Why I Still Really Like Doc Martens
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2022
- My thoughts on Doc Martens. This video has some general information about Docs as well as the reasons I still wear them, and why I think they continue to be popular.
@RoseAnvil has a great channel showing the anatomy of Docs and other boots/footwear. Really interesting to see the construction of different types of boots and footwear when he cuts them in half on his channel.
Link to video cutting Made In England Docs in half: • MADE IN ENGLAND Dr Mar...
@Stridewise has done TONS of boot reviews with a lot of good information. I recommend his channel as well.
That does it! I’m pulling out my old but good condition 90’s MIE babies. Gonna oil them up and putting them back on. My other pair are discontinued Triumph 1460 with Tartan inners and belt strap!
@ghenderson2022 NICE! My very first pair were from 1994. MIE. Black Greasy Leather. Thanks for watching.
The Made in England are much much much better than the Asia ones. I wear Docs since the end of the 80s. When I bought my first Asia docs after the brand was sold in the 2000s I was disappointed, too. Not 2 years and they were unusable. My old docs lasted ages. So I quit them for a while. But then I bought my first Made in England 1460s, black. Awesome shoes. Feel like the old one, also qualitywise. Then I bought a pair of oxblood red 1460s Made in England... And now some Made in England Chelsea Boots :D. Still a fan. I know there are better boots out there for 260 bucks, but they are part of my personal history and life. Also got some 1461 vegan. But they are a different story.
My wife loves Docs, too. But she more or less almost collects them. I think she has around 10 different pairs, even sandals. And no MiEs, cause she has enough shoes so they do not get "threadbare" and changes them often.
That happens when the punk, hardcore and goth kids from the 80s and 90s get older and have money to spent ;).
Just got my first ever pair of docs 1460. thank you for the good advice
Congrats. Enjoy your Docs.Glad the video was helpful.
I have several pairs and I love the look. I would like a vintage made in England pair at some point. The oxblood color is nice!
Awesome. Yeah definitely treat yourself to a pair that are MIE at some point. They are putting out more MIE styles as of late too.
Since my favourite brand stopped making minimalistic designs (i'm talking to you Ecco shoes) I'm planning to get DrMartens. This was helpful. Thanx
Glad the video was helpful. I own a pair of Ecco Track II boots. Definitely some of the most comfortable boots right out of the box- no break in at all. Had mine for about 8 years now. I haven't really looked at their more recent boot offerings though.
my doc martens story is about my old ox bloods. my mother owns a vintage clothing shop and naturally she got some docs for me when my feet stopped growing. she got me the most glorious (yet also the most battered, leather cracked, skinny soled) dr martens i had ever seen. they didnt have the airwair tag though which was slightly unusual so maybe they were fakes but if so they were fakes made better than 99% of the actual thing. when i got them the sole was near flat, but after wearing them practically every day for 2 years only then did the sole finally turn completely flat. they were so comfy and i still have held onto them. ive been doing some research and im going to try and resole them , but im going to get a guinea pig pair first to try the techniques! docs arent the best and i despise their new boots because the quality is simply inferior, but sometimes you get a gem that is just something else :))
Nice Video! I like my Dr Martens because of the verity that they have. They are comfortable and I last. I just wish they had half sizes.
Thanks for watching. YES totally agree with wishing they had half sizes. Forgot to mention that in my video.
For me the looks is petty much why I still care about em, also their last fits my foot perfectly. I only wish their leather was better and the tread didn't wear out in a month. Resoling docs is def possible but usually they done by that point. The vibraim gumlite prob the ones to get if you wanna try.
I rebuilt my Docs this year and put black Vibram gumlite on them. Very light weight and comfortable.
I own hand made goodyear welted boots but still have three pairs of Docs that I love to wear, all collabs, they fit in the gap between casual sneakers and serious hand made boots, they look sharp and not as heavy as the hand made ones.
I like doc’s for one reason and that’s the yellow stitching.
Doc Martens are the Punk equivalent of Jordan 1s
Firstly, I thought you had a really well balanced perspective on all this, as someone coming from a real world perspective of wearing them over a long period of time. People can dissect all these different boots, prop them up against each other, and nitpick all the details to see which ones are better, and to what degree, but all that matters is whether you like them or not, and if they feel like they're worth it to you as an individual.
