Time Team S08-E04 Blaenafon, South Wales

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  • čas přidán 20. 04. 2013
  • Time Team came to Blaenafon, in south Wales, to look for the world's first railway viaduct.
    Forty metres long and ten metres high, this ten-arch stone construction had been built back in 1790 to carry coal to the new Blaenafon blast furnaces, which were at the forefront of the Industrial Revolution in Wales.
    Yet within 25 years of it being built, it had 'disappeared' from the landscape. There was no record of it having been demolished - so where had it gone?

Komentáře • 131

  • @lizzy66125
    @lizzy66125 Před 6 měsíci +4

    this is ,for me,one of the best episodes ever done.

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks for post

  • @tracewilliams616
    @tracewilliams616 Před 5 lety +30

    This was an amazing episode! The Time Team bit off more than they could chew and were Triumphant! A Testament to their Dedication and Professionalism!

  • @dando100
    @dando100 Před 4 lety +22

    I live in California now but I was raised in Blaenafon (or Blaenavon, the English spelling). Big Pit mining museum with its ever so slightly scary descent to the coal face and the excellent and historic Iron Works where one of the main characters is Americas own very famous Industrialist Robert Carnegie, are very much worth a visit. You will also find the local landscape and surrounding towns to be very enjoyable. Just take a rain coat :-).
    Thank you for uploading, uploader.

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety +3

      Sadly the spelling *Blaenavon* has become standard in *Wales* depite there being no _v_ in *Cymraeg.*

    • @leecarlson9713
      @leecarlson9713 Před 5 měsíci

      Loved the “just bring a raincoat” comment! That is most true about Wales, but in Great Britain in general.

  • @Stu161
    @Stu161 Před 2 lety +5

    27:40 is why I'm a Phil Harding fan; he has an unabashed wonder for historical spaces

  • @eileenflute9382
    @eileenflute9382 Před 8 lety +17

    this episode has some of the best music of all TT episodes!

  • @shadetreader
    @shadetreader Před rokem +1

    A delightful testament to the satisfaction workers can feel from a job well done-- we all deserve the fruits of our labour!

  • @blaggercoyote
    @blaggercoyote Před rokem +2

    The cost of investigations on this scale must be enormous!

  • @miekekuppen9275
    @miekekuppen9275 Před 5 lety +12

    What an excellent episode! I don´t normally like the industrial ones but this was very interesting.

  • @GrahamCLester
    @GrahamCLester Před 4 lety +6

    I have learned so much about technology, ancient and modern, from the Time Team reconstructions.

  • @jamesyates8736
    @jamesyates8736 Před 4 lety +4

    Great find on You Tube - my partner's father was a coal miner down Big Pit, she would help her mother pack sandwiches and piece of cake for his meal underground.

    • @leecarlson9713
      @leecarlson9713 Před 5 měsíci

      Just imagine the memories she has! I hope someone writes her stories down, and gives them to the Museum associated with the Bit Pit.

  • @behindthetree9022
    @behindthetree9022 Před 3 lety +4

    God bless that old man and woman at 9:53. They look like they would even have problem remember where they live now, let alone 50-60 years ago. lol

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Před 6 lety +27

    "Industrial archaeology" becomes industrial-scale archaeology, when they have to shift a substantial chunk of South Wales just to reach a structure.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 4 lety +2

      It's Always that way especially with the earliest places and parts of industry modernity such as this part of wales.

  • @MyPoetik
    @MyPoetik Před 5 lety +7

    I love the logo of this show and looking at the process of making something like Iron replica of it was wonderful

  • @Watcher1852
    @Watcher1852 Před 2 lety +1

    THANK YOU

  • @ericeric363
    @ericeric363 Před rokem +1

    I’m an American of Welsh descent, so this fascinates me. As does all the history of the UK, just a bit partial of Wales.

  • @Chubachus
    @Chubachus Před 9 lety +14

    Reminds me of the deep pit dug on Oak Island in search of treasure. So cool that they actually found the viaduct here though.

  • @rudnaldeckert301
    @rudnaldeckert301 Před 11 lety +4

    Hartstikke bedankt

  • @lameesahmad9166
    @lameesahmad9166 Před 6 lety +11

    Shew!!! Those poor children working there. What a life!!!

    • @hermannschaefer4777
      @hermannschaefer4777 Před 5 lety +4

      Burning cables to get the metal in modern Africa isn't that much better, isn't it?

