If any major animation studio made a film today about genocide, racism, and lust, and then targeted it for a younger audience...they'd be in for a world of hurt.
With the exception of the last wish, the bad guys, Megamind, the prince of Egypt, and maybe kung fu panda two DreamWorks has not really been that edgy.
The Prince of Egypt is a pretty stellar and mature kid's film as well. Though I think most of the old Disney movies (I know PoE is Dreamworks) were mature, they just presented their maturity in different ways.
@@jaceyking5015 I can't watch PoE without crying--though I'm sad that Stephen Schwartz's commitment to it meant he couldn't do the music for Mulan (not by choice).
Back then, Disney wasn't scared to take risks. In terms of Disney's characterization of Frollo, Don Hahn, the producer of Hunchback (who also produced Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, and Atlantis) said that Frollo was based on Ralph Fiennes' portrayal of Amon Goeth in Schindler's List. Keep in mind that Goeth was a real person. As commandant of the Krakow concentration camp, he hated Jews in the same manner that Frollo hated the Romani people. A genocidal sadist who had a Jewish maid he routinely abused while harboring feelings for her. Just like how Frollo was hellbent on exterminating the Romani people but finds himself lusting after Esmeralda. It's one of those compelling stories that holds up and withstands the test of time.
In some ways, "Hunchback" represents the peak of the Disney renaissance. For me there are a couple other films in that era that offer a slightly better overall package. But the highpoints of this one are Disney at its greatest.
Yes. People need to show kids the classics! Disney Renaissance, Neverending story, Mary Poppins, Last Unicorn, or even going all the way back to Chaplin or even the shorter Melies films all hold up and capture childrens' imaginations to this day.
@@travisboutilier2220 being rejected is not a value but being able to accept rejection is. respecting woman enough to not grow resentful of them when they reject you, but respecting their autonomy and choices. You don't have to be deformed to get rejected by woman. Quasimodo appreciates the kindness Esmeralda showed him beyond the romantic and sexual side. She enriched his life simply by being there and treating him like a person. treating woman like people is the first step to a healthy relationship and being a person includes making your own choices which in turn includes turning down men even when they are good people. A girl doesn't have to sleep with the nice guy just to prove she isn't a whore. grow up
This has become my favorite movie in the Disney canon not just because of its mature plot and themes, but also the soundtrack and memorable characters. Disney will never make a movie like this again.
One thing I’ve always appreciated with this movie, is the tackling of unrequited love. You don’t always get what you want, that’s life. I think children needs to see that. To me, Quasimodo being able to be happy for Esmeralda and Pheobus, and move on from his own feelings, is way more heroic than every main character who ends up in a romantic relationship with the main woman/man.
Well I didn't appreciate that and it's the whole reason I don't like this movie. you should get what you want, it's not fair when you don't, it's makes life miserable. children don't need to see that. Quasimodo should have been mad at and jealous of Phoebus getting Esmeralda instead of him and refuse to move on, it's more heroic to end up in a romantic relationship.
@@travisboutilier2220I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or just a terrible person. I'm leaning towards sarcastic but I've seen so many teash takes online that I cannot be sure.
@@travisboutilier2220You've been commenting things like this on other comments to the point this is concerning. You cannot force a person into a relationship, that is SA, plain and simple. The healthiest thing both for you and the person you are atracted to is to just move on. Everyone will get rejected at some point, I have been there too, and it is alright, they just were not he person for you. (Idk if arguing has any point because you are likely to be a troll so I think I will leave it at this.)
The answer to the riddle "who is the monster and who is the man" seems to be completely self-evident by the end the prologue - but it's actually much more layered. Of course Frollo is the monster - morally speaking. But Quasimodo is also the monster - he is Frollo's monster. Really, there is no fixed definition for what a monster is - it could be anything, and it could look like anything. At its core, a "monster" is something uncanny and threatening. The monster unsettles the beholder because it's something they simply can't define, something that threatens their view of the world, something simultaneously familiar and unfamiliar. Because what makes the monster so uniquely frightening is that it reflects a suppressed aspect of the beholder's personality. Something about themselves that they're unwilling to deal with, that they can't control - and so they project it onto something external, something they can then blame for their problem. Quasimodo is Frollo's monster - he is physically uncanny to him because he is descended from the gypsies (whom Frollo fears and despises) and is deformed in a way Frollo associates with the devil. He is also uncanny to him because he reflects Frollo's guilt complex. He is the living embodiment of that moment when Frollo killed an innocent woman and tried to drown her child. So he projects his guilt, his self-loathing onto Quasimodo. "You are deformed, and you are ugly." What Frollo really means is that he _himself_ is deformed. He himself is ugly. But that's the part of himself he is terrified of confronting. Ironically, Frollo dies as he tries to kill Quasimodo - he tries to slay the monster, _his_ monster - and thereby slays himself. Because the monstrosity he sees in Quasimodo comes back to him, it's his own monstrosity. None of this, of course, is remotely tied to who Quasimodo is as an individual. In fact, anyone or anything could be "the monster," depending on their position in the story. The question isn't who or what the monster is - but who the one observing them is.
An interesting take, though I will say one thing about it that doesn't really affect your analysis. I don't think Quasimodo actually is descended from the gypsies, at least biologically. Like, if you look at his parents, and you look at him, it's clear they look nothing alike, his obvious deformities aside, as he is a pale redhead, and they both have brown skin and black hair, and so I think the logical thing to conclude is that Quasimodo wasn't their biological son either. However, I do have this theory that has no real basis, but was always kinda my assumption based on the information given in the movie. So my theory is, when Quasimodo was born, he was abandoned by his birth parents due to his deformities, and they decided to place him somewhere, where the gypsies later found him and decided to take pity on him, and raise him as their own. Why were they trying to get into Paris? Probably for a better life for him or something, idk. But yeah, that's just my own speculation and has nothing really to do with your analysis, but is something I'd like to point out anyway as a likelihood.
Fun little detail I noticed in the Quart of Miracles song, when Clopin says “any last words?” After pulling on the rope, look behind him. Phebuses rope is untied form the pole and swings. It’s probably the same for Qausi too! Meaning that even if Esmeralda didn’t save them, they’d just fall without being hung! Clopin knew and was playing the most evil prank on them omg 😂😂😂
I can HIGHLY recommend the stage musical-version of it. Not being hindered by the fanily friendliness I think it's closer to the darker vision. Best example being the gargoyles that are a choir and not specific characters. And they are a lot darker... Frollo: "You don't want to hurt me Quasimodo." The Gargoyles whispering in Quasimodo's ear: "Yes, you do..."
I honestly didn’t care for the Hugo novel and found it to be kind of boring. Which in turn is why I’m not a fan of the American Disney stage musical and find it to be highly overrated. Quasimodo and Esmeralda aren’t very likable in the American Disney stage musical so when they died I simply did not care or feel anything. The choir narrating everything really got on my nerves. Flight Into Egypt is boring, lame and forgettable. Say what you want about A Guy Like You but it’s a least memorable. Disney actually did a stage adaptation in Berlin from 1999-2002. It’s a bit closer to the movie story wise but borrows some elements from the Hugo novel A.K.A the good aspects and ideas. The Gargoyles humor is toned down and confirmed to be In Quasimodo’s imagination. Esmeralda actually dies in this. But unlike the American version and the Hugo novel, it’s handled far better and she’s a more likable character. czcams.com/video/xP8cM6QRkA4/video.html
@@MovieEnforcer It's the Berlin one I was referring to. My fault for not being clear but since it is that one that to my knowledge has been used by other theaters since then I consider it the "real version". :)
There is a reason why I focused my last college paper entirely on this movie, and it goes all the way back to a 6-year-old who thought she knew all the Disney movies. I was literally just watching a compilation of Disney villain defeats on my brother’s computer-and then I see something that actually makes me go “That’s not Disney. It has to be Don Bluth or something.” It was like seeing that creepy firefighter clown from the Brave Little Toaster-only this man was dressed in black. I thought he was just some evil sorcerer from a fantasy movie like the Black Cauldron, but then I look up Frollo’s name and see a *completely different person* . It blew my mind as a kid and it sparked a hyper-fixation that just comes and goes throughout the years. This movie and especially its villain ruined my standards for animated movies for sure, even if the Prince of Egypt is objectively perfect. Sorry for the rambling I’m just still so passionate. 😂 I’m glad this movie is getting more love, happy 27th anniversary Kirk and Gary!
This and Prince of the Egypt are my favorite American animated films and have set the standard for me. No other cartoon movies from the USA come close to the bar these 2 had. I'm sad that they're the exceptions and not the standard that American animated movies aim for. Really wish that Western animation can learn from anime in normalizing mature and dark stories instead of limiting the medium in general to typical children's movies. That said, I personally only rate PoE slightly higher because the gargoyle scenes were dumb and Frollo appears too much like a stereotypical 1-dimensional villain for someone who's supposed to be just a human with the wrong beliefs. Frollo is my favorite Disney villain for actually being human and complex. He believes what he's doing is right, for the good of Paris and for God. It'll help a lot with his depth if he doesn't always have this evil expression/attitude like a generic villain. His motivation and complexity as a villain is akin to Ramses in Prince of Egypt, but his presentation is akin to the pure evil villains like Jafar and Scar. Mother Gothel is the exact opposite, where she has 1-dimensional villain motivations but doesn't always appear evil like a realistic human being.
