I mean….can the guy play anything that sounds good…? After the age of 15 this “fast-finger” BS sounds like trash. So I ask, again, can he play anything good?
@@stonemanguitars French did teach you the most polileness lessons, so that speaking with french words in is considered as the best education mark ... But of course, not all franch are polite guys, as well as people like you are not all @ssholes.
@@stonemanguitars French poilteness is regarded as the most evoluated one by the most educated people ... But not all french persons are well educated, as well as some people like you may be well educated, of course.
@@BlackSun3Tubefrench dudes are assholes & CAN be alright & there are nice geezers, & french girls can be assholes but usually are very nice, you sound like you have zero clue wtf you are saying.
He’s undeniably talented. But going to a show, (unprompted and without even knowing the guys) insisting another guitar player plays for you only for you to show off and demonstrate how amazing you are is so weird and pathetic. With that being said however, I wouldn’t expect anything less from a jazz guitarist, let alone the French.
Yes you said it right this was incredibly pathetic and you run into these types in every music scene! Like if you’re so good dude get up there and play!
bro it’s not that deep it’s js musicians bonding together and noodling around having fun. js cuz it’s jazz and he’s french don’t mean he’s automatically pretentious 😭
@@Steven-zf9lf so a guy coming up to you at your show and shoves a guitar in your hand and says “play play play” and you’re like ok I guess here’s some riffs and then he goes “ok now watch how much better I am then you by endlessly playing fast jazz lines” isn’t pretentious? If he was bonding he would have asked to jam with him or ask if he knows and jazz or would like to learn some.
@@elpibelol5005you really don’t have to, to know that was trash. Like sonically I would never listen to that but like technicality wise yeah it’s good and he’s going crazy but that doesn’t equate to good music.
@@warshipsatin8764 Well its a language that for a fact a whopping majority dont speak. And given the population of those who do is so small, theres really no point if more or less the goal of good music is usually to have it be relatable to many people…
@@dominicekezie2011 "the goal of good music is to have it be relatable to many people" i guess the billboard top 40 is the best music in the world then. thanks for the insight
Any nerd can lock themselves away for years and learn how to play fast and develop some kind of skill. When it comes to music life experience and style is the most important. This guy just looks like a nerd masturbating his guitar, not playing anything worth anything
Exacly, thats why "Jazz" or any other folk music is most important than just the pentatonic scale, is not for everyone, not everyone heard the changes on the music
@@Sameold87I don't believe it's "fragile" to say that the people in the video were objectively being assholes. They knew what they were doing, and they knew they'd get attention for it. If I see a fully grown adult chokeslam some random kid in the street should I walk up to the kid and say "hey, stop being so fragile". If anything, it shows how fragile the two guys in the video are, that they need to boost their egos by showing off to strangers. It's pretty pathetic.
@@DarkPlaysThingswhat a crappy analogy. This kids got plenty of skill, enough to post his chops for full view and criticism all day everyday. I'm sure someone doing a practice line in front of him probably didn't crack his skull, break his back, get him choked, or get this, probably didn't even hurt his feelings. 😮 Soft out here these days.
Guitar culture sucks now. It’s not a competition. Edit: I’ve gotten 15 comments with the same reply; that it has always been that way. Yes, but social media hasn’t helped.
@@LunaticsRomanticRecords I mean, musicians can come from different schools of thought, that’s fine. Expression and knowledge go hand in hand… artistic expression usually through playing by ear is awesome… likewise, having a deep understanding of theory is also awesome… the best players have both… bottom line… it’s no competition… there’s always someone better, so approaching music competitively is a waste of energy.
They are just like this since Django. So... This just the way it is. The youtuber guy's Jimi-stg.scratch was also pathetic on that guitar with the 12-13 strings.
As a french guy i can assure you that he says ''it's good to play with him'' in the tone of his voice you can understand that it is absolutly ironic, he didn't wanted to play with him but against Mickey. French man asked him to play only to show he was faster/better than him... Absolutly disgusting, he just wanted to show that he had a bigger one. Ego at its worst!
This was clearly a bout of egos. The first guy playing sounded good, the second guy tried to prove his superiority. We don’t accept him in the music community, unless it’s some sort of collaboration-like skit.
@@gatesandguitars I understand brother, I’ve played the piano for 17 years and the drums for 12. I’m 22. All I’m saying is, there’s no need to bash others, through your musical prowess. It was clear that was the intention, with the talented guitarist saying repeatedly “play it, play it!” Like some fanatic.