    • @kuripangui
      @kuripangui Před 5 lety +4

      Kids burning motherboards to get the semiconductor elements in India

  • @Barouche
    @Barouche Před 4 lety +2

    A really interesting episode. This demonstrates a fascination for archaeology but utter contempt for the poor old choir at the end.

  • @TimBoulette
    @TimBoulette Před 3 lety +2

    Few things are better than a delighted Phil Harding.

  • @lisakilmer2667
    @lisakilmer2667 Před 7 lety +11

    All of a sudden, while watching this, I thought of the landfills that we create today, not unlike this slag pile. I wondered why they buried the viaduct - if they thought it would help hold the waste in place? Unfortunately there are other slag heaps in Wales that make this Blaenafon site look pretty. I refer to the slate heaps, which are jagged and black and quite scary.

    • @51WCDodge
      @51WCDodge Před 5 lety +2

      There was also Aberfan. I lost two cousins there.

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety +1

      All waste heaps are ugly as well as scary. I've seen many of them but the whitish ones from the *Cornish* china clay quarries and pits are the worst.pastremainsblog.blogspot.com/2017/04/china-clay-pit-st-austell-cornwall.html

  • @CountessMaryaZaleska
    @CountessMaryaZaleska Před 5 lety +16

    The first rail viaduct in the world.
    World Heritage or the Lottery should fund excavating the 500,000 tons of dirt to uncover the complete 1790 viaduct, for the education and edification of future generations.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 3 lety

      And put it where? That's a billion kilos miss. Shifting it would release an untenable amount of dust and moving it somewhere just created a whole new ecological scar on wales.

  • @berniemccann8935
    @berniemccann8935 Před 6 lety +4

    Someone, once asked a mountaineer, 'Why climb Mount Everest?' The answer, 'Because it's there.' Seems we've got his brother here. ;-)

  • @andrewwyatt1784
    @andrewwyatt1784 Před 4 lety +15

    Really interesting; industrial and deep! working class history, treated with passion and respect...its a cultural crime, that a programme with all the elements of this, does not exist today

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 3 lety +2

      There's a channel called time team classics that is run by the original creator of tt. They are crowd funding new episodes as we speak

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 Před rokem +2

      @@joshschneider9766 - they have new episodes coming out AND Tony has rejoined the team...!

  • @lindahedman3115
    @lindahedman3115 Před 4 lety +1

    Exciting project!

  • @elspethgraham9531
    @elspethgraham9531 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow! Impressive amount of dirt to move to get down to the viaduct. Have to wonder how the viaduct got buried so deep.

  • @profaneangel0842
    @profaneangel0842 Před rokem +1

    Could we belatedly dedicate this episode to poor young Elizabeth Jones? 😔🙏

  • @notthatbitchagain6857
    @notthatbitchagain6857 Před 4 lety +2

    A part of my mixed blood calls to me from Wales. I see that mame, I click.
    Thanks for posting.

  • @tommyfred6180
    @tommyfred6180 Před 5 lety +9

    they are digging for homes younger than the one I live in :)

    • @leecarlson9713
      @leecarlson9713 Před 5 měsíci +1

      As an American, your comment is almost impossible to understand!

  • @gwendolynfish2102
    @gwendolynfish2102 Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing episode!

  • @stannousflouride8372
    @stannousflouride8372 Před 8 lety +12

    The spot of the Big Hole is visibly greener:
    51.779627ºN, 3.090652ºW

  • @DragonFae16
    @DragonFae16 Před 3 lety +3

    When it was first mentioned that coke was one of the three ingredients used, my first thought was 'they used cocaine to make iron?!' Then the guy explained what the coke he was referring to was, and I laughed. Having very different things sharing the same name can be confusing sometimes.

    • @judeirwin2222
      @judeirwin2222 Před 2 lety

      Only if you have a very limited education.

    • @leecarlson9713
      @leecarlson9713 Před 5 měsíci

      There is a third possibility-CocaCola, the soda pop drink. In America, that would most likely have been the first choice.

  • @Wppk765
    @Wppk765 Před 3 lety +2

    Apparently, I’m not up on my Welsh. I kept thinking they were callin the locale “Blind Oven”

  • @christinemaupin9674
    @christinemaupin9674 Před 4 lety

    The music was okay but I love the history they're uncovering

  • @bukster1
    @bukster1 Před 9 lety +40

    Wow, so this entire area is covered tens of meters deep with industrial slag? The volume of trash just boggles the imagination.

