In as much as I love you and your show man but I think Arteta deserves some flowers man, he has forced the Kronkes to start spending and clearly we can see that we are getting a better structure and direction of where we wanna be. I submit
Exactly the grass isn’t always greener if everyone wants rid of Arteta then who do you want to replace him with? I don’t wana hear zidane or allegri it’s not going to happen. If not mikel then who?
I don't think Arteta forced anything, they just realuze that to compete for top 4 you can't have Sonogo, Nicholas Bendtner, Chamack, Jervinho etc as striker. We have to buy good players. No other way. We can't be "also rans".
@@kaydee3691 What makes you think challenging is their ceiling though? They’ve been getting better each season and you can clearly see areas that need improving, Arteta I trust will address those areas so I don’t get what some are thinking.
Took the words out of my mouth. So long as the team is improving, I want him to stay. The timeline for winning is not the be all end all as long as you're progressing towards that goal.
I think arteta has done an amazing job at our club and i think he is the right man to take us forward. But one criticism i have got for him is the way we have thrown the cup competitions away in the past 4 seasons. Winning trophies breeds confidence. Even if we would've won a carabao cup or an fa cup this season it would've given us something to joy that we've won something. Winning cup competitions is more easier than league imo especially when the league has pep guardiola as manager. You have to say even though we were better in league than other 18 teams but at least liverpool won the carabao cup which adds to trophy cabinet. That's why what i want next season from mikel is to take cup competitions seriously and win it and go for all 4 competitions strongly. Winners never focus on winning only one prize they want to win everything out there. That should be the mentality we should have as a club
You damn right. In 87 George graham first trophy was the league cup. It snowballed into greatness. That trophy is a good start. It's good enough for pep. City have won it loads.
We have won the most number if Fa cups and the most in the last decade. If that was the case, we should have won major stuff by now. Our problem is the impatience of some fans and emotional thinking which creates a toxic culture.
Arteta would agree with what you're saying. He said he questioned himself last summer after the title run collapse. Even he knows trophies are EVERYTHING in this game. Not just progression. I bet he invites scrutiny because he knows what achieving high standards takes. And it's definitely not blind support.
All these guys saying "Who can beat Pep, be realistic". If that is your mentality then why do you tell people to believe that we will win the league next season? The same thing you people said last season. If we cant beat Pep then why do you people delude yourselves every season just to switch up at the end of the season and claim Pep is unbeatable.
Arteta is an interim manager , the next manager will bring success ... Alonso has proved that in his first season he never needed a process nor phases to win silverware and puts arteta to shame.
No it’s just that in the Prem with there being more than one main candidate it’s harder to take advantage. We can clearly see holes in the squad where we haven’t been good enough, it doesn’t make sense this manager talk. It was shown again against Everton, stop letting our attacking options off the hook. Martinelli, Nketiah, Nelson, Jesus, Smith Rowe, aren’t the level we need.
on blistering form before the 31 March showdown at the Etihad, Arsenal smashed 8 PL opponents in a row, outscoring them by 33-4 w/ avg 70% possession, Arteta parked the bus vs City - 27% possession..... in other words Arteta had No faith in his own team to finish City that day & that Arsenal team Never looked the same - then gooners cry weaker clubs could not do what Arsenal refused to even Try - stop w/ the Excuses......
If we're a big club then Carabao Cup and FA Cup should be seen as supplements for the main trophies. When Pep and Klopp won them they won the other trophies as well, the season when Klopp was challenging for the quadruple and ended the season with only an FA Cup and Carabao cup they still got bantered and the season was considered a failure. Same would've happened to us this season even if we won an FA Cup.
Arteta deserves one more season to bring in a trophy! Persistently playing Harvertz in the midfield (and not as a striker) is what ultimately cost us the title. Btw - Unpopular opinion: Man City or the EPL season should be suspended indefinitely until the 115 charges have been sorted.
Arteta cost us the title when he was tinkering at the start of the season with the team and tried to force his favourites into the team against Villa, he’s fully cost us.
@@thermal5831Why you making excuses for our attackers in the squad? That’s the reason we’re not on City’s level. We were still winning while tinkering which needed to happen as big parts of our team were new. Arteta doesn’t trust Nketaih, Nelson, Smith Rowe and Martinelli and Jesus haven’t been the level we’ve needed. We seen it again against Everton on the last day, you blaming that on tinkering still?
Almost did it FC. Next season FC. Win a trophy or shut up. This fanbase is so mid. There's no trophy for challenging. Embarrassing fanbase accepting mediocrity when they chased Wenger out for less. Spicy Spurs. Such a defeatist mindset "Oooh, we gotta wait for Daddy Pepe to leave!" Absolutely pathetic.
I've played every minute of every game this season, and I've won nothing. Bro, that statement stings you know. Can you imagine how many players have left Arsenal because they're tired of not winning
@@SanDeezyBreezy61986 whose to say we wouldn’t have won the game at Newcastle if the Newcastle goal wasn’t given? As the saying goes: goals change games.Regardless, it was a shocking decision.
Curtis, people forget Arteta studied under PEP, so copied his style etc, he also spent roughly the same money in first 4 yrs BUT compare what each won in that time, also we have FAILED the last 3 seasons & will go on unless we change mentally
Lol that’s laughable. Arsenal had a crap team and spent only £80m in Arteta’s first 18 months until 2021 when we spent £150m. You think just cause City had a period where they spent less, that means Arsenal should’ve been competing with them? They had investments from the past to quote Mourinho.
I think Edu should hold smoke as well,he's the one dictates transfers at the end of the day and he's been shocking,we chat get the wright people but but the guy actually doing the business is a muppet,he gets 4/10 this season only because of Rice,we've improved yes but we are still not competent in other aspects of the club.
Christmas period doomed us. Only time we lost back-to-back games. Win one of those two losses (were up 1-0 at Craven Cottage before going on to lose 2-1) and we win the league by one point. That simple. It's incredible and painful how close we came.
Love THE SHOW BIG C..BUT I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.. Gets the MOST POINTS IN ARSENAL HISTORY.. finishes 2nd behind a team with 115 charges...and COULD HAVE WON IT EVEN ON THE LAST DAY "IS ARTETA THE RIGHT MANAGER" ? For me YES WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM...cause the boys...atleast learnt from last season....AND SHOWED A POSITIVE CHANGE..AND COMPETED TILL THE LAST DAY...AND SO DID OUR MANAGER.... ARTETA HIMSELF SAID "DONT BE SATISFIED"...he could have said..oh we tried...let's celebrate this...NOPE HE SAID....PEP..DON'T WORRY..WE AIN'T LEAVING YOU ALONE...THAT'S WHAT I WANT FROM MY MANAGER
I hear what you're saying, Arteta is the reason we were close to winning the PL but also part of the reason we didn't lift the PL trophy this season. His experiments in the first half of the season when Gabriel was on the bench, Havertz in midfield & Partey at RB cost us imo. His starting XI against Villa was unforgivable and also part of the reason we didn't lift that PL title, as well as the players but he changed the winning XI. He must improve next season and actually win some silverware if he does not win the PL. Otherwise there needs to be serious conversations
We need the absolute best players in every position to get to 95 pts/season. We need to sign "créme de la créme" players to get to that number. Because we don't have a manager like Pep or Kloop how can win you titles with "no big names players".
