Arcane was a goddamn top tier show but i know it isnt even going to be nominated for best TV show for Emmys because its animated....some people just dont appreciate art
I wouldn't be too sure about that actually. It's getting a TV screening for the Emmy's with the creators and some of the voice actors. It also dominated the Annie Awards. It's most likely winning "outstanding animated show" at the Emmy's.
That's why we have the Annie awards, of which Arcane made history by getting the most simultaneous awards for a TV show- Futurama got 9 awards over it's full run... Arcane managed 9 in one go.
@@kitana5583 i wll say that that show was a complete shit and giggle movie since the creator of the manga did that to show the stupidity of love. but it certainly was more interesting than Boss Baby.
“A Silent Voice” is one of the most stunning movies I’ve seen. Yes the story would have worked as a live action but anyone who’s seen it would agree that the melancholy, hopeful, devastating feeling that movie creates would be completely lost if the animation was gone. It’s gorgeous and that story of redemption would not have been as hard hitting in live action.
i think we should see more slice of life animation in western media. in anime they have this kind of stories. like, sometimes i don't need to watch an animated movie with constant jokes and obnoxious celebrity voice acting. sometimes i just need to watch an animated movie about people living their life and learning. and i think that's a missed opportunity because animation is an amazing art form. you can tell stories with not just characters talking but also animation style and cinematography. (and i agree with everything you said)
Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium just the same as any other drama, action, comedy, and more. Animation isn't for children, at least most, since adults can enjoy them too, and they don't make you less of an adult.
@@lizzyrank5405 ye its hard, i got my dad to watch demon slayer and he liked it, but I could tell he just didn't care for the animation and didn't give it a chance, or to put it another way because it was animation he didn't take it "seriously" as he would a movie so he wasn't as "invested" if that makes sense (well that and he was tired at the time of watching, he's usually busy and almost never watches shows, only movies)
Castlevania was also a HUGE step forward for Western adult-oriented animation. The animation is very heavily anime influenced with a killer story and brought to life a whole new world. Highly recommend.
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 They handle Issac so well usually when a character is changed it rarely offers anything interesting, but Isaac he had a different point of view and soo much nuance
People during the late 2000s and early 2010s: people who animate stuff must have no life whatsoever 😒 People during the mid and late 2010s: animators deserve more respect than live action
@@uria3679 Bruh, people who animate still have no life whatsoever. Do you realize how much fucking time it takes to animate even like 3 frames? Ages man, ages
people look at me weird when i tell them ratatouille is one of my favorite movies of all time. like, it’s not inappropriate in anyway for children but the movie itself like…don’t feel like it’s specifically made *for* children. it’s the feeling of a piece of art, a story that creative people are invested in telling us, it hits all the notes and more BECAUSE it’s animated.
That's what I used to love as a kid as well. Since I did not like movies that had the story dumbed down for kids with inuendos for the parents to endure.
I AM SO HAPPY YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS. As an artist, shows like Arcane were absolutely astounding, and that paired with plot and pacing made it a 10/10 for me. However, a shill of the show was so difficult because it was 'for kids.' just respect quality shows, animated or not!
A lot of people really didn’t like arcane (even though they didn’t watch it) due to it being part of league of legends, not because it was appealing to children. It was the biggest turn off
Arcane isn't really for kids though, I found it harder to get people into it because they thought you had to play League of Legends to get what was going on
Amazing how this got recommended to me after the disrespect that animation got from the Oscars, where they basically said ''Animation is the thing that kids love, and us adults have to endure.'' Great video, by the way.
@@midnighthijinks7387 ohh man, I wish I could tell you a clear answer, but I found this picture in Equestria Daily around 2011-2012, I think? I've used it as my profile picture ever since. Sadly, I don't know the artist's name.
I’m so tired of the obsession with live action, and in particular live action remakes. Animation inherently defines the story, and thus when something gets translated from animated to live action it *changes* and sometimes *destroys* the original intention of the story. Animation is a beautiful art form and it allows for cinematography that is impossible to achieve through live action.
gege akutami and alan ituriel: villanous and jujutsu kaisen all countrys: fast and furios 9, turning red, uncharted, black widow and the eternals japan and mexico are GOD
Being an Illustrator myself I’ve been wondering how people do not respect animation unless it’s Disney or Pixar. I’ve had people tell me Attack on Titan is basic 💀 The topics you cover on this channel and your take on stuff is always hilarious yet insightful. Especially this one. Didn’t want this video to end! Thanks for doing this x
They probably think its basic because of Season 1. I will admit that season 1 has a lot of generic elements, and it's the weakest season in aot but the story is set up really well and we wouldn't be enjoying seasons 3 and 4 that much if season 1 didn't set them up properly.
This man is single handedly improving the taste of a generation. Every time a video drops I am either introduced to something new and awesome, or given a fresh perspective. Its a CLASSIC EVERYTIME
I really recommend watching The Amazing World of Gumball because from the outside it looks like a stupid kids show but when you watch it you realize how much effort was put into it and how it is also quiet enjoyable for all ages
Fun fact: A 2D animated movie that is 1 hour long and was animated in 24 fps has 86,400 different frames, which means the animators of that movie would have drew 86,400 pictures.
It depends. Animation can be drawn on twos or on three's. Which means that there is a different image per 2 or 3 frames. Western animation tends to be on twos, while anime shows tend to be on threes. So the number of drawings would be divided by 2 for the number of frames.
The Prince of Egypt is legit one of the best films ever made, animated or not. Beautiful visuals on top of a powerful story, great characters and music that goes way too hard. Great to see more people give that film some love, keep it up Nathan!
It's a beautiful movie, although it isn't very canonically accurate to the Bible itself. For example, Moses is being portrayed as a 30yo in the movie while he was actually 80, Aaron is being portrayed as unsupportive while he actually helped and spoke for Moses in front of Pharaoh because he had a stutter, as well as a bunch of other things. I get it though. It wouldn't really make for an interesting story if the movie was canonically strict
one of my college professors worked for dreamworks animation at the time and did the backgrounds from the opening scene. he showed us one of the cels he took with him when he left. its awesom
As an animator it is so refreshing seeing everyone slowly notice how powerful this art form is. We're in a paradigm shift in animation and I can't wait to be a part of it and share it with the world. Thanks for helping put some respect on us, it means the world. (Also another instant classic LETS GO)
Gotta thank the anime fans for that. Thanks to them for loving the mature themes in anime and the medium of anime getting more popular that western studios are starting to notice and try replicating it.
Arcane was one of THE most beautifully made shows I have ever seen, but it doesn’t get NEARLY the hype it deserves. It literally took the studio 6 years to make 1 season
Give it a few seasons, I'm hoping it'll steadily build hype like Game of Thrones did. (But I also hope it doesn't blow out in the end like Game of Thrones did.)
So true about the lack of 2D animated stuff since Princess and the Frog. For the most part I prefer the look of 2D over 3D animation, the colours just feel more rich, the paintings for backgrounds are just stunning, it's such a beautiful art form. 3D can look really good but sometimes it feels really... clinical? Sterile? Corporate? It feels almost too clean, too detailed sometimes.
It’s like there was a campaign after _Toy Story_ and *_especially_*_ Shrek_ to phase 2D out. The burnout from the perceived Disney Renaissance formula also didn’t help. The killing blow? The decision to release 2011’s _Winnie the Pooh_ the same weekend as _Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Part II._
Which is why I think Arcane and Spiderverse really went with a great balance, 3D models with 2D details gives it such a unique look that makes it standout more.
@@icecreamhero2375 I should clarify, I think 3D can be gorgeous, and certainly the artists are extremely talented and skilled, its just a preference for 2D
Akira was the first film that showed me a glimpse of animation's true potential. I still remember the uproar over Princess Mononoke being released in theatres here. In spite of the ratings people kept bringing small children to watch it because "it's animation so it must be for kids!" They actually got it pulled from one of our local cinemas for being inappropriate for children. That was my first true realization of how little respect animation gets. I'm still livid about that.
@@rafaelraval265 Not sure about other areas, but here in Lancaster, PA they ended up pulling it from one cinema after multiple complaints. While progressive in many ways, there are still a ton of deep conservative elements around here.
@@gelbadayah.sneach579 iam actually quite sad that they pulled it from the theater princess mononoke is one of my favorite ghibli film next to laputa castle in the sky and spirited away.
@@rafaelraval265 Miyazaki is such an amazing artist. I love his works that place fantastical elements into the modern world, just outside of our limited view. I also love his origonal settings. The way he designs things is so distinctively his own style, yet never feels repetitive throughout his various works.
I feel like Castlevania has gone relatively unnoticed for this reason even though it was one of the best Western adult animated shows to have come out in the last few years, and it feels so appropriate that it is animated because there's so much they capture in the artwork with the magical aspects that can't be captured in live action. And the best part is that the writers make the audience sympathize with the "villains" of the story in an unconventional way
My dad was friends with an animator for Prince of Egypt. I think he did the splitting the sea scene and I will always remember when my dad told me the guy got fired after the film since Dreamworks switched to digital-only. I hope more studios realize how powerful animation can be in the coming years. Great video!
