Paul McCartney on Badfinger and Pete Ham
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
- Paul McCartney talks about writing “Come And Get It” for Badfinger and praises the talents of the late great Pete Ham. #paulmccartney #badfinger #peteham #tomevans #mikegibbins #joeymolland #oobujoobu
Many have commented on the slightly unnatural appearance of this clip. Here's the original file from which the interview was upscaled: drive.google.com/file/d/1vRR8uNkgx1v5uFKjpj8RfZs5sFqOT89n/view?usp=sharing
(I also flew in some higher-quality audio of the parts that were included in VH1's Behind The Music special: czcams.com/video/WWEV_-Ca2oc/video.html)
If there's a hell, Badfinger's manager, Stan Polley, is a crispy critter right about now.
A story with a very happy beginning and a tragic ending.
Badfinger's story is one of the saddest. They got screwed so bad.. two of the band took their own lives.
Who did they get screwed by? Cuz if it was record execs doesn’t that point at Apple? Was another label involved by that time?
@@hklinkerwas their manager Stan Polley
Rollers were another with their manager and Jimmy Saville,leave it at that.
@@hklinker Their manager. He was a sociopath and kept the broke while they made millions.
I'm a Badfinger fan, but I think Pete Hamm and Tom Evans had been wrestling with their own personal demons, and they simply couldn't overcome their internal struggles. Many artists and bands have suffered great rejections, but somehow they find a way to push through the hard times and emerge on the other side, with varying degrees of success, despite whatever extrenal pressures they may have had to endure. How many bands get a head start with a Paul McCartney-penned song that becomes a hit? I'm not judging the two Badfinger guys; I realize their pain and sorrow were legitimate; however, if the four of them would have been there for one other through thick and thin, and if they had assured one another... "no matter what happens, we will get through these hard times, we'll be there for one another, we'll keep working on new material, we'll tour, we'll support each other as bandmates" (something along those lines), they could have risen above their many disappointments and figured out a way to stay together, work hard together, and find happiness and fulfillment together. If only. . .
I’m 65 years old,and I’m SO THANKFUL for CZcams. When we were younger, we didn’t get to see all these great videos and interviews. 😊
I’m 59 and I feel the same way.
I'm 52 but old enough to agree 100%.
Think about it.
We had to wait for Circus, Cream, Hit Parader magazines to get any information on our favorite bands. And it was very limited . We'd play an album and just stare at the cover, the gatefold or the back of the album. It's all we had and had nothing else to compare it to so we were happy
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@@AlmostReady504 agreed, but then again I’ve learned some things in this Information Age that I probably didn’t want or need to know.
Me: I just love that song!
Band: we hate that song and always did.
Me: what great guitar solo or drum track!
Insider: that wasn’t a band member that was a studio musician.
🙄😂
65 this yr same here. Seen Ringo, George,Paul, and alot more from the 70s it's good to see some of the shows I was actually at like monsters of rock "88" And Zeppelin,stones,the who and more in "77" just great times back then ☮️
Stan Polley was a reprehensible human being.
Love Pete Ham forever.
Apple signs a new group and Paul knocks off a demo of a #1 hit in 30 min and tells them not to change it because its going to be a hit! WOW that is like Babe Ruth pointing to where he is going to hit a home run! The great ones are truly GREAT !
I was thinking the same thing all along. McCartney is just a hit writing machine.
The one I remember most is Sgt Pepper's "Lovely Rita". Paul got a ticket for where he was parked, drives to the studio and writes a song about it... damn! As a kid that was one of my favorite songs from that album.
I love the Beatles and Badfinger. I never liked this song.
@@rosewoodsteel6656 THEY wrote better songs than this! Day After Day makes Come and Get It sound like a nursery rhyme.
@@DrTomoculus Absolutely! And I always liked Baby Blue, as well. Come and Get it sounded like something the Archies would have done, imo.
@@rosewoodsteel6656 It is very bubblegum. I think a lot of what McCartney does sounds just on the edge of bubblegum or euro vision 1972.
