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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2023
- More torrential rain Wednesday morning brought more flooding to Auckland residents, with many saying they have had enough and want the Council to take accountability.
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Maybe if they stop suffocating the city & building on every spare MM of land the cities infrastructure could handle these events ? New Zealand 🇳🇿 needs to grow & and develop, but not all in one city ,we have a beautiful country to share & grow ❤️🇳🇿
yeap the concrete jungle,the only way to stop the floods is to build a huge waste water system as big as the city under the city (that is what Tokyo japan has done...they no have no floods but cost a billion $$ to build) Also stop using the farm land and flood plans to build poor quality new homes on, there is no where the water can go or soak into anymore, its not like Auckland has huge cannels for storm water to go..we are lacking in instructor (where are the pump stations in the low areas aswell) come on Auckland council you get paid enough, time to do some work ae ae
Way too much hard stand preventing water from soaking into the land.
Totally agree. Time to create another city based on sustainable principles. It's unlikely Auckland will ever be fixed. Time to think of people first.
Stop the growth we are already too big
@@FG-te1qg you know instead of doing anything about it they'll just blame climate change
ty NZHerald for allowing NZ'ders to leave comments! It's helping our country deal with this horrible ordeal.
Feel very sad for the people of Auckland praying for all that are affected by this flood. South Africa.
My family lives up on a hill we’re very lucky im so sorry for anyone who got their home destroyed 🙏
Thats a hard working Punjabi helping people to get where they need to go.
Punjabi, you say Punjabi? Maybe high on unknown substance, Udatta Punjabi.
He could’ve potentially put his passengers lives at risk. He should never have been driving through floodwater that high.
@@rajeshchandra8926 he's not scared like you people🐄🍺
@@geeunit831
He knew it wasn't going to get any deeper tho.
@@thejoke2791 it's not just the depth of the flooding that is a factor. The bus could’ve washed off the road or tipped over or got stuck and they could’ve been stranded putting his life and the other passengers in danger. If your child was on that bus I doubt you'd have such a casual attitude about this.
Unfortunately that's what happens when you buy a house next to a creek. They want their houses bought back by the council ? They weren't sold to them by the council. There would have been a lim report available showing the water course .
Shhhhhhhhhh do not talk like that about the NZ Government Councils it would mean they got no money when you have huge Forests National Reserves there for pulp supply to make the notes dollars. Like just one huge tree at Hagely Park even can make many 100 dollars bill 🙄😒
They did very clearly point out that prior to the flood, a lot of houses that got flooded had LIM reports that failed to mention the property was in a flood zone.
Now those LIM reports have been updated and on top of the damage to those properties, the change to the LIM means the property has lost value.
Whether or not the councils can or should do something financially to fix that problem aside... There's a legitimate cause for grievance there on the part of those homeowners yeah?
Yup sorry it’s harsh but the brought the house, they had access to LIM reports, whether they actually read it is another story!
The auckland council is partly to blame for this, lack of improving the waterways contributed to the flooding. Ive seen volenteering groups going around cleaning the rivers and streams, where as the council have gardening labourers monthly potting expensive plants around the west. Looking nice is one thing but all that is just smoke amd mirrors, but nature has exposed that for all to see.
Agreed. Auckland was having issues with flooding during heavy storms for years. Never fixed it. Too expensive. Now boom. A big flood hits and now there's a big expense anyway _and_ the infrastructure still sucks.
The bus driver was from India. They don’t really have a concept of safety over there
judging from outside
the bus driver was doing a good job and she called the police in him ?
Karen's are so weird. Yup. we all don't get them bro.🤷♂️
This is what we have been dealing with non stop for 14 months in Australia
Lost everything twice in one year and we about to flood again in the coming weeks
Better have aluminium wardrobe and kitchen cabinet. Metal chairs.
Avoid any wooden furniture
Been thrice through flooding since 5 years ago. Recent one just 1 week.
Good on the bus driver
Somebody was paid plenty of money to ascertain these homes and their location as safe and suitable.
Their names are on the paperwork, why aren't they being held to account for failing at to give sound advice?
Why aren't the owners responsible for doing research before buying? Don't live at the bottom of a hill and complain that the land report didn't mention flooding. But I suppose blaming others is easier?
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Takes two to tango. The city provided permits for houses on a flood plain. (This happens all over the world) The home owners didn't think about whether theses homes were at a low point or not. They assumed that because the city had allowed them to be built that the houses were located in an appropriate are. The fact is, that you can build in a flood plain IF you take into account that it WILL flood, and build the building with that in mind. So build it above flood level on pilings. This would save a lot of damage and problems.