It seems like he was just trying to show off and make him look better to his friends, kinda shitty if you ask me. It shouldn’t be a competition it should just be about loving the music and playing how you want to play
The same reason most people only listens to certain bands and don't listen to others till they make it up there. Because of love and not competition. 😂
I wouldn’t be regretting anything, you played ur style of music well and so did he, you both shared something. If he was only trying to show off, he’s gotta learn what music’s about 🤷♂️
@@CAM_667 what bashing? Did I lie about something? Clearly a lot of people agree that they have a problem with being extremely cocky and arrogant. I pointed out a very obvious flaw in all that pride that apparently they are blind to see.
@@3volk715 im french, i gotta say the guy in the video cross the boundarys of dumbness yes, but all french are not assholes, just the goofy parisians, i got a tip for you DONT GO NEAR PARIS, come in our little villages or less known Cities i promise you you’ll see us differently.
Yeah hes good, but what hes playing doesn't sound good. I played Takanaka for one of my buddies and he was laughing at the guy playing slow. Speed doesnt equal good music.
@@mrquick6775 You can’t just use buzzwords to undermine people you don’t like. Soul can really just be defined as passionate arbitrary playing which is what he did. Such is even substantiated by him showing such pride.
No way, this dude asked some dude to play his guitar but then he just flexed his skill. Is this an ego thing? I'm also able to play fast but I'm not going around showing off my skill to an unsuspecting guitarist
Happened to me in a guitar store once. I was only playing for 1 year at this point and playing over the hills and far away on an acoustic guitar when some guy behind me just started to do the same but in the most jazzed up way possible
I hope that guy has visited this comment section and seen that everyone thought he was a tool with an overinflated ego. Play with me, not at me. don’t play to show up people or feel better than others, play because it makes you happy man. I prefer what Mikey played because it came from a positive place.
First guy blew the second one out of the water. The whole thing is basically "laying down a soulful groove vs noodling around aimlessly to show off" and it's easy to see who would be able to keep a venue entertained for longer.
maybe people like him are the reason why so many talented players are underappreciated compared to people that just play four chords? his skill is insane but it's hard to appreciate when he's like that.
I reckon it probably tends to happen in any creative field that's as over-crowded and romanticised, I guess everone's desperate to stand out as the one thats better than everyone else
I'm a musician and am not competitive at all...I actually refuse to compete with anyone...refuse...but I'm quite capable of running scales like that pretty fast I mean...it's not hard to memorize scale patterns and the learn to alternate pick...learn a couple picking patterns like groups of six or whatever any even number works with alternate picking...it doesn't even matter...his playing really doesn't impress me much at all...I'm just being honest...the first guy would be much more fun to jam with...
I'm not competitive and I avoid working with people who try to compete with me. I don't like it. Yeah I'm not the best but I don't want to be around people that keep trying to remind me they are better just to stroke their egos.
Nah the 2nd guy is definitely playing way more melodic lines. It may be too fast for you to comprehend. The 1st guy is chucking nicely and it feels good. Both are great just two totally different things happening
This was encouraging since I recently bought a jazz archtop from a stranger online only to realize it likely needs a major neck adjustment. After hearing the quality of tone of the guitar in the video compared to mine, however, I am blown away at how better mine resonates and thus will definitely check into getting the neck professionally worked on.
for people that say its not music, he is playing jazz and most likely improvising, and if you think jazz solos are not music, than you clearly know shit about playing guitar
Jazz solos are music and I love them, i just don't enjoy listening to HIS noodling personally when he is playing fast just for the sake of playing fast.
@@Dovahkiin0117 honestly i like the way he play the guitar bro, really , both of the guys playing great 😅, and i agree with u , everyone has a taste and maybe some style doesnt fit ur preffrence😅, sorry my englsh is bad hehe
For every "Music Expert" who says Jazz it's just playing fast scales. I had a Question for you. Can you play one Scale over the entire Fretboard thats not a pentatonic Shape ?
@@andrewreillymusic2773 because you never listened a gypsy jazz composition, check Angelo de barre, la manouche for example. Then you would stream it. Then, all of these comments only because the guy here in the full video says that jazz is some kind of bastardised blues... I invite you to listen to my example change my mind guy. Then there's classical music->jazz->blues and everything else. This is the history of music, but the only postulates of our Occidental music are in classical and jazz, the rest is just derived. And it's funny to see how the human kind with the century's flowing tend to prefer simpler and simpler music (I like it too sometimes don't worry).