Badfinger were such a brilliant band..
Pete hamm ❤️
Paul is a genius
Love McCartney and that determination, "30 minutes, right, I can do it!" and he always did it.
I could listen to Macca tell anecdotes all day…💭
I was raised on The Beatles by my father and we still play them all the time solo and as The Fab Four. When I was 4 years old there was the tragic news about Lennon and that was 1980 Pete Ham was already gone. I took Badfinger as along with ELO the best to come out of the Beatles and years later found out the tragic story of Pete, Tom, and what depression and getting screwed did. I still love both bands, but am haunted by the histories as many of us are. It's our job as musicians those of us know this music to carry it on and go against the grain of modernity. Let's do our best to continue George, John, Tom, and Pete. You are dearly missed by all of us Rest In Peace.
No matter what was their best
That's a rocking tune!!!
Also baby blue
Name of the Game is a powerful song.
Day after Day
Rest In Peace, Pete, and thanks for the music, mate.
Amazing what Genius can do.
What a super talent Pete Ham was and badfinger were a great group, they made some great songs.
So Sad. They should have waited. They would have Won BIG in the End.
That was a great song.
Uh.... I think Paul may vie been IN THE ZONE writing , performing and producing no .1 songs in 30 minutes........
Badfinger was such a tragic story...rock and roll music can be unforgiving, but their circumstances were Behind The Music material on steroids.
They could have made so much more music...instead they became casualties like so many artists, particularly of that era.
It's harder than it looks. (AC/DC)
Ham is in the 27 club
Macca looks strangely AI
He does
Yeah, they've AI upscaled the video, which, while making some things look more detailed, can also produce weird artifacts that weren't there originally, and create a sort of "waxy" look to the whole thing.
@@omnipop4936 I wondered what was going on with it. Thanks for the clarification.
I wish I could get through ten minutes in a day without hearing the following terms ' Narcissist '
AI
' literally '
Too bad Pete did not reach out to Paul to tell him what was happening. Maybe Paul could have helped him, saved him.
I keep thinking that SAME THING.
Suicidals can't think clearly. They view their problems as impossible to overcome.
💯 Terrible loss of brilliant artists. I have loved Badfinger from the beginning.
This is Paul we're talking about. I doubt he would have given a toss.
@@cd3949 Hard to say.
McCartney's world-class glibness on full display at the end there 🙄
I think that is perhaps just the way he sees the world - maybe it was part of the reason that he was able to be so successful?
Can't stand him
@@dodibenabba525 jealousy gets you nowhere in life son
@jason698 it's not jealousy, he's a luciferian.
And that is the genius of Paul McCartney. That guy can play everything! He's a human demo-making machine! It helps that Badfinger were simply badass.
It sounds like a Beatles song.
When that song first came out, being played on AM radio stations [in the US] with its low-fidelity, it had me fooled thinking it was The Beatles.
I used to live in the house next door to Badfinger member Tom Evans...a neighbor who knew the band and Tom very well told me this story....
Tom was at home in 'Berry Hill Avenue' in Knowsley Village Liverpool...with his wife one sat' night when the door bell rang - there was the band, telling him they had to go and do this gig that had come in...he left saying he was sorry to his wife having to leave her home alone....It was while he was travelling to this gig..in the van!...that he put pen to paper and wrote this classic world famous song....'Without You'....RIP Tom Evans & Pete Ham....both took their own lives - :(
Nice interview with Billy.
RIP: Pete Ham, Tom Evans, and Mal Evans, a cast of dozens. Many Thanks to Bernstein and Chomsky, Unwin, Halliday, Derek and the domino's, Alan Parsons, Danny O'Keefe, Spencer Davis, Tara Browne, Angela Lansbury, David Crosby, Dino, Keith, ByrdHollieStoneMarmelade, and the queen.