I think Arteta should change his approach towards Cup Competitions. First he should go for Carabao Cup and FA Cup alongside the European Competition, and when he will be experienced enough, he should charge towards Man City. Ten Hag had the worst season this year and the only thing saving him this year is last season's Carabao Cup and FA Cup this year. When you win domestic cups, fans will get behind you despite the bad results in the League.
Big up Curtis and the Community for another brilliant stream 100k , if we are able to get 2 quality centre midfielders then fine move on Partey but to be honest I would keep him as 4th choice. Regarding the manager, I believe he should be moved on now. £650 million, 8th,8th,5th,2nd,2nd isn't good enough. He routinely shows his inexperience, we are allowing him a free trial at one of the biggest clubs in England, we have turned into what we used to laugh at Spurs for (we are the Red Spurs). Alright cool are we going in the right direction yes but it doesn't matter in the end if you don't win trophies, we haven't won a trophy in 4 seasons. I would go for Inzaghi or someone like that who can come and get us over the line. We will be having the same conversation next season about giving him another go when we haven't won a trophy again. Look at some of the names City are linked to and with Madrid getting Mbappe and potentially Davies the UCL and PL is looking tough. We need to win the FA and Carabao Cup because they are trophies regardless if they are the big ones or not. In my opinion he shouldn't be here next season but oh well what can you do when your opinion isn't popular 🤷♀.🔜
That just an excuse for players that aren’t good enough for me when that’s evident and the manager is doing his part. Some of these attackers aren’t the level and was shown again against Everton. With where our squad was you can’t expect such a big jump like you were after.
@@thermal5831 Did Arteta sign Nketiah, Nelson, Martinelli, Smith Rowe? They’ve been given new contracts to keep their value if we want to sell if they don’t show a good enough level, we’ve had to address worse off areas in the past, there’s a good chance some of them could be leaving this summer.
@@jgooner894 Keeping their value? You do realise these players are either out of form, not good enough or have been injured. How is he “keeping their value” with all the circumstances I listed lol he ain’t good enough that’s it.
@@nodi1217 Not all managers sign the right players. Arsenal have been getting players that have been making them better each season, Mikel and Edu are a big part of that.
@@wingchan4042 Emery didn’t look that involved with signings at that time as he wanted Zaha instead of Pepe. You think he came in amd said, I want an 18 yr old CB that costs quite a bit of money and not use him? That looked like a club signing. In the final season of Wenger I’m sure it was, the main driving forces in recruitment shifted away from the manager. Since Mikel’s position got promoted to manager instead of a head coach it seems him and Edu have a lot of control there.
For 2 seasons running we have been in Pole Position to win The Title, and have either BOTTLED IT, or slipped up at the most CRITICAL stage of the season (during The Run-In!). For me Havertz's reaction after the final whistle of our last match of the season summed up everything about our situation!! 😞😞😭😭😭😭😭 There is simply NO WAY THAT IT CAN EVER BE ACCEPTABLE THAT A CLUB OF THE HALLOWED STATURE OF ARSENAL CAN GO 4 SEASONS IN A ROW WITHOUT EVEN WINNING A TROPHY!!! 😳😳😳 For me all the Media & Football World GUFF about us "making continual progress", and how "we as Gooners should all be PROUD of what our Team has achieved over the last 2 seasons especially - under our brilliant young Manager Arteta"....I can name one other Manager - who is the same age as Arteta >> even has very far less experience of leading a Top Flight Team, and has now led a Team to one of Europe's Top 5 League Titles in his 1st full season of management at that level....this Manager is of course: Xabi Alonso! Alonso took charge a Bayer Leverkusen Team fighting against relegation in the Autumn of 2022 to the very Summit of The Bundesliga, and in so doing spectacularly ended Bayern Munich's 11 season domination of that division!! Not only that but Alonso's New Leverkusen have not lost a single match in ANY competition which they've played this season, and have already won The Bundesliga by a massive margin!! If Alonso (who is from the exact same Basque Region of Spain as Arteta!!) can win a Top Flight Title with a far less prestigious Club, with nothing even remotely comparable to the resources of a Gargantuan Sporting Institution like THE ARSENAL, THEN WHAT IS ARTETA'S EXCUSE FOR ONLY WINNING 1 FA CUP IN 4 & A HALF YEARS IN CHARGE EH??? 😙😙😙 For sure HUGE QUESTION MARKS need to be asked about the quality of our Team >> Squad overall....but let's not forget people WHO picked these players to play for Arsenal > who trains/coaches >> manages them; who selects our Team for every game > determines our tactical formation > approach, etc.... Remember when Arteta played Partey as a Right Back, and dropped Gabriel for the first few games of the season!...Think how much this crazy decision may have contributed to Partey missing the vast majority of the season coz of injury! WHY OVERLOAD A PLAYER WHO WAS ALREADY INJURY PRONE?? 😙😙 Think also about Arteta's decision to play Havertz in Central Midfield instead of J20 - who is a specialist there by trade for the first half of the season.....HOW MANY POINTS DID THIS COST US??? 😙😙😙 Then of course there is the matter of Arteta's failure to make pro-active substitutions, or indeed make the RIGHT ones for specific match situations!! WHY was ESR - who had been one of our best players 2 seasons earlier almost frozen out completely??? WHY was Eddie given priority for the first half of the season as our main striker - when Jesus was injured - over Havertz: who was/is more proven at the Top Level in this area??? 😙 I DO NOT WANNA HEAR ANY MORE LAME EXCUSES AS TO WHY WE HAVEN'T WON THE TITLE, OR TROPHIES!!!....EXCUSES ARE ONLY FOR LOSERS!!! EITHER ARTETA DELIVERS US THE TITLE NEXT SEASON, OR WE SACK HIM, AND BRING IN A NEW MANAGER WHO CAN!!!
Curtis. if predicting when we would win things is possible, then changing manager would be easy. What we lack is patience. We might win or we might not. We all need to know winning is not a right. I believe we are on the right path and patience is the only way. Remember we all want to win but that is it. Sometimes we just need to accept the reality and move forward with hope.
No it doesn’t, it’s just that Curtis has always been questioning and is stubborn. It doesn’t make sense for me to think he’s not good enough with the squad turn around and getting this level of points in the league. We can clearly see as well that we can improve the squad so that’s further evidence he’s the right man.
Hey Curtis fair play to you if that’s the case then I’ve gotten it wrong and I apologise for that I always respected you and I believe you’re a man of his word . Thanks for clarifying it for me.cheers
It’s down to one goal as the difference. Fulham 10men equalizer - that’s how fine the margins. One goal COYG we’re close!!! Next league double champions and FA cup BIG UPS CURTIS Big Love Super Kevin Campbell!!!💪❤️
People should STOP talking about City and Pep are TOO good, stupidity. They were not as good this season as they were last season. As Curtis just said, they are out of the UCL. Arteta just doesn't have the minerals to win competition, he's blinded by favoritism. Look at Pep, Grealush spends a lot of time on the bench despite his $105M price tag. That what it takes. Hard-core decisions. Be proactive with his substitutions and have the killer instincts.