It’s not a movie, but I was able to get my father, best friend, and girlfriend to watch Attack on Titan and agree that it’s one of the best things they’ve ever watched and they don’t watch anime. Hit the nail on the head when you said basically something about how these pieces of art can have amazing stories and set pieces, but then people get turned away when they realize it’s animation
you said it best: "weirder is better". animation is at its peak when it doesn't try to mimic reality but instead express something beyond it, something that maybe we all felt but never saw. for example the reason bojack connected with so many people isnt because its the most perfect and realistic rendition of an alcohol addict but because it had the freedom to transcend beyond what reality can visually project into our eyes physically by exploring the philosophical and psychological aspect of where these emotions are coming from in a form of a cartoon horse that is so perfectly simple it shuts off the part in our brains thats responsible for thinking "is this a real person?" (because its so obviously not) and makes way for us to meet with the full unfiltered ramifications of alcohol addiction that feel so real that even without noticing, only animation can make us all collectively yet subconsciously go "what if im this person?" and that is so powerful most people aren't ready for that so they'll just keep dismissing it like "a show about a talking horse? lol get out of here you brony weirdo" and thats when i ask myself, does *everyone* even deserve to enjoy this medium?
It’s funny how they are going to call it a “live-action” Avatar the Last Airbender because if they want to achieve the level of effects, choreography, magic, animation, and filmmaking that the original show had, then that means 95% of the remake is going to have to be CGI. You can’t achieve that level of greatness without animation. So it’s actually all animated, just made to look live-action Also, if you want an American animated tv show that adults can watch just as much as kids, watch Infinity Train on HBOMax!!! Everyone I’ve showed it too always says to me, “wait, this is a kids show!?!?!!?” (spoiler alert, it’s really not 😉)
i mean, animation is an art and its true, it defends for itself. but, there is always that feeling or desire of seeing your cartoons and their world come to life, and thats what live-action movies/series do. its like comics, as comics they are good, as animated series they are better, as live-action movies even better. the thing is they have to do it right, because it can work and be amazing but only if thats the goal of doing it and not just to make money
Even animation ‘for kids’ can have a lot of value for adults. Netflix’s ‘Hilda’ is my all time favorite show and it just makes me so happy to watch it every time. It’s got this magical quality that I don’t think could be captured in live action no matter how much money you through into it
Oh I watched the series and can totally agree, it's such a wholesome and entertaining bit of animation. My mum gave me a bit of clout though, since I was 'too old' for it, lmao.
As a voice actor I can’t tell you how many times ppl have asked me if I’ll ever do more “real acting” aka live action. Lol animation really gets NO LOVE but is so satisfying as an acting job and 10x more creative
@@Khayafraites you get to play anything when your actually acting as well and when you're on screen you're more present in the situation while you have to be more imaginative when voicing acting....I think you might be a bit biased when it comes to this but let me ask you something, would you rather be a supporting character in an Oscar nominated movie or a lead in a best animated movie.
@@layton6202 as someone who does both film & voice acting it takes just as much energy to do both and I am just as present in both and would love the opportunity to do either because they are just as challenging and just as rewarding.
@@Khayafraitesyou think voice acting will take more energy than an action movie set I think if you consider all possibilities live action will end with more accolades, but to my previous question which one of the two would you choose if you had the opportunity to do one of them
Hey, same thing with video games even. Ppl need to stop disrespecting these forms of entertainment AND art. There are so many amazing world's, characters, and unique artistic visions in video games/animated things. Like the older gen or old close minded critics can never appreciate or understand this *art* form.
Something I don’t think a lot of adults consider when watching animated films is that it doesn’t have to be R rated, blood infested, orgy making movies. Honestly, it can be deeper and more meaningful as a PG film. And it can still have what you are looking for. I think of Fantastic Mr. Fox, which is such a clever film. It’s only PG, but man is a fresh take.
Animated moves feel like home to me. Growing up on Disney, Pixar and Dreamworks, to then discover Sony’s better films (spiderverse, Mitchells vs.) and now getting into Ghibli as an adult. It is the only film media that makes imagination come alive, and usually backs up the story with an INSANE score. Prince of Egypt is one of the best musicals and movies ever. It depicts a biblical story with such grace, finesse and compassion that it honestly feel unreal.
In 1996, Disney's "Hunchback of the Notre Dame" already did the same thing, something that is especially noticeable in the scene where Quasi-Modo descends the belltower with a rope, during the climax of the film. These movies show how you can mix both types of visuals and achieve something truly stunning. Prince of Egypt did it too with the parting of the sea and it looked gorgeous.
I can say with confidence that I've watched more animated content than live action. Live action just doesn't hit it for me. Animation can be so expressive and tell stories that you couldn't with live action. It's just easy to get immersed in animated worlds, and I love it. Animation is limitless.
Right?? Satoshi kon made all his movies animated because he knew live action couldn't capture the timing and feeling he wanted, and I'm so glad he focused on animation rather than live action like most directors of adult stories move into
And it's not like every live action actor is automatically a good actor either. I've seen actors who are less expressive than even the most average cartoons. The problem isn't that animation is underrated, it's that live action is overrated. Who would watch such brilliance as the shows mentioned and think "this would be great in live action"?
I hate how the majority of people still view animation as something only children watch. I always feel a little guilty and ashamed when my roommates walk by and see me sitting during a Pixar movie, when 'adult' media - especially in animation - is characterized by aggressively juvenile elements like near-constant cursing or poorly-executed sex jokes nonstop.
if there's another show i can recommend it's avatar: the last airbender (and maybe the legend of korra, which is the sequel), that show was ahead of its time imo
animation is so underrated. The fact that people prefer live action over animation just proves people think animation is for kids and that they only care about what actors are playing.
I’m glad it’s starting to get the recognition it deserves. Growing up with stuff like Studio Ghibli, Kung Fu Panda, How To Train Your Dragon, Avatar, Naruto and so many more literally molded me into who I am today. The worlds, the characters, the stories, the philosophies, the beauty in the animation, it was all so good. Real ones know that growing up we used to get bullied for watching anime, now it’s common and I love it.
The HTTYD trilogy animation was BEAUTIFUL. The hair, eyes, dragon scales mountains, waters.... everything blew me away! When I was younger, I started to notice how much more money was put into movie animations, then series animations. I noticed how the How to train Your dragon series animations looked different from the movies. That's when I learned that a lot of love and money is put into making these movies. That's when I learned that I could appreciate animation as a whole. All three of those movies were amazing and have my respect at every part I cried.
Also Anime. Alot of normies only see the voices as annoying and the perverted content in it. But it is literally so much more than that!! The animation,voice ACTING, expressions. emotions.the themes! It could go from a small slice of life, to a full out horror , only based on ratings. We are talking action, adventure, friendship ,horror, slice of Life, Sci fi, thriller romance! It's all breath taking. And not all of it is just one genre or one age group! There's anime for little kids to elders! Animation is not just for children and the Oscars were wrong! I'm talking Tokyo Ghoul,Bungo stray dogs,Demon slayer, attack on Titan! Jujutsu Kaisen! (That's mostly action and mature) My Hero academia, Haikyuu, One piece! Fullmetal alchemist! (Teen animes) The disastrous life of Saiki k! (Also teen but a super hilarious comedy and underrated) Even Pokemon and Beyblade! And those are for smaller children! I enjoy them all! And studio ghibli's underrated as heck! My first studio Ghibli movie was Howl's moving Castle. I then from there watched Ponyo, Spirited away,The Cat Returns, My neighbor Totoro and Porco Rosso. There was something in each of those for me to enjoy. Even if they weren't my favorite movie they still stuck with me. I wouldn't have it any other way.
@@RelicQuadrangle im 11 and i watch aot lol why did you say you have to be matured to understand it liek the setting is dark and the story is a bit complicated but if you just think a lil more about it you will understand the masterpiece story
@@sycte949 because that's the rating it was given? The respected rating because some children your age might not be able to handle stuff like that. I'm not saying you can't. Also it's "Like"
I really love that Love, Death, and Robots took all sorts of formats for their stories. There’s such an emphasis on 2D and 3D animation, that it makes the stories pop out more. At least in my mind, that is.
The tale of princess kaguya is the most beautiful creation I’ve ever seen. And the music takes me to specific scenes when listened to outside the movie. Please watch.
I know the Turning Red hype is still ongoing but this video made me realize just another aspect of why I love it so much?? As a Chinese-Canadian girl that grew up in Toronto I already felt super SEEN by the movie, but the animation style also helped transport the audience back to the *feeling* of 2000s Toronto that live action wouldn't have been able to do. Instead of a Scott Pilgrim-esque grimy 2010s Toronto (which to be fair, wasn't 100% live action), the animation in Turning Red made my city look SO beautiful and magical!! (idk if that's a take on how Canada is a mystical fantasy place in media, but that's a topic for another day)
A lot of “film & television critics” won’t admit that animators are able to tell a deep story with good visuals and character development better than your average live action film. ☕️
Recently got a job in animation and mentioned this in my interview. Animation doesn’t get enough respect. There are stories that work best or only work in animation. It is a medium of limitless potential but it’s often so easy to brush off because “cartoons are for kids”
love these videos man, this one in particular, such an insightful video, plus i can tell how passionate you are about your feelings with animation and your sense of humor makes these videos so much better lol
I remember seeing that movie when I was a kid at a friend's house and was always wondering what it was but then I saw it on Netflix about a year ago and rewatched it. I liked it a lot more this time round cos I remember it making me feel so sad because of the amount of deaths in that movie but it's fire, and kind underrated
Animation is an insanely powerful medium and it needs to be appreciated the way it deserves. And it shouldn't be a hot take, but 90% of stories are better told in animation than in live action
as an animator, thank you for making this video ♥️ it’s the reason why a writer for live action will get paid more than writing for animation even if it’s the same workload, and the animation industry as a whole does not get paid enough and is often overworked, and overlooked, even though this industry has been CARRYING the entertainment industry through the entirety of the pandemic.. animators and artists never stopped working!! and it’s dumb to prefer live action over an animated movie.. like majority of that marvel movie you watched is vfx stuff so that’s animated too 😭😭
ATLA and Korra will always be closest to my heart. Turning Red, Soul, Mulan, Spiderverse, Kimi No Nawa are some of my favorite movies too. Oh and Arcane was just incredible. Thank you Nathan, this was a fantastic video
My mom will watch literally anything as long as it’s not animated. Cinderella 2021 was enough for a watch but Encanto, Mitchell’s and the Machines, Luca all not worth watching because they’re animated.