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Because this is a once in a 100 year weather event and no one could predict how lands will react during same all I am saying is it gets tiring living in a world where everything is always someone else's problems its just dumbing down the human race because people don't need to think anymore, they can just blame others for their proiblems/stupidity
that bus driver was a true gigachad hero
😭..thought bus driver wes getting passengers home✌🏾
Cheap hypocrites taking free pot-shots at Wayne Brown slow response for action... 🤓
Yep, it's an infrastructure problem, and the buck stops at those in charge of infrastructure: local government.
I agree, Council hasn't maintained any culverts or stormwater ditches in Titirangi for years.
While the infrastructure is bad and outdated, had it been improved would it have actually stopped the flooding?
The rainfall beat a 56 year record.
Housing density, Urbanisation, are but a couple more of many, many factors that helped lead to flooding.
@@sambeaumont395 yes had it been improved it would have not been so bad as what we see...the council drop the ball on this one.
@@kwazimokava - yeah not as bad, but still flooding is my point.
Even if the system had been upgraded (and very recently) it’s unlikely that it would have been built to deal with a new record level of rainfall.
And if less recently all the extra houses that have since started to feed into it as well.
@@sambeaumont395I don't know. But today the PM said their approach to the so called climate emergency was on reducing greenhouse gases, not on updating infrastructure to cope with what they believe are inevitable extreme weather events. Maybe local government thought reducing emissions was good enough? Well, they know now that it isn't.
I studied in NZ in 1984. Never imagined Auckland and other places nearby would experience flood and destruction in such magnitude. I pray for you all for strength protection safety and peace to be able to go through these tough times and ahead. 🙏
That bus ride was probably the highlight of the whole flood experience! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol IKR..
@@SuperLuckao I'd be yelling "KEEP DRIVING TILL YOU RUN OUTTA GAS!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why is the drainage soo bad? Who can we blame for that?
Would've been Jacinda, but now she's gone, everyone is struggling to find someone to easily blame.
@@CarstenSvendsen ratepayers? We pay our rates. Not everyone has extra money to put into rates. How about the govt is to blame? How about putting all our money in more important things like umm I dunno better infrastructure and cleaning out storm drains?
Wonder if the drains have been getting cleaned out properly maintenance wise??? Maybe they hadnt been??...
@@CarstenSvendsen huh? They do pay. Blame the ones who are in control of where funds are going.
Building more houses didn't come on the hand of updating drainage pipe system... so it was matter of time for this happened... I live on a street where more than 20 new houses has been built in the pass 3 years: no only more car parked on the street because they are tiny and have only 1 carpark, the important thing is no any drainage pipe update has been done on the street... more than 20 houses are more than 40 toilet and showers more+the extreme rain... Stonefield is was the exception, because they built a neighborhood and did the properly... but build houses as mushrooms without update de infrastructure is the perfect recipe for this flooding situation.
Pretty sure I looked at those houses years ago. If they were the ones I saw, it came up on the LIM report or I just figured they were in a flood zone. They were built on poles but had no garages underneath, just carports.
Sending Prayers for the families.
😢South Island, Auckland,Coromandel, Gisborne, had there turn it looks like it’s coming our way. My prays are with you Auckland.
Drainage system need a massive major upgrade, that should At least limit the flooding or prevent it.
The mayors reaction is one thing but the infrastructure issues are historical, and multiple councils and governments are at fault…but right now the priorities are the re housing and support for ALL those affected by this catastrophic event!
My thoughts r with lovely people of Auckland.
Whoa wish I was on that bus but only bcoz it made it through the flood 😅
Very sad May God Almighty help people of Auckland New Zealand.
Why would he when people are sinners (p.s I'm not religious)
@@cherrysnow4923 you must be fun at parties.
@@ianuy3346 yeah but it's a rare thing to seek purity in this world, i have this funny idea that the purest of people will be the first to fly without wings and hold good nature, if some large change ever occurs and the universe evolves into higher realms involved higher dimensions
@@cherrysnow4923 bro imagine you were in this someone DIED trying to save other people we deserve to live you should be the one flooded not me and the rest of nz
@@Notthatguyyt my comment is about god not about me
That bus driver has definitely watched "like a bus" on CZcams
The weather looks great here in Auckland
How are the water levels now?
We are coming up on the 9th. But we don't know what is actually operating in the CBD, sky city area. We are staying at the millenium as they're still operating ❤️
Hoping we are able to help clean up if someone needs it ❤️
I am sorry for them.
Good idea to get photos, drains may be over there capacity, and regional councils need to be planning, at least 50 years a head, photos are helpful, I have lived through this , new subdivisions are add on with out a though of will the old infrastructure can cope. So lobby your councilors, very unpleasant situation.
Legend-level bus driver 🙌🏾not crazy
Good luck everyone, stay safe out there
I wonder if Auckland council is like my local council, who won't unblock the drains proactively. They wait until they cause problems, such as flooding, which is something that FUNCTIONING drainage is meant to help prevent!!!!