@majobho2034 he's got most and spend 700 million. Won nothing with his own players . He needs to go over the line or its time to move. 1 Cup out of 17 thats poor
Big up Big C, Lil C and the C Unit Community. Firstly, I hope Kevin Campbell has a speedy recovery and hope he gets back to full health. Secondly, I'm disappointed and gutted on one hand and from the other hand I'm happy with the progress we've made. It wasn't a successful season as we didn't win anything but when you take into consideration how we ended last season to how we've ended this season, then the best defence and attack etc, we've definitely progressed. If i have to be critical, I'd say it comes down to the dropped points around Christmas as well as the dropped points vs Villa and Fulham. Football has evolved so much over the years and as easy it is to compare the old Arsenal to the new Arsenal, I think you need to appreciate times have changed. It's very slim margins vs a quality City side with the best manager in the world. It's frustrating but we need to take it on the chin (No Diddy) and look forward to the summer, who we bring in then next season we go again. I've had my frustrating with Arteta at times but I do feel like he is the best man for the job. It's his team, I don't know who we can get to replace him and there is always the risk of if we did replace him the new manager will want to change things again and bring in their own players. Basically what I'm trying to say Big C is, it's not time for the 'Meet the Artetas' diss track! 😂
Our bench was a little bit better than previous years but you cannot win trophies with players like Nketia, Cedric, Elneny, Reiss Nelson and Timber out whole season ! The bench will definitely be better and definitely help us to win more next season.
The only thing I would say is that winning a trophy and the club being in a great state are not mutually exclusive. For example, if Man United win the FA Cup, there’s an argument that they’ve had a better season than Arsenal because they won silverware. However be honest, would you rather have an entire season of frustration and pain watching your club playing poorly but then have one day of being happy because you won an FA cup, or would you rather have an entire season watching exciting and excellent football, pushing the title race all the way to the final day? Football is more than just the trophy you may or may not win at the end of a season, it affects your mood and attitude week in week out.
We underperformed in the cups fair enough. We lost/drew some games in the epl we shouldn’t have against mediocre teams. But…we finished two points off arguably the (one of the) best teams/mgr in the world. With less payroll by far - city’s total player costs is 1.5x ours. I know people love the banter and some get off on the negative energy, and our little game of “pretend football manager” from the cheap-seats but if any of us REALLY had to make the decision, it is just hilarious to pretend anything other than you keep arteta. Give me a name - someone available and whose hiring won’t upset the balance of the club - you’d hire. Maybe it’s time to go enjoy the summer and stop the bs
Finishing second with no trophies is not a good season considering the money that has been spent. Liverpool at least won a trophy this year and they would consider this season as a flop.
1-0-0% on the parade with the trophy! It is absolutely right + correct to ask questions - but for me its "How do we get better & get over the line to the EPL title, FA/Carabao cups & champions league domination?" Not "why are we not winning trophies?" They are almost the same question but 1 has a positive bias, the other has a negative 'lack' focus in its frame of reference. We have NO divine right to win trophies. We do have a right to expect & demand improvement! This is top tier competitive sport. Not croquet!
I would rather GENUINELY challenge for the title and UCL every year and come 2nd, then hardly/never challenge but with tinpot trophies like the carabao, europa league, or even the FA cup.
Can u imagine Arsenal with a top notch striker and a quality 2nd striker, we need those guys to win games when we are off a little bit, Citys title is not LEGITIMATE, i disagree with u on that, UEFA found them guilty on many of the same charges
Arsenal can only compete as long as Arteta does not have too many games to deal with each season. He is clever enough to not take domestic competitions seriously knowing the squad does not have the potential to perform on the same level as Man City and other top flight teams. Arteta also places a lot of faith in players who will make many mistakes along the way to becoming an above average player. Arteta is unable to bring in players beyond a level of Premier League quality, which is why the team was unable to perform against Porto and Bayern Munich by showing anything exceptional. Very soon the team will have to make new contracts, which might mean losing key players while many others that are average are also on premium rate wages that they are unlikely to get at other clubs.
The reason is kronekes and ownership of the club 20 years of uzmanov the guy thats at everyon and kronekes aka josh and silent stan. Unai the lake of conflict resolution and the language barrier made it hard for unai it wasnt a problem. the issue was wenger having too much power and kronekes ignoring the club because every year wenger made money for the la rams stadium look at the facts doesnt take a rocket sciences to understand that kronekes and wenger were issue with a salary cap they wenger creates every season just to please the kronekes. Okay the stadium emirates had tonpay off but chelseas spending big money, united spending big money, liverpool, everton, spurs even man city which still hasnt been judged for the 115 chargers avoiding finial fair play from a decade. I doslike arteta as a player but his doing an extrmeely brilliant job at arsenal and the experience he brought from pep and city is enough to fight I applaud him but when will kroeneke put that money on the table and arsenal need need to scout players and pay the money of players cost an arm and a leg do it
To me arteta is building a dynasty fan TV channels like Curtis all in general judge from a chair let's be honest some teams were not playing strong football we lost by 2points show me why he shouldn't be there and build more we gonna take it next yr
Our team hasn’t been good enough, that’s why we haven’t won trophies. We can have parts of our team that are good enough though and that includes Arteta, he’s doing a lot of things right while parts of our team are consistently not showing the level, the manager is year on year addressing problem areas and we will win something down the line. The quality of City has been that good that’s it’s been tough for others to have any success but Arsenal are really close now, this summer is the one where we need to get that quality where Arteta trusts a lot of his bench. Can’t have players like Nketiah, Nelson, Vieira, Smith Rowe, Elneny, Cedric who he’s hesitant to use. Some of them he gave new contracts but I see them as stop gaps when we had more important areas to address. We can upgrade on them now.
I havent watched the video, i'll get that out the way. But never in my life did I think we'd have a manager end on 89 goddamn points, improving upon last season, and fans would then ask "Is he the right manager". Who are you getting instead that is going to perform better? Pep? Ancelotti? Perhaps you'd like to flip flop back to Emery now since he's got a better proven record in cup competitions. I can guarantee if Arteta had won a couple more domestic cups and finished third the narrative would be "we want more than those smaller cups, we want to challenge for the league". It's moronic to complain whilst we are still improving and getting so close. The entitlement absolutely stinks.
Curtis .... Pep has normalized wining the league with 90 or more points. Thats crazy. Fergie used to say you are in with a shout of wining the league if you loose 6 or less games. I agree that we have to push on, context is also required. And I'm not an Arteta guy by the way
Agree totally with you regarding trophies, otherwise we will be like Nandos FC which have had amazing teams and the best stricker for so many seasons but nothing to show for !!!! Kane or Son got nothing to show for all these good years !
Why do Arteta out people act as if there's many managers that can beat Pep to the title? Every league he's been to he's dominated. Whether we like it or not he's the best there is and he's in a club that can back him financially. This is Arteta's first managerial job and he's already going toe to toe with the best manager in football history. How many more signs do we need to see that Arteta definitely has the tools to become the world class manager Arsenal has been waiting for? He will either become world class at Arsenal or elsewhere and I'd rather it be at Arsenal. It's also a pointless discussion since we all know that he'll be here next season. What we need to be talking about is how the squad can be improved.
@@BroughieFacts are though you’re more likely not to win in football across all sports with there being only 4 trophies a season. We need to stop talking like there’s some to win each month. When you’ve not been one of the best teams it’s very likely you’re not gonna be winning something, especially when we’ve had City and Liverpool being elite teams in this country.