That’s really cool tbh. Most people I’m surrounded also don’t mind animation but there really are a lot of people that don’t want anything to do with animation and automatically assume it to be for kids. Still enrages me every time I meet someone like that 😅 It’s like saying you don’t like any music.
Coraline is legit one of my favorite movies of all time. not even just animated. i don't even think the movie would hit the same if it had been live action. i think people really underestimate just how much animation can be used to immerse audiences in new worlds and plots.
Coraline is 100% the greatest movie of all time imo. Ever since I saw it 10 years ago, I just can’t stop thinking about it. The thing about using imagery to tell a story is that, through those images that story becomes seared into your brain. When I finish watching a film, I can’t really remember much about it. Characters names leave my brain, as well as most of the plot. But Coraline’s use of imagery I think about it everyday. I’m not even being hyperbolic. Only other film that makes me feel similarly is Edward Scissorhands.
thiiiiis. i'm an animator but even just as a fan of the medium it always bothers me when people dismiss animation as 'just for kids'. the level of talent and work that goes into these films and shows deserves so much respect as an art form.
one of the sadder parts of animated movies getting more attention is that amazing voice actors are getting replaces with voices from generic action movie stars who don't know how to do it properly. don't get me wrong, some actors can do both but voice acting is such a different skill compared to regular acting. but of course, it has always been true that slapping a famous actor on the cover of a movie increases your sale exponentially.
God I love how you brought up Your Name here, it’s genuinely beautiful and the only way a live action remake could ever live up to it is by being as equal of a masterpiece and have a genuinely resonant romance so big and iconic that it gets referenced as much as Titanic. That’s the only way I can see it work.
I’m really sad that Disney shut down Blue Sky Studios and cancelled all of their projects, especially Nimona after hearing everything about it and what its animation would look like.
not only is this already a classic, but it's also VERY timely. kudos for making this video when there's the whole situation with new deal for animation going on. not only are animators (and voice actors, sometimes) basically invisible, and not only is animation just disregarded and considered "less serious" in general, but it's reflected in how they're paid! it's awful, and you're 100000% right about the freedom and specific artistic style of animation. it's AMAZING. and even the stuff that's "for kids" is often still enjoyable for adults, or has serious themes that are valuable. arcane and the legend of vox machina have been great. also this video is filled with awesome recs--AND thank you for the reminder about the movie 9! i only ever saw it once but holy shit it was wild. i feel like i might get it and appreciate it more now that i'm older.
As an animator in the industry, to do something like into the spiderverse or arcane are huge goals of mine. And its good to hear people appreciate and understand animation when a lot of people dont give it a chance. Its the best! The possibilities are endless!
I completely agree when you said you’re sick of seeing the same concepts over and over. I think anime has so much to offer! And like you said, your name was such a unique and interesting concept, as well as being incredibly and beautifully animated! I’m holding out a fraction of hope that Netflix won’t butcher avatar the last air bender, but I also agree that the fight scenes and the anime-esque facial expression that make it funny just won’t be able to be translated into a live action.
You should definitely watch the movie "I Lost My Body" on Netflix. Hands down it is one of the best animated movies out there, and its one of the few animated movies that isn't aimed towards children. It's about a hand who gets severed from its body and crawls all across Paris to get back to it's owner- its such a fresh take on storytelling and animation in general. Deffo check it out.
I loved that movie and i feel that more people should talk about it. As someone who considers ghibli to be the peak of animated movies personally, I Lost My Body (which is not a ghibli film and not even in the same style, i want to clarify) feels like it could sit among them in terms of quality, perhaps even be better than some of them.
@@hellothepixel1107 One hundred percent. Everything about that movie from the score (that soundtrack goes so hard icl) to the animation is just top of the league. It really feels like an animated movie crafted with a live action lens, as all the techniques and craftsmanship you would expect from a live action movie is there in animation. Personally, my favourite scene is the one where Naoufel (hope im spelling that right) is delivering the pizza and talks to the girl on the intercom. The dialogue, the vibes, the cinematography: all of it just makes this perfect scene which is just so cozy to watch. Man, i could talk about this movie for hours.
as an animator its always so nice and surprising to see videos like this and im always so weirdly shocked when someone outside of the animation industry appreciates the art. I think a lot of us working in the field feel like most people don't care about animation and what we do. It can be a bit sad sometimes since its such a tough process. Finishing production on a short film feels like a miracle, and don't get me started on feature films, I have no idea how people pull this off, it must be close to impossible. The amount of work that goes into making animation is INSANE, requires tons of people that most of the time have been training to be artists since they were children. It can be pretty depressing when nobody wants to watch your work simply because they think the medium is for kids. And the less people watch animation the less likely it is that adult/experimental animation will get funding. So those films dont get made unfortunately. There are plenty of people with vision and ideas but not a lot of people that are willing to take the risk to fund those films. So yeah, thanks for making this video. And yall should go watch Flee, it's an absolute travesty that it lost the Oscar
Arcane was INSANE!!!! I literally had to pause to admire some of the shots!! Also one animation that in my opinion is really underrated is Kipo on Netflix. Seriously is SO good? And the music in it is insane also very good representation!!!
I’m watching it with my bf and I literally feel so giddy at the start of each episode. It’s been FOREVER since a show or a movie has made me feel that way.
Perfect Blue is legit the movie that takes my favorites. The way Satoshi Kon created an animation that feels real and at the same time not is already amazing enough. But the way he gave you a mind-fuck throughout is so amazing. Likewise, the fact that he predicted the weird yet very toxic side of the idol culture amazes me until this day.
i believe Sony Pictures Animation (same studio that made Spiderverse) is making their first R-rated animated movie, so I think we’re seeing more of a push for adult-animated content over here.. another adult animated show I’d recommend is Love Death + Robots, it’s an anthology series kind of like Black Mirror but they’re animated shorts, they experiment with a lot of different styles like both 3D and 2D
I'm a Spanish viewer and when I see your videos on my feed it makes me immensely happy. I just love the topics you choose to talk about (especially the ones related to music), the humor, and how you develop everything. Thanks for uploading this! already a classic
"The Wind Rises" By Studio Ghibli is the best animated film I've ever seen, and the best film period I've ever seen. It as with several of animated films truly changed my life forever in an indescribable yet beautiful way.
The work put into making Kubo is absolutely insane to me. I did a little animation for my art project last year and I gained even more respect for animators!
Spielberg was definitely inspired by anime for his adaptation of West Side Story, the colours, cinematography, camera movements, action-peaked dance sequences, it looked way too Cool. No pun intended.
People will talk about how "animation is for kids" but seem to ignore a few things like how every single one of us used to be children at some point, or how much of the stuff we watched as kids wasn't just animated, but it was something that could take the time to teach and tell us something that would be a part of our everyday lives. One of my favorite animated movies to this day is Wolf Children, a film about a mother raising children that are half human and half wolf, which honestly in my opinion has one of the best messages about finding your calling in life. Yeah, animation isn't live action, but that in no way changes what it has to offer.
I was in the mood to do a video about animation, especially growing up watching so many different things, and you beat me to the punch! I think people really don’t ever care about animation anymore nowadays because they still think they’re cartoons like you stated or childish, I WILL NEVER FORGET 9! That film scarred me as a child, thanks for making me feel like I wasn’t crazy for having the same thoughts. Hope you’ve been well my guy!
I'm glad somebody said it. It's ridiculous how little respect animation gets here, considering the amount of effort and visual mastery present in animation.
This is especially poignant after they made fun of animation while presenting the award for it last night at the Oscars. So glad to hear someone talk about it, man!
Damn, as a student in 2d animation it’s cool to see you talk about it with so much love… I 100% agree with everything you say and it’s a shame so much people still think of animation as something exclusively for kids. The most impactful movies I’ve ever seen were all animation. Really great video, hope the algorithm thinks the same and it’ll help you reach a lot of ppl (Sorry for the English I’m french)
As a 2d animation student, I am SO happy you talked about this. I have been a subscriber of this channel for months now and you always deliver on your videos 💞💞
Facts on facts. I remember telling my dad off when he tried me about still watching animation at 21, now I'm headed to 30 and stay watching my animated shows and movies, and he no longer gives me shit about it lol Animation is art. Period.
avatar the last airbender is still the greatest animated piece of work i've seen. i can't see myself not watching it because of the children aspect of it because the story, visuals, characters, and meaning are so captivating. it seemed like everything made sense and it felt like i was on a journey with the characters. The finale was amazing and arguably the greatest finale in animation.
i mention often, but i'm still blown away about your ability to just talk so smoothly through your videos while seemingly effortlesly telling the story you want! i love your videos and the topics you chose!