@nicolasmecaj meh, I've always been a fan of gypsy jazz but the dude in this video is just ripping scales with not much rhythmic movement. I prefer a bit more rhythmic tension and release, but for just noodling that was nuts.
Only constructive comment here. What’s with people speaking on a genre they know nothing about in an authoritative manner. It’s absolutely mind boggling
This comment section is braindead. He is definitely not just playing scales. You can clearly hear him outlining chord changes. You might not like this type of music, but he is very talented no doubt.
He is noodling with no actual musical intention. Yes, he’s obviously very talented and I’m sure he COULD play actual music, but that was not on display here.
@@itsjustlogic7232 I know what bebop is. I love Charlie Parker and have transcribed a few of his solos on guitar. But what this guy is doing is just noodling. It’s very clearly just the kind of mindless stuff we all do when we pick up our guitars.
@@firstnamelastname956 I do. I'm in a band. Our bassist is in another band. There are thousands of people who can play polyphia and outshine mainstream bands. Can you guess what the difference is? Oh wait. Lmfao. It's logistics. Who you know. Marketing. Financial risk. Exposure. Disregarding the even the taste of the population. Our bassist has so much of a bigger chance making it than our friend Greg will even though I have to admit Greg makes better music.....alone. Do you know why? Because the band our bassist is in opens for relapse records when they're in the area. They know people linked directly to relapse records and maybe even themselves.
On a brief inventory of the comment section, I see that in the guitarist community, people are still better at talking shit about other guitarists than actually playing their instrument
That shit was hot garbage. No soul, feel or creativity. As someone who listens to jazz occasionally, there's a good reason it's not popular. Guitarist like him. I thought the first guitarist was just nodding. . . Ok not bad but, the second one played like he smoked crack right before. I've been playing guitar for over 15 years btw. Tim Henson as the same problem as the second guitarist, Steve Vai smoked him on Ego Death. It wasn't even close
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843because it does you tasteless hooligan. There's a reason jazz is heralded as an achievement, because it exists to be difficult and a musician's music, something that you need to understand to enjoy.
@angusrowan3443 no ones saying hes a bad player. U can be a god of shredding and still play something that just has too much going on. Jazz is cool shredding fast on jazz doesn't sound good
Mmm. Nice. Shredding the scales with a nice Jazz solo. Going up and down the scales. unaccompanied by any other instruments.. MAN! That's so much fun to listen to. 😮
Yes absolutely! To have good jazzphrasing and vocubulary that Shows the ability to Play enclosures and Arpeggios is pretty amazing. Than to Play it in BeBop Tempo even more. If you don't have IT you can't Tell it's jazz.
Bro was stroking his ego till it was raw 💀
Right? Down to the bone jajajaha
Lmao bro even made moaning noise when he fucked up
Cringe
No lotion
I mean….can the guy play anything that sounds good…? After the age of 15 this “fast-finger” BS sounds like trash. So I ask, again, can he play anything good?
Jazz heads..
The best
@@diffusewings4937 false
@@diffusewings4937fuck no
French jazz heads * they are very insecure
@@RabbiB0Ygit gud
He’s a gypsy jazz guitarist, met him in Paris once. He’s a very nice guy indeed
doesnt look too nice here
He didn't seem nice tyring diss Americans like we aren't better than his terrorist country
Nice? 💀 Bro just want to show off and have his ego boosted
If this is considered a nice guy in france. I can't imagine what kind of monster is the worst guy lol
@@ceiboeater4815 He is french lowest of the low
“Play, play”. Dude was so aggressive😂😂😂
He's french. What do you expect?
@@stonemanguitars French did teach you the most polileness lessons, so that speaking with french words in is considered as the best education mark ...
But of course, not all franch are polite guys, as well as people like you are not all @ssholes.
@@stonemanguitars French poilteness is regarded as the most evoluated one by the most educated people ...
But not all french persons are well educated, as well as some people like you may be well educated, of course.
@@BlackSun3Tubefrench dudes are assholes & CAN be alright & there are nice geezers, & french girls can be assholes but usually are very nice, you sound like you have zero clue wtf you are saying.
@@stonemanguitarsego strong
He’s undeniably talented. But going to a show, (unprompted and without even knowing the guys) insisting another guitar player plays for you only for you to show off and demonstrate how amazing you are is so weird and pathetic. With that being said however, I wouldn’t expect anything less from a jazz guitarist, let alone the French.