Ok watched the whole show, as a utd fan let me get this off my chest: Because utd has been overall so shite for the last decade, I get more joy these days outta aftv hate-alongs than my own team's meaningless games for 7th place (sad but it's the truth). Point is: I am as in tune with Arsenal's progress as my own team. And if you told me a few years ago when you were down in 8th, that in 3-4 years, you will go toe-to-toe with citeh 2 years in a row until the last day, winning like 9 out of your last 10 games (TOUGH fixtures) finishing on 89 points , whilst scoring the most goals and conceding the least - if I was an Arsenal fan I would've bitten your hand off for it (what I described is an absoLUTE miracle - just imagine if man utd in 2027 is on 89 pts, scored 90 goals, conceded 25
Almost did it FC. Next season FC. Win a trophy or shut up. This fanbase is so mid. There's no trophy for challenging. Embarrassing fanbase accepting mediocrity when they chased Wenger out for less. Spicy Spurs. Such a defeatist mindset "Oooh, we gotta wait for Daddy Pepe to leave!" Absolutely pathetic.
I’m still yet to hear the manager that’s supposed to come in and replace Arteta if we sacked him.. I can only see Zidane, Ancelotti, Pep and Klopp doing a better job and none of them are available?
Guys you dont know what you have until its gone!!!. If Mikel leaves today, this club will go backwards 5 years. Lets learn to appreciate what Mikel has done. Im not scared anymore of fixtures like liverpool away, city away,
If Mikel stays next season has to be his last chance to win a major honor. I dont know why fans are going crazt for a guy with no trophies. I couldmt understand back Arsene back in the days but Mikel is no where close to him. Arteta has One Last Season give him a warchest and prove us wrong.
In the past, the gap between us and City was so big. But we've improved so much that now, we could close that gap with one very good transfer window. When was the last time we could say that?? I like this trajectory. 📈⬆️
In the past we were ambitious and won trophies.... City were not our concern.... Then Wenger sold out our club and you lot showed up due to our success and players... but enable failure.... make it make sense.. longest trophy drought in our history... add that to about another 50 sackable offences over the last 5 years... now City has that ambition with owners who love winning f the rest and we have owners who love PR and money because fans like you are dumb and allow it... So to me your comment makes no sense.... very simple... be ambitious.. force the owners to be ambitious...hire the best no matter what it takes or the closest to... and you win trophies... That's what they did while the rest of the league stopped giving a f... Excuses excuses excuses, bunch of sissies
Make no sense whatsoever... you're coping.. How was Tottenhams trajectory after getting to champions league final?? You lot keep all the fantasies in your head to justify this manager but reality will keep slapping you in the face.. total losers.. Not how football works.... longest trophy drought in our history is not "progress" ... add that to about another 50 sackable offences over the last 5 years Artetasexuals just love round abouts... round and round we go.... Hopefully when he leaves, all leave with him and we get a proper club back... Get these owners out and bring in someone who actually loves football, Arsenal, with ambition, and we start winning trophies consistently... It's why city overtook the whole league, they are the only ones with real ambition in the league and a winning mentality.. We get that back and city won't be our concern once again... premier league is the PR league... nothing like it was... teams weren't even good this year.. worst defence by far out of the big leagues.. even city were below par Arteta won't get this chance again unless they practically hand it to him.... Easiest time in PL history to get points.. So much dross and big clubs rebuilding... Zero excuses left for leggo man.... he will only continue to find new ways to bottle it.. master innovator this guy... true architect in failing to win.... anything at all...
Never seen a more protected manager 🤷🏽♂️
The City draw gave us the 1 point that put things in our hands. The loss at Villa wiped out that 1 point and hence the 2 point difference.
In as much as I love you and your show man but I think Arteta deserves some flowers man, he has forced the Kronkes to start spending and clearly we can see that we are getting a better structure and direction of where we wanna be. I submit
When do we win a major honor???
Exactly the grass isn’t always greener if everyone wants rid of Arteta then who do you want to replace him with? I don’t wana hear zidane or allegri it’s not going to happen. If not mikel then who?
@@londonsillynanny3629I honestly don’t know because it’s not my job. But if you lot are okay with simply challenging, then it’s calm
I don't think Arteta forced anything, they just realuze that to compete for top 4 you can't have Sonogo, Nicholas Bendtner, Chamack, Jervinho etc as striker. We have to buy good players. No other way. We can't be "also rans".
@@kaydee3691 What makes you think challenging is their ceiling though? They’ve been getting better each season and you can clearly see areas that need improving, Arteta I trust will address those areas so I don’t get what some are thinking.
Arteta is doing a good job. We are improving each season. So we should continue to support him, the players, and the club in general.
No trophies, loser mentality.
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Took the words out of my mouth. So long as the team is improving, I want him to stay. The timeline for winning is not the be all end all as long as you're progressing towards that goal.
NO HE'S NOT ,1 TROPHY IN 5 YEARS, UNACCEPTABLE
4 trophyless season… average manager 😤
I think arteta has done an amazing job at our club and i think he is the right man to take us forward. But one criticism i have got for him is the way we have thrown the cup competitions away in the past 4 seasons. Winning trophies breeds confidence. Even if we would've won a carabao cup or an fa cup this season it would've given us something to joy that we've won something. Winning cup competitions is more easier than league imo especially when the league has pep guardiola as manager. You have to say even though we were better in league than other 18 teams but at least liverpool won the carabao cup which adds to trophy cabinet. That's why what i want next season from mikel is to take cup competitions seriously and win it and go for all 4 competitions strongly. Winners never focus on winning only one prize they want to win everything out there. That should be the mentality we should have as a club
Overall we can do better in the cups but in the FA Cup they did take it seriously, they just didn’t finish their dinner against Liverpool.
You damn right. In 87 George graham first trophy was the league cup. It snowballed into greatness.
That trophy is a good start. It's good enough for pep. City have won it loads.
We have won the most number if Fa cups and the most in the last decade. If that was the case, we should have won major stuff by now. Our problem is the impatience of some fans and emotional thinking which creates a toxic culture.
Only one problem? Really?
@@eddietee6305 The cup runs for me is the one main criticism for Arteta though you have to have good squad usually to do well in them.
Arteta would agree with what you're saying. He said he questioned himself last summer after the title run collapse. Even he knows trophies are EVERYTHING in this game. Not just progression. I bet he invites scrutiny because he knows what achieving high standards takes. And it's definitely not blind support.
I wish Arteta or anybody from the club watches this program. You spoke All facts through out the show brother
Keep Partey, you know we won't replace him with a same level player.
All these guys saying "Who can beat Pep, be realistic".
If that is your mentality then why do you tell people to believe that we will win the league next season? The same thing you people said last season. If we cant beat Pep then why do you people delude yourselves every season just to switch up at the end of the season and claim Pep is unbeatable.
Arteta is an interim manager , the next manager will bring success ... Alonso has proved that in his first season he never needed a process nor phases to win silverware and puts arteta to shame.
A bloody long interim
Using Alonso with one season every single person knows he won't replicate at Leverkusen ever again is intellectually dishonest.
No it’s just that in the Prem with there being more than one main candidate it’s harder to take advantage. We can clearly see holes in the squad where we haven’t been good enough, it doesn’t make sense this manager talk. It was shown again against Everton, stop letting our attacking options off the hook. Martinelli, Nketiah, Nelson, Jesus, Smith Rowe, aren’t the level we need.