The soundtracks to these movies are always so much better too. From Giacchino to Ghibli they all seem to have stupendously good music to go alongside them. Adds to the movie so much, especially for a movie like From Up On Poppy Hill, where the plot and characters arent the strongest, but the soundtrack and visuals carry it.
Animation has always been my favourite medium for story telling!! I find that it brings out the beauty of the human experience so vividly, even in typical/mundane situations! The capacity for aesthetics is just so strong. Though I hate the idea that adult animation is tied to violence. Some of my most favourite animated stories are slice of life, like Barakamon. This show is so timeless and heartfelt. I don’t think the same feelings would have been captured in a live action. Edit: also I’ve never been able to forget the Eris, Goddess is Discord from Sinbad. Her hair is magnificent!
Laika makes some of my favourite movies (Kubo and the Two Strings being one of my favourite movies of all time) and yet they get no hype. It's really devastating because they're visually stunning, the stories are incredible, and YEARS of hard work and dedication go into making them for little profit.
I literally spent an entire year of highschool animating in my free time and all I had to show for it at the end was less than 15 mins of clips. It’s more than just an art it’s a whole ass craft if people knew what went into it they wouldn’t dismiss it’s.
Forget live-action remakes. I’m tryna see animated remakes. Imagine a claymation Planet of the Apes movie, or a swashbuckling Pirates of the Caribbean in the style of Moana.
We have the power as humans to create a reality that's improved and that's influenced by our own sense of creation and artistry. It's like the ultimate form of cinema and it gathers every art you could think of together. Animation is the ultimate form of art, and it's a shame it's not being exploited more for adult content
I've once seen a video about how Animation has been separated from movies etc. and categorized as this other genre somehow reserved to "kids", and it has touched me profoundly. Animation, in reality, is more of an cinematography choice rather than a genre. Just like a movie can be shot in B&W or in colours, Digital or 35mm, filmmakers can choose to do a movie in animation or in "real life", despite of their choice, it is still a movie. The Academy, back in the day, separated "colored films" from "b&w films" in different categories, just like "best motion picture" and "best animated picture" are separated. However, they understood that both B&W/coloured films are equally motion pictures despite their cinematography/art choice. The tone of the narrative, the topics, the script it is what defines its genre. Genres should be horror, comedy, romantic, etc. ANIMATION, therefore, should not be considered a genre, but rather an artistic choice of a production. Just as serious as any other film, not limited to kids, that can portray any story and any genre.
You checked every point I'd make on my list, down to the lack of sauce in the live action "I just can't wait to be king" sequence. It really comes down to the lack of value people place on creatives, despite having the privilege to indulge on timeless gems. Didn't expect to see Killer Bean here though. Lol
Animation also has the greatest potential for visual narratives IMO, the "show, don't tell" method, coz you're only limited by your imagination (& budget) with how you'll express an idea or create a vibe. In _Kimi no Nawa_ (Your Name) that short animation when the girl took a photo of the cake with her phone is one of my fave little animated sequences, along with some beautiful scenes. _A Silent Voice_ didn't strike me as much the first watch (partly coz of some confusing scenes in the beginning), but Kyoto Animation more than any other anime studio makes a lot of use of the actual character animation to tell their stories or describe their characters, and I also watched the movie with my aunt who didn't understand the spoken or subtitle language but she understood the story just from the visuals. A lot of anime series unfortunately do the opposite and have to say a lot of obvious stuff while the visual is just a facial close-up.
YESSS to the love and respect for Emperor’s New Groove and the straight fire Ratatouille soundtrack. I think the most beautiful animated film I’ve ever seen is The Aristocats. Which sounds like a joke but the hand-drawn animation is insane!!! It was made in the seventies before the huge Disney blockbusters that followed, and the colors, the scenery, everything is stunning. It’s set in Paris, so it’s basically a hand-drawn Ratatouille. The OG 101 Dalmatians is up there too
We dont appreciate this man enough. He really hand drew every frame of this video just to make another classic.
What. No he didn’t
@@SuperMarioInRealLife uh… yeah he did
@@SuperMarioInRealLife yea he did dude…..
@@SuperMarioInRealLife r/wooosh
"another classic"
"nobody really cares about stop-motion" the world feels stacked against us ngl 😔
Damn man😂😂
Sorry
Stop motion has an undefeated catalog tho can't name to many bad stop motion movies.
put it on Netflix, and maybe one day i'll try it
@@jensenraylight8011 there has definitely been stop motion on Netflix
yeah watch Opal
Arcane was a goddamn top tier show but i know it isnt even going to be nominated for best TV show for Emmys because its animated....some people just dont appreciate art
I wouldn't be too sure about that actually. It's getting a TV screening for the Emmy's with the creators and some of the voice actors. It also dominated the Annie Awards. It's most likely winning "outstanding animated show" at the Emmy's.
yeah remember when Boss Baby beat Your Name at the Oscars...that was the most disrespectful thing I've ever seen
That's why we have the Annie awards, of which Arcane made history by getting the most simultaneous awards for a TV show- Futurama got 9 awards over it's full run... Arcane managed 9 in one go.
@@ReverieMotionCanned The Annie Awards is trillion times better than the Oscars.
@@kitana5583 i wll say that that show was a complete shit and giggle movie since the creator of the manga did that to show the stupidity of love. but it certainly was more interesting than Boss Baby.
“A Silent Voice” is one of the most stunning movies I’ve seen. Yes the story would have worked as a live action but anyone who’s seen it would agree that the melancholy, hopeful, devastating feeling that movie creates would be completely lost if the animation was gone. It’s gorgeous and that story of redemption would not have been as hard hitting in live action.
Yes yes yes, I love that movie. Its really good
i think we should see more slice of life animation in western media. in anime they have this kind of stories. like, sometimes i don't need to watch an animated movie with constant jokes and obnoxious celebrity voice acting. sometimes i just need to watch an animated movie about people living their life and learning. and i think that's a missed opportunity because animation is an amazing art form. you can tell stories with not just characters talking but also animation style and cinematography. (and i agree with everything you said)
Yes one of the best movies ever made it’s so beautiful it wouldn’t be the same in live action
Agreed, I think it was a masterpiece
Yeah it wouldn't feel the same in live action, that movie was BEAUTIFUL
Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium just the same as any other drama, action, comedy, and more. Animation isn't for children, at least most, since adults can enjoy them too, and they don't make you less of an adult.
Animation is a wonderful medium that can be for everyone. Animation is art. Period.
I just wish se of these adults see that as well. I'm glad it's grown to where it is not but i hope it continues the journey.
@@lizzyrank5405 ye its hard, i got my dad to watch demon slayer and he liked it, but I could tell he just didn't care for the animation and didn't give it a chance, or to put it another way because it was animation he didn't take it "seriously" as he would a movie so he wasn't as "invested" if that makes sense (well that and he was tired at the time of watching, he's usually busy and almost never watches shows, only movies)
Just because some animated movies and shows have the G or PG rating on it, that does not mean it won’t be mature
Castlevania was also a HUGE step forward for Western adult-oriented animation. The animation is very heavily anime influenced with a killer story and brought to life a whole new world. Highly recommend.
Man i loved hector and issac arcs
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 They handle Issac so well usually when a character is changed it rarely offers anything interesting, but Isaac he had a different point of view and soo much nuance
Oh man Castlevania was amazing, incredible storytelling and animation that really captures the emotion and spirit of the show. So good!
It actually feels more like one of those dc movies
Because it was Koreans that did the animation not americans
Nathan woke up and chose to speak facts.
Hello I like your videos
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He does that a lot nowadays
People during the late 2000s and early 2010s: people who animate stuff must have no life whatsoever 😒
People during the mid and late 2010s: animators deserve more respect than live action
@@uria3679 Bruh, people who animate still have no life whatsoever. Do you realize how much fucking time it takes to animate even like 3 frames? Ages man, ages
“When you’re a kid, nothing touches animation.”
I’m 22 and this is still true
No truer words my friend ...
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Literally, I’ve always loved animation it’s amazing
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Yeah same. I'm looking forward to watching Bad Guys.
people look at me weird when i tell them ratatouille is one of my favorite movies of all time. like, it’s not inappropriate in anyway for children but the movie itself like…don’t feel like it’s specifically made *for* children. it’s the feeling of a piece of art, a story that creative people are invested in telling us, it hits all the notes and more BECAUSE it’s animated.
If you haven't already done so, check out Schaffrillas Production's Why Ratatouille Is A Cinematic Masterpiece, it was *so* great!
@@medealkemy Yeah, that video was super good.
Oh the irony, the Children movie that has no child in it. Remy itself is an adult rat.
That's what I used to love as a kid as well. Since I did not like movies that had the story dumbed down for kids with inuendos for the parents to endure.
The Incredibles and Ratatouille are movies that are more meant for Adults, while also being enjoyable for kids.
I AM SO HAPPY YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS. As an artist, shows like Arcane were absolutely astounding, and that paired with plot and pacing made it a 10/10 for me. However, a shill of the show was so difficult because it was 'for kids.' just respect quality shows, animated or not!
U know who else's vids are entertaining? Mine. Hundred percent you'll die from laugher. If not Yous can come to tell me bro
A lot of people really didn’t like arcane (even though they didn’t watch it) due to it being part of league of legends, not because it was appealing to children. It was the biggest turn off
Arcane is not for kids. "Kid Cosmic" is for kids.
