Benchcrafted Vice Hardware Review - 8 Months Use
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2018
- Benchcrafted hardware in my opinion is pretty much the best workbench hardware money can buy. In this video, I talk you through the Benchcrafted Glide Leg Vice, the Tail Vice and the Moxon Vice. My likes and dislikes about each of them, and how they fit into my workflow.
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If my ship ever comes in I'm getting these. As I'm nearly 70, I doubt it's going to happen. Nice review Matt.
I just watched your series on the bench build. Your so lucky to have access to all that machinery. I'm jealous lol. I really enjoyed your channel. Your work is first class
Thanks, Matt!! I’ll be building my bench soon. Benchcrafted is on the list. I’ve been saving for a while. Your review seals the deal. I downloaded your plans, but I’m going to get Shwarz’s book too. I’ll make sure to order from your link. Great stuff! I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Very good quality and you have a very good presence.
A little blue Loctite on the handle screw threads will keep them from loosening.
I was watching this video for probably the 3rd time and this time I got to the end without getting interrupted. I ordered the book using your link, thanks!
I opened youtube, saw your video and decided that I had to watch it, instead of working on my own video, that I'm supposed to release tomorrow. At least I have my priorities straight. Great review of the vices, I need to figure out what I'm going to do on the bench I'm working on and this certianly helps!
Love the honesty, Matt! Glad to know even the experts aren’t perfect at installing stuff!
That was helpful. I'm struggling on how to fit the tail vise into a bench with less overhang, so you showing how you did it helped greatly! Thanks!
Nice review. Nice bench! For the price to Australia these things are hugely expensive, so there should be no negatives! Good job!
That is such a work of art, I'm sure when you use it for the job it was built for it makes you feel all the hard work you put into it was well worth the great effort. I love the way you admitted to a couple of small mistakes 'I did use a bit of veneer here to bring this rail out a bit, I did have to notch it pout a bit in order to fit these bars under there' Makes me feel even I could attempt such a behemoth project
Well done Matt. Had read about this system through Chris Schwarz, but this walk through is incredibly handy.
Hey Matt, enjoying the videos. I researched leg vices when I was building my work bench about a year ago and narrowed it down to the bench craft criss cross, a linear bearing with steel rod and a chain leg vice. I went with the chain leg vice in the end because it was cheaper, easier to fit to a new or existing bench and is more forgiving if your measurements/angles are slightly out.
Are you still planning to do the tour of UK timber yards? If so add Surrey Timbers to your list if you can, highly recommended!
I take reviews more seriously when the creator grows shavings on their head. Well done, mate!
impressive I really liked this bench it would look good in my workshop thanks for sharing !!!
Good info ... my vises are all home made but I do get all tingly looking at those beefy shiny threads. Also dig the extra curls .. that's a good look for you 😁
Hiya, watching this again I can see that the strengths of the two fitted vices are mostly down to the design of your bench, your design... Stay safe... Steve...
Great demonstration!
Hi Matt, my tail vice vibrates too. It was bullet proof for the first year. I think the seasonal wood movement after is the reason for the noise. I've put 'dry' bike chain lube on it and that seems to make it go away until the humidity changes again.
thank you for your videos its very informative and helpful your explaining is very clear and easy to understand :)
Useful sir Estlea. Thank you for the recommendations. Nice hair art deco. I thought at the beginning that you dyed your hair. Hope that one day you can continue the review of your Axminster machines. Thenk you for all videos. Greetings from Canay Island mate.
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Great review Matt! Try a little dry lube (like for bicycle chains) on the Tail Vise screw. That should reduce the vibration.
Yep, I had the same disturbing chatter in the tail-vise. I was fretting over the cause possibly being my endcap ending up 1º out of square. Jameel at Benchcrafted responded promptly to my email with the same lubrication advice as above. Problem solved with one little squirt. What great hardware and customer service. These guys rock.
I agree that the tail vise install requires real care and precision, however I followed the Benchcrafted plans and instructions exactly, and did not run into any of the headaches you describe.
Your bench build video series and this follow-up are superb. Thanks, Matt.
I think that side vise with the scissor metal attachment is incredible mostly due to the sheer speed at w you can crank it. It is just so fast
Great review. Thanks
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One of the best product evaluations I have seen. A master presenter. Gave pros and cons and was honest when the mistakes were the result of "operator error". I wish more people on CZcams were like Matt...... I am subscribing.
I'd like to see another review on how the bench and hardware held up and what (and if) would you change anything on the bench.
Hey Matt, had the same "problem" with the tailvise. It sometimes was making the same noise. I solved the problem by slightly rounding of the corners of the iron plate that runs in the tracks/rails. This prevents it from "biting" in the tracks when being moved. Maybe it is of some use to you. keep up the good work!
That's what I was thinking. That, along with tightening the gap of the wagon plate is more than likely the problem. Perhaps that is why the plans call for a lower fit. Otherwise, beautiful build.
Hey Matt, great review. Have you had any issues with racking with the leg vise or other comments now it is nearly 18months on?
Very nice review Matt! Excellent work as always - you are a superb teacher - honestly. And yes, the wood shaving in your hair does add a touch of distinction.
