Terminal Lucidity of the Masculine
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Wow. I really do believe this is a groundbreaking perspective presented here in this video, and honestly just watching this video alone has motivated me a lot to continue pushing through despite our cultural times just as these vids always do. As I observe around me the men and women increasingly falling prey to this enantiodromia process there is still hope and there is still time, and this channel for me is evidence of that. It also really serves for me as a call to action to stand firm ground against this negative cultural katabasis you could say. I feel deeply from within that this minority of people who maintain this ground will see change if we continue to do so incrementally, and I think if we're determined we might be able to turn things around again where they are sick and have gone wrong, truly.
Blessings, @scottygarner4670, Pauline and I are proud to have you as a student. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
2022 was one of my worst years,
On the Christmas holidays I found one of your videos and then spent a few weeks watching many others.
2 months into 2023 and it's already one of my best years, in no small part thanks to this channel
I've regained my power, and I'm now a pillar to those around me.
thank you🙏
Blessings and Respect, @callumbaker6152, the future, and its horizon, are yours. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
I seriously need to weigh in on this one...stay tuned
I've been searching for answers related to this kind of information in order to figure out how to adapt, and how to relate properly within what's happening. I've been stuck in this liminal space - for all my life to some degree from never really being able to find my place or identify with things the way other people do - and in recent years I get an overwhelming pressure of frustration with a distinct sense of slowly dying, and all I can think to do is to accept what's happening, keep learning about this information to expand my adaptability/consciousness. While externally, continuing to connect with like minded people while trying to stabilize myself within the socio-economic reality I face. In a sense I feel like I've been preparing for this my whole life.
Eternally grateful for your work! Thank you! 🙏
I know exactly what you mean; spending your whole life trying to adapt and make sense of a culture that now clearly doesn't have your best interests in mind at all. Find the Self, that's all I've been focusing on this year myself. And don't be too hard on yourself ♥
Blessings and Respect @robertdabob8939, thank you for sharing your hard won insights, from your journey. Thanks too, for your ongoing support for our channel, and the work. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Hi @Mocool68, the opportunity for collective-field change, is imminent. Good people will 'know' and communicate within that field. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Psychoanalysis is an art.
Hi @hiperventilat8064, indeed it is, and the true author of that art communes through the otherwise coincidental person of the artist. Kindest Regards, Steve
Thank you Steve, Pauline and James. A deeply sobering presentation. From the deeper levels of being I agree we are on the brink. The frightening aspect is the sleep walking politicians, going with the Spirit of these times. None of them are vigilant enough because they are too proud to ever be wise.
Hi again, @addict99100, shoulder to shoulder... 'Fellow Labourer in the Vineyard of The Human Soul'. Kindest Regards, Steve
We will survive and, God willing, we will conquer. Only we few though. The many will parish in their apathy, lost to eternity... but we few will make the world anew.
Thank you very much for giving this beautiful insight for free. Im 19 years old and have been in a state of chaotic confusion on and off for the past two years. I listen to these videos and they give me hope; I hope one day to be in as sublime a state as James, Steve, and Pauline.
Blessings, @gfepsh, Respect to You and for Your Journey, Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
I'm only 14 minutes in and overcome (in a good way) by affect and the implications of 2 things said so far. The first was "women are the context for men". I hope Steve goes into more detail further in this video; otherwise here's a sneak preview of of my next seminar question :D. The other thing that struck me was his statement re internet evolutionary biologists' lack of understanding re: field phenomenon, psychology beyond stale, reductionist models; and psychology's superposition w/ one's biology, social environment and the 'field' simultaneously. It occurred to me how Dr. Anthony Stevens is an exception to this and one of my goals for this weekend was to articulate what Dr. Stevens has contributed to my own professional development. A stack of his books are sitting next to me as I write. But instead of 'working on it' I started this morning with some creative writing. And then instead of 'working on it' I felt compelled to listen to this video and 💥! After an hour and 14 minutes of 'procrastination' , w/o cracking open any of Dr. Steven's books, I am crystal clear on what I have to say. If I'm not mistaken, this may have been super-positioning in real time.
Wow, so many synchronicities have constellated in recent days for me and this video was the cherry on top. The amount of objective insights you guys provide have truly been life changing for me and I'm grateful to be a part of this community.I have felt the maladaptation of the masculine in myself and others. Becoming more conscious is truly the key so us brave souls can light the way forward. From the bottom of my heart, thank you 💜
Hi again, @alexisv3945, thanks so much for your deeply insightful comment, and sharing it with us all here. Our Respect & Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
This is wonderful. Profound synthesis beyond simply evolutionary biology. Thank you for sharing this wisdom.
Hi @bigsky4123, thank you for your kind comment, and thanks too for your support for the channel, over this last year. Blessings and Respect, Steve & Pauline
Been away for a while, but got to the video today and it was top notch as always. Great to see all 3 of you doing well! As a young man battling with life struggles myself, I've been undergoing a latent depression for quite some time, still trying to find myself and with the culture, gender and social wars going on, the shit testing and constant battering from social media has not helped. Here's hope for young men like myself that we find the way forward! Because we matter.
