s so little enthusiasm nowadays with most reusing the same teams every RUPL and other RU team tours.
Great video. Just yesterday I was talking with my lifelong friends that played competitive Pokemon and I spent a good hour talking about the good ol' days of spamming bad hyper offense in XY RU, my favorite tier
My favorite was Gen 6 OU because Megas evolution is my favorite gimmeck. Sure, Ferrothorn, Rotom-Wash, and Landorus-T are still annoying but that doesn’t stop the satisfaction when you manage to beat them
Could you make a video on the 200 metagame (pre-emerald ADV, so it doesn't have any pokemon added by Emerald, FR/LG, and Colosseum, and XD)? It must be extraordinarily different considering a ton of major pokemon just aren't in the meta
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 defenetly not. Its not even close to overwhelm everything. Hes defenetly the best Hazard-based Pokémon in the tier with great offensive presents. Hes not the beast you remember from Bw OU when it was allowed but he is a great Pokémon non the less. It should be one of the best 10 Pokémon in the tier. Not top tier tho.
@@Cobalt957 excadrill raises some cool exceptions to the tiering system that’ll never be addressed. It’s a mon that’ll be Ou next tier change (last month it had the usage for it but it didn’t over the course of 3 months, I’m assuming due to hail becoming popular). But clearly, it’s not too much for UU. Makes me wonder what other mons in higher tiers could theoretically be played in lower tiers without killing the meta.
I really liked NatDex initially; but felt the meta was too ridiculous with the numerous threats running around. Then they banned AshGren, Torn-T, and various other mons and I was like “yeah, I can fuck with this meta; if they ban Mag too, it’d be perfect” Then they unbanned AshGren, and I rage quit Gen8 as a whole
You mention near the start that you dislike uncontrolled chaos in your metagames. Would something like a metagame where all the Pokémon are balanced by level fall into that? (Assuming for argument’s sake that you could achieve a theoretically perfect balance.) Or do the actual strategies the Pokémon use, and the randomness involved in those strategies, matter more than the Pokémon themselves?
One Of My Favorite Metagames Is ADV NU I Had a Lot Of Fun Battles With It And It's Really Fun To Use Pokemon Like Glalie Hitmonchan And Sudowoodo Where Their Actually Good It's Just An Overall. Fun Metagame
@@tootsie_ Fair enough. I'll agree a lot of pokemon are very broken in 1v1s; I just feel that sw-sh's doubles meta is outright one of the best metas in the entire series; and honestly I think that's fair.
@@fraggnum__9660 i dont disagree. For the first gen ever, i actually cared enough to watch some VGC for more than 10 minutes and thats admirable. However this is also the gen that made Aegislash, one of the most broken singles pokemon of all time, UU. Singles in SwSh is genuinely incredibly unfun, but the VGC is ok.
@@tootsie_ And I agree with that too. A lot of designs this generation were balanced with VGC in mind; all the pokemon with built-in/encouraged choice items were a testament to this, for instance. Also, this is a complete nitpick BUT: I think the aegislash example is a bit odd, as aegislash falling to UU is more a consequence of people finding as many answers to the overwhelmingly powerful ghost pokemon running around OU as possible (specifically, Spectrier) but I get the gist.
@@fraggnum__9660 it's just an example of power creep that gets a bit out of hand. Like yeah Gen 5 had power creep, as did gen 6, but If you told me 6 years ago that Aegislash would be UU I would have called you a liar lol.
The opposing Rotom used *Trick!* The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!* The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!* The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!* The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!* The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!* The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
@@BKCplaysPokemon Dude, not to sound like a fan boy but you replying to this has made my day. At 4:30am. Love your videos man. You're so low-key about your own matches and career. It's really cool. We'd all love to see you breakdown one your smogon wins or high stakes matches. Knowing what you were thinking at the time would be awesome. Keep it up 👍 And Hot Fuzz is badass
I always loved gen 3 OU and UU the most, gen 3 was ths GOAT competitively for me even though it was the point where the games themselves started to fall of in my opinion.
is there any way we can still play BW ONE (not two) ou? it might be my favorite format by far also at 23:42 - 23:54 you said that landorus incarnate was allowed in gen THREE and then trailed off... could you imagine what a monster that would be in gen 3 ou? might be a fun video concept.