Hunchback seriously is one of Disney's most mature and realistic films I've ever seen. Like to the cold opening with Bells of Notre Dame to Frollo's villain song Hellfire and Quasimodo's arc throughout the film with his desire to be apart of the community. I honestly still believe that Out There is one of Disney's greatest protagonist "I Want" songs. I'm seriously praying that Disney doesn't try remaking this because it just wouldn't capture the dark tone and themes of the original again. I really love Esmerelda's song it beautifully captures how she has faith in God even though there is so much cruelty in the world. I think one of the coldest lines comes from the movie is in the opening song Bells Of Notre Dame "You can lie to yourself and your minions, you can claim you haven't a qualm, but you can never run nor hide what you've done from the eyes, the very eyes of Notre Dame" there's just something about the opening that leaves me in chills from the puppet of Quasimodo transitioning to him ringing the bells the choir buildup and score makes me wanna cry.
I was a third grade Italian catholic when this movie came out. I had it on VHS in English and would watch it nearly every day for about two summers with the excuse of improving my language skills. Truth was, it was an emotional journey every time. I would catch new details and messages at every rewatch, and it molded who I grew up to be. No other movie will ever top what The Hunchback of Notre Dame meant for me.
Ironically the greatest villian disney ever made had no magic powers or even a backstory. He could (and is) be any person in the world. He could be the leader of a country, a teacher, or a unhoused man on the street...
I find it odd that Walt Disney felt constrained by the family friendly parameters that were set around his movies. Reading the original Grimm Brothers fairy tales, or many of the other stories from the 19th century and before that were written for children, you'll see that many of them went very, very dark. He may not have done it single-handedly, but it seems as if Walt Disney himself played large part in the tonal shift to the lighter material that is now considered the standard for children's stories.
I think part of the problem may have had to do with how Fantasia flopped. He wanted that to be like "the next big thing" a leap forward, bringing together classical music and art, a higher level of sophistication than animation studios had put out. But it wasn't financially successful and the only thing that really helped the studio were the shorts and cheaper packaged films until Disneyland opened. Of course, that was mostly due to the war, but I think that really hindered him and his team from doing anything more "serious" and "sophisticated" again.
It probably has more to do with keeping the movies as marketable as possible bc you have to remember that tie-in merch is a huge part of Disney's profits and branding and it's harder to sell toys related to a darker movie.
Hunchback of Notre Dame has always been and will always be my favorite Disney movie. Even if--or more accurately when--Disney tries to bury the movie and pretend they never produced darker films, I will never forget this cinematic masterpiece Also screw the gargoyles, I never liked those guys as a kid and like them even less in the present day :/
“Durr this movie tonally uneven” Did you even watch the god damn movie? Are there SOME lighthearted moments? Sure, but barely, and they don’t last long very long and only last for 5 minutes and it’s not like the Eddie Murphy’s Haunted Mansion or the highly overrated Cabin In The Woods or the overrated Toy Story 3 where it comes out of nowhere. Now that’s a tonally inconsistent movie for ya. Batman The Animated Series, X-Men The Animated Series, Superman The Animated Series, Spider-Man The Animated Series, Justice League The Animated Series, Batman: Mask of The Phantasm, Gargoyles, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Nightmare Before Christmas, Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Corpse Bride are darker, more adult oriented, intense, sophisticated, and only have a few lighthearted moments here and there, right (Batman The Animated Series, X-Men The Animated Series, Superman The Animated Series, Spider-Man The Animated Series, Justice League The Animated Series, Batman: Mask of The Phantasm, Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Corpse Bride are not Disney, but you get the idea)? I guess they’re tonally inconsistent than. No because they only happen here and there and only last for like five to six minutes. Disney’s Hunchback of Notre Dame DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!!! So, the next time you say it’s “Durr tonally inconsistent” actually watch the damn movie next time. I know movies are subjective and if you didn’t care for the movie and it wasn’t your cup of tea than fine, and I have nothing against that. But to say this movie is tonally inconsistent? I have a hard time taking you seriously. This is definitely more tonally consistent than the overrated Toy Story 3 that's for sure.
Something that I always noticed about Frollo that I haven't heard anyone mention is just how many rings he wears. He has on like 3 rings while the man who runs the church only wears simple white garbs. To me that further displays Frollo's vanity
I loved how they made the city itself a character like they did with the house in encanto. Its very hard to turn a building or a country into a likeable character in of itself.
More than making the city a character, they made the cathedral a character of the movie. That's exactly what Victor Hugo did with the cathedral when he wrote the book. The original name of the book is "Notre Dame de Paris", not "The Hunchback of Notre Dame"
I understand why some viewers dislike the gargoyles but I think they were added to show how Quasimodo invents friends from immobile objects since he is emotionally stunted from his isolated upbringing. Also their goofy song is the comic relief like the grave diggers in Hamlet. While it may seem a bit out of place, it still serves a purpose.
It's my favorite Disney movie, and even the gargoyles don't bother me. They even have interesting quotes and have interesting morals. But unfortunatelly their humor is actually forced and does not fit such a dark story, in another Disney animation these characters would be loved. They really spoil the atmosphere here. But I personally like them anyway, regardless of whether they are part of a cathedral brought to life by God or the result of Quasimodo's vivid imagination, who did not want to feel alone.
I always thought Clopin at the beginning of the movie was actually Clopin from the ending but just telling the whole story. He didn’t know everything during the story but it’s him who is the narrator after the events of the movie took place
I actually enjoyed gargoyles, mostly because they were dubbed pretty well in my home country, they actually have their own charm, the voices are lovely too, especially this grandma-gargoyle's voice. But recently I watched Hunchback of Notre Dame in original, and yeah... I was not quite happy with them either.
This movie is definitely best watched once you’ve become an adult. I first watched it when I was 13 or so and I was totally captured by the gothic setting, but of course I didn’t really understand the plot. Although some parts of the movie are admittedly a bit weak, Esmeralda and Frollo HARD carry this film (Hellfire and God help the Outcasts being of course the best scenes in the movie and arguably contain some of the most complex lyrics in a Disney movie)
This is my favorite Disney movie, period. The second I saw Quasimodo in theaters as a nine-year-old girl back in 1996, I was like, "Him. He's my favorite, everyone else go home." That opinion has never changed, and as I got older, I appreciated this movie more and more. I also appreciate that you acknowledged that it's Hugo that really drags things down, and that Victor and Laverne actually serve a narrative purpose. Victor is a perfect personification of Quasimodo's anxiety, especially when it comes to Frollo, while Laverne is the kind parental figure he needs. Hugo...might be intrusive thoughts? That's my best guess, honestly, but he doesn't really do anything to serve the plot except help the others encourage Quasimodo to sneak out. After that, he's just a distraction from the rest of the movie. I also feel that cutting Hugo out (or at least toning him down several notches - the part where he's playing cards with the birds, then using the cards to showcase how Esmeralda is ahead of Frollo *could* have worked if it stopped right there, and then transitioned to Esmeralda coming in as a sort of, "see? Told you" moment before the gargoyle trio become stone again) would improve the entire movie. Also, I like "A Guy Like You" as a song, I just don't like it in context. I would *happily* cut it out of the movie, but still jam to it on the soundtrack, if that makes sense? It's not a bad song on its own, but it does NOT work in the movie itself. Overall, though, I love everything about this movie from the story to the music to the characters. It's just a shame that the higher-ups had to meddle to make it more "kid friendly".
About the time when the Hunchback of Notre-Dame was released on 1996, Disney was kinda on its peak about darker fantasy stuff including the creation of the Gargoyles TV series to match the tune of WB DC Batman animated series. And overall the darker and serious fantasy trend has started since middle 80s about the time of The Black Cauldron and the Gummi Bears release on TV, and this element kept going on untill after The Hunchback faill on box-office, and then was when Disney stopped to be getting so edgy as then self-restricting itself. Still overall a somewhat wanning dark-themed style and focus remained on Disney even a while after the Huchback of Notre-Dame untill 2001 on Atlantis the Lost Empire being maybe the last with heavy plot elements for mature audiences. But yeah overall the peak of the best of what Disney could have acheived seriously on his animated movies happened with that movie.
@@epache315 Didn´t Warner got its birthday earlier or later than Disney? Maybe they started over earlier about it, as Disney started promoting its 100 aniversary since last year actually. and at another similar aniversary dates the issue lasted even a year later after the actual one so this stuff has been since 2022 and will last on 2024 still too.
Hunchback is my third favorite Disney movie, behind only Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid. If it weren't for those annoying gargoyles, it'd be at the very top.