Hi again, @DanielJoseph97, great to hear from you again. Thanks so much for your kind comment. You'll get through, you're a 'Fellow Laborer, in The Vineyard of The Human Soul.' Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Thank you for sharing this discussion. Your analysis of the global situation is characteristically sharp and very helpful for young men like myself who find ourselves having to make difficult choices we were socialised into believing we would never have to.
Blessings @robertc-w2027, the time to be aware, is now more than ever. Thank You for your ongoiung support for the channel, and sharing your valuable understanding, with us all, Kindest regards, Steve & Pauline
Thank you 🙏 all.This means a great deal to me. Something I have also consciously watched develop and warned against. I agree entirely with the views put forward here and can be explained through many different modalities. (Your superpositioning concept) However, what Is lacking is practical solutions that James tentatively enquired towards but, yes ultimately we must find them in ourselves .
Hi again ernestberry-songsrestored56, thanks for your comment and continued support or the channel. Progress needs to incremental. Firstly, the realisation of what is actually happening, which takes time to really engage with. Then, there’s the understanding that ‘practical solutions’ will be resisted, by those catabolic elements that will only ramp up in intensity, the closer things move towards a potential reversal point. Then, of course, there’s simply time constraints for a video. Longer videos may not be watched through and important points missed. Kindest Regards, Steve 🙏
Thank you you three for this video. As ever, a very important video and opportunity for us (viewers, students, professionals, men and woman) to digest and reflect. My experience as a man reflects many of the things spoken about in this video. These are very testing times for the masculine spirit. It can be a pretty sad and tragic picture to look at from certain angles. If humanity can somehow get through this, I am sure we will learn. It shouldn't have had to get this bad. To be honest, as someone who has stuck to his guns (in life) - and suffered for it in many ways - it has been easy for me to feel angry at the apathy and laziness, vacuity, denial and stupidity I have witnessed these past 12+ years of my adult life. While i am aware that i myself have certain things to work on re my relating function and am far from perfect, I could never have imagined how much of a mess humanity was when I was a child (re anticipation). The saddest part for me seems to be that everyone will suffer if disaster comes to pass. The tide will not discriminate. I really hope that doesn't happen. Humanity is better than what it has been. My own self included.
Thank you again Steve and Pauline for your work and legacy. And thank you James for being such a fantastic host 🙏
Blessings, @zero-tension3180, thank you once again for your very considered and thoughtful contributions. We think that there can be no doubt that these contemporary times are truly historic, with a unique configuration of challenges. The catabolic field-strength is showing signs of a potential reversal, being imminent. Hence the forces driving things into collapse are no longer concealing themselves, and we can see that the political actors aren't individual agents, as such. Rather, they're being tested every bit as much as everyone else. Their inflation, is the real danger, just as Jung predicted, of his times. When a field reverses (as in for example the Earth's magentic field) there's a period of apparent chaos, before an equlibrium point is restored. The main thing now is to be as prepared as is possible, for the reversal. There are signs that the reversal has indeed started. The collective field is turbulent, but a realignment is configuring. A point of great potential danger, but also of opportunity. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Pauline. I had such a vivid dream about you two days ago, I don't dream a lot, and this one stuck. I was a guest in your home, and I found a chest of old jewellery, that you didn't know existed, all tangled up. I sorted it all out, into brooches, necklaces, bangles etc, then gave it to you. You were so happy. 🥰
Hi again @fionaparker, thank you for sharing, I'm sure that the jewels are meant for you, but I'm blessed that your dream should include my image. My Respect to the Psyche, and to You! Best Wishes, Pauline
@@JungToLiveBy 🌻🌻🌻
I just have a deep connection with something else James has said in a past video. The video I'm referring to is "A Jungian Antidote to the Red Pill/Black Pill" (8:21-8:55). Where James explains he dreams of Lilith and is told, "Wake up!" (I'm paraphrasing here). It felt like the wildest synchronicity I've had; rather than picking this video to rewatch again, I chose "A Jungian Antidote...". Then it happened to connect to this video. These videos are completely and utterly beautiful, and I'm still as grateful as I was two years ago. Thanks to the Jungle to Live By team, and I hope you guys are having an amazing rest of your day.🙏
Hi again, @guereca7178, how extremely kind of you, we're all very happy that you;re making such insightful progress. Our Kindest Regards, and Best Wishes, Steve & Pauline
All your videos are priceless. I've never enjoyed youtube so much!
Thanks so much for your kind words savoirfaire6181, they're really appreciated 🙏 All the best, James
Hi again @savoirfaire6181, that's very kind and hugely appreciated, Warmest Wishes, Pauline & Steve
The field might be working against the breeding of great character, but there are beneficial pockets within the field, I'm sure. It seems that this positive register is the ultimate regulation force, led by some deviants who won't make compromises to what they are, to bring cognition, affect, sensory perception and soma into sync on an evolutionary scale.