I feel you could con your way into being a professor at a progressive college teaching some kind of game theory course to talk about this shit & get paid 6 figures for it
ADV OU DPP Ubers Oras OU Oras UU Oras PU SM ubers SM NU SM OU SM 1v1 The last one might be DPP OU for fun but I hate the mechanics before gen 6 and I feel like it’s really not balanced at all
Depends on what your like or dislike in a metagame, everyone's got different tastes and finds different tiers more or less enjoyable. I like gen 1 UU a lot but its not for everyone.
smh after a whole week I finally have time to watch the whole video and there's only one oras metagame? xy/oras uu is my personal favorite also is there a way to play bw1 ou still
It's a shame that there's no ladder on Showdown for most of these metagames. For instance, I'd love to play DPP NU but it's really difficult to find anywhere to actually play it.
or something like that i forget
Ah yes Gen 4 where almost everything was viable even that Rock dinosaur
Rampardos
The rock dinosaur with the highest base attack in OU at the time
*Especially* that rock dinosaur
(At least Tyranitar, Rampardos is cool too but a far cry from Ttar)
Rhyperior, ttar, rampardos
Lmao 😂
BKC: i like long, pretentious art movies
also BKC: i need to watch hot fuzz again
you can love both! I sure do
pretentious art movies engage the mind, hot fuzz heals the soul
Hot Fuzz is art though
hot fuzz is masterfully constructed, like, the way it escalates and changes genre as it does so is unreal
ive watched a ton of "trash movies" in my life and hot fuzz certainly isnt one of them, its legit a good movie in what it does
Gen7 UU was my personal favorite. It’s also the only meta that I was even close to good at, but that’s totally beside the point 🤧
i could see anyone having fun in that because even though its "competitive" its still chaos with everything from previous gens and what was added from gen 7 :p
i used spider web araquanid to trap fat waters, it was great, the fat pink fish with the evil r ability didnt stand a chance when i rested on it
@@smw2k2
GOOD
Same lol
Not relevant to the discussion but I like the ability to play gen 7 with gen 5 sprites.
top 10 meta games
DPP UBERS
DPP OU
DPP UU
DPP RU
DPP NU
DPP PU
DPP ZU
DPP LC
DPP Doubles
DPP 1v1
that concludes the top 10 best meta games ever thanks for watching
I wish the RU, PU, and ZU existed. I believe in a meta game where every fully evolved Pokémon has a tier!
This list is missing gen 5 UU (gen 4 OU part 2)
Dpp Monotype be malding
CORRECT
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 Pu and zu technically do exist but they’re not as widely talked about as the others
Gen 5 UU is my jam. Has some of the coolest mons out there and i played it a shitload when gen 5 was around
bw uu gave me a deep abiding appreciation for so many mons i hadnt given a second thought to prior. sableye and sharpedo are two of my favorite pokemon ever now and i didn’t care about them at all before building a team with them
Gen 4 OU was probably the best metagame and was the end of what I’d dub “classic pokemon”. It really felt like gen 4 “rounded out” previous gens with the special physical split and adding new evos to mons from older games. While power creep was a thing with the new offensive items and what not, things felt relatively tame in increase of power when compared to each subsequent generation which just shot up exponentially.
Gen 2 OU is arguably my least favorite. Even though I miss full EV’s tremendously cuz game freak keeps trying to make mixed attackers, I just hate how centralizing snorlax, zapdos and raikou are and the over abundance of leftovers and rest talk.