I watched the Rose Anvil video where he resoled a pair of Doc boots, and to he surprise, there WAS a wooden shank in them, and those weren't the Docs from a long time ago, they were the newer made in England Docs... I know this because the Docs from the past dyed the leather black for their black boots, where as the "Vintage" black MIE boots now leave the leather raw, which were the ones he resoled, which shows that the new made in England boots do have a wooden shank.
Regardless, I think people by Docs, because they're Docs. When people are buying Docs, I doubt they're going down a checklist to see if they're the most durable, the most waterproof, if they can be resoled etc. I don't think they get all cork sniffer about it all. Like you said, Docs have all these cultural and historical associations that attract people, the style, nostalgia, sense of connection... plus, they're not bad boots, specifically the made in England ones.
I currently have 3 pairs of Docs boots... 1 pair that I bought in London in 1994 that I still have, 1 pair of the Asian made boots I got a few years ago, and 1 pair of the new Vintage MIE that I got shortly after I got the Asian made ones. The pair from 1994 are of the same soft matte leather as I think you have on the right, and they only gotten softer over time... beaten to hell, but still wearable. Like you, I too have very low volume feet with skinny ankles, and what I've found is that the Asian made Docs are actually shaped to be larger in volume compare to the Vintage MIE, so I always felt like my feet were swimming in the Asian Docs. The Vintage MIE Docs however fit my feel much better, and I also sized down to the smallest size they could accommodate, and they're perfect. If you look at them top down, you'll notice that the Vintage MIE boots have a more tapered toe box, where as the Asian ones are wider. The height of the Asian toe box is also quite a bit taller. As much as some people rave about the Solovair boots, saying they're the true originals, their toe box volume is also much larger than the Vintage MIE Docs, so given the choice, I would still go for the Vintage Docs... plus I prefer the shape of the Toe box, a bit more refined, less clown shoe like.
I don't have comfort issues with the MIE Docs. If I truly wanted comfort, I would wear any boots, I'd just wear Vans, but I don't think anyone wears boots to achieve maximum comfort. Docs last just fine for me, the leather is fine... If I were to suggest a pair, I'd suggest the MIE Vintage too, as they're a bit more than the Asian one's, but the quality and fit is far superior IMO.
Glad you liked the video. Appreciate your insights as well. I was thinking bout Solovairs for awhile, but never pulled the trigger on buying a pair. Like you said, the toe box on them looked a little too bulbous for my taste.
Hey, i have a pair of MIE docs purchased from an old timer who never used them. However the loop tags say ‘Dr Martens’and not ‘Airwair’.also my boots don’t have the thick border piping along the sole edge, they feel a bit shiny and plasticky but also still feel
Like leather. They have MIE embossed on the bottom.
@@ghostrider8307 That's all very consistent with the older Docs from the 90s and before. Dr Martens on the tag, plasticky leather... a lot of them were like that. The more you broke them in, the less plasticky they felt.
@@mountainpeakcloud8442 so m glad i have an original. Thanks for the reply mate.
@@ghostrider8307 You're welcome
I mean, if I want to walk around Tokyo all day I wear running shoes. If I’m going out, gimme Docs
I have the nubuck green englands, 1490 beige englands, those 3 you have englands , I like them too and only wear the englands🎉
It’s more of a good looking boots instead of others that are not really good looking. In my opinion, it’s what important to you
Rather then what others think, it’s better , variety is spice of life.
Idk who wears docs and stands 10+ hours on their feet, which is prob why they got rid of it. Their actual work version might still have it though.
If i get Dr Martens now it'd be the 1460 Bex Lug Sole Platform men boots 👢👢
I love my Docs. But, you wear them for the subculture/counterculture credit, not because they are the world's best boots, although they do have some nice features.
my thoughts exactly. I was just watching some Rose Anvil videos where he brought up lack of shank, leather quality, etc. and was comparing them to Timberlands. My first thought - I love my Docs, but I sure as hell wouldn’t wear them while hiking or doing heavy work off-track, any more than I’d wear ASICS runners. But I CAN walk round the city all day in my 1490s. Different boots for different functions.