Just top notch! The psychology of the herd & their inability to see the wolves in sheep’s clothing is spot on.Your positive messages of becoming conscious -wake up , remember , that’s it 🙏
Hi again, @@adamandeve1712, thanks so much for sharing your insight, its a great help to us all. Respect and Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
This is reminiscent of the universe 25 experiment with mice 1968-1973
I though the same when watching, Also reminds me of Dune by Frank Hebert, in respect to the deeper species wide genetic consciousness pushing for its agenda.
Things are indeed dire, it's genuinely hard to watch once you become aware of it. Especially if you see people, who have the tools to understand it, not getting it, as Steve said. Your work has been a guiding light in understanding and navigating these increasingly chaotic and absurd times (which is nonetheless difficult to say the least) . This channel and the community forming around it give reason for hope, however. Im praying for everyone who's trying to resist the pressure. There is so much that is worth preserving, it would be such a shame if it all went downhill. Kindest regards and many thanks for the continuing high quality content on this channel
Hi again, @iHomer0007, thanks so much for sharing your very keen insights and for your ongoing support for the channel and our work. You are de-facto, part of this community, and we're proud of that fact. Repsect, and Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
@@JungToLiveBy Thank you for the kind and confirming words, they mean a lot.
Thanks JTLB, I had a poingiant yet somehow hopeful feeling whilst watching; I've certainly felt the blinkered 'call to arms' and the adjacent pressure from the culture in terms of this sort of masculinity. Its scary how strong it is.
Building networks based In this sort of awareness has to be part of the answer.
Thank you all for the content 🙏
Blessings @thegreatgriff, thank you for sharing your insight, with us all here. The field-effect moving towards a 'reversal' is gaining strength, and distrubting itself, widely. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
A lot to say about this video, and lots to take in. Thank you. I was mindlessly scrolling tiktok the other night when I saw a video that stopped me in my tracks. It was a video, about someone scrolling on tiktok, video after video, until they hit a video of Jocko Willick, saying, "You have made, no progress. None". The woman moved her thumb to scroll, but chose not to, and put the phone down. Low, lonely, discordant beats played as she stared, with horrible audio tracks overlaid. One of these audios, those most relevant to themes of your video, was, "I think an atheist.... gets to lean into the idea that when they close their eyes and breathe their last breath, it stops. And I just think thats a big gamble man, and I don't mean because you go to hell, I mean.... how nice would that be!? If it just stopped!" These montages, and audios, were common, but when I first saw them some time ago they had very little likes, and views, they weren't mainstream. Do you want to guess how many people saw, and how many people liked, this video? Within 10 days, this video has 5 and a half million views, and 1.4 million likes. A video like this whose final audio is just unarticulated agonized screaming, is that resonant among my generation. I began to think, this really is mainstream, this is real, and what are the consequences of this, what's coming? I know at least, and see you agree, that this can't last. After this video, strangely, I don't feel so bad about it, I feel inspired, and understand it more in this collective entropy, this thanatos.
Hi again, @magikman3586. ‘Archetypes' minus their instinctive context have no meaning. Meaning is the ultimate motivator. In an emergency, there are no archetypes (they appear later, as representations of superpositioned factors) but there are instincts. Meta-instincts provide the context that organises the genome's delivery of the activation chain: gene expression - Pankseppian instinct - Meta-Instinct- Affect - Meaning - Action in the World. Cognition (intellectualisation) is properly an 'after-thought'. So long as the activation chain, lines-up, by a sense of connected superpositioning, the right action, and result, will follow. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
This reminded me that however waken up I might consider myself to be, I'm still part of the herd, and stupidity is still there just waiting for a chance to appear. Different day, same shit... test.
We need more powerful souls like you 3. In a time where the world is going mad and being fooled by evil(unconsciousness) those who are conscious are the bearers of light and a hope for the future. People are stuck in ideologies, constructs and illusions of all kind. They are identified with their intellect and possessed by their instincts. The nature of instincts makes it so that people don’t want to face them but runaway from them. This attempt to run away from instincts creates external chaos which is only a product of chaos in the psyche of individuals. Mind programming and the new pseudo progressive ideologies directly attack the fundamental male instincts which are intimidating in nature both for men themselves and also for a culture that brainwashed woman into thinking that being “strong and independent” is honorable for them but the problem is that this is an illusion which is not in alignment with fundamental female instincts. So the identity(ego,superego) is at war with the instincts(id) which can only lead to misery and catastrophe. This is a product of past pathological expression of masculinity in the form of the authoritarian dogmatic rulership of the church for thousands of years and thus, through enantiodromia the feminine principle has rebelled through the social movement of woman’s empowerment. The pathology here is that the concept of equality between man and woman is not in alignment with instincts. The concept of being “equal” is a social one which does not align with human nature. But a failure to acknowledge our nature does not make it go away but instead pathologizes it’s expression because of a split between logos and Eros. The devil being the one who separates and fragments is having its way right now.