I quite like gen 2 because of the slow pace. Because of lax/Raikou/Zapdos's variability in sets you need to play slow, get the download, and do what you need to do to win. I think lax is overestimated a lot because of it's "unkillableness" but I think the best thing it has going for it is it's variability which is why scouting is so important. If you are able to find it's set it is much more manigable. Gen 2 is much more technical in a sense due to all of this, and I enjoy that. (You can dislike gen2 too I've had 200+ turn games of mindless double switches lmao)
I hate spore in moder gen 4
gen 4 would be so good if iron head jirachi and no guard machamp didn't exist, they hard ruin the format for me
@@cryptooooooooo Yeah.. the idea of an entire mon just relying on bullshitting you is pretty damn annoying, even if you have ways of outplaying it
Power creep has gotten out of hand I think gen 6 is where it started. The Unova pokemon are trash no one uses them competitively.
BW RU is a throwback, I remember my first team I ever made was just all the cool pokemon I was excited to use now that they had a tier to be viable in like aggron, absol, etc. I just threw life orb on all of them and tried to play lmao
It also started my deep love for cinccino
I just wanted to Use Cinccino back then I. gen 5. So, I played that meta a bit when I was more open on Smogon community. But today, I distance myself from Smogon because competing in this game is not fun anymore.
I stopped playing Showdown around Sun & Moon came out since I didnt like Beast Boost, Z-Moves, and Surges but Im getting back into Showdown and giving Gen 7 OU another shot and its a lot more fun than I remember and now I even think its lowkey underrated
I started in BW2 OU, so that's probably always gonna be my favorite. While all the older players hated the power creep, I always liked that part abt it. It makes the games more fun to watch imo, b/c it's interesting to see how the best players dance around all the broken stuff in the metagame. I've rly enjoyed the Gen 4 Ubers content recently, b/c that meta has a similar feeling of having tons of powerful attackers, and you gotta know how to play around them, rather than having hard counters to everything. Also, Hot Fuzz is such a gem, easily one of my favorite movies of all time!
Sooooo glad that my viewership can help pay for your Netflix subscription. Thought your intro was hilarious!
I really do like Gen 7 Ubers despite Pdon having a stranglehold on the tier. It never felt broken
Gen 7 was a little over-hated. From gen 4 and onwards, you can be REALLY creative with strategies and made for some really fun times. Gen 3 is nice, but I don’t think Pokémon competitive got REALLY great until gen 4.
I was top 20 in the tier, it was definitely good but sometimes could feel restrictive team building because randomly losing to geo xern is frustrating
@@crenando288 wtf you mean top 20 it's literally number 1
@@TheBestFormOfHumor what? I said I was on the top 20 in the tier not that it's the 20th best tier
@@crenando288 oh
I read it wrong
My bad
This is what this has all been building up to and it’s glorious. Gen IV - V had the best metas imo
Never played much Gen 6 Ubers but really loved Gen 7, for a lot of the same reasons you talk about in gen 6 Ubers. Arceus and all its forms make teambuilding very fun, feels like you can fill almost any gap. Groudon Primal was pretty centralizing but I somehow don't mind it, it can't chip heal and there's plenty of good ways to check it and deal with it, decent set variety too. In Gen 7 I love the addition of Magearna as a great check to Xern and Yveltal, and Z-moves added a lot of creativity. Z-Heal Bell was a cool option for example on Magearna, and Arceus being able to carry Z-Moves on different type forms added a lot aswell. Lunala and Solgaleo are also awesome additions imo. I will say Necrozma Dusk Mane was a bit stupid, a bit too versatile and good at disguising its sets
I'd prob really like Gen 6 Ubers, I should give it a try
Z Geomancy has to be one of the coolest sets imo. Rainbow boost turn one, then geomancy turn two. It requires such careful positioning and play to be able to survive two defenseless turns, but it's so crazy strong. Also usually foregoes all coverage for longevity like ingrain and rest. One cool mechanic is that sleep talk can't call geomancy so you have much better odds to moon blast. Plus you can keep boosting with geomancy as intended afterward to become unwallable. I love gen 7 ubers. Z necrozma is another mon with sick mechanics, the fact it can do so much and completely turn into another mon at any moment w a lot of different checks is so cool. I also love zygarde and its form change. I often use a playstyle I dubbed "bulky hyper offense". It's HO but with mons that attempt to boost with offensive and defensive snowballing to become either unwallable or unkillable. Cloyster is a great sash lead for t spikes to make progress while you boost, and if the opponent tries to set up on it, it can shell smash back. Spin or spikes in the last slot. Then you use mons like sub coil glare/or double dance zygarde, z geo xern, bulky Pdon, necrozma dm, facade/roost mega mence, a screens user etc etc in order to set up while the opponent chips down from poison and turn into a big ball of stats. Super fun! Can do a similar playstyle in most OUs with stuff like demon mew, reuniclas, quiver dancers/calm minders/bulk up users, etc etc etc.