    • @MrAlumni72
      @MrAlumni72 Před 9 lety +11

      bukster1 Incredible - I think they said the viaduct was 17 meters high, and then another 12 meters of debris on top of that - and apparently all within 25 years! the entire valley, too, since there was no trace left of it at all.

    • @tibfulv
      @tibfulv Před 4 lety +4

      There is a pile of amphorae in Rome that is so big, it's an artificial hill a kilometre wide and 35 metres tall. Called Monte Testaccio.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 4 lety +1

      Thousands of other sites world wide too. Not one of the better traditions the UK has exported

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 4 lety +2

      Also it took almost two hundred years to fill the valley it was an operational iron mine until the nineteen seventies well past it's use as a casting site.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 4 lety +1

      No basically about it they backfilled hundreds of square kilometers.

  • @panthera50
    @panthera50 Před 8 lety +1

    Geweldig !!

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety

      Dirfawr?

    • @panthera50
      @panthera50 Před 3 lety

      @@philaypeephilippotter6532 Toll ? if that's German, yep. LOL

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 3 lety

      @@panthera50
      1. _Geweldig_ is apparently *Dutch* and not *German!* It seems to mean _great_ or _terrific._ I assume you are *Dutch,* as was my friend *Hank,* so please correct me as I may well be wrong.
      2. I mistakenly thought it was *Welsh.*
      3. _Dirfawr_ means _enormous._ It _is_ *Welsh.*
      4. I didn't realise how long ago you posted.
      5. I posted my reply quite a while ago now.
      6. What did you mean?
      I've seen _all_ the *TT* digs and I think this was one of the best. I think the actual best was the one on the *Scots* island of *Mull* czcams.com/video/j58tAfNXzgM/video.html .

  • @TeresaTrimm
    @TeresaTrimm Před 3 lety +2

    First aired on January 28, 2001.

  • @karalee66
    @karalee66 Před 7 lety +5

    this is series 8 episode 5 (not4). I tried to find the date to find out how old I was when I first saw it because I remember watching it with my Dad. Answer I had just turned 7

  • @katnip6289
    @katnip6289 Před 4 lety +7

    It made me feel sick when they said that very young kids worked from sun up to sun down carrying buckets of iron ore up and down the hill. And one of them died.

    • @kathysenn7664
      @kathysenn7664 Před 4 lety +3

      me too.. very graphic description of the return of her body to her people, but I think it most respectful.. I can feel her mother's grief, she carrying her wee body for a few short years, not expecting to out live her...
      this episode was one of the most emotional, considering the lives lost and forgotten under so much earth...

    • @51WCDodge
      @51WCDodge Před 4 lety +4

      @@kathysenn7664 Every time a coal fire spits, a Miner dies. My family were South Wales Miners. My Father at age 12 lost his older brother Fred, then 18 ina mining acident. He was working with my Grandfather, There was a roof fall and Fred hit his head. He took 6 months to die.18 months later my Grandmother was dead. My Father said she died of a brocken heart.

    • @kathysenn7664
      @kathysenn7664 Před 4 lety +2

      @@51WCDodge I'm so sorry.. they worked so hard under terrible conditions to eak out a living..at what cost?!?
      ✝️🌹💝🕯️🛐

    • @51WCDodge
      @51WCDodge Před 4 lety +3

      @@kathysenn7664 Very true. But many families in the area will have similar stories. If les than 5 men died it didn't even enter official records as a disatster.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 3 lety +2

      Average British woman in the 1880s had six kids. Some twice that. None of them were shy about forcing their kids to work. Just the times they lived in. Was no different in the USA or the European mainland.

  • @benediktmorak4409
    @benediktmorak4409 Před rokem +2

    nice to see that Time Team not - only - did Roman and - stone age - excavations...
    who were the choir and what was the song they were performing the last few seconds? for sure they deserve that we could hear somewhere their whole song?

    • @leecarlson9713
      @leecarlson9713 Před 5 měsíci +1

      They were also singing during Tony’s intro.

    • @benediktmorak4409
      @benediktmorak4409 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@leecarlson9713 no one knows the whole song, a link, a title? after a whole year, no answer to that...At the end of the episode on can see and hear the whole choir sing. But the credits run to fast to make out who they were. and when stopping the line running, it is so blurred, one can read nothing. So, who is the magnificent Choir performing that great song?

  • @Rbattam
    @Rbattam Před 11 lety +1

    Yeah so true, so much Hart stikke and bendankt in this video.