Yes you said it right this was incredibly pathetic and you run into these types in every music scene! Like if you’re so good dude get up there and play!
bro it’s not that deep it’s js musicians bonding together and noodling around having fun. js cuz it’s jazz and he’s french don’t mean he’s automatically pretentious 😭
@@Steven-zf9lfdamn right!
@@Steven-zf9lf so a guy coming up to you at your show and shoves a guitar in your hand and says “play play play” and you’re like ok I guess here’s some riffs and then he goes “ok now watch how much better I am then you by endlessly playing fast jazz lines” isn’t pretentious? If he was bonding he would have asked to jam with him or ask if he knows and jazz or would like to learn some.
the only reason you think this guy is "showing off" is your own insecurity
The second guy must be real fun at parties
Just goes around with his guitar trapping people into his wankery.
Nah that's like the average jazz player
He is the party
"PLAY PLAY.... ZEE FEST-air YOU PLAY, ZEE FEST-air I CAN BE BEzz-air THAN YOU!!!"
No girl would ever want to sit on his face, look at his nerd face
i thought he was gonna make you play a broken guitar and then once you played he was gonna say you broke it and scam you
Sounds like a bunch of random jazz licks played fast without regard to song structure...
And most importantly: guitar playing is not a competition...and he was just noodling...
Guitarists will be impressed because that's what we do. Anyone who doesn't play guitar or not into music would not mind those chops one second. Lol..
Guitarists will be impressed because that's what we do. Anyone who doesn't play guitar or not into music would not mind those chops one second. Lol..
Ok but like undeniably that’s extremely difficult and it’s very funny he just whipped it out. like you don’t have to be a wet flannel about this
@KindaKaon a social observation is okay, you don't need to be a wet wool sweater
Not all improvising is noodling
Imagine practicing thousands and thousands of hours in your room so you can sounds like a hornet with an aneurysm
gypsy jazz
You dont know anything about guitar lmao
@@elpibelol5005 what makes you think I don't?
@@elpibelol5005you really don’t have to, to know that was trash. Like sonically I would never listen to that but like technicality wise yeah it’s good and he’s going crazy but that doesn’t equate to good music.
although you are not wrong I hate your comment lol no disrespect tho
Being a skilled jazz musician is like mastering 100 languages and having nothing to say...
theyre saying plenty of things, just in languages you dont understand.
@@warshipsatin8764In languages that nobody speaks, so whats the point…
@@dominicekezie2011 just because you dont speak it doesnt mean nobody does
@@warshipsatin8764 Well its a language that for a fact a whopping majority dont speak. And given the population of those who do is so small, theres really no point if more or less the goal of good music is usually to have it be relatable to many people…
@@dominicekezie2011 "the goal of good music is to have it be relatable to many people"
i guess the billboard top 40 is the best music in the world then. thanks for the insight
This is the guy that starts playing next to me at Guitar Center 30 seconds after I start trying out a guitar. Every… single… time.
Jazz players are extremely talented but no one gives a fuck….that’s the stereotype, You’d get a bigger audience playing your pentatonic scales 😂
So true
Any nerd can lock themselves away for years and learn how to play fast and develop some kind of skill. When it comes to music life experience and style is the most important. This guy just looks like a nerd masturbating his guitar, not playing anything worth anything
Exacly, thats why "Jazz" or any other folk music is most important than just the pentatonic scale, is not for everyone, not everyone heard the changes on the music
@@michelmv9922 yip plus jazz actually sounds good especially the cool scales and sharps and flat notes it's a master peace.
@michelmv9922 in blues we dont play the changes we bend through the changes
Two show off bullies, that's what they are. They immediately turned the meeting into a competition.
Don't cry so hard
@@Sameold87I hope next time you're practicing a hobby that some guys show up, force you to perform for them, then flex that they're better than you.
@@DarkPlaysThings That's life dude don't be so fragile, it didn't happened to you
@@Sameold87I don't believe it's "fragile" to say that the people in the video were objectively being assholes. They knew what they were doing, and they knew they'd get attention for it. If I see a fully grown adult chokeslam some random kid in the street should I walk up to the kid and say "hey, stop being so fragile". If anything, it shows how fragile the two guys in the video are, that they need to boost their egos by showing off to strangers. It's pretty pathetic.