Ah man, yeah, this is one of my favorites! Possibly would be #1, if not for those damn Gargoyles, especially Hugo! To no one's surprise, we would find out years later that the creatives behind the film were opposed to using the Gargoyles as comic relief, and were opposed to them having a song, with them merely serving as Quasi's inner monologue, and to further show us his isolation and loneliness (in other words, they would only be alive to him). Disney execs, however, forced in comic relief because of the success of Genie and Timon and Pumbaa, and because Disney almost chickened out on making Hunchback entirely. One thing I will give Don Bluth when he was at his best, he respected kids.
I like the Gargoyles and Fuck Dory In Finding Nemo. I'm sorry but I just never understand why people find Dory funny. I'm a fan of Ellen GeGeneres as an actress and I think she can be quite funny if you give her the right material (I hear she's an asshole in real life, but I don't know for sure so I can't comment). But sadly she wasn't given the right material. Not even Joan Rivers can make this role work. Maybe if she were written differently than Ellen could have been great. Do I get the hate for the Gargoyles? Yes and no. “They’re annoying, obnoxious, not funny, They’re too over the top, got on my nerves, they’re cringy, they’re not my cup of tea”. I obviously disagree but that’s perfectly understandable and I feel your pain despite disagreeing with you. That’s how I feel about Dory in Finding Nemo. But if were talking about the god awful than I would agree with you. “They take away the darkness and sacrifice the dark tone” Umm…How? Whether you like them or not hey’re barely in the god damn movie and they don’t get a lot screentime only pop up once in a while.
I really miss when Disney was dark but told amazing its also beautiful art as well. Now it's generation tumor and its so boring now its repetitive. At least dreamworks and Sony gives us good quality storytelling.
@@silver_dusk the last wish is the only real banger since the kung Fu panda trilogy that DreamWorks has had in years, The Spiderverse trilogy is the only real quality Sony animated film or series in equal amount of time, and that has nothing to do with Sony as Phil Lord and Chris Miller are freelance and any company they sign on to will get a banger. What it seems is that we're finding diamonds after sifting through mountains of crap and they are far and few between Meanwhile the bad press and public image and reputation of Disney is what most people and every two bit bob crowd critic and or hack is pandering on the hate train for, in order to get easy clicks and views.
They really should go back to their roots and start adapting classic stories again. I think Frozen was the last movie that was inspired by a classic fairy tale.
This movie is my obsession, and everything thats connected with it, including the original source material. As I was in Vienna in April, seeing the Musical Version live, it was the day of my life, a dream came true and I am now watching towards to the day I can enter Notre Dame again and see her in her glory ❤❤❤
I'm happy i didn't see the Hunchback in 1996 when i was 13, instead, i saw it in 2006, when i could understand the story and the motives behind the character's actions. It sounds strange for me to admit it now, but i fell in love with Frollo! I was literally obsessed to the point i started wearing long black dresses with a purple scarf round my neck. (I'm glad i didn't also wear a hat). The movie spoke to me in so many ways, i related to every one of the main characters: i felt misunderstood and imprisoned like Quasy, i was a strong advocate for social justice like Esme, and having just graduated Theology, i was very much at home around priests, archdeacons and bishops. I could also understand Frollo's inner conflict : piety/ sin, power/corruption, desire to do good without understanding that your idea of good was twisted by life of bitterness, resent, isolation, basically a life spent in a bubble that made you immune to any sign of affection. I believe the real question of the movie is not "Who is the monster and who is the man", but, in fact "Who is the real prisoner who cannot escape?" The tragedy of Frollo is that his prison is built by himself stronger and more isolated every day.
I'm here to say that this movie does not have one of the most grand soundtracks that Disney has to offer, it has The most grand soundtrack in Disney, full stop. 😌
If they do I'm guessing it would... Cast celebrities Make woke characters Make frollo "sympathetic" because he's too evil Remove important lines and scenes and replace them with nonsense Change Esmeralda's character for "female empowerment"
There is a nice little detail showcasing Quasis and Frollos Relationship in the dining scene before the festival. Frollo has apropper Plate and a high and decorated metallic cup while Quasi is using a much smaller, bulkier and simpler woodcup and a cuttingplate
This is my absolute favourite Disney film, has been since I was a child. Yes, it's dark, but you don't notice when you're a child. Also, I will defend Hugo, Victor, and Laverne to the death. Disney always makes loveable supporting characters. They serve as guardian angels to Quasimodo and keep the story from being too depressing
I feel when most people see movies that tackle a religion or specific topic they miss the point due to generalizing things. Frollos problem is he is power hungry and abuses that power as a zealot doing what he wants and blaming Lucifer for his problems of being weak. Plus We see holy man in the story who are cool and normal trying to stop frollo from doing this Mutiple times at the start and even his villain song
If you want to see a darker version of the story with the Disney songs, there is the stage musical that can be seen here on CZcams. It is by far my favorite musical.
@@epache315sorry i find this movie super overrated. It's fanatics just beat it into the ground. Even as a kid i didn't like it. Please don't harass me or call me names just because i don't like this movie
Public: "The Hunchback of Notre Dame is Disney's darkest film". The Black Cauldron: "Am I a joke to you?" It's true that "The Black Cauldron" doesn't have the same quality of animation or music that THoND does, but it is Disney's darkest and most rebellious movie. It was originally supposed to have an R rating for violence. However, the new boss at Disney (I can't remember which one it was) wanted it to be more family-friendly to fit with Disney's image. He personally cut around twelve minutes of the movie because the directors and producers dug their heels in. That's why the animation has a lower quality because the animators had to scramble to fill in the gaps he made.
I’m Slightly Dissapointed when Disney doesn’t have balls to pick The Black Cauldron for Live Action Remakes , Cuz I like they can do Darker Fantasy if they know how to execute it properly
@@shanicestella2226They have recently acquired the full rights to the books and something has been going around that they might make a Game of Thrones like show of it.
I actually liked the gargoyles, if you were to assume that the gargoyles were the figments of Quasi's imaginations. Understandable too, since he's been isolated from the rest of the world for at least 2 decades (not sure how old he is). But what really makes this movie great is the villain -- Frollo. He's such a "love to hate" character, and yet, so logically realistic character. And his own personal struggle is something that the audience can at least see (although not accept). But let's talk about the heroine, Esmeralda. As far as I know, she's the only Disney female character who was genuinely good person with no selfish motives, fighting for those who were less fortunate (which is saying something, since she was a literal beggar). All other Disney characters, they had at least decent well being (at least middle class, by the world's standards). Too many were rich to begin with, and even the "less fortunate" never had to beg to have the next meal. Alone. For her entire life.
Other Disney villains teach that being evil is cool & fun. (Especially in the modern times with Descendants). Judge Claude Frollo on the other hand teaches that being a villain is NOT cool.
I do have a soft spot for this as one of my favorite ambitious Disney renaissance films and lt was released on my day program gal pal’s birthday and on an added note: the middle of the Super Mario 2023 movie feels like a parody of Hunchback right down to the Peaches/Hellfire comparisons
The part I hated about this movie (despite my love FAR exceeding that) is that Quasi is not handicapped at all -- in fact, he's basically super human -- super strong, super fast, and super agile. Esp when you consider that he has a spine that's shaped like a boomerang, meaning he shouldn't be able to muster strength to do anything that requires strength, including things like running, much less even more strenuous activities like climbing up and down a building.
Man I missed Disney movie or animated movie that is dark serious and mature like hunchback of notre dome I wished there be future Disney movie or animated that have darkest and most evil villain like judge frollo
@Aldone have you checked the Stage version of Hunchback Disney did a few years back? It's closer to the original story, they've kept many of the original songs along with new songs, dropped the comedic bits. I think Sheiferrles (I'm sure I spelled it wrong) covered it, but I would like to hear your take on the stage version compared to the animated version. I do enjoy itz still listen to both soundtracks.
@@Katpiratefan275 My most controversial take. I fucking love the Gargoyles and I fucking can't stand Dory in Finding Nemo. And I FUCKING HATE THE GREEK CHOIR IN THE AMERICAN MUSICAL. The gargoyles at least didn't give mindless fucking exposition. Yeah I said it. Sue me. I get the that they weren't funny or they got on people's nerves but I don't understand how they take away the film's darkness. First of all they're the comic relief, what did you expect? Second of all they really don't get a lot of screen time so how they can they take away from the dark tone. If any thing the tone in the shitty American is tonally inconsistent. The humor wasn't funny and the goofy moments last longer then the goofy moments in the 1996 film. Therefore the American musical is tonally off. Not the 1996 film! If you want a darker version of the movie go watch the Berlin stage show in this version: czcams.com/video/xP8cM6QRkA4/video.html My other controversial take is I find the Victor Hugo novel to be boring and pretentious. Quasimodo and Esmeralda weren’t ver likable in the book so when they died i simply didn’t feel a thing. Which also why I find the American Disney production to be highly overrated. In the Berlin Disney stage musical Esmeralda’s death is far more heartbreaking given that she’s a more likable character. Also watch 4Shame’s video on Frollo debunking Schmuckaffrillas myth “Durr Frollo is a one dimensional villain”: czcams.com/video/_UySr6nowdU/video.html
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The Hunchback of Notre Dame is Disney's darkest, most gritty and most adult film that they've ever released. It's such as underrated masterpiece. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I feel like the film would have shot up to perfection status if Disney had leaned hard into the gargoyles being psychological projections and hallucinations of an extremely isolated Quasimodo, but I suppose they couldn't stick to their guns on something that dark, even in this film. It would certainly have explained why most of their jokes were so bad: the only comedy Quasimodo had ever seen was the Feast of Fools.