They don't want to blown their budget,
@@goodwinter6017
So who's budget gets blown now, for the repairs?
Good grief. So much for health and safety. Driving a bus through that must have been really traumatising for the passengers and also creasing waves washing up into people's properties.
She didn't wanna go to sleep because she thinks she might drown
Has the weather settled down in Auckland? I pray it has 🙏💕
Nothing major, it was a one off massive down pour, happens very rarely, last one was 5 or 8 years ago?!
Flooded that entire area in newlynn west Auckland, they've fixed it.
Debbie Borrows calling 111 for other peoples problems, sticking her nose in other peoples business ,consider emergency personnel would have their hands full ,people on that bus just want to get home Debbie not standing around waiting for the water to recede lol
with great power comes great responsibility
AKLD council has not bn cleaning drains for a long time
Good to see a bus driver with some balls
Have to dig the drains all around Auckland and make sure new houses will have drain big enough for water flow not cheap small drain and cause more with flood.
Cancel school and work. So people stays home and can prepare. Work still going on even there is continuous rain. Warning only confuses some people if they are meant to go to work or not. Red alert means no work. That should be the ruling. So people stays at home and be prepared in any event.
It’s sunny in Auckland
Really scary and sad😦
Yes the correct infstruc.... upgrade your storm water systems...it's 2023 not 1990...GET ON WITH IT ANY WAY YOU CAN
Hands up those who signed petitions stopping Kainga Ora building homes for the homeless
The busses have there engine in the back so that's why they can get through. Good on the bus driver.
That bus driver 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
my question is are there planned safe routes for the bus drivers??
Flood prone area
8 floods in 7 years means the land isn't safe, it's too flood prone.. No point cleaning up after each flood.. Need to relocate.
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It only makes the news if it is Auckland, we have been flooded 8 times in the last 15 years never seen a news reporter or received any help from council or the government. But then we don’t live in Auckland.
Congrats to the bus driver. He is probably a surfer in his spare time.
Dear frends its sad.Keep all yur important things together so in an emergency u can take it with u.God help u.
The dis towards Brown is targetted and not humble reporting of the facts.
You're overs Wayne Brown.
I grew up in holland, there water is all around.
If you build in nature's path, at some point nature will reclaim it. Sorry for the losses, but don't build where water can rise to, just don't.
As for the slips, I live in Switzerland now and although the country is X times denser than NZ, there is virtually no building of structures & roads in slip zones. maybe avoid such areas?
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Terrible for those affected but the media and government are milking this for all its worth. I work all over auckland, yes Friday was bad, but the emergency is over
God, I feel so glad and so lucky that I wasn't flooded !!!! 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
do you live in Auckland
@@ninjapirate123 Yes I do.
@@neonarcade3562 great, glad your suburb wasn't flooded
@@neonarcade3562 yesterday it was so sunny, but today it was raining again
Why blather on about old LIM docs not stating flood zones? Of course they didn't know these homes would be flood-prone, the climate effects hadn't taken hold as strongly and those homes weren't flood-prone at the time.
Silver iodine the news needs to follow up on the official information act requests that have been ignored for months
They really didn't have long to worry huh lmao
Seriously though, stay safe eveyone
This at 1.1* C. heating. Wait till it's 1.5* and beyond. Thanks Exxon and Kochs.
That bus driver performed a perfect water crossing. Perfect bow wave and consistent speed. He clearly has some experience driving through water and should be commended on keeping his passengers and vehicle safe rather than stalling in the middle of what is almost a river.
It’s only been a matter of months since the last flood event in Auckland.. we get a significant event at least once a year so why the panic. Anyone remember the water shortage years a couple of years back. The gent in charge of Watercare said at the time Auckland relies on rainfall to keep the dams full. Hello.. isn’t that what happened. The issue is bigger than just one local government.. Auckland’s population has doubled in the last 35 years. Subdivisions and infill housing have sprung up where the risk of storm water damage was minimized or overlooked. So here we are.. build in a floodplain and you will get flooded sooner or later.
True that why are people panicing about this flood event when really all it does is help refill the dams for New Zealand 🇳🇿 since that water drought that was going on in the past few years and should also look on the bright side of things cause without this big flash flood event we wouldn't of had water or anything to drink out of when this stuff happened so honestly gotta thank Mother Nature for this. 😀 (Also other people/countries in the world 🌎 had experienced this before so yeah).
Yes to three waters. 🎉
this will probably start pushing property prices back up again
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it will get even worse in coming years , better to not to live so close by the water.
stop seeding the clouds ?