@@jgooner894, We have to many mediocre players at this football club, some of them are decent but not consistent enough
If we lose Partey we need two CM's and only let him go for a good chunk of change.
We are not even in any finals let alone winning them
Pep went on 18 match winning streak! Who can compete with that! Sometimes we need to be logical and pragmatic, not unreasonable and unrealistic!!
If u won all your games you would be champions..stop the excuse😂😂😂😂
@@harrisonopare4851 Yeah lets just win 36 games next season. no draws. no losses.
on blistering form before the 31 March showdown at the Etihad, Arsenal smashed 8 PL opponents in a row, outscoring them by 33-4 w/ avg 70% possession, Arteta parked the bus vs City - 27% possession..... in other words Arteta had No faith in his own team to finish City that day & that Arsenal team Never looked the same - then gooners cry weaker clubs could not do what Arsenal refused to even Try - stop w/ the Excuses......
@@harrisonopare4851You can say that about any team, stop chatting rubbish and think before you speak.
Fabio is there for vibes
If we're a big club then Carabao Cup and FA Cup should be seen as supplements for the main trophies. When Pep and Klopp won them they won the other trophies as well, the season when Klopp was challenging for the quadruple and ended the season with only an FA Cup and Carabao cup they still got bantered and the season was considered a failure. Same would've happened to us this season even if we won an FA Cup.
The FA CUP is a major trophy!
@@sixpac20032010 nah, people want the league and CL. A big club will not be satisfied with only winning the FA Cup.
Arteta deserves one more season to bring in a trophy! Persistently playing Harvertz in the midfield (and not as a striker) is what ultimately cost us the title. Btw - Unpopular opinion: Man City or the EPL season should be suspended indefinitely until the 115 charges have been sorted.
Arteta stupidly played him there. And I agree , this 115 thing is going on way too long
Arteta cost us the title when he was tinkering at the start of the season with the team and tried to force his favourites into the team against Villa, he’s fully cost us.
No it’s our overall collection of attackers, not just one player. City aren’t just one player in attack from things falling apart, let’s be real here.
@@thermal5831Why you making excuses for our attackers in the squad? That’s the reason we’re not on City’s level. We were still winning while tinkering which needed to happen as big parts of our team were new. Arteta doesn’t trust Nketaih, Nelson, Smith Rowe and Martinelli and Jesus haven’t been the level we’ve needed. We seen it again against Everton on the last day, you blaming that on tinkering still?
Almost did it FC. Next season FC. Win a trophy or shut up. This fanbase is so mid. There's no trophy for challenging. Embarrassing fanbase accepting mediocrity when they chased Wenger out for less. Spicy Spurs. Such a defeatist mindset "Oooh, we gotta wait for Daddy Pepe to leave!" Absolutely pathetic.
I've played every minute of every game this season, and I've won nothing. Bro, that statement stings you know. Can you imagine how many players have left Arsenal because they're tired of not winning
Don’t forget the VAR disaster we received at Newcastle. Could’ve made the difference in the end
Disgraceful decision(s) to allow Newcastles goal.
That would've only been 1 point. We still would've finished 1 point below City.
@@SanDeezyBreezy61986 whose to say we wouldn’t have won the game at Newcastle if the Newcastle goal wasn’t given? As the saying goes: goals change games.Regardless, it was a shocking decision.
Villa away Havertz goal got disallowed as well... crazy
Curtis, people forget Arteta studied under PEP, so copied his style etc, he also spent roughly the same money in first 4 yrs BUT compare what each won in that time, also we have FAILED the last 3 seasons & will go on unless we change mentally
Lol that’s laughable. Arsenal had a crap team and spent only £80m in Arteta’s first 18 months until 2021 when we spent £150m. You think just cause City had a period where they spent less, that means Arsenal should’ve been competing with them? They had investments from the past to quote Mourinho.
Big C, thank you for the brilliant content throughout the season. Thoroughly enjoyed the journey with you❤
He was a fool for that Villa match a damn fool
Spot on Big C ! The team must learn to win. This will build the players character in pressure times
I think Edu should hold smoke as well,he's the one dictates transfers at the end of the day and he's been shocking,we chat get the wright people but but the guy actually doing the business is a muppet,he gets 4/10 this season only because of Rice,we've improved yes but we are still not competent in other aspects of the club.
if we can get anything above 40 mil for the general. then it is worth considering especially if that means we can bring in bruno and/or dejong
Home record is the main reason we didnt get any sweet success. If we dont win trophies next year, we will be bantered forever.
Christmas period doomed us. Only time we lost back-to-back games. Win one of those two losses (were up 1-0 at Craven Cottage before going on to lose 2-1) and we win the league by one point. That simple. It's incredible and painful how close we came.
It’s the tipping point for Mikel Arteta. 😂
😂😂😂
Love THE SHOW BIG C..BUT I
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE..
Gets the MOST POINTS IN ARSENAL HISTORY..
finishes 2nd behind a team with 115 charges...and COULD HAVE WON IT EVEN ON THE LAST DAY
"IS ARTETA THE RIGHT MANAGER" ?
For me YES
WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM...cause the boys...atleast learnt from last season....AND SHOWED A POSITIVE CHANGE..AND COMPETED TILL THE LAST DAY...AND SO DID OUR MANAGER....
ARTETA HIMSELF SAID "DONT BE SATISFIED"...he could have said..oh we tried...let's celebrate this...NOPE
HE SAID....PEP..DON'T WORRY..WE AIN'T LEAVING YOU ALONE...THAT'S WHAT I WANT FROM MY MANAGER
Agreed. Toxic Curtis talking S&@T again what’s new. 🙄
@@criptonewbee3918and here you are seemingly obsessed with him, he lives in your head rent free 😂
I hear what you're saying, Arteta is the reason we were close to winning the PL but also part of the reason we didn't lift the PL trophy this season. His experiments in the first half of the season when Gabriel was on the bench, Havertz in midfield & Partey at RB cost us imo. His starting XI against Villa was unforgivable and also part of the reason we didn't lift that PL title, as well as the players but he changed the winning XI. He must improve next season and actually win some silverware if he does not win the PL. Otherwise there needs to be serious conversations
Excuses FC
I cant lie i care about major honours. City are simply better with a goat manager. Need to keep signing until we are as good as them
We need the absolute best players in every position to get to 95 pts/season. We need to sign "créme de la créme" players to get to that number. Because we don't have a manager like Pep or Kloop how can win you titles with "no big names players".
I think Arteta should change his approach towards Cup Competitions.
First he should go for Carabao Cup and FA Cup alongside the European Competition, and when he will be experienced enough, he should charge towards Man City.
Ten Hag had the worst season this year and the only thing saving him this year is last season's Carabao Cup and FA Cup this year.
When you win domestic cups, fans will get behind you despite the bad results in the League.
