TOTAL FAIL//Operator Error: I Failed-Episode 141
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It's not a failure, it's a First Attempt In Learning .
it looks great, matt black with recessed screws looks really clean and easy to keep clean.
Great design. As for preferences: matte finish and flush screw heads. And YES, the screw slots MUST all align in the same direction when done. As for content, I'm loving all of the DIY/how-to content. I get it that the ultimate goal is to go sailing but, for those of us who own boats and have our own visionary ideas of outfitting them, your material is priceless. Besides, as a nerdgineer, it's just cool and entertaining.
I say it all the time. If you don’t fail occasionally you’re not learning new stuff. Pretty bold to jump into that without some practice! It’s going to be an awesome set-up. Thanks for sharing!
Matte Black for the win! Incredible first try, love that you're not afraid to dive into new tech! Maybe you're over-ambitious to some, but way too many people won't even try to stretch themselves to learn something new. The feeling you get when you've accomplished a new project, learned a new skill, achieved a new personal win - so great! Sail on brother!!
I’d go for recessed Torx screws, the matte black and keep the bilge switches and fuses the way they are for visual consistency - touching the fuse caps has no effect on the functioning of the switches. Good luck with the second attempt. Love what you’re doing!
I love the matt black and the recessed screws and your mistakes are great learning experiences which will only make the project perfect in the end. Thanks for the informative video. Cant wait to see the extension table and your changes.
Mat black is the way to go. Gloss looks cheap .Mat looks professional. Flush screws.
More space between breakers is best. It's going to look awesome ,you are the man that has a gift for building quality things.
Not failure. Just a test run!
Matt black, countersunk screws and the breakers are great
Keep up the good work and don’t beat yourself up over things that go wrong. It happens to us all!
Learning a 4 part cut is very in depth compared to a single, thanks for showing us even the learning curves.
I think you and your family are doing just fine. Everything you cover are projects that you need to get done in your refit. Keep up the good work. People just don’t understand it takes your projects twice or three times as long just to set up shots. A lot of people just don’t have the patience’s for that type of detail.
Never stop building! This is more useful than watching someone journaling their vacation.
Matt black with recessed screws = YES. Your fail is nothing but education, one way or another we all pay for our education. Great job. Really enjoy the way you explain your work. Also looking forward to seeing you under sail.
Also agree with the Matt black and flush screw heads.
Wires are HEAVY. I worry about the panel cracking or bending under the strain.
I’d imagine they will cable tie to the support frame and ease the weight on the breakers/board
Love the panel reinforcements in the next episode!
You made the first climb Everest. Not a fail, but a really high bar for your first project. Hang in there - Perfection takes time.
Looks good! Matt black and recessed screws look clean!
We all learn from our mistakes. Total learning process!
It's only an epic fail if it happens over and over and over. Sounds like a learning curve. Love the channel.
Great video! I, too, prefer the look of the matte finish acrylic, and the flush when on breakers are a good choice. I think the flat screw heads have a nicer finished look. Beyond those things, I recommend electric breaker/fuse switches over older fuses (those glass tube fuses can be a pain and I have had issues with the glass fuses corroding even before they were put into use), and since you have some extra acrylic, maybe consider a full sized cut out for the V-Touch 70 to make it flush mount and glue/attach some acrylic on the back side for mounting purposes. All the best!
Machining plastic especially with a Laser will build heat within the material. Plastic will grow considerably even more then .030” with what it sort of looked like. If heat build up is a problem consider doing the process in steps allowing a cool down phase.
Personally, I like the Flush screws better then the button head screws and the satin finish side is better also.
Marty Didier
Looks very good. Yes its been screw up. Use the flat head screws. Adjust the fuse holders so your fingers don't hit the switch as you change the fuse.
The setup you are using is far better than a drill press & dremal tool. Learning new software is fun. With the extinction kit it will supper.
Man thats New Tech so yes you got to learn it for sure best choice is matt Black screws Flat look real tidy Going to Look Awesome Keep on Building mate Thanks
I gotta say you guys have really stepped up your video production quality - very nice!