Are you blind, deaf and dumb? 🤦🏻♂️😅
In 1969 ??? I was in a Local Band in Miami some how I ended up with the Ranes by that time. We did Photos a demo 8 to 10 songs, being full of Piss and Vinegar I got us into Capitol Records in Miami, long story short the Rep had a cassette tape of a New Group he played That Song for us I became a Instant Fan before it was Ever Released on the Air. My little Two Cents 🙏
Wow! Macca in hyper-speed composing and recording mode! Lucky the studio was set up and he was so nearby. Was the demo made at Abbey Road? Paul's demo is a great version of this great pop song. It's out there on YT.
Why didn't Paul, et al, intercede against the doings Stan Polley which ultimately led to the death Pete Ham? It's curious that monetary or media or legal help wasn't forthcoming.
I don't think anyone is gonna say they were part of that. "Who, me?"....
I think Paul had troubles enough of his own at that point.....
Exactly as I've asked that question a lot myself. -Also Paul here forgot that Pete Ham wrote the verse and Tom Evans wrote the chorus to Without YOU!
I've often wondered about that too. Where was the big powerful Beatles during Badfingers business rip off?
Setting aside all of the politics of the era, it stands to reason that this was a great song.
None of us, the public, were involved or responsible for any of the losses. Just the sales, please.
So great ❤
I think George sat in with them on occasion. "Come and get it" is soundtrack for Peter Sellers/Ringo Starr film "The magic Christian", a hilarious social parody.
George played slide on some BF.
The Magic Christian is one of the all time great movies. The Badfinger songs used and how they were filmed was amazing. Carry On in particular.
Sat in? He helped produced the Straight Up LP and played slide on Day After Day, then Badfinger helped back George at the Bangladesh concert and they also played on George's 1st solo LP All Things Must Pass and Ringo's 1st solo LP. George gave Pete Ham his famous cherry Gibson SG that George played throughout '66 on Revolver, Rain , Paperback Writer etc. After Pete killed himself his co writer in the band Tom Evans hanged himself a year later, pretty sad stuff. 👀
@@soarornorno its not lol. It's one of the worst films of all time.
@@cuda426hemiJust FYI Pete passed in 1975 and Tom in 1983. Got to meet and talk to Tom after a concert in late 1982. Very nice person. Badfinger's story is just plain sad but they left us with some great music!
Gracias.
I recall the first hit record Badfinger had in the US: "Come and Get It." That song played on the low-fidelity of AM radio stations at the time, many listeners in the US thought it was The Beatles performing the song. As a youngster it had me fooled for a while.
Man, I was just barely past sucking my thumb but thought it sounded very BUBBLEGUM. In just a bit, though, I was in awe of Badfinger and Ham's songs.
Couldn't Paul have warned Pete Hamm to not get involved with Stan Polley. That might have saved his life. If there is a hell, Polley is burning in it.
Thing is, that's unfair. How would Paul know to distrust Polley?
The question is more - couldn't Paul (and the other 3) have intervened to help out Badfinger - financially, legally - at their worst time of need? Would have been nothing for them to do (one phone call, one check) and Badfinger might still be alive.
Pete,might have thought his time had come and gone. If he would have just waited a few years,which goes quickly,he would have been rolling in it.He would have needed a rake to rake it in, Touring,Merchandise,Interviews,Etc. The Whole story,What a shame.
Things were like that then. The music machine might get behind you and hype you, and then drop you when you produced your best work.
Paul might sound egotistical for DEMANDING that they do it EXACTLY as he demo-ed it, BUT they were an unknown band and it was GREAT advice. A similar thing happened to The Guess Who in Canada. They were told to 'follow the formula' of their first hit and if they did, then they would NEVER have to 'follow the formula' again. They made their second hit a near carbon copy of their first hit, and NEVER had to do so again.
Paul is very glib and his own worst enemy. The way he talks about things colours our perceptions of events, often in a more negative light. When you listen to the recording session itself, he is not demanding or controlling at all. He is patient and supportive, but he is clearly the producer and knows what he wants. As it should be.