Archetypes are playing out in the collective through individuals that act as unconscious vessels of ideas and thought forms. Evil spirits are possessing people and are creating havoc in the collective and the key to freeing the world from this madness is CONSCIOUSNESS so that people, in touch with their fundamental selves , stop being possessed by forces they do not understand and instead connect with their fundamental natures primarily instinctive and connect with the most healthy and aligned aspects of it and also their divine or transcendent natures and bring heaven and earth together. As we speak, not only is the devil doings it’s job BUT there is still many fellow conscious souls that are helping the collective awaken and we need to do this ourselves(which you are doing an amazing job at with your channel).
True masculine and feminine equality is about alignment of our being with our instincts and aligning the intellect and identity with our fundamental nature in a functional manner in the context of society. The past of pathological masculine expression makes it so that the WHOLE of masculinity is being demonized and rejected and for this same reason we now have compensatory movements of man that act as a response to the dogma of the so called “woke”. And so, polar opposites are entering a war with no end because polarity creates only more polarization until we reach a point of absolute catastrophe.
If we want to avoid that we mush bring consciousness to the collective and humans MUST wake up out of their ideological madness into unity with the Self or else we could witness very ugly things going forward. It is our job to shine our light, and by being aligned with ourselves, inspire other souls to align with the most adaptive expression of their instincts. We must embody the divine and most glorious, healthy and integrated version of our respective instincts in order to show the world the natural harmony that this will lead to. If humans keep going down this road of chaotic slumber being attached to false ideas and being brainwashed into tribal thinking and waging war on those who they falsely identify to be their ennemies under the illusion of the separate self what we will witness is an unmitigated catastrophe. So again we need to show the example and inspire sleeping souls to awaken. Keep fighting and shining your light no matter the darkness floating over society. And above all, we must stand together as conscious individuals.
I think there's a lack of definitive definition of what you guys mean by singularity. The extinction of humanity? The collapse of civilization? I'm assuming you mean the former since the collapse of civilization would be a near-death experience, although one pretty close to death. I think there can be near-deaths at different levels as well, I feel like we'll have more than one crossroads when going towards extinction, each leaving us with a worse outcome than the one before it. For example, the death of 80%, or even 99% of human population could still be a near death experience, provided humanity springs back and succeed in rebuilding.
Edit: Alright, Steve answers my question about the definition of the singularity at around 15 minute mark.
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Once you grasp the insights here - should you wish to - there's such explanatory power available; and an opportunity to transcend the continual polarities that a culture struggling to make sense to itself throws up. Understand how the 'field' operates through the collective on deep levels (biological, psychological & social) and you will have the right tools to frame what's happening now - without 'collapsing' into 'conspiracy theories' or various associated polarities. Absolutely brilliant work guys, and personally very resonant. I'm super grateful.
Blessings, @jamesdrew6024, thanks for sharing. As ever, your life experience informs this subject, very well indeed. Respect and Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Having experienced this lucidity within my own context I agree it's like a near-death experience and it's shocking. Thankfully there is still time collectively to turn it around. This video hits close to home. 🙏
Blessings, @jakeford8916, there is indeed still time, and you will be part of the renaissance... Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Beautiful episode in a morbid way.
I really love the discussion relating to world events and politics from a psychological view, very interesting and enlightening
Hi again @95TurboSol, thanks for your very encouraging comment. We'll be exploring this and related topics again very soon. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
I’m one of the darwianian failures I’m married and haven’t reproduced. My wife has long term illness but if I’m honest with myself I never cared enough to have children and don’t regret it, I have only just enough strength to look after myself and my wife.
Hi again, paulatreides7577, you are NOT one of the Darwinian failures, just the opposite. Your love and care for your Lady Wife and your principled choice over deciding not to have children, both transcend reductive and catabolic dynamics, and even the compensations that arise against them. Respect, Blessings, and Love, to you Both. Steve & Pauline 🙏🙏
@@JungToLiveBy Thanks for your kojd words blessings to you two
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I discovered this channel in my youth at 16 years of age. I've gonna through the fall, rise and then fall once again. And then a couple of more times. Sometimes I feel lost in this world, the interia of my past and of my family (separation), and breaking down multiple times. In metaphor,, "losing my life" or that connection to it. Yet, I have nothing but 'hope' left for the world and myself. I get back up and look towards the future, even if it feels numb. It doesn't matter where I might land or go too. But, here in this community, I see a simple calling of people trying there absolute best to live and wake up again (with the help and support of outstanding individuals within this channel and the cadre of students and teachers). To understand 'meaning' and see the future. You guys are doing something way beyond my own understanding. In due time, (hopefully) I'll be ready to understand and stand with a humble heart. I remember crying at my worst times/breaking down and what kept me sane were the smiles of others around me, a happy couple walking with each other, a family inviting me to play with them, and seeing myself as part of these people. Maybe I've have been alone for sometime now, because of this journey. And the certain things I can't readily explain to others in my context. Now, more than ever the future seems so much important than the past. So I just want to thank you guys for the help and opportunity. Grateful as always 🙏
Blessings, @guereca7178 the world needs good people who are committed to self-development in the service of others. Respect to You and for Your Journey, Steve & Pauline 🙏🙏
Let’s get to work, bros. Good work JTLB
Cheers, @TurtlePower718, Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Wow, as someone joining the military, I'm questioning everything. I'm only joining for a place to live and potentially acquire enough money to join the next Cadre.