I have an Atomstack S20 up here in Melbourne and sometimes you just can't use the honeycomb bed. In your case you just might want to use a sheet metal or plywood waste board. In the past I used plywood with tacks driven through with the heads flush spaced every 1 to 2 inches apart on a grid, that way your air assist will work properly on the through cuts. I use a large headed nail instead of screws which are harder to get them all protruding at the same height. Obviously you will put your workpiece on the side with the nail points up. Also may want to weigh your workpiece down with a couple of weights that you can very carefully move around one at a time while the piece is cutting so the laser head doesn't hit them, while not bumping the piece out of registration. Highly recommend that you air cut it first for maybe half the job, without the laser firing(or maybe on very low power just enough to score the paper backing), just to get comfortable with how the D1 is going to track and practice moving the weights around without bumping it.
Love the diy-aspect of your channel! There used to be Teal from onboard lifestyle and Mads from SailLife. But the passed two years have definetly put you guys up there with them. Always proper quality jobs. Love it!
Don't look at it as a failure it was a prototype OQ build: did the process work? Did the machine work? Did the materials work? You found things that worked and things that didn't you now have steps in place to move forward and try again. A fail would have been well crap this happened now I'm back to paying that other company for the breakers and bigger panels.
Keep it up you got this!
Hi Mr. T, I would split the entire panel into matching pieces. sure, then you actually have visible joints in the entire view. but, this saves a lot of time and nerves and the purchase of an extension. I can already hear you saying - this is not my claim - you are right. the panel, for example divided into four parts, wouldn't look so bad. good luck & greatings from germany !
Old time Machinist I'm 81 he's older. Spend time to make jigs. For instance . registration bolt down for Honey comb tray so it doesn't move on bed. - Hold down clamps for floppy panel bits. Put screws in holes for section one holes to register panel as you move it to section 2 etc. time well spent = better job and frequently less time
Nice work. Technology is grand when one knows how to use it and it works. You will get there. Perfection comes through practise. Great tool....wouldn't mind owning one myself.
Matt black and countersunk screws for sure, is it possible to flush mount the 7" screen, that would give it a cleaner look.
For starters, don't be concerned by those saying "Isn't this supposed to be a sailing channel?!?"
I personally enjoy the boat work videos from all of the sailing CZcamsrs just as much, if not more than the cruising content. But maybe that's just me.
Anyway..
Matte black and flush mount screws for sure.
Also, I agree with spreading out the bilge switches and their corresponding fuses a little further.
All in all, the new tech nowadays can be very daunting to get a grasp on. It's completely understandable that with only 2 days (I'm guessing a total of 15-20 hours total time over 2 days) of messing around the with new machine and the different software systems, this can happen. Luckily it wasn't a thousand dollar piece of material. Eat that $25, learn from it, and get it right the next time around!
Keep at it Dauntless crew! I'm looking forward to seeing you cruising the world!
The matt black looks fabulous
Maybe you should try various double sided tapes to hold the panel in place on the work table. Thicker tape might take out the sag as the cutting continues. Careful placement so it's not in the line of 'fire'. Know that some wood cutting devices use a vacuum table to hold the work.
One very popular sailing channel took 10 years to get their catamaran into the water. So what are people complaining about?
My only complaint is never realizing I wanted something on my catamaran until I watched your videos. Would like to see you do less stuff I can't do and must pay for to have it done. It's a continuous WTF experience. Starting with a resurrection of a catamaran most would walk away from after seeing the amount of damage.
If I want to see sailing I watch a home video the wife took. Gives me time to edit out all the stuff that can possibly be used as evidence at a later date.
I just loaded a $10,000 aluminum billet in my Haas UMC-1000SS and hit the start button and in about 18 hours I should have a half finished part if everything works correctly and it does not crash the part. This is the first time this program is being ran to make an actual part. The anxiety that goes along with hitting the start button is immense.
Matte black and flush screws will look dope! And easy to keep clean 😅
A channel about avoiding super expensive repairs. Sounds exactly like a sailing channel.
Matt black, Flush screws. Definitely a fuck up on your part, but, you could not know-assume the material would soften up as much as it did... So it is a learning curve! Congratulations!
Have you considered using the matt black faced acrylic with white sandwiched in-between. You could then use your laser to cut your text, cutting through the top black face and leaving the text showing in white.
Sailing anorak🤣...fail... first attempt at learning... Learning costs.... equipment, ingredients, suppliers..the list is endless... great watch!