@@MyMarsham Yep
Though honestly, the subculture/counterculture aspect is very questionable these days. Docs used to be heavy working boots, and then various rebellious subcultures incorporated them into their aesthetic. Now it's a cheaply mass produced boot that mostly lives off the reputation of the brand and counter-culture nostalgia.
You're basically spending a lot of money for the vibe of a boot, but the money goes to a company as profit for doing nothing (they don't contribute to any form of counterculture or subculture community, they just make boots that meet the demand on the market for their own profit). That's plain mainstream capitalism. The counterculture of Docs is in their past.
Normies are wearing them these days. There's nothing counter-cultural about them anymore.
Why you did not mention the made in England boots fit narrower than the Asian made products
Hi, thank you for the video! I’m going to buy Dr Martens boot for the first time. However, I am not able to decide if I should go for women 1460 MiE Vintage burgundy or women 1460 MiE Horween. I would really appreciate your advice! ❤
Hi. Thanks for watching. You can't really go wrong with any of the MIE Docs. The vintage leather is stiffer and corrected grain giving it a smooth appearance and there is a bit more of a break in period, but it is durable for everyday wear. A decent wax keeps them looking good. Buff them for more shine if you like. Horween leather is excellent and has been around for a long time.. There are different types of leather from Horween. One of my MIE Docs is the Horween Dublin. It was very supple and soft from the start. Horween chromexcel is widely used and is also very supple from the start, though it tends to show scuffs and scratches pretty easily. Nothing a good conditioner/balm can't take care of though. Hope this is helpful.
@@Lonefyre1980 Thank you so much! I was not expecting such a quick response but I have your perfect advice that I wanted! ❤️❤️❤️
Yeah I like docks but I’m trying other ones soon hopefully, but overall wear what makes you happy
Doc Martens removed the wooden shank and recently made pairs will KILL your feet. Buy Solovair instead, the original manufacturer who still makes Doc clones following the original recipe that are more authentic than the current "genuine" docs.
why if a pair doesn’t have the shank would kill my feet?? serious question
@@be_trix If a shoe has any kind of heel, the tendons in the arch of your feet are forced bear the weight of your body, a job for which they are inadequate. A shank transfers the weight to the ball of your foot, which is better engineered for the job. Shoes with out a shank can even result in tears to the tendon.
@@be_trixit makes ur archs collapse 🥲
all 3 pairs are less than a cople weeks old or you were them once a month
Where are your boots from? I heard that the Chinese made ones are worse than the Vietnamese made ones, and the best quality is the English version, is that true?
All of my Docs are MIE (Made in England) I had two Chinese made pairs several years ago. One developed cracks in the leather in less than a year. The other had an uneven welt on one boot which made it look crooked, but it was still usable. Thanks for watching!
I love docs, but it's unfortunate that the quality of the soles on the made in England boots that are produced today are inferior to the Docs made 20 years ago. The leather is also thinner.
Dr. Marten makes a reasonably good sneaker and I love sneakers 😅😅😅
Have worn Docs for decades and quality has gone way down unfortunately and this includes the England models, damm shame. It’s hard to buy Docs when Thursdays exist.
I got my 1914 docs resoled over 2 years ago
What kind of sole? Doc Marten sole? Vibram? Etc?
@@Lonefyre1980 proper doc marten sole even still said made in England on like the original sole
I wish they made the ‘crazy horse’ brown colour way in the UK too
Interesting that some reviews/youtube videos/commenters say the sole wears out quickly, while other say it lasts a long time.
I weigh around 100kg, walk a lot (10000 steps MINIMUM per day, days with 15000 steps are no exception, and if I'm in the mood I can do 20000-25000 on a nice Saturday) and I don't like switching shoes. I wear a single pair of shoes to work, for errands, for taking longs walks (mostly on paved surfaces), for everything really. All brands and types of shoes I've bought so far have worn out quickly, especially the soles. Sometimes I wear holes in the soles within six months.
Would Doc Martens be a good choice for me? I wouldn't mind spending the extra money for the Made in England version, if I could be reasonable certain the boots would hold op for, say, two years in the circumstances I described above.