List for those who just want the numbers:
10. DPP NU
9. GSC UU
8. BW1 OU
7. DPP LC
6. ADV UU
5. ORAS Ubers
4. DPP OU (Latias + Salamence era)
3. BW RU
2. DPP UU
1. DPP Ubers
Conveniently left out adv ou
Every single gen 4 tier on here. God damn
Gen 4 is so good. Too bad BDSP is garbage truck juice when it comes to competitive. Took out so much shit when it should be adding more since Pokémon is all the way up to gen 8.
@@jesuspernia8031 is that you in your profile picture
@@Seinsmelled
Yes
my favourites are: all gen 4 tiers, gen 5 ou, gen 8 lc
Gen 8 lil cup is so good, I love that tier
It's a bit in shambles right now since the Vullaby ban and the following Scraggy quickban (because that thing instantly became op as hell without a broken Flying type around lol), but it's still very cool. The rise of Koffing is so cool to see, how both Ponyta forms are viable in their own rights, seeing all of the priority roaming around between Grassy Glide, Mach Punch, First Impression, Fake Out, Sucker Punch and the occasional Aqua Jet or Extreme Speed (Zigzagoon is legit underrated in the tier, it's so easy for it to pick you off late game). This tier is insanely cool and I'd recommend everyone reading this to play it (or rather to wait a tad bit for the metagame to stabilize, right now Mienfoo is at +90% usage just because it's the best glue in a tier that's in restructuration, but I'm sure it will be sorted out in a few months at worst. Hoping this comment won't age poorly)
I'm so glad oras ubers was included. the shit is criminally underrated as a tier
We’ve transcended to a higher plane! From greatest battles of all time to greatest metagames of all time
as someone who only plays modern natdex, ive always wanted to try more metagames! def looking to get into Gen 3 OU
I love BW RU so much. At this point, it’s probably my favorite tier. Teambuilding in it is such a blast and is what made me truly fall in love with the tier. It’s such a shame that there’s so little enthusiasm nowadays with most reusing the same teams every RUPL and other RU team tours.
Great video. Just yesterday I was talking with my lifelong friends that played competitive Pokemon and I spent a good hour talking about the good ol' days of spamming bad hyper offense in XY RU, my favorite tier
It would be interesting to see ur rankings for each gen of OU (I bet gen 8 is number one)
My favorite was Gen 6 OU because Megas evolution is my favorite gimmeck.
Sure, Ferrothorn, Rotom-Wash, and Landorus-T are still annoying but that doesn’t stop the satisfaction when you manage to beat them
Hot Fuzz is one of the greatest movies of all time, unironically
Could you make a video on the 200 metagame (pre-emerald ADV, so it doesn't have any pokemon added by Emerald, FR/LG, and Colosseum, and XD)? It must be extraordinarily different considering a ton of major pokemon just aren't in the meta
you got me feeling nostalgic for gen 4
that dumb belly drum charizard was my first ever competitive pokemon, along with an expert belt electvire.
i love ur passion for this game and how every vid feels like a movie lol
Liked for that intro lol never change bkc
Gen 6 OU is my personal favorite. It’s what got me into competitive Pokémon plus it’s the only metagame I play anymore
I also started with gen 6 OU but Brave Bird Talonflame just pissed me off too much at some point
Top 10 most EPIC Pokemon Showdown metagames to stomp salty legendary noobs!
*Stay tuned for #1 :0*
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I love lc doubles, Adv 3 NU, Dpp/bw Ubers and DPP OU and Oras NU.