@@rockon8174 Exactly. It contains a lot of mature story elements, but people saw ads for an animated fantasy show and assumed it was for children.
Arcane isn't really for kids though, I found it harder to get people into it because they thought you had to play League of Legends to get what was going on
Dude, Prince of Egypt was and still is my JAM. "The Plagues" is still unrivaled in the history of cinema, change my mind.
Facts!
Big facts
Facts
Thus sayeth the lord
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer amen.
Amazing how this got recommended to me after the disrespect that animation got from the Oscars, where they basically said ''Animation is the thing that kids love, and us adults have to endure.''
Great video, by the way.
Excuse me, where did you get your profile pic?
@@midnighthijinks7387 ohh man, I wish I could tell you a clear answer, but I found this picture in Equestria Daily around 2011-2012, I think? I've used it as my profile picture ever since.
Sadly, I don't know the artist's name.
Meanwhile Flea was nominated which is probably not the most kid friendly and/or fun. The disrespect
They actually said that? Well screw them then
Do people still care about the Oscars?
The youtube algorithm clearly doesn’t respect this man nearly enough ALREADY A CLASIC
U know who else's vids are entertaining? Mine. Hundred percent you'll die from laugher. If not Yous can come to tell me dawg
@@realfarmer21 who cares
Algo sucks
@26 Mic man yo wack ass just askin to be snitch'd 😂
Ikr, a day late here
I’m so tired of the obsession with live action, and in particular live action remakes. Animation inherently defines the story, and thus when something gets translated from animated to live action it *changes* and sometimes *destroys* the original intention of the story. Animation is a beautiful art form and it allows for cinematography that is impossible to achieve through live action.
it also feels really disrespectful to the original animation, they make it seem like we should be grateful they're making it live action. Like, no.
Just look at live action Cowboy Bebop….
@@MetalGildarts That was torture.
gege akutami and alan ituriel: villanous and jujutsu kaisen
all countrys: fast and furios 9, turning red, uncharted, black widow and the eternals
japan and mexico are GOD
And on top of that, live action needs a ton of CGI anyway, why not make it 3d animated at that point which allows for better stylization?
Being an Illustrator myself I’ve been wondering how people do not respect animation unless it’s Disney or Pixar. I’ve had people tell me Attack on Titan is basic 💀 The topics you cover on this channel and your take on stuff is always hilarious yet insightful. Especially this one. Didn’t want this video to end! Thanks for doing this x
How can you possibly think aot is basic wth💀
@@slycooper2bandofthieves116 right? 💀
What the actual fudge man. I hope you slapped them.
im slowly losing faith on humanity...
They probably think its basic because of Season 1. I will admit that season 1 has a lot of generic elements, and it's the weakest season in aot but the story is set up really well and we wouldn't be enjoying seasons 3 and 4 that much if season 1 didn't set them up properly.
This man is single handedly improving the taste of a generation. Every time a video drops I am either introduced to something new and awesome, or given a fresh perspective. Its a CLASSIC EVERYTIME
also fucking love how he breaks his videos down man liek I have such great respect for making me interested in the ending
@@layeng251 yep he knows how to talk to keep our attention, there are other youtubers who could talk about what he talks but not how he does it
I really recommend watching The Amazing World of Gumball because from the outside it looks like a stupid kids show but when you watch it you realize how much effort was put into it and how it is also quiet enjoyable for all ages
Gumball is honestly a masterpiece. The last great cartoon on cartoon network.
Other forgotten great shows are Flapjack and chowder
You know it’s good when they have a Breaking Bad reference in it. But it’s actually the funniest show I’ve seen in my generation.
i loved that show!!
The fact that gumball doesn't get talked about for what is essentially some of the best compositing ever is a crime against humanity
@@afrobuddy4801 i would say infinity train was the last great one ,its story driven so idk if u will like it or not but it's great
Fun fact: A 2D animated movie that is 1 hour long and was animated in 24 fps has 86,400 different frames, which means the animators of that movie would have drew 86,400 pictures.
Wow! That's a lot!
It depends. Animation can be drawn on twos or on three's. Which means that there is a different image per 2 or 3 frames. Western animation tends to be on twos, while anime shows tend to be on threes. So the number of drawings would be divided by 2 for the number of frames.
@@artorhen so if it were animated completely on twos, it’ll be 43,200 frames.
if it were animated on threes, it’ll be 28,800 frames.
@@artorhen still a lot
@@iasked9392 yes, it is.
The Prince of Egypt is legit one of the best films ever made, animated or not. Beautiful visuals on top of a powerful story, great characters and music that goes way too hard. Great to see more people give that film some love, keep it up Nathan!
Facts
It's a beautiful movie, although it isn't very canonically accurate to the Bible itself. For example, Moses is being portrayed as a 30yo in the movie while he was actually 80, Aaron is being portrayed as unsupportive while he actually helped and spoke for Moses in front of Pharaoh because he had a stutter, as well as a bunch of other things. I get it though. It wouldn't really make for an interesting story if the movie was canonically strict
one of my college professors worked for dreamworks animation at the time and did the backgrounds from the opening scene. he showed us one of the cels he took with him when he left. its awesom
@@YehudiNimol interesting facts, thanks for the insight!
@@EpiphanyDraws that opening was incredible! Did they work on other projects?
As an animator it is so refreshing seeing everyone slowly notice how powerful this art form is. We're in a paradigm shift in animation and I can't wait to be a part of it and share it with the world. Thanks for helping put some respect on us, it means the world. (Also another instant classic LETS GO)
same here dude
Amen bro... We gotta see you on the front end of that shift, continue to bless us with your work man. 👏🏽
Gotta thank the anime fans for that. Thanks to them for loving the mature themes in anime and the medium of anime getting more popular that western studios are starting to notice and try replicating it.
Even the DC animated universe with their mature like movies don't get as much love as they deserve.
Exactly!
even though they have better animated movies than live action ones 9 times out of 10 😔
The justice league animated show is everything DCEU will never be
@@wrestlinganime4life288 DCEU: "look we made our dull charaters in dark dusty shit-colored places, were so cool"
@@wrestlinganime4life288 Mega facts.
Arcane was one of THE most beautifully made shows I have ever seen, but it doesn’t get NEARLY the hype it deserves. It literally took the studio 6 years to make 1 season
Give it a few seasons, I'm hoping it'll steadily build hype like Game of Thrones did. (But I also hope it doesn't blow out in the end like Game of Thrones did.)
I thought Arcane got 10/10s near across the board?
@@hikkikimori true, but a lot of people still just see it as being good ‘for animation’ as if it’s not just a good show period.
@@jessip8654 I highly doubt it's ever going to be as big as game of thrones
I mean when it came out a barrage of YT Videos instantly got recommended to me about How that show is a masterpiece
So true about the lack of 2D animated stuff since Princess and the Frog. For the most part I prefer the look of 2D over 3D animation, the colours just feel more rich, the paintings for backgrounds are just stunning, it's such a beautiful art form. 3D can look really good but sometimes it feels really... clinical? Sterile? Corporate? It feels almost too clean, too detailed sometimes.
It’s like there was a campaign after _Toy Story_ and *_especially_*_ Shrek_ to phase 2D out. The burnout from the perceived Disney Renaissance formula also didn’t help.
The killing blow? The decision to release 2011’s _Winnie the Pooh_ the same weekend as _Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Part II._
@natalie's corner I quite like it to sometimes, i just think sometimes it can look a bit homogenous
Which is why I think Arcane and Spiderverse really went with a great balance, 3D models with 2D details gives it such a unique look that makes it standout more.
Nah 3D is incredible and I am never going to diss it the storyboards were all done in 2D. I still miss 2D though.
@@icecreamhero2375 I should clarify, I think 3D can be gorgeous, and certainly the artists are extremely talented and skilled, its just a preference for 2D
Akira was the first film that showed me a glimpse of animation's true potential. I still remember the uproar over Princess Mononoke being released in theatres here. In spite of the ratings people kept bringing small children to watch it because "it's animation so it must be for kids!" They actually got it pulled from one of our local cinemas for being inappropriate for children. That was my first true realization of how little respect animation gets. I'm still livid about that.
they got what they deserved
Wow really,when did they pulled it from the local theaters?
@@rafaelraval265 Not sure about other areas, but here in Lancaster, PA they ended up pulling it from one cinema after multiple complaints. While progressive in many ways, there are still a ton of deep conservative elements around here.
@@gelbadayah.sneach579 iam actually quite sad that they pulled it from the theater princess mononoke is one of my favorite ghibli film next to laputa castle in the sky and spirited away.
@@rafaelraval265 Miyazaki is such an amazing artist. I love his works that place fantastical elements into the modern world, just outside of our limited view. I also love his origonal settings. The way he designs things is so distinctively his own style, yet never feels repetitive throughout his various works.
I feel like Castlevania has gone relatively unnoticed for this reason even though it was one of the best Western adult animated shows to have come out in the last few years, and it feels so appropriate that it is animated because there's so much they capture in the artwork with the magical aspects that can't be captured in live action. And the best part is that the writers make the audience sympathize with the "villains" of the story in an unconventional way
Omg castlevania is one of the best animated shows ♡ (excluding anime)
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Yes! Isaac ended up being my favorite character
It's first 2 seasons were great but there was just something lost in the last 2, they were still good but just lost something after season 2s ending
didnt like season 4 plot but overall it was still great
My dad was friends with an animator for Prince of Egypt. I think he did the splitting the sea scene and I will always remember when my dad told me the guy got fired after the film since Dreamworks switched to digital-only. I hope more studios realize how powerful animation can be in the coming years. Great video!