@@DarkPlaysThingswhat a crappy analogy. This kids got plenty of skill, enough to post his chops for full view and criticism all day everyday. I'm sure someone doing a practice line in front of him probably didn't crack his skull, break his back, get him choked, or get this, probably didn't even hurt his feelings. 😮 Soft out here these days.
Art is not a competition
For me a beautiful melody is what makes a good music
Playing fast doesn't mean a guitarist is better
Lmao he definitely understands that fretboard better than you or this youtuber ever will.
Playing slow neither
@@alwaysabiggafish3305yet he couldn't understand how to play something that captures us emotionally. It was just very technically skilled noodling
@@alwaysabiggafish3305so? It sounds garbage. You don't understand the point of music. It's not pushing buttons as fast as you can on a computer.
@@bandolierboy1908 Haha I totally vibed to whatever he played and I am in awe. You have to meet jazz standards to understand jazz.
Guitar culture sucks now. It’s not a competition.
Edit: I’ve gotten 15 comments with the same reply; that it has always been that way. Yes, but social media hasn’t helped.
Agreee dude! Its about art heart and soul
Agreed.
@@hannanathan564 hell yeahh!! Art from heart always beautiful man!
@@LunaticsRomanticRecords I mean, musicians can come from different schools of thought, that’s fine. Expression and knowledge go hand in hand… artistic expression usually through playing by ear is awesome… likewise, having a deep understanding of theory is also awesome… the best players have both… bottom line… it’s no competition… there’s always someone better, so approaching music competitively is a waste of energy.
True
"Jazzman" should be a new super hero character ngl.
Saw this guy performing at a cafe in Paris once. He was actually quite nice and his playing was phenomenal
There was absolutely no need for that other than to show off.
uh huh
Some guitarists never grow out of their egos and they're missing the point of music entirely.
“Finally the scales I practiced naked alone in my room can be played shoddily to impress this white bread American”🤡
They are just like this since Django. So... This just the way it is. The youtuber guy's Jimi-stg.scratch was also pathetic on that guitar with the 12-13 strings.
To me, it sounded like shit
As a french guy i can assure you that he says ''it's good to play with him''
in the tone of his voice you can understand that it is absolutly ironic, he didn't wanted to play with him but against Mickey. French man asked him to play only to show he was faster/better than him...
Absolutly disgusting, he just wanted to show that he had a bigger one.
Ego at its worst!
lol we expect nothing less from the frenh
absolutely not
It was a set up
@@mbradley5683 real
I love how humble jazz guitarists are, especially French jazz guitarists.
I can take about a minute of that before I feel exhausted.
usually u get cursed with mystical guitar powers so i see it as a win-win
i didnt get it sorry im dumb
Yeah but his attitude sucks he won’t make it too far. Keep up the good work brother
And his playing sounds shit aswell so I'm struggling to see when this "humbling" happebed
I'd rather hear that cool funky riff, pleasant and groovy❤
Bro is stroking his ego raw no lotion 😔
The guitar at times can be almost like a sport but music will always be music.
This was clearly a bout of egos. The first guy playing sounded good, the second guy tried to prove his superiority. We don’t accept him in the music community, unless it’s some sort of collaboration-like skit.
🤓🤓
yeah bro i’m sure the jazz maestro is gonna be real torn up abt yt shorts commenters not letting em in the community
Showing off a skill you've put countless hours of work into? Nah, we don't do that here pal. 😂 no community for you! 🤦
Noodling
@@gatesandguitars I understand brother, I’ve played the piano for 17 years and the drums for 12. I’m 22. All I’m saying is, there’s no need to bash others, through your musical prowess. It was clear that was the intention, with the talented guitarist saying repeatedly “play it, play it!” Like some fanatic.
His solo had about as much soul as a dead fish....
Two different playing styles, both very impressive
It seems like he was just trying to show off and make him look better to his friends, kinda shitty if you ask me. It shouldn’t be a competition it should just be about loving the music and playing how you want to play
lol try being in the local music scene, these types of musicians outnumber the humble ones, greatly.
The same reason most people only listens to certain bands and don't listen to others till they make it up there. Because of love and not competition. 😂
it’s alright, no one will listen to a thousand notes constantly at your face for 4 minutes long, he’ll burn out
There’s always a jazz guy with no gig coming to yours to watch. No big deal 😂😂
you're close, you never accept anything from a frog.
I didn't know the annoying kid from Polar Express was French..