I’m surprised you’re not back or flush mounting the Victron display.
Learning anything new that complex is challenging to say the least. Trying to learn how to use a new tool AND two new pieces of software just compounds the complexity exponentially. You learned from the experience and have a plan to fix it so Kudos to you for that. The matte side looks best for the reasons you mentioned with the fingerprints, plus it doesn’t glare back at you if you need to use a flashlight to see something.
Def the flush screws and the matte black. It's gonna look better than you'd have gotten from BSS just because it's custom and you got to make multiple versions of it. V1 is never as good as V2 on projects like that, I find.
Looks really cool. It’s interesting to see how you do it as my boat is completely the opposite. I only have two relays and those are for the engines’ glow plugs. I do have some Victron stuff - 1 MPPT, 1 inverter, 24/12 converter and two very small battery chargers; otherwise everything is analogue. I went the ridiculously simple route, which has advantages but is not quite as cool - literally as for me AC is just open a hatch. Anyway looking good and don’t worry about the sailing bit. Pure Sailing channels get boring really quick, I mean beach barbecue, catch a fish, get seasick, nice sunset and then repeat ad nauseam…
Awesome panel video, and flat, all the way!
Yow that's nice the technology to fabricate parts is amazing today. Just a point. I never install bilge pumps with an auto position switch as there is a possibility they can be left off. I always connect them to the 24 hour source and an indicator lamp to show operation of the pump. The manual option is always there
Yeah, that matt finish looks great.
Regarding the screws, I also prefer the countersunk heads, however I would be concerned with the strength of the acrylic. It's thin acrylic for such a large panel, will you be providing some additional support to it? The pressure required to toggle the breakers gets transferred to the acrylic as it bows under the pressure, resulting in all the forces being transferred through the screws.
Had all those troubles on an earlier system, well done so far.
I'm worried you aren't supporting the panel enough for the finished article, when you push rockers in the mid spans and the panel bends.
There seems little free space for stiffening struts to be used!
I like things flush but the color of the round screws just like better. maybe get a better looking flush mount screw. Maybe even paint the tops in different colors so each group has a different color screw to help guide to the zone faster.
I like the color coded screws suggestion. That'd make the groups even more identifiable at a glance. On a boat, in an emergency, any time saver is a godsend.
@@GodlessDad I was thinking I liked the color of the round screw then my mind kinda thought he he has 3 ladies who know how to paint with finger nail polish. we all know model paint also had many colors. I was also thinking colored labels but that can cause confusion since is the label for the breaker on the right or left but with colored screws bam you know instantly.
You haven’t fail if you haven’t gave up, that’s my understanding of failing when you give up, that’s when you have failed keep up the good work. I am very excited for you. I’m the same way. Love you videos.(matte black)
breakers are sweet and counter sunk. I have a 1500mm x 1500mm Openbuilds CNC over here on the west coast of FL. I am thinking of putting a laser module on it
You need a DYMO industrial labeler. Sheet label software is free and it will do heat shrink...for the next guy that owns your boat!
Its Matte for sure also just a learning curve keep up the great work crew !! :))
Failing is knowledge, don't ever fix the fail put it aside as a reminder. Your mind will fix all things if you forget the past you failed in. Only focus on what you can do not on what you did.. Yoda but he said it backwards~
You can add a laser crosshair and a camera to your machine, those can both be calibrated in the software like Lightburn. They dont need to be official accessories u can easily DIY those - theres nice videos on yt documenting the process. With the crosshair u can easily manually position the diode to the desired starting location and the camera allows you to track the position and progress but also has other uses like scanning the outline of the material. Dont get discouraged by the learning curve, im confident you will master it and its definatelly cool to watch. The extension kit in my opinion is the easiest way, to solve you current issue, but id still add both the crosshair and the camera since its not much of an investment.
Flush screews looks better, and the mat is definitely a better look.
Amazing project. Anything complex you do for the first time can need several attempts to get it dialed in. Not a failure by any stretch of the imagination. It would only be a fail if you give up.
Learning curve, not your fault. I'd go with matte finish and sunken screws. It's going 2 B sweet! Stay safe ❤️
Definitely flat screws and mat finish.
Sailing is boat work. You guys are building a new boat, that needs to be safe and comfort matters. Keep it up. There is plenty of time to sail in between boat work.