Thanks for the video though 👍
Despite this being a difficult topic to discuss, this conversation desperately needed to take place! Thank you for having the courage to share your thoughts.
In a way, it's reassuring to know that the world's degeneracy is truly as severe as I thought. With all the mainstream propaganda/noise, I used to question whether or not my beliefs were blown out of proportion. I could not understand how nonsense continued to be accepted at the collective level, but your analysis around 30:00 is all I needed to hear!
WW3 would be catastrophic on many levels. I don't agree with war for many reasons. If it's inevitable, are you suggesting we might not have a choice but to fight? Any recommendations on how to best/adapt prepare for the worst?
Any future videos on this topic would be greatly appreciated!
Hi again, @moons_mind1278, thanks for your very encouraging comment. There are new videos coming to further this topic. Respect and Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
I also held the belief that the culture has gotten so "woke" that it is asleep. It was initially as a joke but hearing Pauline echo it made me realize how apt it was. Thank you for sharing these thoughts!
Blessings, @Andrew-cy7jo, thank you for your kind comment, and sharing your insight here with us all. Best Wishes, Pauline
45:03 "Wotan will wear a feminine face"...
I shall not see a world that will be dear to me
Summer without flowers
Kine will be without milk,
Women without modesty,
Men without valor,
Captures without a king...
Woods without mast,
Sea without produce...
Wrong judgments of old men,
False precedents of lawyers,
Every man a betrayer,
Every boy a reaver
Son will enter his fathers bed,
Father will enter his son's bed,
Every one will be his brother's brother in law....
An evil time!
Son will deceive his father,
Daughter will deceive her
mother.
--the prophecy of the Morrígan, the Phantom Queen, Second Battle of Moytura
It feels like a jung to live by aion arc is starting
I always want to drop everything when one of your videos shows up! This was very thought provoking, will need to watch again. Thank you!
Hi again, @redruby8529, thank yo uso much, as ever, for your on-going support for the channel, and our work. So very glad, you enjoy the videos! Respect and Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
What do you guys think about the possibility of women fighting in wars now and how that will affect this subject?
This is such a comprehensive and all-inclusive presentation of what's going on with us as a specie. It paints the whole picture. Much more people should pay attention to this, although, granted most will not be able to fully grasp it, for they, including myself, have been accustomed to break things down and reduce things to phenomena on seperate levels.
Hi @Verschlimmbesserung, thanks so much for your kind comment, we learned personally from the late Professor George Engel, that even holism, is a kind of reductionism, as a focus of resolution of scale. Field effects, are scale invariant, in the sense that information manifests simultaneously, at all represented levels. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
36:11 - The scientists and even biologists who think human beings are cognitive and rational really need to read more John Gray.
33:58 - I fully agree that this is traditional (and historically) practical gender manifestations trying to reassert themselves. Here's hoping that we are able to find applications for the 'right side out' masculine and feminine that are stable enough too survive exponential technology including more democratization of disaster weapons, meaning we won't be able to do this in the zero-sum way that we used to.
Very interesting discussion. Really helps to reframe the understanding of psychology. I wonder now if the rise in apocalyptic and dystopian stories about extinction is a coincidence or if it is meant as a warning.
My thoughts exactly.
Hi again, @agentmysterian1461, we'd regard this as a field-phenomenon, that superpositions representation of these dystopian stories, in culture, at the same time they are present as active ground-state 'informational'-dynamics within both individuals and groups. Consciousness of the 'field' as an Objective Wave-Form' (OWF) allows us to process the latent (otherwise unconscious) dymanics, active within the field. Subjective collapse of the field of our individual consciousness (the SWF) doesn't have the carrying-capacity, to grasp the superpositioned state of the wider OWF. It takes effort, and an increased attention to field dynamics. Those who do not make the effort, will be directed by the dominant trend in the field. Its a clear choice, but only if we know that consciousness is not only subjective, to our personal awareness. Kindest Regards, Steve
Thanks you for this video and for sharing your insights. The dynamic that is happening over in the east and young men who’ve been politically blinded via instincts to fight a war that isn’t there’s, is an incredibly fascinating perspective to look at this dynamic at hand. I remember you said in a seminar with me, that at one point, the men will destroy their own women and become the very monsters that women want them to be. Again another great video thanks you three 🙏
Blessings, @tuwheratiaihaka2744, you've learned well.... Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Thanks for everything you shared in this video and for all the work you have been doing in the last years regarding this youtube channel, this is really a source of wisdom. I would like you to consider the possibility of talk with Bret Weinstein, he is one of the few biologists who has developed a similar vision regarding the impact of the genome has on collective human behavior and on what we are living today with all these events, It would be quite interesting to listen the conversation between you and him and go deeper into the subject and also about the possible solutions that can be implemented to slow down what is happening. Thanks a lot.