GOAT
This was a great hit (and still a great song), but my personal favorite of Badfinger was/is *_Day After Day._*
Phil McDonald was a great engineer for many including the Beats and Squeeze
Not mentioned, apple records was said to not fulfill royalty payments promised to the group. It's a tough gig anyhow, but imagine not knowing how you're going to pay the electric bill, rent etc. Badfinger comprises a multi-layered tragedy. I didn't even know until last year, but it's a worthy read.
😎👍🏻🎵🎶🙏🏻 thank you Paul he’s a master
I was about 14 when this came out and had just started smoking weed. I thought it has to be about Hashish which was very popular at the time.
This clip is probably at least 25 years old.
I have also thought that Come Get It would have also been a great song for The Beach Boys to record.
once again ,Paul takes a nap and wakes up with a hit , not fair .Sadly Pet and Tom never got to know just how long their music has carried on
Why does Paul look like he has been AI'd here? There are weird shadows on his face and his mouth movements are strange also.
This is real, but in the near future, we will know what to believe.
Video quality of the times...
I was thinking the same thing.
hmmmm...maybe he's not the real Paul after all?...heh heh! - :)
Same thought. The video must have been upscaled with AI
I've been hoping for years that someone would make a biopic of Badfinger. They had as much promise as any band of the era and it's such a tragic story of betrayal that led to their demise (literally in the case of Pete and Tom). I thought that maybe the iconic ending of Breaking Bad (no song better suited the moment than Baby Blue) would spike interest in the band but in any case, their legacy will live on.
todd rundgren produced their Straight Up lp....ie baby blue and day after day
Badfinger for me at the time was like the drug that helps people withdrawal from heroin that was The Beatles.
A1 Paul
Listen to Badfinger's "Straight Up" from start to finish, you won't be sorry you did :)
Don’t ruin historical video with filters.
Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. i think that Badfinger were destined for superstardom.
There was some sort of odd negative energy that seemed to follow the boys around in this world.
I saw them once. It was in the mid 1980s at a club called The Chance in Poughkeepsie, NY.. The gig was the very first night that the club's monitor guy was working. New guy who really had no idea of what he was doing. Feed back. I mean FEEDBACK!!! Relentless feedback. So bad that the band had to leave the stage. They told the audience that they would return when the problem was solved.
It took a half hour before the problem was fixed. Much of the audience had received free tickets from the local radio rock station. So having invested nothing in the show, by the time the band returned, the room was almost empty.
Being a huge fan of the band, there was doubt that I was going to stay. And so glad that I did because when they returned they were brilliant and I got to hear and see a great show.
I felt so bad for the band because there were only about thirty people still there out of an original audience of about three hundred...
Here's Paul playing all the instruments and double tracking his voice. Yeah he famously did it before the Beatles showed up for Abbey Rd. Badfinger recorded it a week later.
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I never knew Badfinger were Indian until Paul's impression of them
Indian? two were Welsh and two were from Liverpool, haha!
Reintroduced the band,had been working under the ivys
From around 1965-1973 Paul McCartney was just on a different level as a songwriter.. he's had plenty of other great songs but he was just money for those 8 or 9 years.
This isn't exactly the entire story that Paul didn't go into here. A music journalist had commented to Ron Griffiths, how fabulous it must be to be on the Beatles label, Apple. And Griffiths responded w/ something along the lines of, "Well, it hasn't worked out that great for us, so far". He wasn't pleased w/ the attention the band had been getting.. and rightfully so. McCartney read the comment when it came out and that's why he gave them the song.
Spot on.
Has McCartney ever done Come & Get It live? Would like to hear that ...
Yes -- it was in the main set during the 1st European leg of Paul's On The Run Tour in late 2011. czcams.com/video/0t2zz4kVzeg/video.html
@@OobuJoobu Thanks, buddy. That was great. It must be the hardest thing for McCartney to choose a set list from his extraordinary catalogue & his favourite covers. Quite the dilemma. 👍
I was looking at his right eye the whole time. Both his eyes move but they move differently.
True. But in fairness, Billy has better control over that orb. Just watched Jack Elam last night in a cowboy movie and his dodgy eye had a mind of its own. All over the place!