Right now i adore S/S UU cz of Hydreigon and Exca and stuff
You think exca will get banned from UU?
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 defenetly not. Its not even close to overwhelm everything. Hes defenetly the best Hazard-based Pokémon in the tier with great offensive presents. Hes not the beast you remember from Bw OU when it was allowed but he is a great Pokémon non the less. It should be one of the best 10 Pokémon in the tier. Not top tier tho.
@@Cobalt957 excadrill raises some cool exceptions to the tiering system that’ll never be addressed. It’s a mon that’ll be Ou next tier change (last month it had the usage for it but it didn’t over the course of 3 months, I’m assuming due to hail becoming popular). But clearly, it’s not too much for UU. Makes me wonder what other mons in higher tiers could theoretically be played in lower tiers without killing the meta.
Wish protect hypno is as fun as it sounds -bkc 2021
Glad to see dpp nu get some exposure. It really is such a fun tier
Hot Fuzz is pretty important, I can understand.
We need a version of SPL where we have the pre Emerald ADV (also known as 200), pre Platinum gen 4, pre B2W2 gen 5, pre ORAS gen 6, and pre USUM gen 7
"My opinion is correct and a fact"
MY MAN
🤝
I’m a huge sucker for National dex
I really liked NatDex initially; but felt the meta was too ridiculous with the numerous threats running around. Then they banned AshGren, Torn-T, and various other mons and I was like “yeah, I can fuck with this meta; if they ban Mag too, it’d be perfect”
Then they unbanned AshGren, and I rage quit Gen8 as a whole
I'm off three tabs of acid and can say this video made my night
GEN 2 NU with KingXatu
Interesting that you included ORAS Ubers, because I loved gen 5 Ubers and XY, but I felt like primals specifically ruined the tier.
Gen 3 UU has almost all of my favorite Pokémon omg
You mention near the start that you dislike uncontrolled chaos in your metagames. Would something like a metagame where all the Pokémon are balanced by level fall into that? (Assuming for argument’s sake that you could achieve a theoretically perfect balance.) Or do the actual strategies the Pokémon use, and the randomness involved in those strategies, matter more than the Pokémon themselves?
“surprise energy ball” oh no
This is a fantastic video. Brought back a lot of memories. Do you support the current rule change of non hacked pokemon in the tournaments?
One Of My Favorite Metagames Is ADV NU I Had a Lot Of Fun Battles With It And It's Really Fun To Use Pokemon Like Glalie Hitmonchan And Sudowoodo Where Their Actually Good
It's Just An Overall. Fun Metagame
Was waiting for new video to fall asleep with your amazing voice :D
Hey I know you're really into competitive Pokemon and I have a 1 question. Why was Torterra Untiered in Generation 7?
Outside of low usage
Ngl sw-sh doubles and VGC are extremely interesting and diverse.
It feels designed with VGC in mind, to the detriment of the singles meta.
@@tootsie_ Fair enough. I'll agree a lot of pokemon are very broken in 1v1s; I just feel that sw-sh's doubles meta is outright one of the best metas in the entire series; and honestly I think that's fair.
@@fraggnum__9660 i dont disagree. For the first gen ever, i actually cared enough to watch some VGC for more than 10 minutes and thats admirable. However this is also the gen that made Aegislash, one of the most broken singles pokemon of all time, UU. Singles in SwSh is genuinely incredibly unfun, but the VGC is ok.
@@tootsie_ And I agree with that too. A lot of designs this generation were balanced with VGC in mind; all the pokemon with built-in/encouraged choice items were a testament to this, for instance.
Also, this is a complete nitpick BUT:
I think the aegislash example is a bit odd, as aegislash falling to UU is more a consequence of people finding as many answers to the overwhelmingly powerful ghost pokemon running around OU as possible (specifically, Spectrier) but I get the gist.
@@fraggnum__9660 it's just an example of power creep that gets a bit out of hand. Like yeah Gen 5 had power creep, as did gen 6, but If you told me 6 years ago that Aegislash would be UU I would have called you a liar lol.
I really love Gen 7 OU. Probably my favorite.