Two different styles of playing meant for two completely different contexts. You really can’t compare the two at a level other than preference.
I practice this every day so that i can show people how fast i can play my practice routine.
I wouldn’t be regretting anything, you played ur style of music well and so did he, you both shared something. If he was only trying to show off, he’s gotta learn what music’s about 🤷♂️
Always worse when it’s a Frenchman for some reason 🤣
I like how you just played Generic Funk Riff no. 1.
His playing sounded more technical but your playing sounded better.
no it didn't lets be honest it sounded like every other thing he plays with that strum style
His playing sounded very basic. I like intricacy and complexity in music myself.
@josku5 the other guys first lick was pretty good, but it kind of fell apart after that and lost it's feel.
@@f1rebreather123 "Lost its feel" Bro it was all feel
@@josku5you are so cool
his throwing all his phd skills to this guys😂
Bro got overcooked🗿
The difference between “interesting” and “talented” is not often as drastic as this.
neither of them played anything interesting
How french of him
OUI BAGUETE ET FROMAGE C’EST DÉLICIEUX
You can tell what someone is typically gonna play by the type of guitar, i saw the cut outs and my brain said hes gonna play a crazy jazz lick lol
Ces jazzeux ont enlevé toute l'âme du jazz !
Most humble French :
You would think after centuries of surrendering the would have learned some couth.
@@3volk715stop with the French bashing please
@@CAM_667 what bashing? Did I lie about something? Clearly a lot of people agree that they have a problem with being extremely cocky and arrogant. I pointed out a very obvious flaw in all that pride that apparently they are blind to see.
@@3volk715 im french, i gotta say the guy in the video cross the boundarys of dumbness yes, but all french are not assholes, just the goofy parisians, i got a tip for you DONT GO NEAR PARIS, come in our little villages or less known Cities i promise you you’ll see us differently.
That’s what happens when you have Rimbaud and Verlaine!
Yeah hes good, but what hes playing doesn't sound good. I played Takanaka for one of my buddies and he was laughing at the guy playing slow. Speed doesnt equal good music.
Right where’s the soul??
There’s value within multiple types of play. I feel like you’re taking frustration due to his “ego” and letting that sway your perception.
@@Duck_The Or, his playing doesn’t have much “soul” in it!! 🙄
Takanaka is my favorite guitarist
@@mrquick6775 You can’t just use buzzwords to undermine people you don’t like. Soul can really just be defined as passionate arbitrary playing which is what he did. Such is even substantiated by him showing such pride.
it's all fun and games until you learn that he sold his soul to devil for guitar skills.
Does nothing for my soul
No way, this dude asked some dude to play his guitar but then he just flexed his skill. Is this an ego thing? I'm also able to play fast but I'm not going around showing off my skill to an unsuspecting guitarist
This is a guitar thing haha
@@OM10PYE "I'm gonna assert my dominance by playing better than you >:("
I'm gonna do that everytime I met a guitarist
Happened to me in a guitar store once. I was only playing for 1 year at this point and playing over the hills and far away on an acoustic guitar when some guy behind me just started to do the same but in the most jazzed up way possible
@johnlemon874 thats not always done in an efort to show off. I sometimes hear a song and want to llay along. He was playing with you
@@quisdaman No he played after me
I’m glad jazz isn’t mainstream but I wish it was sometimes. I wish people could understand it. It’s a language in its own like anything else
this is a very out of touch statement
@@whoatethedoor No it isn't
95% of jazz is masturbation
Write a fucking song, arrange it, and sing it for God's sake
@@whoatethedoor it’s possible.
@@pepesupreme6451 Someones salty lmao
I hope that guy has visited this comment section and seen that everyone thought he was a tool with an overinflated ego. Play with me, not at me. don’t play to show up people or feel better than others, play because it makes you happy man. I prefer what Mikey played because it came from a positive place.
his ego was so strong he ended up messing up anyways
I resonate with your playing more. Virtuosity and taste, two different things, don’t always overlap.
Fast playing is overrated 😴
It’s a specific and fun way to play, but not the only way of expressing yourself.
But can he play smoke on the water?
can he play a c chord ?
Can he play a minor? 💀
Anyway heres wonderwall
💯% Yes
I feel like all you had to do was bend one note and it would’ve been over for the french guy
First guy blew the second one out of the water. The whole thing is basically "laying down a soulful groove vs noodling around aimlessly to show off" and it's easy to see who would be able to keep a venue entertained for longer.
maybe people like him are the reason why so many talented players are underappreciated compared to people that just play four chords? his skill is insane but it's hard to appreciate when he's like that.