Hi again @rafaelvazquez3304, thanks for your suggestion. Bret is one of the more switched on evolutionary biologists, reaching out to the public, at this time. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
The solar panel's shining face
Is smiling back on me
Twisting off into the sun
It's okay to be lonely
All my missions float away
I never trained too hard
I'm so caught up in the tree of stars
Falling in my backyard
She'll always be what I can't find
She'll always be where I break down
She'll always hide behind a star
I'll always dream, she can't be far
I've got no Houston to whine down to
I've got no protocol
Gravity's so far away
Wrapped on that shrinking ball
I eclipsed my memories
Sleeping inside this pod
Patient, time will carry me
On her back without a sigh
And I won't let her down
My soul is celestial-bound
And if I'm never found
She'll always be
She'll always be what I can't find
She'll always be where I break down
She'll always hide behind a star
I'll always dream, she can't be far
[Failure - Another Space Song]
I was unsure if I should ask this in the discord or not, but I think here would be best for others to see. I have a question regarding when Steve and Pauline were talking about the "men who are competitive" and how the women would then select those men. What exactly is it meant by those men who are competitive. I understand the obvious need for status and securing resources, but if there is a current push by a few parties globally to cull the west, is it inevitable (as another commenter asked) that men of the west will have to engage in war. I understand somewhat the dynamic from women and the culture to divide men into either over amping themselves or becoming "wimps" and either not asserting their masculinity or allow masculinity as a category to be defiled. in approaching this situation as a field phenomenon, how would one approach this while operating externally in the world? Would going down a middle path and not allow yourself to be pushed to either extreme and by slowly over time changing the objective wave form.
I wrote this earlier, but my connection cut out so it never posted and I'm trying to recall what I wrote. Thank you again for the 2 videos (so far) in the series. Gave me a lot to contemplate and reorganize how I see this dynamic situation and its actors. Cheers 👃
Hi again @chowchebi, the third video in the series is due out tomorrow April 11th 2023, with three more planned as follow-ups. Hope this helps. Kindest Regards, Steve
@@JungToLiveBy It does indeed, looking forward! Been contemplating what I wrote for weeks now, though I got confirmation from my unconscious for it's help as (won't be too personal) my right thumb was freaking out and twitching during and after watching the video for days before I finally asked for assistance. After I did I got the confirmation of assistance and the twitching stopped. Experienced this before during, in retrospect was an unhealthy adaptation toa prominent celebrity psychologist, and I ignored those signals sadly from the psyche as just "odd muscle twitches" and of no importance.
This was a very concise analysis on what is occurring on multiple levels of culture/society, and the broader world. Interesting times ahead to say the least. Hope and awareness of these things is critical
Hi again, @danielfarchione3076, thanks for your encouragement, and support for our channel. We agree, that the awareness of these things is critical. The Chinese saying 'May you live in interesting times' is ironic, but a useful reminder, as you have said, that our times, ahead, are going to be interesting, and good people will be needed to navigate through. Respect and Kindest regards, Steve & Pauline
@@JungToLiveBy Precisely. I am optimistic in a sense that there will be humanitarian visionaries that will aim to progress society forward. My guess is that they will be scrutinised and resented but they will be the ones to clear the way forward. I see JTLB as part of this vision of an affective world where adaptive relating is a chief principle. What is important, now, is that we all must try to be on the right side of history. Keep up the good content Steve, Pauline, and James, because you are getting straight to the point of an adaptive biopsychosocial life rather than reducing everything to psychosis-like theory...like what some people are pushing. Honestly, you are a blessing to this world.
Thanks! War always confuses me. I notice like 3 parts in me. The one that is afraid of a gruesome conflict. The loving part, that love all forms of life. And also some kind of heroic patriotic die for your brother and sisters kind of thing. I never know which part is the most conscious. Am I not going to defend myself as tibetan monks did against China? Im gonna fly like a rat. I am gonna be manipulated by some war lords? I dont find the answers yet.
Wotan emerging with the face of a woman? I see much of that mirrors in the 'Kali-Yaga', her time ruled by death, disease, and loss of instinctual boundaries as humanity essentially tosses it own trash (with some of that trash sadly becoming humanity itself).
I do relate strongly to having been at that event horizon and actually come back, though what I'm coming back to is unfortunately the very scene of sickness which caused this. Darwin. Consciousness of self is the answer, but what is self besides yet another raft to be out in sea again.
General AI is another thing that appears to be, maybe, rearing its head over the horizon. Just a coincidence, or is it possible that somehow fits into this mess as well? What kind of impact do you think that would have, if it ever arrives, if possible at all?