There was a lot of incredible misfortune that befell Badfinger - not mentioned in this video.
I’ve never seen anybody else ask this: Why didn’t Badfinger play any of thier song’s st , George Harrison’s Bangladesh concert?
The music industry can be such a nasty and vicious game.😢
Amazing he did that track so quickly. Badfinger has to be one of the saddest rock stories ever.
He didn’t mention Tom
Pete Hamm 'Topped' himself (committed suicide) cos one of the band members of Bad Finger claimed a share of the Copyright for Without You and the Lawyers took all the money accrued from the Broadcasting Rights during the dispute which were substantial as I believe Without You is only song to hit No 1 on both sides of Atlantic with several Artists, Mariah Carey, Harry Nillson etc , to rub salt into wound the song got a special award at Hall of Fame and the guy who disputed the Copyright appeared in person to be given award despite everyone knowing it was Pete Hamm, he was going to a Recording Session at night and told his wife as he left he would not be long away and always missed her , that is whete the song came from, the guy who challenged it did not claim the Lyrics but cos he played an Instrument on the song .
Wow, you've completely got the story wrong. Besides your curious lack of punctuation, that is a woefully inaccurate statement of why Pete did what he did. Do some more homework on this and maybe mention a piece of shit named Stan Polley.
Paul helping Badfinger was a curse.
....in a good way ...no?
True.
No, without his help they would have never made it out the door. They were good, but not good enough in the Iveys days. They needed his push.
If Paul says do it this way..
In the States' , there was a story to this song about some nut in New York won a lottery or something , and was throwing $ 100,000 dollars out of a skyscraper window to the streets below ... ..........
The Magic Christian, the film for whose soundtrack this song was written, has a very similar scene at its conclusion.
Looks like Bill Shepherd to me. :))))
Is this Ai?
Pete Ham wrote the verse and Tom Evans wrote the chorus to WITHOUT YOU Paul and my question has always been why the BEATLES themselves did not help Badfinger with financial help and report the BADFINGER manager Stan Polley for being a complete fraudulent manager of them.
Well he was Jewish. They should know. 😂
Just after badfinger signed with Apple, and after a couple albums, the beatles broke up. Apple lost tons of money because the beatles were not great at some business decisions. Brian Epstein had died and all 4 beatles lawyered up. They couldn't help badfinger because all their money was tied up when Apple folded. It's also a sad case of be careful what you sign.
Paul wrote lots of hits for lots of artists. George wrote "It Don't Come Easy" and "Photograph" for Ringo. Did John ever write a hit for anyone?
John did co-write Fame with David Bowie.
@@OobuJoobu - Co-writing with the artist is not exactly the definition of writing a hit for someone. That would be like saying Pete Hamm co-wrote "Come And Get It" or Peter Asher co-wrote "A World Without Love" or Mary Hopkin co-wrote "Goodbye, etc.
@@shyman99 There are also the songs he wrote for Ringo (I’m The Greatest, Goodnight Vienna, Cookin’ In The Kitchen Of Love).
@@OobuJoobu - I keep having to go back to my original sentence. The key word in it is "hits".
@@shyman99 John wrote Bad To Me for Billy J Kramer which was a UK no.1 in 1963 and despite what the songwriting credit says, John wrote the song alone.
Fortunately, for the musical creativity of Pete Ham and Tom Evans, along with cohorts Joey Molland and Mike Gibbons, Badfinger will always have a significant presence in music. But the abominable screw-over of Badfinger will also be a tragic element of music history.
Many years ago, as a journalist, I covered the appearance in Montclair, NJ, of Eddie Brigati, once the co-lead vocalist and songwriter of The Young Rascals, an American melodic-rock band that began in 1964. The band. later known as The Rascals, had several AM radio hits. However, its members received almost no royalties due to their onerous contract (also financially screwed was Tommy James & The Shondells; for awhile, Tommy James resided in the adjacent town of Clifton).
Brigati appeared before a grade-school assembly where his girlfriend was the music instructor. Eddie spoke with the students about his career and generally about being a musician. Asking the kids how many intended to go to college and major in music, Eddie advised them not to major in music.