WOW! underrated comment right here!
That splitting scene is literally the most amazing representation of that concept ever seen on film!
That’s brutal
Damn, but ummm… Dreamworks still only does animation…
@@lecherousfish The failure of Sinbad is what killed of Dreamworks interest in 2d films.
@@lecherousfish But not 2d animation
It’s not a movie, but I was able to get my father, best friend, and girlfriend to watch Attack on Titan and agree that it’s one of the best things they’ve ever watched and they don’t watch anime. Hit the nail on the head when you said basically something about how these pieces of art can have amazing stories and set pieces, but then people get turned away when they realize it’s animation
Attack on Titan is epic!
fr its peak fiction
Attack on Titan is a masterpiece fr, it was my first anime too and it took me a long time to enjoy other anime after AoT.
you said it best: "weirder is better". animation is at its peak when it doesn't try to mimic reality but instead express something beyond it, something that maybe we all felt but never saw. for example the reason bojack connected with so many people isnt because its the most perfect and realistic rendition of an alcohol addict but because it had the freedom to transcend beyond what reality can visually project into our eyes physically by exploring the philosophical and psychological aspect of where these emotions are coming from in a form of a cartoon horse that is so perfectly simple it shuts off the part in our brains thats responsible for thinking "is this a real person?" (because its so obviously not) and makes way for us to meet with the full unfiltered ramifications of alcohol addiction that feel so real that even without noticing, only animation can make us all collectively yet subconsciously go "what if im this person?" and that is so powerful most people aren't ready for that so they'll just keep dismissing it like "a show about a talking horse? lol get out of here you brony weirdo" and thats when i ask myself, does *everyone* even deserve to enjoy this medium?
Exactly!
It’s funny how they are going to call it a “live-action” Avatar the Last Airbender because if they want to achieve the level of effects, choreography, magic, animation, and filmmaking that the original show had, then that means 95% of the remake is going to have to be CGI. You can’t achieve that level of greatness without animation. So it’s actually all animated, just made to look live-action
Also, if you want an American animated tv show that adults can watch just as much as kids, watch Infinity Train on HBOMax!!! Everyone I’ve showed it too always says to me, “wait, this is a kids show!?!?!!?” (spoiler alert, it’s really not 😉)
and ironically enough, it still doesnt even come close to capturing the magic and awe of the actual show :/
i mean, animation is an art and its true, it defends for itself. but, there is always that feeling or desire of seeing your cartoons and their world come to life, and thats what live-action movies/series do. its like comics, as comics they are good, as animated series they are better, as live-action movies even better. the thing is they have to do it right, because it can work and be amazing but only if thats the goal of doing it and not just to make money
Also Bojack horseman! Straight up one of the wittiest, funniest, depressing yet entertaining shows ive seem lol
They already tried that, and I think we all know how it turned out.
@@mk3a lion king?
Even animation ‘for kids’ can have a lot of value for adults. Netflix’s ‘Hilda’ is my all time favorite show and it just makes me so happy to watch it every time. It’s got this magical quality that I don’t think could be captured in live action no matter how much money you through into it
Hilda is very good. Both the show and the movie.
Oh I watched the series and can totally agree, it's such a wholesome and entertaining bit of animation. My mum gave me a bit of clout though, since I was 'too old' for it, lmao.
I feel the same way about Hilda. That show needs way more love and support from audiences.
That was Owl House for me.
I loved the movie. My all time favourite is She-ra
As a voice actor I can’t tell you how many times ppl have asked me if I’ll ever do more “real acting” aka live action. Lol animation really gets NO LOVE but is so satisfying as an acting job and 10x more creative
you think voice acting is 10X more creative than actual acting
@@layton6202 voice acting is actual acting. But I do think it’s more creative than on screen acting because you get to play anything
@@Khayafraites you get to play anything when your actually acting as well and when you're on screen you're more present in the situation while you have to be more imaginative when voicing acting....I think you might be a bit biased when it comes to this but let me ask you something, would you rather be a supporting character in an Oscar nominated movie or a lead in a best animated movie.
@@layton6202 as someone who does both film & voice acting it takes just as much energy to do both and I am just as present in both and would love the opportunity to do either because they are just as challenging and just as rewarding.
@@Khayafraitesyou think voice acting will take more energy than an action movie set I think if you consider all possibilities live action will end with more accolades, but to my previous question which one of the two would you choose if you had the opportunity to do one of them
I love Animation. Some people need to stop looking at it as a lower form of art. Because it’s honestly amazing
Hey, same thing with video games even. Ppl need to stop disrespecting these forms of entertainment AND art. There are so many amazing world's, characters, and unique artistic visions in video games/animated things. Like the older gen or old close minded critics can never appreciate or understand this *art* form.
@@cyanprince00 I completely agree
Brad Bird was 100% correct when he said that animation isn't a genre, it's a medium.
Hell, the incredibles starts off with a fucking suicide attempt.
Something I don’t think a lot of adults consider when watching animated films is that it doesn’t have to be R rated, blood infested, orgy making movies. Honestly, it can be deeper and more meaningful as a PG film. And it can still have what you are looking for.
I think of Fantastic Mr. Fox, which is such a clever film. It’s only PG, but man is a fresh take.
Facts. I feel like nowadays, adult movies and shows(excluding south park) all end up being more immature than movies and shows for kids.
This man is the closest thing to cinema and nostalgia then the actual movies
U know who else's vids are entertaining? Mine. Hundred percent you'll die from laugher. If not Yous can come to tell me sweet
I legit get goosebumps and nostalgic watching the short clips of movies he put in these videos
Animated moves feel like home to me. Growing up on Disney, Pixar and Dreamworks, to then discover Sony’s better films (spiderverse, Mitchells vs.) and now getting into Ghibli as an adult. It is the only film media that makes imagination come alive, and usually backs up the story with an INSANE score. Prince of Egypt is one of the best musicals and movies ever. It depicts a biblical story with such grace, finesse and compassion that it honestly feel unreal.
Treasure Planet was really innovative, how they combined 2D animation with 3D visuals. Absolutely beautiful
I was actually stunned when i grew up and found out it was considered a bomb, i loved that movie
In 1996, Disney's "Hunchback of the Notre Dame" already did the same thing, something that is especially noticeable in the scene where Quasi-Modo descends the belltower with a rope, during the climax of the film.
These movies show how you can mix both types of visuals and achieve something truly stunning. Prince of Egypt did it too with the parting of the sea and it looked gorgeous.
I can say with confidence that I've watched more animated content than live action. Live action just doesn't hit it for me. Animation can be so expressive and tell stories that you couldn't with live action. It's just easy to get immersed in animated worlds, and I love it. Animation is limitless.
Same and as a child I would watch cartoons over sitcoms anyday and I still do
I am most definitely the same & I don't it will ever change tbh
Right?? Satoshi kon made all his movies animated because he knew live action couldn't capture the timing and feeling he wanted, and I'm so glad he focused on animation rather than live action like most directors of adult stories move into
And it's not like every live action actor is automatically a good actor either. I've seen actors who are less expressive than even the most average cartoons. The problem isn't that animation is underrated, it's that live action is overrated. Who would watch such brilliance as the shows mentioned and think "this would be great in live action"?
Omg! I thought i was the only one in this planet that watches more animated content than live-action! hahahaha Animation rocks! 😄👍
I hate how the majority of people still view animation as something only children watch. I always feel a little guilty and ashamed when my roommates walk by and see me sitting during a Pixar movie, when 'adult' media - especially in animation - is characterized by aggressively juvenile elements like near-constant cursing or poorly-executed sex jokes nonstop.
I've never really been too into animated shows, but I watched Arcane and it blew me away. It definitely gave me a new appreciation for animation.
Please watch Invincible. It’s also so incredible
if there's another show i can recommend it's avatar: the last airbender (and maybe the legend of korra, which is the sequel), that show was ahead of its time imo
watch attack on titan its animation is amazing but what makes it a masterpiece is its story also 3:45 that aeriel scene was from attack on titan
Prince of Egypt, Spirited Away, Your Name, Arcane, Into the Spider-verse. Nathan really said “taste. i have it, and you’re gonna hear about it.” 😌
animation is so underrated. The fact that people prefer live action over animation just proves people think animation is for kids and that they only care about what actors are playing.
Yeah, it's a super underreated medium.
I’m glad it’s starting to get the recognition it deserves. Growing up with stuff like Studio Ghibli, Kung Fu Panda, How To Train Your Dragon, Avatar, Naruto and so many more literally molded me into who I am today. The worlds, the characters, the stories, the philosophies, the beauty in the animation, it was all so good. Real ones know that growing up we used to get bullied for watching anime, now it’s common and I love it.
The HTTYD trilogy animation was BEAUTIFUL. The hair, eyes, dragon scales mountains, waters.... everything blew me away!
When I was younger, I started to notice how much more money was put into movie animations, then series animations. I noticed how the How to train Your dragon series animations looked different from the movies.
That's when I learned that a lot of love and money is put into making these movies. That's when I learned that I could appreciate animation as a whole. All three of those movies were amazing and have my respect at every part I cried.