Hi again, @user-kw9hg9oi1f, you're one of our longest standing subscribers! That's a question that deserves a detailed response. I think a video would be best on this. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I have a genuine question that worries me, in fact, it terrifies me. Are there any other academic circles that share similar insights to psycho-systems-analysis? I ask this because this knowledge is so esoteric and it’s explanatory power is overwhelming.
IPSA has it’s own metaphysics and epistemology. If it were to be criticized from outside, I feel that Steve would have a highly technical and nuanced response to every criticism and thus render it meaningless (That’s how well thought everything seems to be and how robust the system is). Has there been any academic or person that has criticized IPSA’s ideas? I want to know if IPSA’s considers that it has limitations on it’s own system.
Let me frame it this way, it’s absolutely terrifying to think that most if not all academic institutions are basically indulging in an epistemological delusion, in a misrepresentation of human nature and how it tries to solve human problems. Thus, IPSA is the truth and everything else is false or partially true. That’s how it has felt for me listening to Steve and Pauline through these years, but I may be magnifying it a bit too much.
Apart from all of that, I genuinely am grateful that you guys keep sharing this knowledge for free in jung to live by.
Hi @1yanyiel, thanks for your comment, and your support for our channel, these last years. The IPSA model has a built in error-correcting feedback and updating element as one of its 'Four Pillars'. This means that the approach 'must' continuously update itself, and be pressure-tested against other models. This means too, that it should never be in a final form. Each practitioner is encouraged to follow this process of 'Dialectical Syncretism' and to test this against colleagues and peers, but most importantly, against the empiricism of real life, including other people's contexts and experience, through depth psychology and psychotherapy (as examples). As we're continually following this process of refinement and development, and have done since the 1980s, we welcome new inputs and experience. Our field as a whole is less amenable to continuous development. One reason for this is 'psycho-reductionism' which is mistake 101, as that leads to a collapsed ego-centric perspective and eventual abstraction into ossifying dogma. Kindest Regards, Steve
I wonder if you guys could do a video on the gender roles and what they should be. Are there any modern examples of well known people embodying these roles? Perhaps movie characters? And if you’ve covered this previously, could you point me towards the correct video.? Thanks.
Hi @P33LoudNoise, thanks for subscribing, and thanks too for your suggestions. We will be developing those topics going forward. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline.
The way our culture works (especially in decadence) sight is for losers and misfits (as is any 'unneeded' knowledge - such as compensating for bad genes or weakness of some kind), sleep is for winners and people with 'good genes' who were strong enough to never need to grow up or gain perspective. While I'd love to think this will turn out well I think all of the incentives are against that.
I cant remember which video in the series this was, so my apologies if it isn't this video... But I'm struggling with my understanding on a couple of things. After the video I was left with the impression that fighting in a war would be a good thing. The comment about the men who would NOT go to war, staying behind putting there hair in buns aided in that. But if these wars are a Darwin test then wouldn't it be better to NOT go to war and figure out a way to be self reliant and sustainable? If the women saying the dont like toxic masculinity are creating toxic masculine men. Is to past the shit test not to become a feminine man? Amd istead become a masculine one by being someone who would go to war. I am someone who could be swayed into going to war if I felt like a man doing so, but I could also imagine myself rejecting the concept because why would i foght for a nation that doesnt foght for me. Because the people on the other side of the war havnt done anything to me and are being herded into fighting a war the same way I would be. It's nothing personal between me and an opposition solider. I also don't understand what other shit tests are going on relationaly, maybe because I'm failing the test. Clarity would be much appreciated. Thank you
Hi again @leefletcher8489, there's no moral or ethical position taken on war, at all, only that we cannot escape our biology, and that its better to come to a conscious understanding of its adaptive demands, otherwise we will likely fall into selective conflict with them. There is a resolution of 'consciousness' that is not that of the Ego, or indeed of our social instincts. Its the bottom-line, of adaptation, that will superposition itself 'un'-consciously, from the level of individuals, right up to the highest level of 'group' (species-wide) representation. If this remains unconscious, then 'Darwin' is left to direct everything, and will do so. It isn't easy becoming conscious of the realities of impersonal collective forces. but that is part of the selective pressure test. Are any of us conscious enough? Being prepared for any challenge, is not the same as acting out instincts under their pressure, like an automaton. It is however, the best state of readiness an individual can be in, to find peers, and adapt to the chaotic circumstances that are likely, when a system approaching its singularity of collapse, generates the opportunity for a field reversal. Jung called this (borrowing from Heraclitus) 'Enantiodromia'. Kindest Regards, Steve
@@JungToLiveBy thank you I really I appreciate how thoughtful your replies are 🙏
Your videos don’t always appear in my subscriptions, fyi
Thanks @TurtlePower718, much obliged, Steve & Pauline
Could you explain in more depth Rupert Sheldrake's field phenomenon and its role in today's cultural situation? You mentioned it in the video but didn't elaborate further. Thank you.