There is a dark theory about the gargoyles , it's all in his head. They are intense delusions of someone who has spent too much time alone. This could have been reinforced with simple edits. Like at the ending shot , where they make one last joke , just show them motionless.
13:24 Also, sanctuary only lasted 40 days, so Esmeralda would have been turned out eventually, which Frollo would know, and he would exploit her afterwards.
The live action remake in it of itself will be worse than any sin Frollo has done. He literally carries the film. Without him the movie would be complete dogshit. Thats exactly whats gonna happen in the remake
They better not ruin the remake. I think it needs to be even darker without the gargoyles, but then it would probably become Disney’s first R rated movie.
I love this movie! And it got so much deeper and awesome since I've become somewhat of church nerd: This movie is so catholic. It's amazing. The villains characterisation is exactly how the Church would define evil: his pride in his 'rightousness'. His thinking he is better than anyone else, not a sinner in need of Gods mercy and guidance (like a saint would for example). The choir during 'hellfire' singing: 'mea culpa mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, like they are trying to help Frollo see that he has to feel sorry for his own sins, and he runs scared away and gives fault to all but himself why he feels lust... even God. The latin piece about the last day of judgement in the background every time we see Frollo sin, such a great touch! But I really don't like the gargoyles and I hate their song😅
Fascinating Analysis of the Classic Disney animated movie The Hunchback of Notre Dame which is based on the Book of the same name. The characters have very different unique personalities
Hunchback is my favourite Disney movie it never looked away from Mature subject matter such Lust Religion and Discrimination in fact when I first saw this as a kid I was A little scared but my mum watched it with me and the more I watched it the more it became my favourite its to bad the Disney mandates held back from its ture Potential but I still really really love it Not to mention Esmeralda still to this day is my true Disney waifu And frolo still has the best Villain song
There is a little talked about point about this movie and about Disney's Frollo that I'm happy was talked about here. The fact that Disney's Judge Claude Frollo is FAR more evil than the Archdeacon in the novelization and theatrical productions of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and "La Esmaralda".
I would NOT call The Lion King "light-hearted". I mean, it's plot is a Shakespearean murder-and-vengeance story! It's kind of dark when you think about it!
I feel like people take The Lion King for granted because it has Timon and Pumbaa, fart jokes, silly things and ideas, and air headed side characters( aside from Rafiki). The first half, before Mufasa dies feels so child friendly and happy then BOOM dead body, Simba crying out for help, Scars goons sent to kill him. Though it has a light hearted tone in some aspects there are so many deep dark elements at play and it was going to be darker!! Nala was meant to have a brother and he was going to be put in, what they called, a lion concentration camp and she would have to rescue him. This idea was scrapped for being wildly dark though hints of it remain, Scars hyenas doing the march is supposed to be a blatant reference to nazis. There’s an extremely dark theory that Scar ate Mufasa after he died or at least let his hyenas have him and if this is true then Scars end is fitting. It is one of the few movies we get to see a dead body for a long period of time and the child grieving, mourning, crying, going through every stage of denial. If that is light hearted then idk man.
Thank you for your views on this movie. I never catched Frollos redeeming-chances befor. Always glad to hear someones else reflectedopinion. The latin choir orase in tge final and while Paris is burning "Kyrie Eleison" means "Good have Mercy witch ads another beautifull deep and also dark layer to the movie. And the latin prase "Mea Cupla", meanin "My Fault"in the Hellfiresong sung by the red Robes, wich are very simmilar to the Inquisition could reflect Frollos conciouns and also the core of christian believe of Love, Mercy and compassion, wich call against frollos twiszed view of Christian believe from within his heart.
Claude Frollo is the first animated villain I’ve ever seen that was so human in his evilness. An egotistical religious fanatic that doubled as an abuser, a genocidal racist, a monster, and even each of those negative traits had depth. Like his racism, specifically towards Esmeralda (a Brown woman) had was heavy on the sexual fetishism many women of color have been and are, I am certain, familiar with even today. Disney will NEVER allow themselves to be that daring again, especially now where almost every villain is actually secretly a budding hero that just needs a bit of petting and direction. (Eye roll) Disney villains of old, particularly Frollo, my all time favorite, Maleficent (and not that pathetic live action), Scar, Cinderella’s step mother and a few others were evil because they were nasty excuses for humans/living beings.
If i recall correctly the first bellringer of notre dame book, was about the church more than anything, and sparked the concept of monuments. it's moral was "good people, bad people, rich people, poor people. Notre Dame has seen them all and survived them.
Disney doesn't have the guts to be edgy anymore. At least Dreamworks is keeping their edginess.
If any major animation studio made a film today about genocide, racism, and lust, and then targeted it for a younger audience...they'd be in for a world of hurt.
@@OpticalSorcerer all because of political correctness
@@joshualowe959Precisely!
@@joshualowe959 It's good to be respectful to certain topics/concepts when you're making a film with a deep message.
With the exception of the last wish, the bad guys, Megamind, the prince of Egypt, and maybe kung fu panda two DreamWorks has not really been that edgy.
Hunchback is one of the most mature kids films I’ve seen in my life. Man I wish more kids films were like this.
Anime movies do this especially spirited away
To be fair, a lot of kids' films are like this--Disney especially takes on trauma, manipulation, and/or death almost every movie.
The Prince of Egypt is a pretty stellar and mature kid's film as well. Though I think most of the old Disney movies (I know PoE is Dreamworks) were mature, they just presented their maturity in different ways.
@@jaceyking5015 I can't watch PoE without crying--though I'm sad that Stephen Schwartz's commitment to it meant he couldn't do the music for Mulan (not by choice).
1999 kids: Hunchback of Notre Dame is scary,I wish there won't be any movies about this
Adults in 2023: They should show this to kids more often
Back then, Disney wasn't scared to take risks. In terms of Disney's characterization of Frollo, Don Hahn, the producer of Hunchback (who also produced Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, and Atlantis) said that Frollo was based on Ralph Fiennes' portrayal of Amon Goeth in Schindler's List. Keep in mind that Goeth was a real person. As commandant of the Krakow concentration camp, he hated Jews in the same manner that Frollo hated the Romani people. A genocidal sadist who had a Jewish maid he routinely abused while harboring feelings for her. Just like how Frollo was hellbent on exterminating the Romani people but finds himself lusting after Esmeralda. It's one of those compelling stories that holds up and withstands the test of time.
In some ways, "Hunchback" represents the peak of the Disney renaissance. For me there are a couple other films in that era that offer a slightly better overall package. But the highpoints of this one are Disney at its greatest.
This is why I praise movies like this, these are movies you can enjoy as kids and the values they teach is still relevant even years or decades later.
Yes. People need to show kids the classics! Disney Renaissance, Neverending story, Mary Poppins, Last Unicorn, or even going all the way back to Chaplin or even the shorter Melies films all hold up and capture childrens' imaginations to this day.
Values they teach still relevant? you don't mean not getting the girl do you?
@@travisboutilier2220 being rejected is not a value but being able to accept rejection is. respecting woman enough to not grow resentful of them when they reject you, but respecting their autonomy and choices. You don't have to be deformed to get rejected by woman. Quasimodo appreciates the kindness Esmeralda showed him beyond the romantic and sexual side. She enriched his life simply by being there and treating him like a person. treating woman like people is the first step to a healthy relationship and being a person includes making your own choices which in turn includes turning down men even when they are good people. A girl doesn't have to sleep with the nice guy just to prove she isn't a whore. grow up
This has become my favorite movie in the Disney canon not just because of its mature plot and themes, but also the soundtrack and memorable characters. Disney will never make a movie like this again.
Worst part is Illumination’s Mario pretty much parodied it
It did?
@@OrtegaSeason in my opinion it felt like it
@@sllawson6I truly don’t see how you think this, but I respect your opinion.
@@sllawson6 ?
Hunchback of Notre Dame is the most "R-rated" G rated movie of all.
I was going to agree but then I remember in a lot of places, including the UK, Watership Down was rated U (which is comparable to rated G)
Why would they rate this movie G?
@@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613 because the rating system was different in the 90s
A successful live action adaption would be rated R. Family versions of this will never work again.