Try a bit of loctite on the end of the screws that secure the handles on the wheels. That will stop them coming loose. Be sure to use a non setting type of loctite so that they can be removed in the future if necessary.
One work-around for the criss-cross mechanism pinch would be to make a sliding dowel or sliding square that's fixed into the outer jaw just above the mechanism and slides in and out of the leg. Wouldn't be visible at all from the outside but would stop the work going down that far?
nice informative video, thanks! But did i see your bench move when you pushed it down??
Matt, I'm down to options: the bench crafted w crisis cross or the Lake Erie tool works wooden screw. Any thoughts?
Hi Matt, I was hoping you could do a video on why you chose round dogholes vs square? I am planning on making a shorter bench like yours and want to install 19mm round dogholes. I am slightly concerned that if I use holdfasts in the holes that over time they might prevent the benchdogs from staying in place... any thoughts? much appreciated
Vibration is because you left out those two screws.....kidding :)
Level that bench!!!! less kidding
Well done! Like your vids Thumbs up
Nice work sir please keep it up
thanks, good review
You definitely put your head into your work. Matt, Very nice video!
It's nice to hear someone using the correct term of cramp in the correct way rather than clamp. Comments section, in your own time, go on.
Dude, like your vids but when are ya gonna make some furniture other that shop stuff?
Hey Matt! Do you edit your own videos? Congrats bro! You gotta be one of the most knowledgeable woodworkers out there.
Matt, great video. Very well narrated. I am almost finished with my Roubo. For me the biggest challenge was building the tops. Wielding those tops around for planing, drilling and routing was a chore building it alone. Couldn't agree more about the vises. The criss cross glides so smoothly and effortlessly. The machining is top notch on all the hardware. The double dovetails are a nice touch and your honesty on showing your mistakes given your exceptional talent should instill confidence in those who feel a bit overwhelmed in taking on a Roubo build. The two bits of advice I would like to share that you touched on are 1. Make sure all your power tools (if using) are tuned to a tight tolerance. 2. Mark out all drilling/routing operations very carefully. If an individual takes his/her time the reward at the end will be a pleasure every time the bench is used, Thanks again Matt. Beautiful bench.
What are the red Clamps, I have a friend who has some in black, but I can not find any labels on them of where to buy more of them.
Brilliant bench Matt. Beautiful and functional
mine is still sitting on my assembly table waiting to be installed once the workbench is done... maybe next year!
You can use nail polish to set the screws in the vice handle.
Did you have any thoughts on the HNT Gordon wagon vice? It looks to me like it's operation is identical to the Benchcrafted, but it's infinitely easier to install, and it doesn't pull against the bench so it doesn't need an end cap. Am I missing something?
Matt, Top notch video as always. Like someone stated earlier, blue loctight is you friend to keep your handles from unscrewing. A small drop on the threads and you will never think about them again. Im not positive, but my guess the vibration in your tail vise is something is just slightly out of alignment. Some graphite on the screw may help and won't be a dust magnet like standard grease. Anyway keep putting out the quality videos and ill keep watching. ;)
Matt, Which crisscross system di you install on the leg vice?
Yes, it is without doubt a beautiful work of art/craft however...... you need to add a teensy weensy wedge under one of the legs to stop it wobbling as the very first job of a massive beautiful bench is to reduce wobbling to zero!
Question 🙋♂️ what would you say is the ideal height for a workbench surface?
nice work
Bit late to the party but baked linseed oil finish would work really well on that handwheel
use loctite to keep your screws from lousing
Did the middle screw move at 13:27?
My boss at work (professional corporate environment) used to come to work with wood chips in his beard, apparently he used to do wood turning before coming in to work, or maybe from the night before, funny people wood workers, he was the only one who never noticed!
Have you considered making a course to go along with your bench plans? I would pay big dollars for something like that to help me bridge the gap between my skills.
Hey Matt...use some Loctite Blue or Loctite red if you want those screws on the leg vise wheel on there more permanently. That stuff is brilliant and I use it on some of my son's furniture hardware, as well as, my firearms. You can get it on Amazon
Yup. Loctite will sort those pesky handles out very easily. One or 2 drops and sorted.
Another vote for blue Loctite. Auto parts stores stock it.
the vibration might comes from the thread
what type of wood did you use to make your bench ?
Hi Matt-I Ve Come across an a anomaly with vice’s, are Veritas or Axminster design approachable?
Great video where can I find the material that you sticked to the jaws of the vises
Lee Valley! Depends where you are
It has been a while since you made this video but if those leg vice nobs are still coming loose try some blue loctite on the threads.
where do you get the expansion mechanism from
Hey Matt! I just got the hardware for the Benchcrafted Leg Vise and when reading through the instructions I see they say the chop should be at least 2.5" thick. I've realized that after planing the piece of wood I was going to use, it is only 2.25" thick. Do you think I'll run into major issues if I just use it anyways?
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The home grown Velcro has good initial stick but it looks like it pulls apart too easily. Perhaps more fiber in your diet?