Hi. Thanks for watching! In my experience (Made in England) Docs are well made with soles that last, especially my first pair from the 1990s. I am confident they should last you. Depending on the shape/volume of your foot, you may or may not need an insole to dial in the fit since they do not come in half sizes. (One gripe I forgot to mention in my video)
That being said, there are a lot of variables to consider for how long a sole will last. For example, I don't wear my Docs everyday. When I do wear them I'm usually walking between 5000-10000 steps, maybe less. Mine see some pavement but mostly flat interior hard surfaces or carpet. I weigh about 62kg. Your gait will also affect how the soles wear on any shoe. All these factors and only using one shoe/boot for everything is going to wear most soles more quickly.
You may want to fork out more money for some more expensive resoleable boots if you are wearing them hard and they are your only shoe/boot. (Redwing, Truman Boots, Nick's Boots, are just a few examples) Docs apparently can be resoled (or so I was told) but not many cobblers that I know of will do it (at least where I live). Or if they resole them it may not be a Doc Marten sole. (They may us Vibram, etc.)
Hope this is helpful.
@@Lonefyre1980 Thank you for your extensive reply! This is absolutely helpful.
I think what I'll do is, next time I'm in the shopping center near where I live, is ask the cobbler there what brand/type he recommends for longevity.
@@SolarWebsite I would get solovair instead they are more durable better quality on all aspects and more confortable even compared with the made in England from DM and they are cheaper , pretty much the same looks besides the yellow stitching
@@Patrick-nc6kk On February 13th (almost exactly 4 months ago) I bought a pair of Dr Martins. Probably not the made in England ones, but I'm not sure. They were €200 at a brick-and-mortar shop here in the Netherlands. They were bloody uncomfortable for 2-3 days, after that they quickly got better and since then I've been wearing them without any problem every single day. I use them pretty much as I described above.
The good news:
* They're very comfortable, much more so then I thought, especially during the first couple of days 😁😁
* The upper leather part is still perfect
* The insides are still perfect
* Laces still perfect (cheap laces sometimes peel and then quickly thereafter break)
The bad news:
* The soles are already wearing.... I measured the profile depth when I got them, but I forgot what it was. About 2.5mm I think. Under the ball of my feet, the profile is almost completely gone. In 4 months! That's not a problem yet, in my use case I don't really need the profile. Also, the soles are quite thick so once I've worn the profile off the wear may slow down considerably, so they may still last a long time. Will they make it to the two-year mark? I doubt it. I thought this aspect of the shoes would have been better.
So, in short: great boots to walk around in (after a break-in period), not so sure yet about the durability of the soles
Next pair I may go for the Solovairs, they seem to cost about half.
Silk pyjamas, silk pyjamas
She was wearing silk pyjamas
Usual outfit, big pith helmet
Dr. Martens and silk pyjamas
--Thomas Dolby
That's a lot of money to be spending on yellow thread.
There's nothing in the boots (even Made In England) to justify the price.
i think the martens look sooo good but the materials and the build is very cheap.
Yeah, the look, is timeless. I get more compliments wearing my Docs than when I wear my Alden Indy 405s. If they have special edition MIE collabs like with Horween, I recommend jumping on that.
If you searching for the old Quality Never buy a new pair of Docs. Buy a pair of Solovair!
Thanks for the comment. Thought about Solovairs for a time, but I prefer the profile/toe box of the Made in England Docs. So far my more recent MIE docs are going strong. 7 years and counting for one of my black pairs...
Man trägt was einem gefällt und nicht wegen anderer Menschen, um deren Aufmerksamkeit zu erhalten, und das zerlegen von Schuhen in die Hälfte finde ich lächerlich, was kommt heute nicht aus Asien.
TAKE AWAY THE YELLOW STICHING AND THEY LOOK LIKE ANYTHING ELSE….
Guys like this probably sleep with there boots next to them…..
Dr martens are made cheaply now and overpriced. Also, no shank and cheap leather.
okay however not everyone cares if other people notice their shoes or not … if you crave attention okay but no reason to generalize.
The Nazi boot, so curious how a boot designed by a Nazi for Nazis became popular.