It was not an “Epic fail”, it was not a “learning curve”, it was an EPIC LEARNING CURVE.
With all the challenges of boat repair and now upgrades to meet your Desires for your Home on the Water. One would hope that there is some room for
mistakes or errors in one quality can and will happen. As you explained in the video new machines and new software all require time and understanding. I am confident that you will get your design and understand all the needed details to make it perfect for your designs. In watching your channel and family and what you did to get the 50 ready to go back in the water I believe your finish Sailing home will be everything you and your family expect it to Be. Great job
Learning curve and matte black flush screws so that their not in the way so you can feel better in the dark if you need to
Flush screw for the win
Why don't you use a matt black on white two tone acrylic sandwich. That way you can laser engrave the switch labels on the single sheet. I guess separate labels glued on makes it easier to change/add in the future, but the engraved labels on the single two tone sheet looks more like factory switch panels.
i like the countersunk screw
Nice work!! Not a fail, just a little set back. For what you are building I’d say you are on track.
Ty, that thumbnail pic had me smiling and thinking about the Breaking Bad series. Diversified ...
Matt finish, flat screw, not a mistake just the cost of learning a new w
Matte finish is definitely a plus it will not show scratches as it ages
Matte black & recessed screws. Really enjoy your channel. Is the panel strong enough to carry the wire load?
The learning is in the doing👍
No question. Flush all the way.
Mat finish with the flush screws for sure.
The intro commercial was hysterical!!! (Don't usually hear the word "Anal" in a TV commercial. )
Flat head screws, matte black and I think it looks awesome! Is there space to etch in the Dauntless logo? If not for forgetting to rehome that and the last booboo, I think you could have just filed down where it shifted and it would not have been noticeable at all.... and that was your first try! Awesome job!!! Frankly, it took my 5 or 6 tries to just print a term paper in college. So... you gain experience and try again!
Also, I shouldn't tell you this, but I am learning so much from you that you should probably be charging me!
Boat work is a big part of sailing.... can't wait to see you all sailing, though.
Awesome fail... that is not really a fail.. just a hiccup! Have a great week!
👍👍👍matt finish
Flush screws sir! Only way to go.
Not a failure. I started out with a low cost CNC router and it and I would make mistakes. When it did I referred to it as crazy Ivan. Now I have a $7k router and I still have mistakes, but they're all mine. I'm thinking about going back to the cheap hobby CNC so at least I can blame it instead of me:)
Countersink screws for sure
Learning new things is fun. Not a failure at all!
Thanks for sharing..
Thanks for watching!
love the preamble !! do you accept amex ?
Very Good for the first go
Flush Screw is the way to go
Learning curve, go Matt colour.
come sail to aruba when its done!
XTool makes an extension frame to enlarge the cutting area in a single set.
OK. Watch the entire video before commenting.
Mat black all the way. That was a great first attempt.
Mat black, learning curve
Fail, yes. Its ONLY an epic fail if you TOTALY FAIL, and can't get past the issues.
Soldier On Young Man!
Why not split it into 2 cuts and avoid having to buy the extension kit?
Also, could you put some aort of backerboard behind it when cutting ornuse thicker acrylic?
Matte Black definitely.
Yes good video, matt black wins no finger marks, flush screws much better to use switchs, sailing will happen, just waiit a bit, you have to do the fun stuff first.
Have you tried leave small tabs? It will avoid the sagging
Flush screws
Matte black 👍🏻
Comment Bilge pump fuse holders. Night check ride in a (then New) Piper 180 Cherokee. Instructor pulls a fuse - now as pilot what do you do? Got my penlight out selected the correct circuit out (landing light) . Ok instructor hands me the bayonet fuse holder to put back in place. IT WON't GO IN &*%%$ BRAND NEW.. Had to get out my Swiss army knife with the file to trim the metal edges of the bayonet. Unusual - yes - but glad it was during a check ride.
BEST SIMARINE NEREIDE PRO ;-)
Will it cut carbon fiber panels?
Love u guys. I got a large laser co2 100w. I can knock that out for free just need file and material u used so,I can order
Thanks for the offer George! I have the material in hand and the last parts coming Wednesday. I’m not going to let it beat me!