Hi @LTS720, we've had Rupert Sheldrake on the channel for a guest seminar, and we'll be re-inviting him again soon. I've been an admirter of his work and his personal integrity, since I first encountered his books in 1981. Basically, the connection between his work on fields (morphica & behavioural), connected with the work of Professor Sir Roger Penrose and Professor Stuart Hameroff, on 'Platonic' fields and consciousness (Priofessor Hameroff was also a guest seminar presenter on JTLB) together with Jung's understanding of the Collective Unconscious, all considered with an understanding of fundamental Darwinian dynamics, make up the elements of the view taken in the video. We will be doing much more on this, going forward. Thank you for your encouraging comment, Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
Fascinating video! It's been my opinion that society has divorced itself from nature and the farther we get away from it, the sicker society gets and that, eventually, Mother Nature would intervene to preserve life on earth. Which leads to my question: you mentioned China and war and I wonder if they are experiencing this call to war and expansion due to their one child law that has lead to an imbalance of male children and aborting their female babies?
I remember being shocked as a young mother realizing how differently my hubby and I parented and how we balanced each other out.
Blessings and thanks @deniseheupel8814, so much of value can (an has here) come from the insights of the feminine. Thanks for sharing. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
I appreciate putting these views out there, understandably stronger than much of the content you share. But in line with the inertia that is pulling us away there isn't a topic more important now. The collective frustration beneath what's happening is not far from me either.
I imagine the collective pull will be to collapse in the culture to make sense of it, separating, going more unaware. The resolution seems at the level you describe. I would say though, that perspective can only be a starting point.
Blessings, @alexbalint8718, thanks for sharing that very considered viewpoint. We'll be dpoing more on this subject, very soon, and will continue with that, going forward. Respect and Kindest regards, Steve & Pauline
Great topic and video. After awhile this starts to sink in. I’ve always had thoughts about the feminization of men and I rear back from it, even though I’m absolutely sure it happened to me.
Here in USA I hope a great majority hate what we see in politics, esp with the narcissist currently wanting to reclaim the presidency. We can’t get through to those who LOVE him. They all talk just like him, like clones, and they don’t have a unique voice of their own. God save this country, and learning from this video, God save the world.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Steve said something to the effect of that he agreed with jung on two things but only explained one? Thank you
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What books from Darwin would you recommend for a novice please?
Hi @JUMPINGJUPITERIAN, many thanks for your support for the channle, this past two years. James, would be best placed to answer this. Darwin's original work, is written in terms of the times ion which he lived, nd he's been interpreted in various ways ever since. If you want to message him on contact@jungtoliveby.com, I'll ask him to look out for your message. Kindest Regards, Steve
I am trying this "conservative withdrawal" you talked about in the video, but it's hard to see what parts of my recent history are in line with this genomic instinct pushing towards terminal lucidity.
Are there any videos on the channel that might help me discern what I should or shouldn't pay attention to?
Hi @asdfghjkl3669, many thanks for your comment. There's a lot of information spread across many videos on the channel, so its not easy to suggest where you may want to start, specifically, with respect to Conservation Withdrawal. Mindfulness techniques would be a good place to start, until you're ready to explore more deeply. Kindest Regards, Steve
Hi sorry could you please just expand on the meaning of the "shit testing of men" , thanks in advance - just discovered your content and its alot to process but very interesting and relevant!! 😅
Hi @wagsta1, thank you for your support fror the channel. If you check out our channel, starting with the 'Terminal Lucidity' series and then the recent 'Rebirth series' which has a new video coming out soon, you'll get a lot of information about the questions youve raised. There's a lot of other videos on the channel that will help too. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
U guys just predicted the current situation on the middle east T-T
Hi @rafsanimam5647, 'contemporary events' as Jung said, reveal the future casting its shadow backwatrds into whatever 'present' we momentarily occupy. Kindest Regards, Steve
I reckon the change in the collective the good doctor talked about is happening since e=mc2 and thats why they cant join with gravity seeing newton predicted 2060. May be by then EINSTEIN and newton could hug 🦍⌚❤️
I enjoyed this - however I felt that at times the obvious reasons feminism arose were overlooked
Hi @lupinecollides, thank you for your comment. All videos are time-limited, and we always have to be minddful of what emphasis needs to be given, for the wider context. Kindest Regards, Steve
This is why society cancelled the Tate brothers. They were trying to revive masculinity for the better of humanity.
To a degree yes but as you heard James mentioned the guy is a guru and has a caricatured aspect of masculinity.
I disagree. The Tate Brothers and the reaction against them just proves how polarizing masculinity is. That "masculinity" is defined as this loud, brash, nearly hateful caricature of what it means to be a man, with all the reactions defining him as being "the problem" with masculinity despite the fact that very little everyday people could actually draw anything useful from him.
@@patrickkish6662 That would be awesome, though admittedly I have no idea what that would look like. Similar to James I've been with the guru scene since it's inception in the four horsemen/Atheist youtube days and it seems that whenever any total organizing principal emerges from within the culture another binary emerges to tear it apart (Atheism+ and the social justice scene soon after) and that pattern is even more pronounced with any male dominated movement.