Also Anime. Alot of normies only see the voices as annoying and the perverted content in it. But it is literally so much more than that!! The animation,voice ACTING, expressions. emotions.the themes! It could go from a small slice of life, to a full out horror , only based on ratings.
We are talking action, adventure, friendship ,horror, slice of Life, Sci fi, thriller romance!
It's all breath taking.
And not all of it is just one genre or one age group!
There's anime for little kids to elders! Animation is not just for children and the Oscars were wrong! I'm talking Tokyo Ghoul,Bungo stray dogs,Demon slayer, attack on Titan! Jujutsu Kaisen! (That's mostly action and mature)
My Hero academia, Haikyuu, One piece! Fullmetal alchemist!
(Teen animes)
The disastrous life of Saiki k!
(Also teen but a super hilarious comedy and underrated)
Even Pokemon and Beyblade!
And those are for smaller children! I enjoy them all!
And studio ghibli's underrated as heck! My first studio Ghibli movie was Howl's moving Castle. I then from there watched Ponyo, Spirited away,The Cat Returns, My neighbor Totoro and Porco Rosso. There was something in each of those for me to enjoy. Even if they weren't my favorite movie they still stuck with me. I wouldn't have it any other way.
@@RelicQuadrangle im 11 and i watch aot lol why did you say you have to be matured to understand it liek the setting is dark and the story is a bit complicated but if you just think a lil more about it you will understand the masterpiece story
@@sycte949 because that's the rating it was given? The respected rating because some children your age might not be able to handle stuff like that. I'm not saying you can't.
Also it's "Like"
I really love that Love, Death, and Robots took all sorts of formats for their stories. There’s such an emphasis on 2D and 3D animation, that it makes the stories pop out more. At least in my mind, that is.
The tale of princess kaguya is the most beautiful creation I’ve ever seen. And the music takes me to specific scenes when listened to outside the movie. Please watch.
Hell yeah! It's a masterpiece
I know the Turning Red hype is still ongoing but this video made me realize just another aspect of why I love it so much?? As a Chinese-Canadian girl that grew up in Toronto I already felt super SEEN by the movie, but the animation style also helped transport the audience back to the *feeling* of 2000s Toronto that live action wouldn't have been able to do. Instead of a Scott Pilgrim-esque grimy 2010s Toronto (which to be fair, wasn't 100% live action), the animation in Turning Red made my city look SO beautiful and magical!!
(idk if that's a take on how Canada is a mystical fantasy place in media, but that's a topic for another day)
That's true, I love the way it depicts downtown Toronto
I mean Toronto was a much prettier place in the 2000s than the 2010s cuz boy, the air pollution has gotten so bad in the past 10 years sadly.
A lot of “film & television critics” won’t admit that animators are able to tell a deep story with good visuals and character development better than your average live action film. ☕️
@@CATmetchu Mega facts!
Recently got a job in animation and mentioned this in my interview.
Animation doesn’t get enough respect. There are stories that work best or only work in animation.
It is a medium of limitless potential but it’s often so easy to brush off because “cartoons are for kids”
Congratulations on getting a job in animation! And yeah, animation needs more respect.
@person person oh god not sausage party
love these videos man, this one in particular, such an insightful video, plus i can tell how passionate you are about your feelings with animation and your sense of humor makes these videos so much better lol
Exactly
That film “9” is really great and the backstory is way deeper and cooler
I remember seeing that movie when I was a kid at a friend's house and was always wondering what it was but then I saw it on Netflix about a year ago and rewatched it. I liked it a lot more this time round cos I remember it making me feel so sad because of the amount of deaths in that movie but it's fire, and kind underrated
Animation is an insanely powerful medium and it needs to be appreciated the way it deserves. And it shouldn't be a hot take, but 90% of stories are better told in animation than in live action
Love that you included the chase scene from Attack on Titan. Probably one of my favorite animated action sequences of all time
as an animator, thank you for making this video ♥️ it’s the reason why a writer for live action will get paid more than writing for animation even if it’s the same workload, and the animation industry as a whole does not get paid enough and is often overworked, and overlooked, even though this industry has been CARRYING the entertainment industry through the entirety of the pandemic.. animators and artists never stopped working!! and it’s dumb to prefer live action over an animated movie.. like majority of that marvel movie you watched is vfx stuff so that’s animated too 😭😭
Seriously, Arcane is a masterpiece. You don't even have to play the game it's based on, the storytelling combined with the animation is top notch!
ATLA and Korra will always be closest to my heart. Turning Red, Soul, Mulan, Spiderverse, Kimi No Nawa are some of my favorite movies too. Oh and Arcane was just incredible. Thank you Nathan, this was a fantastic video
"When you're a kid, nothing touches animation"
Me, an adult, still watching mostly animation
Honestly I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t respect animation. Ratatouille is widely regarded as the best film of all time
It's my favorite Pixar movie, next to The Incredibles.
I know a few people who don't like anything animated, it just doesn't attract them, it's fascinating
My mom will watch literally anything as long as it’s not animated. Cinderella 2021 was enough for a watch but Encanto, Mitchell’s and the Machines, Luca all not worth watching because they’re animated.
That’s really cool tbh. Most people I’m surrounded also don’t mind animation but there really are a lot of people that don’t want anything to do with animation and automatically assume it to be for kids. Still enrages me every time I meet someone like that 😅 It’s like saying you don’t like any music.
@@Snowsda I undestand that feeling, friend.
Coraline is legit one of my favorite movies of all time. not even just animated. i don't even think the movie would hit the same if it had been live action. i think people really underestimate just how much animation can be used to immerse audiences in new worlds and plots.
Coraline is 100% the greatest movie of all time imo. Ever since I saw it 10 years ago, I just can’t stop thinking about it. The thing about using imagery to tell a story is that, through those images that story becomes seared into your brain. When I finish watching a film, I can’t really remember much about it. Characters names leave my brain, as well as most of the plot. But Coraline’s use of imagery I think about it everyday. I’m not even being hyperbolic. Only other film that makes me feel similarly is Edward Scissorhands.
The animation process clips from Akira are insane- the detail on those background cels are incredibly impressive
"If you imagine it, it can be created and out on screen"
This man is speaking the truth!
That's right :)
thiiiiis. i'm an animator but even just as a fan of the medium it always bothers me when people dismiss animation as 'just for kids'. the level of talent and work that goes into these films and shows deserves so much respect as an art form.
one of the sadder parts of animated movies getting more attention is that amazing voice actors are getting replaces with voices from generic action movie stars who don't know how to do it properly. don't get me wrong, some actors can do both but voice acting is such a different skill compared to regular acting.
but of course, it has always been true that slapping a famous actor on the cover of a movie increases your sale exponentially.
God I love how you brought up Your Name here, it’s genuinely beautiful and the only way a live action remake could ever live up to it is by being as equal of a masterpiece and have a genuinely resonant romance so big and iconic that it gets referenced as much as Titanic. That’s the only way I can see it work.
I’m really sad that Disney shut down Blue Sky Studios and cancelled all of their projects, especially Nimona after hearing everything about it and what its animation would look like.
Netflix: We've saved Nimona.
not only is this already a classic, but it's also VERY timely. kudos for making this video when there's the whole situation with new deal for animation going on. not only are animators (and voice actors, sometimes) basically invisible, and not only is animation just disregarded and considered "less serious" in general, but it's reflected in how they're paid! it's awful, and you're 100000% right about the freedom and specific artistic style of animation. it's AMAZING.
and even the stuff that's "for kids" is often still enjoyable for adults, or has serious themes that are valuable.
arcane and the legend of vox machina have been great. also this video is filled with awesome recs--AND thank you for the reminder about the movie 9! i only ever saw it once but holy shit it was wild. i feel like i might get it and appreciate it more now that i'm older.
As an animator in the industry, to do something like into the spiderverse or arcane are huge goals of mine. And its good to hear people appreciate and understand animation when a lot of people dont give it a chance. Its the best! The possibilities are endless!
I completely agree when you said you’re sick of seeing the same concepts over and over. I think anime has so much to offer! And like you said, your name was such a unique and interesting concept, as well as being incredibly and beautifully animated!
I’m holding out a fraction of hope that Netflix won’t butcher avatar the last air bender, but I also agree that the fight scenes and the anime-esque facial expression that make it funny just won’t be able to be translated into a live action.
yeah but it sucks how most of anime is mad creepy and pedophilic which doesn't help when nearly all of it is based around underage characters.
You should definitely watch the movie "I Lost My Body" on Netflix. Hands down it is one of the best animated movies out there, and its one of the few animated movies that isn't aimed towards children. It's about a hand who gets severed from its body and crawls all across Paris to get back to it's owner- its such a fresh take on storytelling and animation in general. Deffo check it out.
I second this! Such a good and unique film
I loved that movie and i feel that more people should talk about it. As someone who considers ghibli to be the peak of animated movies personally, I Lost My Body (which is not a ghibli film and not even in the same style, i want to clarify) feels like it could sit among them in terms of quality, perhaps even be better than some of them.
@@hellothepixel1107 One hundred percent. Everything about that movie from the score (that soundtrack goes so hard icl) to the animation is just top of the league. It really feels like an animated movie crafted with a live action lens, as all the techniques and craftsmanship you would expect from a live action movie is there in animation. Personally, my favourite scene is the one where Naoufel (hope im spelling that right) is delivering the pizza and talks to the girl on the intercom. The dialogue, the vibes, the cinematography: all of it just makes this perfect scene which is just so cozy to watch. Man, i could talk about this movie for hours.