  • @nov3019892008
    @nov3019892008 Před 7 lety +4

    my hometown

  • @ClaireAgincourt
    @ClaireAgincourt Před 3 lety +1

    I went on google maps to see what it looks like today, and they just refilled the hole. is just a field again. No care or further work was put into it. was really sad.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 3 lety +1

      It's not that no one cares it's that Wales can't afford to dig there and also moving a billion kilos of spoil and such would just create another industrial waste zone in wal es. None of the workers there would want that for their descendants right?

  • @susanf.7737
    @susanf.7737 Před 5 lety +2

    Bloody hell.

  • @speedysteve9121
    @speedysteve9121 Před 4 lety +1

    Men of Harlech stop your dreaming, can't you see their spear points gleaming. Still sends a shiver down my spine.

  • @anthonyfischer2408
    @anthonyfischer2408 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Elizabeth Jones crushed, a mutilated landscape, probably uncountable horses worked to death,...and all the garbage created on the site used to cover it up. It reminds me a lot of the land east of Columbus, Ohio. I'm having a bit of a time seeing much positive out of this. Not to ignore it, of course. Just to recognize it cost a great deal in many different ways.

  • @eileenflute9382
    @eileenflute9382 Před 8 lety +4

    17:24-17:42 John Geo-fizz looks like he's chewing on disbelief...

  • @FomeyMustashtdi
    @FomeyMustashtdi Před rokem +1

    So, are Kate Hurst and Jennifer Butterworth twins 🤔? Just curious.

  • @eboracum2012
    @eboracum2012 Před 3 lety

    At 20:03, did that farmer say it was 53 or 54 year ago (talking about his garden) and then tell Carenza she was just a toddler then? I must say, she was remarkably restrained in her reply---she just went heh-heh.

    • @l-b284
      @l-b284 Před 2 lety +1

      hard life makes you age faster :)

    • @cookiesshorts6118
      @cookiesshorts6118 Před 2 lety +1

      Pretty sure he said "I was a toddler". Being a joke... because obviously he wasn't a toddler 53 years ago

  • @lafeelabriel
    @lafeelabriel Před rokem

    10k tons of dirt. Or about the weight of a WW2 cruiser.
    And not a small WW2 cruiser like the C class or the Arethusas either..

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune Před 6 lety +1

    Via no chicken?

  • @SandraNelson063
    @SandraNelson063 Před 4 lety +2

    How do you lose a village, mines, viaducts...and a whole valley? That's just very careless and thoughtless.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 3 lety +3

      Bury it in gigatons of slag. Simple and ugly truth is they didn't think long term whatsoever.

  • @michaelschleifer9003
    @michaelschleifer9003 Před 5 lety +5

    Why a duck? 🦆

  • @desslokbasileus571
    @desslokbasileus571 Před 3 lety

    44:24 44:50  45:58 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @markgarin6355
    @markgarin6355 Před rokem

    Pretty sure it was demolished.

  • @jonsutherland1
    @jonsutherland1 Před 5 lety

    did anyone excavate it further later on?

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety

      Probably not yet. I looked today and could find no reference to a further excavation but I'm quite sure that there'll be one.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 Před 3 lety

      It's completely untenable to move enough to run a detailed site analysis. All you would achieve is creating another industrial waste zone in Wales and trust me there's already enough there.

  • @phoule76
    @phoule76 Před 3 lety

    I hope it gets fully exposed some day.

  • @davidmunro1469
    @davidmunro1469 Před 2 lety

    Derek trucks

  • @donaldhotep3639
    @donaldhotep3639 Před 5 lety +1

    Is it just me or even by English standards, it seems the Time Team had rotten luck with weather?

    • @bonzey1171
      @bonzey1171 Před 5 lety +2

      It rains a lot in south Wales. A lot. More than in England for sure

    • @51WCDodge
      @51WCDodge Před 5 lety +4

      Lsten Boyo! If you don't like the weather in Wales, wait ten minutes. There can be five seasons in an hour on those mountains.

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety +1

      *Wales* is _not_ *England* (says a naturalised *Briton* ).

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bonzey1171 It rains a lot in north *Wales* too. 😉

    • @philaypeephilippotter6532
      @philaypeephilippotter6532 Před 4 lety

      @@51WCDodge I _know._ 😉

  • @Kid_Kootenay
    @Kid_Kootenay Před 3 lety

    Guys seriously go to Walmart and buy a rc car with a camera lol you spent all that money on digging

  • @DaveRogers583
    @DaveRogers583 Před 2 lety

    I don't get the point of digging up what you already know is there and have full knowledge of its details. Unless the point is to create content for your TV show.