One thing I’ve always appreciated with this movie, is the tackling of unrequited love. You don’t always get what you want, that’s life. I think children needs to see that. To me, Quasimodo being able to be happy for Esmeralda and Pheobus, and move on from his own feelings, is way more heroic than every main character who ends up in a romantic relationship with the main woman/man.
Well I didn't appreciate that and it's the whole reason I don't like this movie. you should get what you want, it's not fair when you don't, it's makes life miserable. children don't need to see that. Quasimodo should have been mad at and jealous of Phoebus getting Esmeralda instead of him and refuse to move on, it's more heroic to end up in a romantic relationship.
@@travisboutilier2220I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or just a terrible person. I'm leaning towards sarcastic but I've seen so many teash takes online that I cannot be sure.
@@lady_apocalypse178 I am not being sarcastic and I am not a terrible person.
@@travisboutilier2220You've been commenting things like this on other comments to the point this is concerning. You cannot force a person into a relationship, that is SA, plain and simple. The healthiest thing both for you and the person you are atracted to is to just move on. Everyone will get rejected at some point, I have been there too, and it is alright, they just were not he person for you. (Idk if arguing has any point because you are likely to be a troll so I think I will leave it at this.)
@@travisboutilier2220either you are the dumbest troll or the dumbest idiot, pick your poison.
On a “technical” level I like that they incorporated more “shadows” on the characters so they don’t look so “flat”
According to the Art of Hunchback book they added more shadows to show the struggle between light and dark.
The answer to the riddle "who is the monster and who is the man" seems to be completely self-evident by the end the prologue - but it's actually much more layered. Of course Frollo is the monster - morally speaking. But Quasimodo is also the monster - he is Frollo's monster.
Really, there is no fixed definition for what a monster is - it could be anything, and it could look like anything. At its core, a "monster" is something uncanny and threatening. The monster unsettles the beholder because it's something they simply can't define, something that threatens their view of the world, something simultaneously familiar and unfamiliar. Because what makes the monster so uniquely frightening is that it reflects a suppressed aspect of the beholder's personality. Something about themselves that they're unwilling to deal with, that they can't control - and so they project it onto something external, something they can then blame for their problem.
Quasimodo is Frollo's monster - he is physically uncanny to him because he is descended from the gypsies (whom Frollo fears and despises) and is deformed in a way Frollo associates with the devil. He is also uncanny to him because he reflects Frollo's guilt complex. He is the living embodiment of that moment when Frollo killed an innocent woman and tried to drown her child. So he projects his guilt, his self-loathing onto Quasimodo. "You are deformed, and you are ugly." What Frollo really means is that he _himself_ is deformed. He himself is ugly. But that's the part of himself he is terrified of confronting.
Ironically, Frollo dies as he tries to kill Quasimodo - he tries to slay the monster, _his_ monster - and thereby slays himself. Because the monstrosity he sees in Quasimodo comes back to him, it's his own monstrosity.
None of this, of course, is remotely tied to who Quasimodo is as an individual. In fact, anyone or anything could be "the monster," depending on their position in the story. The question isn't who or what the monster is - but who the one observing them is.
An interesting take, though I will say one thing about it that doesn't really affect your analysis.
I don't think Quasimodo actually is descended from the gypsies, at least biologically.
Like, if you look at his parents, and you look at him, it's clear they look nothing alike, his obvious deformities aside, as he is a pale redhead, and they both have brown skin and black hair, and so I think the logical thing to conclude is that Quasimodo wasn't their biological son either.
However, I do have this theory that has no real basis, but was always kinda my assumption based on the information given in the movie.
So my theory is, when Quasimodo was born, he was abandoned by his birth parents due to his deformities, and they decided to place him somewhere, where the gypsies later found him and decided to take pity on him, and raise him as their own.
Why were they trying to get into Paris? Probably for a better life for him or something, idk.
But yeah, that's just my own speculation and has nothing really to do with your analysis, but is something I'd like to point out anyway as a likelihood.
Fun little detail I noticed in the Quart of Miracles song, when Clopin says “any last words?” After pulling on the rope, look behind him. Phebuses rope is untied form the pole and swings. It’s probably the same for Qausi too! Meaning that even if Esmeralda didn’t save them, they’d just fall without being hung! Clopin knew and was playing the most evil prank on them omg 😂😂😂
Oh yeah, cool detail!! That actually sounds like something Clopin would do!!🤣🤣🤣
I can HIGHLY recommend the stage musical-version of it. Not being hindered by the fanily friendliness I think it's closer to the darker vision. Best example being the gargoyles that are a choir and not specific characters. And they are a lot darker...
Frollo:
"You don't want to hurt me Quasimodo."
The Gargoyles whispering in Quasimodo's ear:
"Yes, you do..."
I honestly didn’t care for the Hugo novel and found it to be kind of boring. Which in turn is why I’m not a fan of the American Disney stage musical and find it to be highly overrated.
Quasimodo and Esmeralda aren’t very likable in the American Disney stage musical so when they died I simply did not care or feel anything. The choir narrating everything really got on my nerves. Flight Into Egypt is boring, lame and forgettable. Say what you want about A Guy Like You but it’s a least memorable.
Disney actually did a stage adaptation in Berlin from 1999-2002. It’s a bit closer to the movie story wise but borrows some elements from the Hugo novel A.K.A the good aspects and ideas. The Gargoyles humor is toned down and confirmed to be In Quasimodo’s imagination. Esmeralda actually dies in this. But unlike the American version and the Hugo novel, it’s handled far better and she’s a more likable character. czcams.com/video/xP8cM6QRkA4/video.html
@@MovieEnforcer It's the Berlin one I was referring to. My fault for not being clear but since it is that one that to my knowledge has been used by other theaters since then I consider it the "real version". :)
I LOVE the musical; I’d put it in my top five
There is a reason why I focused my last college paper entirely on this movie, and it goes all the way back to a 6-year-old who thought she knew all the Disney movies. I was literally just watching a compilation of Disney villain defeats on my brother’s computer-and then I see something that actually makes me go “That’s not Disney. It has to be Don Bluth or something.” It was like seeing that creepy firefighter clown from the Brave Little Toaster-only this man was dressed in black. I thought he was just some evil sorcerer from a fantasy movie like the Black Cauldron, but then I look up Frollo’s name and see a *completely different person* . It blew my mind as a kid and it sparked a hyper-fixation that just comes and goes throughout the years. This movie and especially its villain ruined my standards for animated movies for sure, even if the Prince of Egypt is objectively perfect. Sorry for the rambling I’m just still so passionate. 😂
I’m glad this movie is getting more love, happy 27th anniversary Kirk and Gary!
This and Prince of the Egypt are my favorite American animated films and have set the standard for me. No other cartoon movies from the USA come close to the bar these 2 had. I'm sad that they're the exceptions and not the standard that American animated movies aim for. Really wish that Western animation can learn from anime in normalizing mature and dark stories instead of limiting the medium in general to typical children's movies.
That said, I personally only rate PoE slightly higher because the gargoyle scenes were dumb and Frollo appears too much like a stereotypical 1-dimensional villain for someone who's supposed to be just a human with the wrong beliefs. Frollo is my favorite Disney villain for actually being human and complex. He believes what he's doing is right, for the good of Paris and for God. It'll help a lot with his depth if he doesn't always have this evil expression/attitude like a generic villain. His motivation and complexity as a villain is akin to Ramses in Prince of Egypt, but his presentation is akin to the pure evil villains like Jafar and Scar. Mother Gothel is the exact opposite, where she has 1-dimensional villain motivations but doesn't always appear evil like a realistic human being.
Hunchback seriously is one of Disney's most mature and realistic films I've ever seen. Like to the cold opening with Bells of Notre Dame to Frollo's villain song Hellfire and Quasimodo's arc throughout the film with his desire to be apart of the community. I honestly still believe that Out There is one of Disney's greatest protagonist "I Want" songs. I'm seriously praying that Disney doesn't try remaking this because it just wouldn't capture the dark tone and themes of the original again. I really love Esmerelda's song it beautifully captures how she has faith in God even though there is so much cruelty in the world. I think one of the coldest lines comes from the movie is in the opening song Bells Of Notre Dame "You can lie to yourself and your minions, you can claim you haven't a qualm, but you can never run nor hide what you've done from the eyes, the very eyes of Notre Dame" there's just something about the opening that leaves me in chills from the puppet of Quasimodo transitioning to him ringing the bells the choir buildup and score makes me wanna cry.
I was a third grade Italian catholic when this movie came out. I had it on VHS in English and would watch it nearly every day for about two summers with the excuse of improving my language skills. Truth was, it was an emotional journey every time. I would catch new details and messages at every rewatch, and it molded who I grew up to be. No other movie will ever top what The Hunchback of Notre Dame meant for me.
Ironically the greatest villian disney ever made had no magic powers or even a backstory.
He could (and is) be any person in the world. He could be the leader of a country, a teacher, or a unhoused man on the street...
In my opinion that's the reason he is so good.