Ngl, while he is technically great, the music wasnt there for me
LOL. that sounds so scaley, like a warm up practice
Right
And? The youtuber's boring and stupid funky scratch? On that guitar with 12-13' strings?
This is awesome imo always a good time to learn something, realize you don’t practice the right way enough
That's why learning never ends...always someone out there to pick up!
As creatives we don’t like to admit it, but musicians are fiercely competitive
I reckon it probably tends to happen in any creative field that's as over-crowded and romanticised, I guess everone's desperate to stand out as the one thats better than everyone else
I'm a musician and am not competitive at all...I actually refuse to compete with anyone...refuse...but I'm quite capable of running scales like that pretty fast I mean...it's not hard to memorize scale patterns and the learn to alternate pick...learn a couple picking patterns like groups of six or whatever any even number works with alternate picking...it doesn't even matter...his playing really doesn't impress me much at all...I'm just being honest...the first guy would be much more fun to jam with...
I'm not competitive and I avoid working with people who try to compete with me. I don't like it. Yeah I'm not the best but I don't want to be around people that keep trying to remind me they are better just to stroke their egos.
That's why I'm a songwriter and not a musician
Speak for yourself
The French’s playing is just kinda annoying after like 5 seconds, yours sounded a lot more appealing and groovy 🤷♂️
Ahm......No 😅😅😅
“The French’s” lmao ok, bud time to put that superiority complex to rest.
@@firstnamelastname956 nah I just didn’t know his name so I was just referring to him as that lol, it’s not that deep bro😂
@@Fehlfarbenblind to me it sounded annoying, to you it might’ve sounded better the other way around, learn to respect differing opinions bud.
Nah the 2nd guy is definitely playing way more melodic lines. It may be too fast for you to comprehend. The 1st guy is chucking nicely and it feels good. Both are great just two totally different things happening
This was encouraging since I recently bought a jazz archtop from a stranger online only to realize it likely needs a major neck adjustment. After hearing the quality of tone of the guitar in the video compared to mine, however, I am blown away at how better mine resonates and thus will definitely check into getting the neck professionally worked on.
Th gypsy jazz guitar playing style is awesome. Mr. Reidnhart would be proud.
for people that say its not music, he is playing jazz and most likely improvising, and if you think jazz solos are not music, than you clearly know shit about playing guitar
feel swing and improve is the fundamental of jazz hehehe,
@@rizkysurya9602and wouldn’t ya know people feel things differently
His swing might not fit yours
@@Dovahkiin0117that’s not exactly how swing works my friend
Jazz solos are music and I love them, i just don't enjoy listening to HIS noodling personally when he is playing fast just for the sake of playing fast.
@@Dovahkiin0117 honestly i like the way he play the guitar bro, really , both of the guys playing great 😅, and i agree with u , everyone has a taste and maybe some style doesnt fit ur preffrence😅, sorry my englsh is bad hehe
A nice groove was actually waaay cooler to listen. This "jazz shred" sounded as an endles boring BS. You could to catch the nice guitar an run away.
So fast but so filthy rithm
I thought he was gonna show us some type of scam when you try to play guitar and it breaks immediatly so the owner can blame you for it
For every "Music Expert" who says Jazz it's just playing fast scales. I had a Question for you. Can you play one Scale over the entire Fretboard thats not a pentatonic Shape ?
Bro got the point here but apparently do re mi fa sol it's overrated
Yeah, but my argument is that who actually wants to listen to this? Yeah, it's cool you can play fast, but I would never stream an album of this.
@@andrewreillymusic2773 because you never listened a gypsy jazz composition, check Angelo de barre, la manouche for example. Then you would stream it. Then, all of these comments only because the guy here in the full video says that jazz is some kind of bastardised blues... I invite you to listen to my example change my mind guy. Then there's classical music->jazz->blues and everything else. This is the history of music, but the only postulates of our Occidental music are in classical and jazz, the rest is just derived. And it's funny to see how the human kind with the century's flowing tend to prefer simpler and simpler music (I like it too sometimes don't worry).
Also try playing anything that sounds good that *isn't* part of a relevant scale
@nicolasmecaj meh, I've always been a fan of gypsy jazz but the dude in this video is just ripping scales with not much rhythmic movement. I prefer a bit more rhythmic tension and release, but for just noodling that was nuts.