Big up Curtis and the Community for another brilliant stream 100k , if we are able to get 2 quality centre midfielders then fine move on Partey but to be honest I would keep him as 4th choice. Regarding the manager, I believe he should be moved on now. £650 million, 8th,8th,5th,2nd,2nd isn't good enough. He routinely shows his inexperience, we are allowing him a free trial at one of the biggest clubs in England, we have turned into what we used to laugh at Spurs for (we are the Red Spurs). Alright cool are we going in the right direction yes but it doesn't matter in the end if you don't win trophies, we haven't won a trophy in 4 seasons. I would go for Inzaghi or someone like that who can come and get us over the line. We will be having the same conversation next season about giving him another go when we haven't won a trophy again. Look at some of the names City are linked to and with Madrid getting Mbappe and potentially Davies the UCL and PL is looking tough. We need to win the FA and Carabao Cup because they are trophies regardless if they are the big ones or not. In my opinion he shouldn't be here next season but oh well what can you do when your opinion isn't popular 🤷♀.🔜
That just an excuse for players that aren’t good enough for me when that’s evident and the manager is doing his part. Some of these attackers aren’t the level and was shown again against Everton. With where our squad was you can’t expect such a big jump like you were after.
@@jgooner894 Ok but who signed these players?
@@thermal5831 Did Arteta sign Nketiah, Nelson, Martinelli, Smith Rowe? They’ve been given new contracts to keep their value if we want to sell if they don’t show a good enough level, we’ve had to address worse off areas in the past, there’s a good chance some of them could be leaving this summer.
@@jgooner894 Keeping their value? You do realise these players are either out of form, not good enough or have been injured. How is he “keeping their value” with all the circumstances I listed lol he ain’t good enough that’s it.
I think Arsenal need a much better bench next season get rid of certain players in the summer and add quality to this team
The clubs longest time without a league title since our first title of 13, it’s now 21 years.
It has gotten out of hand. We are gonna be up there with Liverpools 30years
Arteta isn’t to blame for the years of systematic failure before him
@@thatguy6780 and yet, what has he won but an fa cup in his 1st season? We've not even reached a final, sorry but that's poor
Definitely hurts more this season
I am just today (Monday) getting over this season's head blow, roller coaster ride till we lost by 2 points so avoidable
I give Arteta one more season this transfer window is very important
That's the only way Arteta can win, with all top players
But I think my grandma could do the same
Another Havertz...Chelsea rejects are all we see. Myopic.
@@nodi1217 Not all managers sign the right players. Arsenal have been getting players that have been making them better each season, Mikel and Edu are a big part of that.
@@jgooner894Silba the world class centre back is intact signed by Emery.Without him Arsenal will ne nowhere near top 4
@@wingchan4042 Emery didn’t look that involved with signings at that time as he wanted Zaha instead of Pepe. You think he came in amd said, I want an 18 yr old CB that costs quite a bit of money and not use him? That looked like a club signing. In the final season of Wenger I’m sure it was, the main driving forces in recruitment shifted away from the manager. Since Mikel’s position got promoted to manager instead of a head coach it seems him and Edu have a lot of control there.
provided we are utilizing Timber as LB, if not we also need a new LB. that makes it 5 new players
Im sorry, im tired of having RB playing at LB, that left side looks dead, Bring us a proper left back.
If Edu can sell players we can actually go all out
For 2 seasons running we have been in Pole Position to win The Title, and have either BOTTLED IT, or slipped up at the most CRITICAL stage of the season (during The Run-In!). For me Havertz's reaction after the final whistle of our last match of the season summed up everything about our situation!! 😞😞😭😭😭😭😭 There is simply NO WAY THAT IT CAN EVER BE ACCEPTABLE THAT A CLUB OF THE HALLOWED STATURE OF ARSENAL CAN GO 4 SEASONS IN A ROW WITHOUT EVEN WINNING A TROPHY!!! 😳😳😳 For me all the Media & Football World GUFF about us "making continual progress", and how "we as Gooners should all be PROUD of what our Team has achieved over the last 2 seasons especially - under our brilliant young Manager Arteta"....I can name one other Manager - who is the same age as Arteta >> even has very far less experience of leading a Top Flight Team, and has now led a Team to one of Europe's Top 5 League Titles in his 1st full season of management at that level....this Manager is of course: Xabi Alonso!
Alonso took charge a Bayer Leverkusen Team fighting against relegation in the Autumn of 2022 to the very Summit of The Bundesliga, and in so doing spectacularly ended Bayern Munich's 11 season domination of that division!! Not only that but Alonso's New Leverkusen have not lost a single match in ANY competition which they've played this season, and have already won The Bundesliga by a massive margin!!
If Alonso (who is from the exact same Basque Region of Spain as Arteta!!) can win a Top Flight Title with a far less prestigious Club, with nothing even remotely comparable to the resources of a Gargantuan Sporting Institution like THE ARSENAL, THEN WHAT IS ARTETA'S EXCUSE FOR ONLY WINNING 1 FA CUP IN 4 & A HALF YEARS IN CHARGE EH??? 😙😙😙
For sure HUGE QUESTION MARKS need to be asked about the quality of our Team >> Squad overall....but let's not forget people WHO picked these players to play for Arsenal > who trains/coaches >> manages them; who selects our Team for every game > determines our tactical formation > approach, etc....
Remember when Arteta played Partey as a Right Back, and dropped Gabriel for the first few games of the season!...Think how much this crazy decision may have contributed to Partey missing the vast majority of the season coz of injury! WHY OVERLOAD A PLAYER WHO WAS ALREADY INJURY PRONE?? 😙😙
Think also about Arteta's decision to play Havertz in Central Midfield instead of J20 - who is a specialist there by trade for the first half of the season.....HOW MANY POINTS DID THIS COST US??? 😙😙😙
Then of course there is the matter of Arteta's failure to make pro-active substitutions, or indeed make the RIGHT ones for specific match situations!!
WHY was ESR - who had been one of our best players 2 seasons earlier almost frozen out completely???
WHY was Eddie given priority for the first half of the season as our main striker - when Jesus was injured - over Havertz: who was/is more proven at the Top Level in this area??? 😙
I DO NOT WANNA HEAR ANY MORE LAME EXCUSES AS TO WHY WE HAVEN'T WON THE TITLE, OR TROPHIES!!!....EXCUSES ARE ONLY FOR LOSERS!!!
EITHER ARTETA DELIVERS US THE TITLE NEXT SEASON, OR WE SACK HIM, AND BRING IN A NEW MANAGER WHO CAN!!!
Curtis. if predicting when we would win things is possible, then changing manager would be easy. What we lack is patience. We might win or we might not. We all need to know winning is not a right. I believe we are on the right path and patience is the only way. Remember we all want to win but that is it. Sometimes we just need to accept the reality and move forward with hope.
Agreed. Toxic Curtis talking S&@T again what’s new. 🙄
Raise your standards guys, stop with this loser mentality 🙄
The fact that we are questioning him it shows that's not the right one!
No manager is perfect. But I doubt arteta.
No it doesn’t, it’s just that Curtis has always been questioning and is stubborn. It doesn’t make sense for me to think he’s not good enough with the squad turn around and getting this level of points in the league. We can clearly see as well that we can improve the squad so that’s further evidence he’s the right man.
Big up, player
Hey Curtis fair play to you if that’s the case then I’ve gotten it wrong and I apologise for that I always respected you and I believe you’re a man of his word . Thanks for clarifying it for me.cheers
No problem 👊🏾
Josh Kroenke had some,big words to say! Let's see if he actually backs it! I want big name players like De Jong holding up a shirt
It’s down to one goal as the difference. Fulham 10men equalizer - that’s how fine the margins.