I doubt New Zealand out of all countries needs to cloud seeding for water
luckly i live in papakura
This is why you dont want to buy a house in Auckland .... it is very bad if you bought a house ... you are better off renting ....
Raspberry for the new mayor.
Karen" this is the councils fault".
mother nature..."lol"
Feed the fear
There's not many places in NZ u can build houses, bcos nature always wins
Only in New Zealand
True that
Really? Similar or worse flooding in other countries seems to make our news quite often.
next ones tonight babycakes! hahaha
The council can buy the tapu lands back
Kerp safe NZ
Isaiah 13:14
I don’t get how one person can be blamed for a natural disaster? No one was prepared for this, as much as no one would be prepared if a new volcano erupted and formed in the middle of the city. We just have to get on with it and and get thru it and be prepared for the future. One person cannot have all the answers to something no one saw coming whether your a mayor or the king of England or Dwayne “the Rock” Johnson. Come on
Totally agree
Yes agreed, its just his communication is just hilariously bad for a person in a leadership role.
When I unzip I'm definitely Dwayne the rock Johnson
That's people for you though....If there is no one to blame , then we must blame ourselves / this kind of mentality is in lot's of stuff sports referee's or coaches for example...fall guys. , which is also false....no blame just shit luck get on with it
Not really. There were clear signs that something was very wrong as early as 6am on Friday. Some saw (like myself) and others were completely in their own world and shrugged it off. I actually feared for my life on my drive home and warned my family. Nowadays, it's completely up to people if they want to rely on the authorities because they won't bat an eye when thousands of people get stranded at a cancelled Elton John concert.
"I don't wanna cry on camera"
Cameraman: 5 more seconds this is good
LOL was thinking that
99% of Auckland is unaffected. Which means that the drainage network saved 99% of Auckland. Considering the upgrades and ongoing work going into stormwater and wastewater it's a pretty good result that only 1% of homes affected . And the majority of that 1% are minor water damage . The media including social media blow it all out of proportion
Where did you get 99%??? The whole Northland, Northshore, central and southern suburbs even the airport was completely flooded. Clearly you're underestimating the severity of the flood, maybe you should come and see for yourself....
Wrong. Its the biggest natural disaster bill ever.
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They're living in fear of????????
Way to misrepresent the Mayor yet again, folks. When he said 'some of those houses shouldn't have been where they are' he wasn't referring to Debbie's bit of suburbia. He was talking about the cliff-top ones that are now teetering on the edge. He was absolutely right on that point.
I hope the bus driver's actions are reviewed by his company. We all should've learnt from Friday's experience of why driving in flooding is a no no.
Keep your panties on. It's a puddle for a bus like that. It's not even moving. He could probably drive that route blindfolded and now you mean evil person trying to get the guy fiered.
@@paulfreed6394 reviewed, you're the one talking about getting fired. My panties are fine like yours I assume. Enjoy your day.
He did the right thing, it was that or people not being able to get home, but that's one way to tell people you would leave desperate people stranded
What kind of logic is that? The bus driver could've easily just stop driving and say "Welp, see ya later suckers" and ran away to save himself but no, he just kept driving to a point where people can safely get off the bus.
@@tanedunn3607 this wasn't a flash flood like Friday where all were caught off guard with no solid alerts and warnings as is now. You see a heavily flooded street with a car already submerged most of the way, you don't proceed. Of course, only the driver and passengers can speak from a witness' perspective and I hope we get to hear their side.
“We really want the council to buy our properties back and demolish them.” In what way does this make business sense? The council didn’t sell you a lemon
😭😭😭I am from pakistan..
Imma get my Kayak out if this happens again
Lol that guy in a kayak photobombing the news already near you to that
Sad to say BUT our beautiful country is TOOOO over crowded more people more infrastructure needed to our little nest we call home nz.. And to all bus operators not your fault you have to carry on with your daily mission but come on people those roads are mighty soft thought about soak holes a curing 😝🙃 .
The water floats half the weight of the bus.😏
Malaysian government also no special special act to prevent next flood.... No worries we all suffer together in God's test only
W bus driver
Sign the end of time is coming
Indeed
Only the strongest may survive the floods and the great egg shortage
look at where the ladies house is built no wonder theyve had so many floods in the few years theyve lived there for the house is built in a ditch lmao , auckland has some of the worst geography in the country for houses
Out west is the land of wetlands
Tudo culpa de pecados das pessoas que afronta à natureza, casando homem com homem e mulher com mulher..... etc. etc. etc.....
'ALL the fault of people's sin' has been dealt with at the cross of Jesus!
God our Father has dealt with the sin of the world ONCE and for all.
Read the New Testament, starting with Acts 2, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. (Jesus was born under the law to fulfil it on the Jewish people's behalf, still OT).
Maybe we should stop sending huge amounts of money to Ukraine