I find it odd that Walt Disney felt constrained by the family friendly parameters that were set around his movies. Reading the original Grimm Brothers fairy tales, or many of the other stories from the 19th century and before that were written for children, you'll see that many of them went very, very dark. He may not have done it single-handedly, but it seems as if Walt Disney himself played large part in the tonal shift to the lighter material that is now considered the standard for children's stories.
I think part of the problem may have had to do with how Fantasia flopped. He wanted that to be like "the next big thing" a leap forward, bringing together classical music and art, a higher level of sophistication than animation studios had put out. But it wasn't financially successful and the only thing that really helped the studio were the shorts and cheaper packaged films until Disneyland opened. Of course, that was mostly due to the war, but I think that really hindered him and his team from doing anything more "serious" and "sophisticated" again.
It probably has more to do with keeping the movies as marketable as possible bc you have to remember that tie-in merch is a huge part of Disney's profits and branding and it's harder to sell toys related to a darker movie.
Hunchback of Notre Dame has always been and will always be my favorite Disney movie. Even if--or more accurately when--Disney tries to bury the movie and pretend they never produced darker films, I will never forget this cinematic masterpiece
Also screw the gargoyles, I never liked those guys as a kid and like them even less in the present day :/
“Durr this movie tonally uneven”
Did you even watch the god damn movie? Are there SOME lighthearted moments? Sure, but barely, and they don’t last long very long and only last for 5 minutes and it’s not like the Eddie Murphy’s Haunted Mansion or the highly overrated Cabin In The Woods or the overrated Toy Story 3 where it comes out of nowhere. Now that’s a tonally inconsistent movie for ya. Batman The Animated Series, X-Men The Animated Series, Superman The Animated Series, Spider-Man The Animated Series, Justice League The Animated Series, Batman: Mask of The Phantasm, Gargoyles, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Nightmare Before Christmas, Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Corpse Bride are darker, more adult oriented, intense, sophisticated, and only have a few lighthearted moments here and there, right (Batman The Animated Series, X-Men The Animated Series, Superman The Animated Series, Spider-Man The Animated Series, Justice League The Animated Series, Batman: Mask of The Phantasm, Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Corpse Bride are not Disney, but you get the idea)? I guess they’re tonally inconsistent than. No because they only happen here and there and only last for like five to six minutes. Disney’s Hunchback of Notre Dame DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!!! So, the next time you say it’s “Durr tonally inconsistent” actually watch the damn movie next time. I know movies are subjective and if you didn’t care for the movie and it wasn’t your cup of tea than fine, and I have nothing against that. But to say this movie is tonally inconsistent? I have a hard time taking you seriously. This is definitely more tonally consistent than the overrated Toy Story 3 that's for sure.
Something that I always noticed about Frollo that I haven't heard anyone mention is just how many rings he wears. He has on like 3 rings while the man who runs the church only wears simple white garbs. To me that further displays Frollo's vanity
Those rings were symbolic of the positions he held as he took promotions on his way to becoming a judge.
I loved how they made the city itself a character like they did with the house in encanto. Its very hard to turn a building or a country into a likeable character in of itself.
More than making the city a character, they made the cathedral a character of the movie. That's exactly what Victor Hugo did with the cathedral when he wrote the book. The original name of the book is "Notre Dame de Paris", not "The Hunchback of Notre Dame"
Still to this day, my all-time favorite Disney animated film.
I understand why some viewers dislike the gargoyles but I think they were added to show how Quasimodo invents friends from immobile objects since he is emotionally stunted from his isolated upbringing. Also their goofy song is the comic relief like the grave diggers in Hamlet. While it may seem a bit out of place, it still serves a purpose.
It's my favorite Disney movie, and even the gargoyles don't bother me. They even have interesting quotes and have interesting morals. But unfortunatelly their humor is actually forced and does not fit such a dark story, in another Disney animation these characters would be loved. They really spoil the atmosphere here. But I personally like them anyway, regardless of whether they are part of a cathedral brought to life by God or the result of Quasimodo's vivid imagination, who did not want to feel alone.
I love this film so much. It shows Disney could make a sucessful PG-13 animated studio if they wanted.
A love action Hunchback of Notre Dame would be Rated R
@@joshualowe959 I see no reason why Disney's version has to be. It has all the quality of a PG-13 film.
The Lion King, If they put that's delete scene will be PG-13😰
@@karamixon5815 I always wished they used humans instead. It would've been a great form of African culture and representation.
@@OpticalSorcerer like the Broadway play???
I always thought Clopin at the beginning of the movie was actually Clopin from the ending but just telling the whole story. He didn’t know everything during the story but it’s him who is the narrator after the events of the movie took place
I'll never get over that the female gargoyle wasn't named Marie.
R.I.P. David Ogden Stiers and Tony Jay The Archdeacon and Judge Frollo are now in Heaven 😭😢😢😭😢😭😭😢😭😢😢😭
Judge frollo in heaven? Best joke ever.
I actually enjoyed gargoyles, mostly because they were dubbed pretty well in my home country, they actually have their own charm, the voices are lovely too, especially this grandma-gargoyle's voice. But recently I watched Hunchback of Notre Dame in original, and yeah... I was not quite happy with them either.
I genuinely think the scenes of the Gargoyles interacting with the goat and attacking the guards is just part of Quasimodo's imagination
Which language was it?
@@snowangelnc russian
Tbf, they aren't too bad in German either. Quite annoying in the English version 😅
@@lundnberg Laverne was Mary Wickes final role, ash she died during recording.
This movie is definitely best watched once you’ve become an adult. I first watched it when I was 13 or so and I was totally captured by the gothic setting, but of course I didn’t really understand the plot.
Although some parts of the movie are admittedly a bit weak, Esmeralda and Frollo HARD carry this film (Hellfire and God help the Outcasts being of course the best scenes in the movie and arguably contain some of the most complex lyrics in a Disney movie)
Esmeralda shouting "JUSTICE!" to cut Frollo off lives rent-free in my head since I was 5 years old.
This is my favorite Disney movie, period. The second I saw Quasimodo in theaters as a nine-year-old girl back in 1996, I was like, "Him. He's my favorite, everyone else go home."
That opinion has never changed, and as I got older, I appreciated this movie more and more.
I also appreciate that you acknowledged that it's Hugo that really drags things down, and that Victor and Laverne actually serve a narrative purpose. Victor is a perfect personification of Quasimodo's anxiety, especially when it comes to Frollo, while Laverne is the kind parental figure he needs. Hugo...might be intrusive thoughts? That's my best guess, honestly, but he doesn't really do anything to serve the plot except help the others encourage Quasimodo to sneak out. After that, he's just a distraction from the rest of the movie.
I also feel that cutting Hugo out (or at least toning him down several notches - the part where he's playing cards with the birds, then using the cards to showcase how Esmeralda is ahead of Frollo *could* have worked if it stopped right there, and then transitioned to Esmeralda coming in as a sort of, "see? Told you" moment before the gargoyle trio become stone again) would improve the entire movie.
Also, I like "A Guy Like You" as a song, I just don't like it in context. I would *happily* cut it out of the movie, but still jam to it on the soundtrack, if that makes sense? It's not a bad song on its own, but it does NOT work in the movie itself.
Overall, though, I love everything about this movie from the story to the music to the characters. It's just a shame that the higher-ups had to meddle to make it more "kid friendly".
About the time when the Hunchback of Notre-Dame was released on 1996, Disney was kinda on its peak about darker fantasy stuff including the creation of the Gargoyles TV series to match the tune of WB DC Batman animated series. And overall the darker and serious fantasy trend has started since middle 80s about the time of The Black Cauldron and the Gummi Bears release on TV, and this element kept going on untill after The Hunchback faill on box-office, and then was when Disney stopped to be getting so edgy as then self-restricting itself. Still overall a somewhat wanning dark-themed style and focus remained on Disney even a while after the Huchback of Notre-Dame untill 2001 on Atlantis the Lost Empire being maybe the last with heavy plot elements for mature audiences. But yeah overall the peak of the best of what Disney could have acheived seriously on his animated movies happened with that movie.
Warner Bros and Disney are celebrating 100 Anniversaries
@@epache315 Didn´t Warner got its birthday earlier or later than Disney? Maybe they started over earlier about it, as Disney started promoting its 100 aniversary since last year actually. and at another similar aniversary dates the issue lasted even a year later after the actual one so this stuff has been since 2022 and will last on 2024 still too.
Hunchback is my third favorite Disney movie, behind only Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid. If it weren't for those annoying gargoyles, it'd be at the very top.
Ah man, yeah, this is one of my favorites! Possibly would be #1, if not for those damn Gargoyles, especially Hugo! To no one's surprise, we would find out years later that the creatives behind the film were opposed to using the Gargoyles as comic relief, and were opposed to them having a song, with them merely serving as Quasi's inner monologue, and to further show us his isolation and loneliness (in other words, they would only be alive to him). Disney execs, however, forced in comic relief because of the success of Genie and Timon and Pumbaa, and because Disney almost chickened out on making Hunchback entirely. One thing I will give Don Bluth when he was at his best, he respected kids.