One goal COYG we’re close!!! Next league double champions and FA cup
BIG UPS CURTIS
Big Love Super Kevin Campbell!!!💪❤️
Arteta is the right man for us.
No, he isn’t.
Agree Curtis
Arteta is manager like any other - what success in 5 years? ?🧐😳
People should STOP talking about City and Pep are TOO good, stupidity. They were not as good this season as they were last season. As Curtis just said, they are out of the UCL. Arteta just doesn't have the minerals to win competition, he's blinded by favoritism. Look at Pep, Grealush spends a lot of time on the bench despite his $105M price tag. That what it takes. Hard-core decisions. Be proactive with his substitutions and have the killer instincts.
One more season and if still no trophies then sack him its not good enough after getting everything hes wanted . There needs to be a line !
He hasn't got everything he wants.
@majobho2034 he's got most and spend 700 million. Won nothing with his own players . He needs to go over the line or its time to move. 1 Cup out of 17 thats poor
Big up Big C, Lil C and the C Unit Community.
Firstly, I hope Kevin Campbell has a speedy recovery and hope he gets back to full health.
Secondly, I'm disappointed and gutted on one hand and from the other hand I'm happy with the progress we've made. It wasn't a successful season as we didn't win anything but when you take into consideration how we ended last season to how we've ended this season, then the best defence and attack etc, we've definitely progressed.
If i have to be critical, I'd say it comes down to the dropped points around Christmas as well as the dropped points vs Villa and Fulham. Football has evolved so much over the years and as easy it is to compare the old Arsenal to the new Arsenal, I think you need to appreciate times have changed. It's very slim margins vs a quality City side with the best manager in the world. It's frustrating but we need to take it on the chin (No Diddy) and look forward to the summer, who we bring in then next season we go again.
I've had my frustrating with Arteta at times but I do feel like he is the best man for the job. It's his team, I don't know who we can get to replace him and there is always the risk of if we did replace him the new manager will want to change things again and bring in their own players.
Basically what I'm trying to say Big C is, it's not time for the 'Meet the Artetas' diss track! 😂
😂😂😂😍
Curtis, who would you sign today to be Arsenal' Coach/Manager? Realistic Option please. Love
ZIDANE, FLICK, INZARGI
Our bench was a little bit better than previous years but you cannot win trophies with players like Nketia, Cedric, Elneny, Reiss Nelson and Timber out whole season ! The bench will definitely be better and definitely help us to win more next season.
Yep ! United, Chelski, Spurz, all over the place, big change at Liverpool but next season we all start at ' Zero ' and go again ! 😊
The only thing I would say is that winning a trophy and the club being in a great state are not mutually exclusive. For example, if Man United win the FA Cup, there’s an argument that they’ve had a better season than Arsenal because they won silverware. However be honest, would you rather have an entire season of frustration and pain watching your club playing poorly but then have one day of being happy because you won an FA cup, or would you rather have an entire season watching exciting and excellent football, pushing the title race all the way to the final day? Football is more than just the trophy you may or may not win at the end of a season, it affects your mood and attitude week in week out.
Tipping point is TT
Great show.
Power to super Kev healing ❤️🩹
At big clubs you dont get flowers getting second place
Arteta does not fancy Martinelli or coach him
He is a maverick
Look what Pep did to Grealish😳
Nearly is good enuf for Arse online fans and esp owners
Arteta is a perfect corporate man for kronkes
We underperformed in the cups fair enough. We lost/drew some games in the epl we shouldn’t have against mediocre teams. But…we finished two points off arguably the (one of the) best teams/mgr in the world. With less payroll by far - city’s total player costs is 1.5x ours. I know people love the banter and some get off on the negative energy, and our little game of “pretend football manager” from the cheap-seats but if any of us REALLY had to make the decision, it is just hilarious to pretend anything other than you keep arteta. Give me a name - someone available and whose hiring won’t upset the balance of the club - you’d hire. Maybe it’s time to go enjoy the summer and stop the bs
If Arteta ever did leave. Fans who think he isnt good enough would get a ride shock when we dorp off
Finishing second with no trophies is not a good season considering the money that has been spent. Liverpool at least won a trophy this year and they would consider this season as a flop.
Need a better bench
Win 30 games and the title is in our hands COYG
could we get player ratings for the season
Gonna do a show this week
We don't need a new coach .we need some luck and hope fine margins go our away .. without that no one is going to beat Pep
If Havertz main man next season - still no trophies
The wheels wud come off the PR wagon
1-0-0% on the parade with the trophy! It is absolutely right + correct to ask questions - but for me its "How do we get better & get over the line to the EPL title, FA/Carabao cups & champions league domination?"
Not "why are we not winning trophies?"
They are almost the same question but 1 has a positive bias, the other has a negative 'lack' focus in its frame of reference.
We have NO divine right to win trophies. We do have a right to expect & demand improvement! This is top tier competitive sport. Not croquet!
There is going to be a big pay off in keeping Arteta. Sacking him solves nothing and creates more problems. Arteta is the solution, not the problem.
I would rather GENUINELY challenge for the title and UCL every year and come 2nd, then hardly/never challenge but with tinpot trophies like the carabao, europa league, or even the FA cup.
Can u imagine Arsenal with a top notch striker and a quality 2nd striker, we need those guys to win games when we are off a little bit, Citys title is not LEGITIMATE, i disagree with u on that, UEFA found them guilty on many of the same charges
Arsenal can only compete as long as Arteta does not have too many games to deal with each season. He is clever enough to not take domestic competitions seriously knowing the squad does not have the potential to perform on the same level as Man City and other top flight teams. Arteta also places a lot of faith in players who will make many mistakes along the way to becoming an above average player. Arteta is unable to bring in players beyond a level of Premier League quality, which is why the team was unable to perform against Porto and Bayern Munich by showing anything exceptional. Very soon the team will have to make new contracts, which might mean losing key players while many others that are average are also on premium rate wages that they are unlikely to get at other clubs.
The reason is kronekes and ownership of the club 20 years of uzmanov the guy thats at everyon and kronekes aka josh and silent stan. Unai the lake of conflict resolution and the language barrier made it hard for unai it wasnt a problem. the issue was wenger having too much power and kronekes ignoring the club because every year wenger made money for the la rams stadium look at the facts doesnt take a rocket sciences to understand that kronekes and wenger were issue with a salary cap they wenger creates every season just to please the kronekes. Okay the stadium emirates had tonpay off but chelseas spending big money, united spending big money, liverpool, everton, spurs even man city which still hasnt been judged for the 115 chargers avoiding finial fair play from a decade. I doslike arteta as a player but his doing an extrmeely brilliant job at arsenal and the experience he brought from pep and city is enough to fight I applaud him but when will kroeneke put that money on the table and arsenal need need to scout players and pay the money of players cost an arm and a leg do it
To me arteta is building a dynasty fan TV channels like Curtis all in general judge from a chair let's be honest some teams were not playing strong football we lost by 2points show me why he shouldn't be there and build more we gonna take it next yr
Our team hasn’t been good enough, that’s why we haven’t won trophies. We can have parts of our team that are good enough though and that includes Arteta, he’s doing a lot of things right while parts of our team are consistently not showing the level, the manager is year on year addressing problem areas and we will win something down the line.