Did someone say Gen 5 OU? 😏
Hot Fuzz! A man of culture. Any suggestions for building a team in DPP NU with Sandslash?
The opposing Rotom used *Trick!*
The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
The opposing Rotom used *Hidden Power!*
when i play gen 1 ubers i feel like mewtwo
All the comments leaving out the true best tier of all time…
Gen 1 OU
They should’ve stopped there, it was perfect
new wifi battles? im in for dat
DPP OU before Mence ban, so no Latias and people didn’t spam Clefable
Did you ever end up getting to see Hot Fuzz again?
I've seen hot fuzz like 12 times or something by this point but thank you for reminding me I should increase that number
@@BKCplaysPokemon Dude, not to sound like a fan boy but you replying to this has made my day. At 4:30am.
Love your videos man. You're so low-key about your own matches and career. It's really cool.
We'd all love to see you breakdown one your smogon wins or high stakes matches. Knowing what you were thinking at the time would be awesome.
Keep it up 👍
And Hot Fuzz is badass
Even though I love gen 5, being the one I have most games in, I would love to try gen 4, I wouldn't know how to start though
I prefer a lot more the lowest tiers than the highest in generation 6 and 7
At least this video isn't hot fuzz
how dare you
What are your thoughts on gsc nu
seems interesting from the little I've played it
Is dragon rage allowed in Little cup?
How come when zf makes a risky prediction it's a "great move" but when I make one it's "zero skill garbage player go back to Roblox"
Top 10 Gen 4 metagames it seems :)
Gen 5 RU i liked it a lor
Do I need to send you some money?... And call the cops
Jellicent on every time? My kinda vibe.
I hope this video helped you renew your Netflix subscription.
I always loved gen 3 OU and UU the most, gen 3 was ths GOAT competitively for me even though it was the point where the games themselves started to fall of in my opinion.
gen 8 1v1 is the greatest tier of all time
Torterra in the thumbnail!!! 😍😍😍
Anyone who understands & respects DPP UU is a friend of mine :)
is there any way we can still play BW ONE (not two) ou? it might be my favorite format by far
also at 23:42 - 23:54 you said that landorus incarnate was allowed in gen THREE and then trailed off... could you imagine what a monster that would be in gen 3 ou? might be a fun video concept.
Looses to Celebi, 2/10
@@YunaLuni eq + slide + hp bug also pursuit t tar is still an option if you want hp ice
i liked early gen 8 ou
We all did....we all did
Gen 5 OU, that’s the best
Why does the thumbnail look like it's from Omori
Man, I really hate Gen 5 OU, there isn't a worse metagame out there! Gen 1 ubers
Soul control seems to really like mbv
I feel you could con your way into being a professor at a progressive college teaching some kind of game theory course to talk about this shit & get paid 6 figures for it
if you know of any such schools, please send them my way!
my top 5 meta games.
5. gen 4 ubers
4.oras ubers
3. gen 8 ru
2. gen 7 ru
1. gen 7 ou
current ubers might be the worst meta game ever created
What is current Ubers like?
DPPt OU GOAT
ADV OU
DPP Ubers
Oras OU
Oras UU
Oras PU
SM ubers
SM NU
SM OU
SM 1v1
The last one might be DPP OU for fun but I hate the mechanics before gen 6 and I feel like it’s really not balanced at all
the mechanics before gen6 ?
@@pikminologueraisin2139 yeah. 2x crits, broken sleep, paralyzing electrics, limited hazard removal, etc.
RBY Main seeing no RBY tier >:( bad video
jk good video
Worst Pokémon meta game: anything in gen 1
Depends on what your like or dislike in a metagame, everyone's got different tastes and finds different tiers more or less enjoyable. I like gen 1 UU a lot but its not for everyone.
@@shellnut8224 yeah im stating my opinion, not an objective fact
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But I like Gen 1 UU...
I do as well but everyone prefers different tiers, its not everyone's cup of tea.
smh after a whole week I finally have time to watch the whole video and there's only one oras metagame? xy/oras uu is my personal favorite
also is there a way to play bw1 ou still