I like the Gargoyles and Fuck Dory In Finding Nemo.
I'm sorry but I just never understand why people find Dory funny. I'm a fan of Ellen GeGeneres as an actress and I think she can be quite funny if you give her the right material (I hear she's an asshole in real life, but I don't know for sure so I can't comment). But sadly she wasn't given the right material. Not even Joan Rivers can make this role work. Maybe if she were written differently than Ellen could have been great.
Do I get the hate for the Gargoyles? Yes and no.
“They’re annoying, obnoxious, not funny, They’re too over the top, got on my nerves, they’re cringy, they’re not my cup of tea”. I obviously disagree but that’s perfectly understandable and I feel your pain despite disagreeing with you. That’s how I feel about Dory in Finding Nemo. But if were talking about the god awful than I would agree with you.
“They take away the darkness and sacrifice the dark tone” Umm…How? Whether you like them or not hey’re barely in the god damn movie and they don’t get a lot screentime only pop up once in a while.
I really miss when Disney was dark but told amazing its also beautiful art as well. Now it's generation tumor and its so boring now its repetitive.
At least dreamworks and Sony gives us good quality storytelling.
Ah yes the emoji movie, boss baby and Ruby Gillman teenage cracken really have the epitome of storytelling
@@silver_dusk the last wish is the only real banger since the kung Fu panda trilogy that DreamWorks has had in years,
The Spiderverse trilogy is the only real quality Sony animated film or series in equal amount of time, and that has nothing to do with Sony as Phil Lord and Chris Miller are freelance and any company they sign on to will get a banger.
What it seems is that we're finding diamonds after sifting through mountains of crap and they are far and few between
Meanwhile the bad press and public image and reputation of Disney is what most people and every two bit bob crowd critic and or hack is pandering on the hate train for, in order to get easy clicks and views.
They really should go back to their roots and start adapting classic stories again. I think Frozen was the last movie that was inspired by a classic fairy tale.
This movie is my obsession, and everything thats connected with it, including the original source material. As I was in Vienna in April, seeing the Musical Version live, it was the day of my life, a dream came true and I am now watching towards to the day I can enter Notre Dame again and see her in her glory ❤❤❤
I'm happy i didn't see the Hunchback in 1996 when i was 13, instead, i saw it in 2006, when i could understand the story and the motives behind the character's actions. It sounds strange for me to admit it now, but i fell in love with Frollo! I was literally obsessed to the point i started wearing long black dresses with a purple scarf round my neck. (I'm glad i didn't also wear a hat).
The movie spoke to me in so many ways, i related to every one of the main characters: i felt misunderstood and imprisoned like Quasy, i was a strong advocate for social justice like Esme, and having just graduated Theology, i was very much at home around priests, archdeacons and bishops. I could also understand Frollo's inner conflict : piety/ sin, power/corruption, desire to do good without understanding that your idea of good was twisted by life of bitterness, resent, isolation, basically a life spent in a bubble that made you immune to any sign of affection.
I believe the real question of the movie is not "Who is the monster and who is the man", but, in fact "Who is the real prisoner who cannot escape?" The tragedy of Frollo is that his prison is built by himself stronger and more isolated every day.
I first saw this in my 1st grade classroom when I was 6 or 7.
I love Frollo too
I'm here to say that this movie does not have one of the most grand soundtracks that Disney has to offer, it has The most grand soundtrack in Disney, full stop. 😌
Can’t wait for the Live Action ruined this Dark Masterpiece.
Oh boy, I can't wait...
If they do I'm guessing it would...
Cast celebrities
Make woke characters
Make frollo "sympathetic" because he's too evil
Remove important lines and scenes and replace them with nonsense
Change Esmeralda's character for "female empowerment"
@@gemstone_aquamarine93 There's a strong chance of Josh Gad as Quasimodo.
Bob Iger cancelled this remake
@@saskia3691 really????
Disney Junior aired this movie on October a few years ago, no joke.
There is a nice little detail showcasing Quasis and Frollos Relationship in the dining scene before the festival. Frollo has apropper Plate and a high and decorated metallic cup while Quasi is using a much smaller, bulkier and simpler woodcup and a cuttingplate
The hunchback of Notre Dame is my favorite, Disney movie and Esmeralda is my favorite Disney character
This is my absolute favourite Disney film, has been since I was a child. Yes, it's dark, but you don't notice when you're a child. Also, I will defend Hugo, Victor, and Laverne to the death. Disney always makes loveable supporting characters. They serve as guardian angels to Quasimodo and keep the story from being too depressing
Yep. And I can't wait untill Disney buchers this one too.
I feel when most people see movies that tackle a religion or specific topic they miss the point due to generalizing things.
Frollos problem is he is power hungry and abuses that power as a zealot doing what he wants and blaming Lucifer for his problems of being weak.
Plus We see holy man in the story who are cool and normal trying to stop frollo from doing this Mutiple times at the start and even his villain song
Yesterday was the 27th anniversary of the Hunchback of Notre Dame film release
If you want to see a darker version of the story with the Disney songs, there is the stage musical that can be seen here on CZcams. It is by far my favorite musical.
The background music of this video works really well, it's sounds like a piano version of the bells of Notre Dame in the beginning.
This is by far the darkest Disney movie ever made and I love it ❤
This is a Dark Disney Movie
The Hunchback Of Notre Dame is an amazing Disney movie about the music and Disney animation
@@epache315sorry i find this movie super overrated. It's fanatics just beat it into the ground. Even as a kid i didn't like it. Please don't harass me or call me names just because i don't like this movie
Public: "The Hunchback of Notre Dame is Disney's darkest film".
The Black Cauldron: "Am I a joke to you?"
It's true that "The Black Cauldron" doesn't have the same quality of animation or music that THoND does, but it is Disney's darkest and most rebellious movie. It was originally supposed to have an R rating for violence. However, the new boss at Disney (I can't remember which one it was) wanted it to be more family-friendly to fit with Disney's image. He personally cut around twelve minutes of the movie because the directors and producers dug their heels in. That's why the animation has a lower quality because the animators had to scramble to fill in the gaps he made.
Honestly I like the Black Cauldron. Maybe it's no masterpiece, but I enjoy it.
I’m Slightly Dissapointed when Disney doesn’t have balls to pick The Black Cauldron for Live Action Remakes , Cuz I like they can do Darker Fantasy if they know how to execute it properly
@@shanicestella2226They have recently acquired the full rights to the books and something has been going around that they might make a Game of Thrones like show of it.
The line that Cloppin says before he "hangs" Thebus
"We find you totally innocent, which is the worst crime of them all." Is actually so deep.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is my second favorite Disney movie next to Mulan
I actually liked the gargoyles, if you were to assume that the gargoyles were the figments of Quasi's imaginations. Understandable too, since he's been isolated from the rest of the world for at least 2 decades (not sure how old he is).
But what really makes this movie great is the villain -- Frollo. He's such a "love to hate" character, and yet, so logically realistic character. And his own personal struggle is something that the audience can at least see (although not accept).
But let's talk about the heroine, Esmeralda. As far as I know, she's the only Disney female character who was genuinely good person with no selfish motives, fighting for those who were less fortunate (which is saying something, since she was a literal beggar). All other Disney characters, they had at least decent well being (at least middle class, by the world's standards). Too many were rich to begin with, and even the "less fortunate" never had to beg to have the next meal. Alone. For her entire life.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is my favorite Disney film! I've always felt that it was one of the most underrated animated films.
Other Disney villains teach that being evil is cool & fun. (Especially in the modern times with Descendants). Judge Claude Frollo on the other hand teaches that being a villain is NOT cool.
1 of Disney's most ambitious efforts, to be sure.
Happy 27th Anniversary of Disney's The Hunchback Of Notre Dame 📽🎞🎬🔔
One of their greatest and most underrated film. My favorite too.
Frollo is the monster, Quasimodo is the man.
I love Frollo
@Flizz0 Me too Judge Frollo Holy Hellfire! ❤️🖤💜🔥
Seriously one of the best Disney movies ever
Not to me it isn't cause Quasimodo doesn't end up with Esmeralda, to me, that ruins the whole movie.
I do have a soft spot for this as one of my favorite ambitious Disney renaissance films and lt was released on my day program gal pal’s birthday and on an added note: the middle of the Super Mario 2023 movie feels like a parody of Hunchback right down to the Peaches/Hellfire comparisons
The part I hated about this movie (despite my love FAR exceeding that) is that Quasi is not handicapped at all -- in fact, he's basically super human -- super strong, super fast, and super agile. Esp when you consider that he has a spine that's shaped like a boomerang, meaning he shouldn't be able to muster strength to do anything that requires strength, including things like running, much less even more strenuous activities like climbing up and down a building.
The leaves around the screen makes the movie even better
'Out There' was my no.1 audition song. I love THBOND
Man I missed Disney movie or animated movie that is dark serious and mature like hunchback of notre dome I wished there be future Disney movie or animated that have darkest and most evil villain like judge frollo
This movie literally changed my life!
