Stationeers Precision furnace build 1 Getting distracted
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2022
- With all of the new combustion and and thermodynamics, it is time to revisit my first furnace design and see if I can get it to work the way I originally wanted it to work. Whilie my previous automated furnace still works (get the updated code), my first design was more abandonned due to game constraints rather than finished. Now with the power of maths it will be rebuilt. Then I get distracted. Hence part 1
- Hry
Love the outtake at the end. Yeah, the air currents can be quite ridiculous. 😆
Well you have thoroughly lost me during this. I was reduced to weeping and counting my toes while watching.
Your videos are always awesome! Thanks so much for taking the time to make them and share your humor and knowledge.
Oh wow mick, with this gas not mixing you’ve found we could actually make a proper air conditioner with a few filtrations and a few valves, amaxing discovery!
That was my first thought too. Can I make a gas fuelled airconditioner? If I mix cool gas with very hot gas and then cool the mix will the cool gas be very cold gas when I filter them apart. Spoilers: No. They seem to recalculate when radiators are attached. I will still keep experimenting.
@@cowsareevil7514 My best guess as to what's going on there is that someone messed up the temperature caching so you get the temperature of the gas before it was added to the mix.
Ok the second watch through is better so far. The math still hurts my head keeping up with your code. Might try asking for the math for the calculation you mentioned at the end in the Stationeers Discord.
Thank you very much. Please keep remaking tutorials as the game develops
Oha, so antigravity furnace is a thing now - very interesting. Finally no ingots rolling around anymore - that could come in handy :) .
If you have a couple of active vents on a wall, you can even stick a player to the wall
LOL, you wont trip over them.
I love these videos. I suppose you would not have found this bug had you not removed the insulated tank.
Mick, sorry that stuff on the floor was me ghosting in on your video, lol. Cool video and I have to admit I am a bit lost since my math skills are very rusty and my background is only architectural drafting.
Insulation is clearly OP.
Elmotrix did something similar mixing of the hot and cold gasses to hit a specific temp and pressure.
Would it possibly be better to calculate the end total moles inside of the furnace that is needed to reach a pressure and temperture, and go backwards? That way you use only the exact minimum amount of gas to get to your wanted temp/pressure for smelting?
I was going the cold and hot tank routes, and could figure out how many moles from each I needed, but I kept getting stuck on the how to get the exact moles out. I tried back pressure regulators calculating the pressure the tank would be at after that amount of moles was removed, but that ended up not working. I also tried using a volume pump with a sensor on the output that would stop when the number of moles combined was reach, but that failed as well.
You make this look too easy. I keep forgetting things and blowing up pipes.
If you look closely on the last video you might notice a blown pipe on the pollutant. So I dont think you ever get past that.
@@cowsareevil7514 a blown pipe is just an easier to place vent.
Ask elmotrix 😉
@@samuraidriver4x4 It's interesting you mention that, passive vents aren't insulated and will convect/radiate heat but if you bust an insulated pipe wouldn't you get a perfectly insulated passive vent?
@@firstlast9923 And what purpose would an insulated passive vent have exactly? Since it exchanges not only heat with the surrounding environment, but the whole damn content of the pipe network it's connected to! That's its function.
@@Derzull2468 In the latest version radiation has been changed to delete heat, if the gas is too hot the passive vent will start removing some of that heat.
Since when did efficiency matter? I was looking forward to seeing the sun further exploited.
Really though, amazing! To avoid the divide by zero in the experiment, would a branch equal to zero work? Not that its needed, but I'm always trying to be discerning on the code.
Safety first!
Wish I was able to understand all this. I really need to learn the code writing.
It should be interesting to see you make a precision furnace, I did something similar (impure combustion mixer to a set pressure) and I found it difficult to get it to fit within the line limit and the tick limit (128 lines of code per tick).
Energy does get conserved when combusting and the energy released is 286000 per volatile burnt with oxygen and double that with nitrous oxide.
Since energy is conserved you can loop the combustion heat back to the seperated fuel gases to reach very high temperatures.
I was hoping the energy wasn't conserved. It would make the maths easier.
@@cowsareevil7514 It certainly would, it was a pain to get the calculations right but I prefer it over weird gamey comes out at a fixed temperature.
Cows, when is part 2 coming out? I've build the Adv Furnace exactly like you did in your other, most recent video and I can't get it to increase in pressure for Waspaloy. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help from you or your awesome followers would be great. Thanks
You forgot the second E!
And what is all that stuff back there, behind the scenes?
Is that something, what makes you ores without any effort of manually spawning them one after each other with F9?
new toys from beta branch n the backdround.
@@cowsareevil7514yeah I know about it, but I don't know where to activate it.
Btw, thanks to this video, congrats for another milestone!!!
Keep on building and testing and that stuff.
Oh look what a coincidence, it just came out like 5 minutes ago!
When you mix the carbon dioxide with the rest for the second time, the final pressure is 8128 kPa. 8128 is a perfect number, the biggest Euclid found himself without computers.
No I'm serious, everybody google it!
Are you kidding us?!?!?!
So it recalculates the gas through the furnace but how about running it through a heat exchanger?
Likely will be the same as a heat exchanger also has internal volumes
Same, the thermodynamics might be causing it to recalculate.
Was thinking about the heat insulation to recalculate it without heat loss.
That's an interesting bug with the gas temperatures. Did you report it or shall I?
Edit: Could it possibly be related to gas specific heat?
I think it is a code optimisation. If there is no thermodynamic devices attached then done recalc the mix. Because as soon as I tried anything thermodynamic it recalced and ruined my shenanigans.
What is supposed to be the point of transformers? I've literally never used them, and I got to automated rocket. Is it just a cheaper, worse Power Control? The only use of precisely limiting power output seems to be hacking devices that really should be adjustable, such as a gas mixer pump power. Surely, that's not the intended purpose. I just have a fuse rated at coil capacity after my PCMs. I'd rather it blow, and I know the line needs to be upgraded, than the power be limited and some devices not working, which could result in strange behavior.