Use locktight for the screws 🤘
Matt, I haven't read all the comments, however if you purchase thread lock your screws will no longer back out
For these vises that have the cast iron handles, you will need to oil these handles regularly to prevent rust. I would actually recommend seasoning them 2-3 times like you would cast iron cookware. Seasoning will give a more durable finish and you won't have to oil them as often either.
You should add a new hair ornament in future videos mate, its a good look.
I bet if you spray the track with silicone it will take the vibration our of your vise. A little bit of lube can make a huge difference in things that move.
I bought the crisscross, which is worth every penny, but i did not buy the rest, instead i bought local bench screws/vises, which were much more afordable, i live in norway aswell, so i would have to pay import taxes on benchcrafted vises, i did so on the crisscross, but it alone wasent too bad, and it was delivered from germany, the standard vises i bought here, they are similar to axminster trade vices, one being a quick release vice, so instead of the wagon vice, i had a clamping vice with dog holes in it, so i could clamp material just like the wagon vice, except it gave me more functionality and being a quick release vice, faster aswell. Very happy with the crisscross and the standard screw in my legvice :)
Matt, there is another option for the leg vise instead of the cross or peg board systems you can use a linear bearing. Makes a very tidy job and increases the size of wood you can clamp. I think Richard Maguire was using them when he was making benches before he moved his business in a different direction
Buenas noches, el video lo pueden transmitir en español, es muy interesante para nosotros los hispanos.
Awesome follow up video, Matt! Not to be too forward, but how tall are you and how tall did you make your bench?
I’m on a train at the moment and will forget to respond to this when I return to the workshop on Monday. So I’ll do my best now: I’m 6’1 and from memory, the bench is about 915mm tall.... I think.
@@MattEstlea Thank you, sir! Wanted to make sure I'd be able to adjust your bench plans to match my height. Heading to your site to grab a copy. Cheers!
Hey Matt,
You sold me on the Moxon vice. The thing was wondering about the vibration with thick material. Is there any reason you couldn’t clamp the wood to the deadman also?
Thanks for teaching this old dog some new tricks,
Love your channel!
Ever seen “there’s something about Mary”?
This video really helps. Thank you Matt. Now I am learning "how is made"! I watched your videos of Roubo bench a several times now and I can say that I can't wait to start working for my own bench. I do not have any bench for working, only a table or two! Any advice?? I know that for making a bench you need a bench! Is true? For the vices I will make a "homemade" series for the same benchcraft tools you used; just because I do not afford them now. Lucky me that my friend is a blacksmith! Thank you for this videos. How long is the screw? or can you send me some mesurments of the system please? Thank you. I appreciate what you do. Really inpiring! Hope that in a week my hand tools will arrive. I just orderd them so now wathing your videos is a delight!
Has Bertha picked up any 'battle scars' yet?
Lost your broom and had to sweep the floor with "your mop", eh'
Rude, and disrespectful.
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Matt, did you buy the solo or the retro benchcrafted leg vice package?
This was the retro, much easier!
Thank you!
Use some loctite on the handle screws
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quality lol. suits ya matt
I need to learn how to cramp instead of clamp.
Wow that leg vise hardware kit is $429. It sure doesn't look like it should cost that much. Maybe $80? I just priced parts on the net and someone clever could buy a 1x5 nut and 3' of 1x5 rod for $36 and DIY something with just that and a bit of scrap. I guess if you don't ask for the money you never get it? For what they're asking it'd better be a Wilton bullet vise if they expect it out of me though.
Nice bench. Maybye try to fix the handle wobble by applying a bit of a medium strength Loctite thread locker onto these screws. Plus you can insert some shims to get rid of the wobble alltogether. Adjusting the preload on the screw will then negate the wobble and after the threadlocker dries, it won´t loosen anymore . Just make sure not to use the strongest one, since if one day the need arise, you won´t be able to undo these screws, that stuff is tough.
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About the only negative is price.
Beautiful and well made, but damn expensive.
Holy shit $700 all in for the vises
Beautifully presented vid & info Matt, But...……………. this is horrendously expensive stuff here fella. C'mon. Get real. Nice hair ornaments b.t.w.
ive noticed you dont use power tools that much
I don't know if I'm just being dumb but what is a "cramp" 😂😂
King's English for "clamp"
You can remove this annoying sound from the handles by putting kitchen rubber band in the gap :)
He lives wood. He breaths wood. Even his hair is wood.
This is a pretty solid little workbench. While once you figure out how it comes together, it is physically Easy to assemble czcams.com/users/postUgkxyFZUPFEey-PuqsPMxqaykBhgA1LWxFHh by yourself. But the diagrams explaining the steps are really pretty bad. I could not get the handle pins in all the way despite multiple attempts, so I just used a screw I had on hand for the 2nd handle. I could not get the first pin in further or pull it back out. You are supposed to hammer it in, but I had no leverage and the handle is plastic and I did not want to risk breaking it. I will get a lot of use out of the bench because of the convenient size and height. It does fold up nicely for storage. They even explain how to fold it so you don't get pinched...that is important!
Pinch your old ladies nail polish and put a few drops on the thread before tightening.