I love this movie I really enjoy it
as an animator its always so nice and surprising to see videos like this and im always so weirdly shocked when someone outside of the animation industry appreciates the art. I think a lot of us working in the field feel like most people don't care about animation and what we do. It can be a bit sad sometimes since its such a tough process. Finishing production on a short film feels like a miracle, and don't get me started on feature films, I have no idea how people pull this off, it must be close to impossible. The amount of work that goes into making animation is INSANE, requires tons of people that most of the time have been training to be artists since they were children. It can be pretty depressing when nobody wants to watch your work simply because they think the medium is for kids. And the less people watch animation the less likely it is that adult/experimental animation will get funding. So those films dont get made unfortunately. There are plenty of people with vision and ideas but not a lot of people that are willing to take the risk to fund those films. So yeah, thanks for making this video. And yall should go watch Flee, it's an absolute travesty that it lost the Oscar
Arcane was INSANE!!!! I literally had to pause to admire some of the shots!! Also one animation that in my opinion is really underrated is Kipo on Netflix. Seriously is SO good? And the music in it is insane also very good representation!!!
I’m watching it with my bf and I literally feel so giddy at the start of each episode. It’s been FOREVER since a show or a movie has made me feel that way.
Perfect Blue is legit the movie that takes my favorites.
The way Satoshi Kon created an animation that feels real and at the same time not is already amazing enough. But the way he gave you a mind-fuck throughout is so amazing.
Likewise, the fact that he predicted the weird yet very toxic side of the idol culture amazes me until this day.
nah this one hit me in the feels you don't miss
i believe Sony Pictures Animation (same studio that made Spiderverse) is making their first R-rated animated movie, so I think we’re seeing more of a push for adult-animated content over here.. another adult animated show I’d recommend is Love Death + Robots, it’s an anthology series kind of like Black Mirror but they’re animated shorts, they experiment with a lot of different styles like both 3D and 2D
I'm a Spanish viewer and when I see your videos on my feed it makes me immensely happy. I just love the topics you choose to talk about (especially the ones related to music), the humor, and how you develop everything. Thanks for uploading this!
already a classic
"The Wind Rises" By Studio Ghibli is the best animated film I've ever seen, and the best film period I've ever seen. It as with several of animated films truly changed my life forever in an indescribable yet beautiful way.
The work put into making Kubo is absolutely insane to me. I did a little animation for my art project last year and I gained even more respect for animators!
Spielberg was definitely inspired by anime for his adaptation of West Side Story, the colours, cinematography, camera movements, action-peaked dance sequences, it looked way too Cool. No pun intended.
People will talk about how "animation is for kids" but seem to ignore a few things like how every single one of us used to be children at some point, or how much of the stuff we watched as kids wasn't just animated, but it was something that could take the time to teach and tell us something that would be a part of our everyday lives.
One of my favorite animated movies to this day is Wolf Children, a film about a mother raising children that are half human and half wolf, which honestly in my opinion has one of the best messages about finding your calling in life.
Yeah, animation isn't live action, but that in no way changes what it has to offer.
I was in the mood to do a video about animation, especially growing up watching so many different things, and you beat me to the punch! I think people really don’t ever care about animation anymore nowadays because they still think they’re cartoons like you stated or childish, I WILL NEVER FORGET 9! That film scarred me as a child, thanks for making me feel like I wasn’t crazy for having the same thoughts. Hope you’ve been well my guy!
I'm glad somebody said it. It's ridiculous how little respect animation gets here, considering the amount of effort and visual mastery present in animation.
This is especially poignant after they made fun of animation while presenting the award for it last night at the Oscars. So glad to hear someone talk about it, man!
Damn, as a student in 2d animation it’s cool to see you talk about it with so much love… I 100% agree with everything you say and it’s a shame so much people still think of animation as something exclusively for kids. The most impactful movies I’ve ever seen were all animation.
Really great video, hope the algorithm thinks the same and it’ll help you reach a lot of ppl
(Sorry for the English I’m french)
the english is perfect king
As a 2d animation student, I am SO happy you talked about this. I have been a subscriber of this channel for months now and you always deliver on your videos 💞💞
Facts on facts. I remember telling my dad off when he tried me about still watching animation at 21, now I'm headed to 30 and stay watching my animated shows and movies, and he no longer gives me shit about it lol
Animation is art. Period.
Facts.
Me this whole video: PREACH. YES. THANK YOU.
My man spitting facts, and the worst part is that it’s not gonna change unless we choose to show up in force to the premieres
avatar the last airbender is still the greatest animated piece of work i've seen. i can't see myself not watching it because of the children aspect of it because the story, visuals, characters, and meaning are so captivating. it seemed like everything made sense and it felt like i was on a journey with the characters. The finale was amazing and arguably the greatest finale in animation.
Have u seen anime
The How To Train Your Dragon series is so epically animated. A live-action version could never even come close.
I adore it
Arcane is a straight up masterpiece. No joke. That scene in the end of episode three is pure cinema in my opinion.
i mention often, but i'm still blown away about your ability to just talk so smoothly through your videos while seemingly effortlesly telling the story you want! i love your videos and the topics you chose!
The soundtracks to these movies are always so much better too. From Giacchino to Ghibli they all seem to have stupendously good music to go alongside them. Adds to the movie so much, especially for a movie like From Up On Poppy Hill, where the plot and characters arent the strongest, but the soundtrack and visuals carry it.
Animation has always been my favourite medium for story telling!! I find that it brings out the beauty of the human experience so vividly, even in typical/mundane situations! The capacity for aesthetics is just so strong.
Though I hate the idea that adult animation is tied to violence. Some of my most favourite animated stories are slice of life, like Barakamon. This show is so timeless and heartfelt. I don’t think the same feelings would have been captured in a live action.
Edit: also I’ve never been able to forget the Eris, Goddess is Discord from Sinbad. Her hair is magnificent!
Laika makes some of my favourite movies (Kubo and the Two Strings being one of my favourite movies of all time) and yet they get no hype. It's really devastating because they're visually stunning, the stories are incredible, and YEARS of hard work and dedication go into making them for little profit.
Laika is one the best animation studios of all time. I love their movies.
I literally spent an entire year of highschool animating in my free time and all I had to show for it at the end was less than 15 mins of clips. It’s more than just an art it’s a whole ass craft if people knew what went into it they wouldn’t dismiss it’s.
I remember making animations on flip a clip as a teenager and man was it hard as hell. Made me respect animation a whole lot more.
Forget live-action remakes. I’m tryna see animated remakes. Imagine a claymation Planet of the Apes movie, or a swashbuckling Pirates of the Caribbean in the style of Moana.
This is a really good idea.
@@theoxyscape7057 Right?
These are such great ideas! For me, i would definetly love to see a Harry Potter animated adaptation with the Studio Ghibli art style. 😊
@@onepresence9460 That would also be awesome
@@k-dawgwestmore4643 Indeed, my friend!
We have the power as humans to create a reality that's improved and that's influenced by our own sense of creation and artistry. It's like the ultimate form of cinema and it gathers every art you could think of together. Animation is the ultimate form of art, and it's a shame it's not being exploited more for adult content
I've once seen a video about how Animation has been separated from movies etc. and categorized as this other genre somehow reserved to "kids", and it has touched me profoundly. Animation, in reality, is more of an cinematography choice rather than a genre. Just like a movie can be shot in B&W or in colours, Digital or 35mm, filmmakers can choose to do a movie in animation or in "real life", despite of their choice, it is still a movie. The Academy, back in the day, separated "colored films" from "b&w films" in different categories, just like "best motion picture" and "best animated picture" are separated. However, they understood that both B&W/coloured films are equally motion pictures despite their cinematography/art choice. The tone of the narrative, the topics, the script it is what defines its genre. Genres should be horror, comedy, romantic, etc.
ANIMATION, therefore, should not be considered a genre, but rather an artistic choice of a production. Just as serious as any other film, not limited to kids, that can portray any story and any genre.
You checked every point I'd make on my list, down to the lack of sauce in the live action "I just can't wait to be king" sequence. It really comes down to the lack of value people place on creatives, despite having the privilege to indulge on timeless gems.
Didn't expect to see Killer Bean here though. Lol
Animation also has the greatest potential for visual narratives IMO, the "show, don't tell" method, coz you're only limited by your imagination (& budget) with how you'll express an idea or create a vibe. In _Kimi no Nawa_ (Your Name) that short animation when the girl took a photo of the cake with her phone is one of my fave little animated sequences, along with some beautiful scenes. _A Silent Voice_ didn't strike me as much the first watch (partly coz of some confusing scenes in the beginning), but Kyoto Animation more than any other anime studio makes a lot of use of the actual character animation to tell their stories or describe their characters, and I also watched the movie with my aunt who didn't understand the spoken or subtitle language but she understood the story just from the visuals. A lot of anime series unfortunately do the opposite and have to say a lot of obvious stuff while the visual is just a facial close-up.
YESSS to the love and respect for Emperor’s New Groove and the straight fire Ratatouille soundtrack. I think the most beautiful animated film I’ve ever seen is The Aristocats. Which sounds like a joke but the hand-drawn animation is insane!!! It was made in the seventies before the huge Disney blockbusters that followed, and the colors, the scenery, everything is stunning. It’s set in Paris, so it’s basically a hand-drawn Ratatouille. The OG 101 Dalmatians is up there too