The quality of City has been that good that’s it’s been tough for others to have any success but Arsenal are really close now, this summer is the one where we need to get that quality where Arteta trusts a lot of his bench. Can’t have players like Nketiah, Nelson, Vieira, Smith Rowe, Elneny, Cedric who he’s hesitant to use. Some of them he gave new contracts but I see them as stop gaps when we had more important areas to address. We can upgrade on them now.
You have to play the players in their best position, it is on Arteta.
I havent watched the video, i'll get that out the way. But never in my life did I think we'd have a manager end on 89 goddamn points, improving upon last season, and fans would then ask "Is he the right manager". Who are you getting instead that is going to perform better? Pep? Ancelotti? Perhaps you'd like to flip flop back to Emery now since he's got a better proven record in cup competitions. I can guarantee if Arteta had won a couple more domestic cups and finished third the narrative would be "we want more than those smaller cups, we want to challenge for the league". It's moronic to complain whilst we are still improving and getting so close. The entitlement absolutely stinks.
Curtis .... Pep has normalized wining the league with 90 or more points. Thats crazy. Fergie used to say you are in with a shout of wining the league if you loose 6 or less games. I agree that we have to push on, context is also required. And I'm not an Arteta guy by the way
He has money he has time he is not pep...give him more time...
Last season for arteta to redem himself
Agree totally with you regarding trophies, otherwise we will be like Nandos FC which have had amazing teams and the best stricker for so many seasons but nothing to show for !!!! Kane or Son got nothing to show for all these good years !
Who do you guys want instead of Arteta? I keep hearing get rid of Mikel but not heard anyone suggest anyone else
ZIDANE, FLICK ,INZARGI
Arteta could be the guy IF he’s willing to concede that we need players who aren’t all “nice guys” and “his type “. Big players = big ego
Why do Arteta out people act as if there's many managers that can beat Pep to the title? Every league he's been to he's dominated. Whether we like it or not he's the best there is and he's in a club that can back him financially. This is Arteta's first managerial job and he's already going toe to toe with the best manager in football history. How many more signs do we need to see that Arteta definitely has the tools to become the world class manager Arsenal has been waiting for? He will either become world class at Arsenal or elsewhere and I'd rather it be at Arsenal.
It's also a pointless discussion since we all know that he'll be here next season. What we need to be talking about is how the squad can be improved.
Chelsea and villa will be a problem next szn
Liverpool
How easy is it to get a manager like that this days. Pep is the best coach ever seen. Mikel has done an impeccable job.
Bang up job but nothing to show for it! He needs to produce next year.
Agreed 👍
@@BroughieFacts are though you’re more likely not to win in football across all sports with there being only 4 trophies a season. We need to stop talking like there’s some to win each month. When you’ve not been one of the best teams it’s very likely you’re not gonna be winning something, especially when we’ve had City and Liverpool being elite teams in this country.
I think we need a dot a long to cheer us up
Ok watched the whole show, as a utd fan let me get this off my chest:
Because utd has been overall so shite for the last decade, I get more joy these days outta aftv hate-alongs than my own team's meaningless games for 7th place (sad but it's the truth).
Point is: I am as in tune with Arsenal's progress as my own team. And if you told me a few years ago when you were down in 8th, that in 3-4 years, you will go toe-to-toe with citeh 2 years in a row until the last day, winning like 9 out of your last 10 games (TOUGH fixtures) finishing on 89 points , whilst scoring the most goals and conceding the least - if I was an Arsenal fan I would've bitten your hand off for it (what I described is an absoLUTE miracle - just imagine if man utd in 2027 is on 89 pts, scored 90 goals, conceded 25
VAR took 7 points from us. We would have won. Can’t blame somebody for others mistake. Prem is corrupted bro
Now arsenal channels are going to milk the arteta in or out can he deliver saga for the views and money
Almost did it FC. Next season FC. Win a trophy or shut up. This fanbase is so mid. There's no trophy for challenging. Embarrassing fanbase accepting mediocrity when they chased Wenger out for less. Spicy Spurs. Such a defeatist mindset "Oooh, we gotta wait for Daddy Pepe to leave!" Absolutely pathetic.
WHY ARE WE NOT WINNING SOMETHING, SOMEONE EXPLAIN, ARTETA SHOULD BE WINNING SOMETHING BY NOW, THIS SQUAD IS MORE THAN GOOD ENOUGH, ARTETA FKN UP IMO
I’m still yet to hear the manager that’s supposed to come in and replace Arteta if we sacked him.. I can only see Zidane, Ancelotti, Pep and Klopp doing a better job and none of them are available?
ZIDANE IS
Better bench more rotations
These people who want arteta out. Don’t know ball.
Guys you dont know what you have until its gone!!!. If Mikel leaves today, this club will go backwards 5 years. Lets learn to appreciate what Mikel has done. Im not scared anymore of fixtures like liverpool away, city away,
It wasnt wenger first job, wenger was already coaching, u comparing jose and arteta, u cant do that
Who are you going to bring in to replace arteta? Ok so then he is the right guy
If Mikel stays next season has to be his last chance to win a major honor. I dont know why fans are going crazt for a guy with no trophies. I couldmt understand back Arsene back in the days but Mikel is no where close to him. Arteta has One Last Season give him a warchest and prove us wrong.
only arsenal and liverpool challenged man city the rest were making sure arsenal not progressing than having appetitte to beat man city
In the past, the gap between us and City was so big. But we've improved so much that now, we could close that gap with one very good transfer window. When was the last time we could say that??
I like this trajectory. 📈⬆️
Agreed. Toxic Curtis talking S&@T again what’s new. 🙄
In the past we were ambitious and won trophies.... City were not our concern....
Then Wenger sold out our club and you lot showed up due to our success and players... but enable failure.... make it make sense.. longest trophy drought in our history... add that to about another 50 sackable offences over the last 5 years...
now City has that ambition with owners who love winning f the rest and we have owners who love PR and money because fans like you are dumb and allow it...
So to me your comment makes no sense.... very simple... be ambitious.. force the owners to be ambitious...hire the best no matter what it takes or the closest to... and you win trophies... That's what they did while the rest of the league stopped giving a f...
Excuses excuses excuses, bunch of sissies
Make no sense whatsoever... you're coping..
How was Tottenhams trajectory after getting to champions league final??
You lot keep all the fantasies in your head to justify this manager but reality will keep slapping you in the face.. total losers..
Not how football works.... longest trophy drought in our history is not "progress" ... add that to about another 50 sackable offences over the last 5 years
Artetasexuals just love round abouts... round and round we go.... Hopefully when he leaves, all leave with him and we get a proper club back...
Get these owners out and bring in someone who actually loves football, Arsenal, with ambition, and we start winning trophies consistently...
It's why city overtook the whole league, they are the only ones with real ambition in the league and a winning mentality..
We get that back and city won't be our concern once again... premier league is the PR league... nothing like it was... teams weren't even good this year.. worst defence by far out of the big leagues.. even city were below par
Arteta won't get this chance again unless they practically hand it to him....
Easiest time in PL history to get points.. So much dross and big clubs rebuilding...
Zero excuses left for leggo man.... he will only continue to find new ways to bottle it.. master innovator this guy... true architect in failing to win.... anything at all...
Because City will just stand watching Assna improve right?