Sounded good but needs to work on phrasing not just speed
Only constructive comment here. What’s with people speaking on a genre they know nothing about in an authoritative manner. It’s absolutely mind boggling
Talent is not only how good you are at playing.
Is also about knowing when to stop.
The second he finished I wouldve asked him if he could play anything that sounds good
This comment section is braindead. He is definitely not just playing scales. You can clearly hear him outlining chord changes. You might not like this type of music, but he is very talented no doubt.
He is noodling with no actual musical intention. Yes, he’s obviously very talented and I’m sure he COULD play actual music, but that was not on display here.
@@lllULTIMATEMASTERlllhe’s playing bebop language and it’s very intentional
@@itsjustlogic7232 I know what bebop is. I love Charlie Parker and have transcribed a few of his solos on guitar. But what this guy is doing is just noodling. It’s very clearly just the kind of mindless stuff we all do when we pick up our guitars.
I don’t think it really matters, this guy is a freak weirdo for doing this
its impressive sure but in this case, less is more
Music is not a competition.
I'm french Mikey and i'm 💯% on your side! He's maybe super skilled but you're a groovy gentleman ;)
Yes bro. Making it as a musician is 30% skill 70% luck and logistics.
When you don’t know what you’re talking about lol
@@firstnamelastname956 I do. I'm in a band. Our bassist is in another band. There are thousands of people who can play polyphia and outshine mainstream bands. Can you guess what the difference is? Oh wait. Lmfao. It's logistics. Who you know. Marketing. Financial risk. Exposure. Disregarding the even the taste of the population. Our bassist has so much of a bigger chance making it than our friend Greg will even though I have to admit Greg makes better music.....alone. Do you know why? Because the band our bassist is in opens for relapse records when they're in the area. They know people linked directly to relapse records and maybe even themselves.
tbh this goes to anything in life. Luck and logistics plays so much role
On a brief inventory of the comment section, I see that in the guitarist community, people are still better at talking shit about other guitarists than actually playing their instrument
And others (you) are just easily impressed?
The ones calling him a shitcunt or the ones calling him boring?
A. M. E. N.
I'd estimate that about 5%of all guitar owners could pull off even the most simple gig.
Most are like Stevie Wonder talking about telescopes.
Bruh they are just showing their talent and ability...they are not bullies
Say what you want, the guys sick. I live for that stuff.
I always feel guilty about shredding too much but jazz guys get away with it
He must've listened a lot to Django Reinhardt while on coke.
Running through scales at high speeds… mmm what talent 🤔
French and jazz player ..what a combo
this is why you should learn jazz
That shit was hot garbage. No soul, feel or creativity. As someone who listens to jazz occasionally, there's a good reason it's not popular. Guitarist like him.
I thought the first guitarist was just nodding. . . Ok not bad but, the second one played like he smoked crack right before.
I've been playing guitar for over 15 years btw. Tim Henson as the same problem as the second guitarist, Steve Vai smoked him on Ego Death. It wasn't even close
I learned a long time ago that fast and good are two different things
Music is a competition, regardless of what people tell you
I can’t tell if you’re joking
One had notes, the other had feel.
Well looking at the comments you can tell who sucks at Guitar
Ah yes the god of guitar and music has commented to tell us shredding jazz sounds "good"
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843because it does you tasteless hooligan. There's a reason jazz is heralded as an achievement, because it exists to be difficult and a musician's music, something that you need to understand to enjoy.
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843it may not sound good to you, but he definitely is a good player
@angusrowan3443 no ones saying hes a bad player. U can be a god of shredding and still play something that just has too much going on. Jazz is cool shredding fast on jazz doesn't sound good
@@thesambehindtheslaughter8843 there's hundreds of fast jazz songs that sound good
Mmm. Nice. Shredding the scales with a nice Jazz solo. Going up and down the scales. unaccompanied by any other instruments.. MAN! That's so much fun to listen to. 😮
Yes absolutely!
To have good jazzphrasing and vocubulary that Shows the ability to Play enclosures and Arpeggios is pretty amazing. Than to Play it in BeBop Tempo even more. If you don't have IT you can't Tell it's jazz.
He made you go first and then shredded over jazz progressions in his head. I would have played something rhythmic as well.
At least you didn't mess up.That Ibanez sounded really good in your hands,FUNKYYYYYYY......
who was it that said that you never want to be the best musician in the room? defo applies here lol