@Aldone have you checked the Stage version of Hunchback Disney did a few years back? It's closer to the original story, they've kept many of the original songs along with new songs, dropped the comedic bits. I think Sheiferrles (I'm sure I spelled it wrong) covered it, but I would like to hear your take on the stage version compared to the animated version. I do enjoy itz still listen to both soundtracks.
Schaffrillias?
@@sweetparriz yes him!
@@Katpiratefan275 My most controversial take. I fucking love the Gargoyles and I fucking can't stand Dory in Finding Nemo. And I FUCKING HATE THE GREEK CHOIR IN THE AMERICAN MUSICAL. The gargoyles at least didn't give mindless fucking exposition. Yeah I said it. Sue me. I get the that they weren't funny or they got on people's nerves but I don't understand how they take away the film's darkness. First of all they're the comic relief, what did you expect? Second of all they really don't get a lot of screen time so how they can they take away from the dark tone. If any thing the tone in the shitty American is tonally inconsistent. The humor wasn't funny and the goofy moments last longer then the goofy moments in the 1996 film. Therefore the American musical is tonally off. Not the 1996 film!
If you want a darker version of the movie go watch the Berlin stage show in this version: czcams.com/video/xP8cM6QRkA4/video.html
My other controversial take is I find the Victor Hugo novel to be boring and pretentious. Quasimodo and Esmeralda weren’t ver likable in the book so when they died i simply didn’t feel a thing. Which also why I find the American Disney production to be highly overrated. In the Berlin Disney stage musical Esmeralda’s death is far more heartbreaking given that she’s a more likable character.
Also watch 4Shame’s video on Frollo debunking Schmuckaffrillas myth “Durr Frollo is a one dimensional villain”: czcams.com/video/_UySr6nowdU/video.html
My idea for a Video Why are Past Disney Box Office Failure are Iconic but Now with Movies like Elemental Strange World and mars need moms are forgotton in the sands of time
good video Adlone Keep Up the Good Work
Mars Needs Moms is somewhat remembered as a terrible movie with hideous animation.
Hunchback is One of My top 6 favorite Disney movies. 5:52 Its up there with “Circle of life.”
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is Disney's darkest, most gritty and most adult film that they've ever released. It's such as underrated masterpiece. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Yes it is all that, which makes it interesting, but it still disappoints me cause Quasimodo doesn't get the girl.
One of my favorites :))
I feel like the film would have shot up to perfection status if Disney had leaned hard into the gargoyles being psychological projections and hallucinations of an extremely isolated Quasimodo, but I suppose they couldn't stick to their guns on something that dark, even in this film. It would certainly have explained why most of their jokes were so bad: the only comedy Quasimodo had ever seen was the Feast of Fools.
There is a dark theory about the gargoyles , it's all in his head.
They are intense delusions of someone who has spent too much time alone.
This could have been reinforced with simple edits.
Like at the ending shot , where they make one last joke , just show them motionless.
This is my favorite Disney movie of all time and Frollo being my favorite Disney villain 🖤💜❤️🤍❤️🔥😈🙏🏻
I loved hunchback of nonte dame and I still love it, it’s a classic!
This movie was released in my birthyear i love this movie so mutch ❤i love everything about it and yes i love the Gargoyles as well.
13:24 Also, sanctuary only lasted 40 days, so Esmeralda would have been turned out eventually, which Frollo would know, and he would exploit her afterwards.
The live action remake in it of itself will be worse than any sin Frollo has done. He literally carries the film. Without him the movie would be complete dogshit. Thats exactly whats gonna happen in the remake
They better not ruin the remake. I think it needs to be even darker without the gargoyles, but then it would probably become Disney’s first R rated movie.
Well I don't care, as long as Quasimodo ends up with Esmeralda, then it's fine.
@@travisboutilier2220 i hope you are being sarcastic
@@Pokeninja7 I'm not
@@travisboutilier2220 Oh honey. You are in for a storm then.
I friggin love this movie!
Lion King is one of the least lighthearted Disney movies
I love this movie!
And it got so much deeper and awesome since I've become somewhat of church nerd:
This movie is so catholic. It's amazing.
The villains characterisation is exactly how the Church would define evil: his pride in his 'rightousness'. His thinking he is better than anyone else, not a sinner in need of Gods mercy and guidance (like a saint would for example).
The choir during 'hellfire' singing: 'mea culpa mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, like they are trying to help Frollo see that he has to feel sorry for his own sins, and he runs scared away and gives fault to all but himself why he feels lust... even God.
The latin piece about the last day of judgement in the background every time we see Frollo sin, such a great touch!
But I really don't like the gargoyles and I hate their song😅
This is my favorite film of all time.
Fascinating Analysis of the Classic Disney animated movie The Hunchback of Notre Dame which is based on the Book of the same name. The characters have very different unique personalities
Watching this at my workspace with my Clopin figurine next to the pc
Hunchback is my favourite Disney movie it never looked away from Mature subject matter such Lust Religion and Discrimination in fact when I first saw this as a kid I was A little scared but my mum watched it with me and the more I watched it the more it became my favourite its to bad the Disney mandates held back from its ture Potential but I still really really love it
Not to mention Esmeralda still to this day is my true Disney waifu
And frolo still has the best Villain song
When Judge Frollo Sniffs Esmeralda's Hair I Usually Gasped
With all thats going on today Hunchback is still so relevant. My favorite Disney movie.
The part when Judge Frollo Throws The Archdeacon Down stairs that was very mean
13:21 Oh My God! How Dark Is This Disney Movie Man!
“It’s my favorite Disney animated feature”
One minute later
“CHLO-PIN”
C’mon dude.
I really liked this movie to the point I did a scene for my monologue in theater class
There is a little talked about point about this movie and about Disney's Frollo that I'm happy was talked about here. The fact that Disney's Judge Claude Frollo is FAR more evil than the Archdeacon in the novelization and theatrical productions of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and "La Esmaralda".
I would NOT call The Lion King "light-hearted". I mean, it's plot is a Shakespearean murder-and-vengeance story! It's kind of dark when you think about it!
I feel like people take The Lion King for granted because it has Timon and Pumbaa, fart jokes, silly things and ideas, and air headed side characters( aside from Rafiki). The first half, before Mufasa dies feels so child friendly and happy then BOOM dead body, Simba crying out for help, Scars goons sent to kill him. Though it has a light hearted tone in some aspects there are so many deep dark elements at play and it was going to be darker!! Nala was meant to have a brother and he was going to be put in, what they called, a lion concentration camp and she would have to rescue him. This idea was scrapped for being wildly dark though hints of it remain, Scars hyenas doing the march is supposed to be a blatant reference to nazis. There’s an extremely dark theory that Scar ate Mufasa after he died or at least let his hyenas have him and if this is true then Scars end is fitting. It is one of the few movies we get to see a dead body for a long period of time and the child grieving, mourning, crying, going through every stage of denial. If that is light hearted then idk man.
Thank you for your views on this movie. I never catched Frollos redeeming-chances befor. Always glad to hear someones else reflectedopinion.
The latin choir orase in tge final and while Paris is burning "Kyrie Eleison" means "Good have Mercy witch ads another beautifull deep and also dark layer to the movie.
And the latin prase "Mea Cupla", meanin "My Fault"in the Hellfiresong sung by the red Robes, wich are very simmilar to the Inquisition could reflect Frollos conciouns and also the core of christian believe of Love, Mercy and compassion, wich call against frollos twiszed view of Christian believe from within his heart.
22:43 It's Over Judge Frollo
Disney made a musical out of this movie that's even more darker than the movie because it ends where Esmeralda dies.
Claude Frollo is the first animated villain I’ve ever seen that was so human in his evilness. An egotistical religious fanatic that doubled as an abuser, a genocidal racist, a monster, and even each of those negative traits had depth. Like his racism, specifically towards Esmeralda (a Brown woman) had was heavy on the sexual fetishism many women of color have been and are, I am certain, familiar with even today. Disney will NEVER allow themselves to be that daring again, especially now where almost every villain is actually secretly a budding hero that just needs a bit of petting and direction. (Eye roll) Disney villains of old, particularly Frollo, my all time favorite, Maleficent (and not that pathetic live action), Scar, Cinderella’s step mother and a few others were evil because they were nasty excuses for humans/living beings.
I think another villain in this story is also the townspeople, though they are redeemed by the end
I agree.
The wicked queen in Snow White was just ...bad.
She didn't need a reason, she just was...
I really needed the comic relief from hugo, i mean, did you hear youself telling the story of this movie? It's just too much. We need a laugh
I love this movie do much
26:00-28:00 They could do a 2D/3D animated film with musical numbers for The Brothers Karamazov. That would be so awesome.
If i recall correctly the first bellringer of notre dame book, was about the church more than anything, and sparked the concept of monuments. it's moral was "good people, bad people, rich people, poor people. Notre Dame has seen them all and survived them.