Instead, he told them to protect their future careers by majoring in finance and economics or even the rudiments of law and minor in music.
Like to hear some Stan Polley Karma stories. And his offspring still paying for his horrific deeds.
Bill MAHr is so similar looking to Pete Ham. AI upscaling is very off putting. Thought it was I generated at first.
Great song but Paul should have included it on Abbey Road.
When this came out I thought it was the Beatles. Lol No wonder. I was right
How sad about Badfinger. They could have gone on to have a long career. It’s one of the biggest tragedies in Rock and Roll history.
The Beatles could not help Pete because they asked to be released from Apple to sign a a big deal with Warner and the Beatles graciously allowed them to leave . Leaving Apple ultimately cost Pete and Tom their lives. Certainly Paul or George would told them Stan Polley had to go and was ripping them off. A very tragic story .
It's a very sad story of presumptuousness and bullying. Badfinger had a music contract with Apple records but Pete got the idea that they could do better. So he drags the band to a slimy agent who makes a bunch of promises but the contract is a hack, they get almost nothing from their hard work. After a few years they realize they got taken, but felt they were locked into the prison. Pete finds out he has no money and tells they other band members they got taken and there is no way out, Tom really gives Pete a tongue lashing and makes him feel like it is all his fault. Pete commits suicide even though his wife is pregnant. Tom and the band try to move on but the bullies conscience plagues him. Their hit song plays out. "Can't live, if living is without you, can't live, can't live anymore" He commits suicide. To all the agents that take advantage of their clients," Shame on you"!
I love hearing Paul talk about Badfinger. A great band that got royally screwed over and never got the accolades they deserved.
Is this AI generated?
The footage was uploaded in very low resolution to the VH1.com website in 2000, and upscaled from the original using the program Topaz Video AI.
Yeah, I noticed it as well. Good eye. Gonna get more of this and eventually people won't know what is legit or fake. Sad.
had Badfinger stayed with apple they would have been rich and happy! they switched record companies and their manager stole all their money and was set up to take any other money they made in the future! That is why Pete Ham was so upset! it was a no win situation in his mind.
No Apple was going out of business and the b and couldn't get anything done because of the infighting between the Beatles and Allen Klein. That's why they went to Warner Bros. Pete Ham was on Polley's side against everyone else until he found out about it. He killed himself because he was in a drunken state, angry about the lost money, and feeling guilt about having an affair with a roadies wife and causing their marriage to end.
So sensitivity put Paul “Went and topped himself” ever thought of becoming a Samaritan councillor 😏
no need...😏
Ok then, I guess I won't. Thanks Dr Paul.
Couldn't Paul step in to help them. The deaths of the two men that young will always be so upsetting. They were broke, and nothing was improving for them.
Yeah Pete Ham didn't just kill himself for no reason. Their managers stole all their money and they were broke when they should have been rich. That's basically what happened and then the other guy killed himself later. The music business is a rough business and usually the artist gets screwed. If you want to be a star of stage and screen Lookout it's rough and mean It's a Long Way to the Top If you want to rock and roll
Why is Paul so A.I. looking?
The story of Badfinger is the most tragic of all rock bands...........they were young and naive and were royally screwed over so bad that 2 of the 4-band members took their own lives.
Two of Ivies people died in that group, Paul.
Tell the truth.
They were ROBBED!
AI
McCartney’s demo is so much better than Badfinger. There’s a recording of McCartney trying to teach them and it’s painful how slow Badfinger is to learn.
Paul didn't mention why Pete Ham topped himself, Stan Polley their manager, ripped them off badly. Bit heartless to say "there was no need"
I just reviewed the chart success. Not a 1.
Irony..GM brought " how do you do" to the Beatles and THEY rejected it.
We cant go back to liverpool and look people in the face singing this!!!
Paul does the same thing to Badfinger who say they also want to sound like their welsh roots....but no!!!!
Both songs were number 1s.
But the Beatles........tough cookies.