MTG - A Study In Slivers - A Guide To EDH / Commander Sliver Decks in Magic: The Gathering

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    As always, this is meant as a starting template. In commander more so than any other format, the personal touch and customization is half the fun.
    From deep within the cavernous belly of Rath, to the bloodied laboratory of the Riptide Project, spreading even so far as the distant Eastern Shores on the rogue plane of Shandalar...there's one commander that is feared by all others, at that is the commander of the Slivers.
    Although there are several Legendary Slivers, Sliver Overlord is the clear choice for Commander. 5 mana for a 7/7 is nothing compared to his ability to tutor for slivers. The ability to grab the specific sliver you need for the specific situation that you are in, and continue doing so, even multiple times per turn, is the ultimate in toolkit decks.
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Komentáře • 981

  • @Isheian
    @Isheian Před 4 lety +379

    Wouldn’t mind an update with all the new cards!

    • @jarltryggvi
      @jarltryggvi Před 3 lety +12

      Bro, Kaldheim reworked my Sliver Deck almost entirely. Spiteful Sliver now works as a kill opponent button with Hivelord in play, because Orvar the All-Form allows you to copy Spiteful Sliver multiple times

    • @nicolasfurger1032
      @nicolasfurger1032 Před 3 lety

      Yes please!

    • @burningpapersun1
      @burningpapersun1 Před 3 lety

      @@jarltryggvi God now I'm going to have to do that.

    • @somemooshycheezballz4619
      @somemooshycheezballz4619 Před 3 lety +1

      @@burningpapersun1 same I’m just making my sliver deck for the first time and I’m excited but cards are getting expensive

    • @burningpapersun1
      @burningpapersun1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@somemooshycheezballz4619 my sliver deck cracked a grand when i finally put fetchlands in it. I'm just lacking a Sliver Queen.

  • @SpectrumHazard
    @SpectrumHazard Před 8 lety +407

    God, watching this video, as someone who doesn't play Slivers, is terrifying.

    • @sungross
      @sungross Před 8 lety +11

      Prepare to face total annihilation from my future slivers!

    • @ericparham1086
      @ericparham1086 Před 8 lety +11

      +Sung Hong I just built this deck, and it is off the walls insane.

    • @sungross
      @sungross Před 8 lety +1

      +Eric Parham I know right? Even in pauper format, slivers are crazy good aggro against even regular standard decks.

    • @ScornfulEg0tist
      @ScornfulEg0tist Před 8 lety +9

      +Richard Rominger Slivers are nasty. I occasionally pit my edh decks against each other, and whenever I randomly pair one with my slivers I basically consider it to be a boss fight.
      Sliver mid to endgame is overwhelmingly broken, since all your creatures are usually giant unblockable vampire nighthawks with shroud and double strike.

    • @ericparham1086
      @ericparham1086 Před 8 lety +2

      Sung Hong I recently modified the deck and gave all of my slivers lifelink and deathtouch.

  • @marcushart4445
    @marcushart4445 Před 3 lety +59

    Sees legion at 50 and Queen at 42
    “Yup that’s expensive isn’t it prof?”

    • @halla1rw
      @halla1rw Před 3 lety +3

      Glad I bought my copies 7 years ago when they were 40 each used.

    • @chudrustler
      @chudrustler Před 2 lety

      Yeah

    • @LeoInterVir
      @LeoInterVir Před 2 lety

      Yup I got those cards a bit ago for less. I need to go through what I have.

    • @midnogreen8405
      @midnogreen8405 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LeoInterVir for less????
      Here in europe sliver queen is 250+

    • @LeoInterVir
      @LeoInterVir Před 2 lety

      @@midnogreen8405 if I didn't enjoy slivers I'd sell them for profit.

  • @Szszszszszszszszsz
    @Szszszszszszszszsz Před 9 lety +44

    Slivers was my first Commander deck. One thing I particularly enjoy about them is that they remind me of the alien franchise aliens. Sort of a fantasy version of those. On the other hand, they win so much that it's not that fun playing against them and these days I only play them against decks that all my other decks fail against. They are sort of my last resort deck. But they sure are fun to play with. Also: best wishes from Poland, Professor. I find both your voice and your manner of speaking soothing. Like a massage for my soul.

  • @noisepollution4473
    @noisepollution4473 Před 9 lety +62

    This is the first video of yours that I've watched, and I must say that I appreciate the fact that you don't expect your viewers to have infinite money like a lot of people making deck techs seem to. Thanks!

    • @jaxo6226
      @jaxo6226 Před 4 lety +1

      THIS IS EXPENSIVE AS HELL!!!!
      i've only counted 25 cards

    • @anthonykoenig8901
      @anthonykoenig8901 Před rokem

      You don't need anything but the overlord. The rest are icing on top. The rest do whatever you want as most are 1 to 3 mana.

  • @magnusprime10
    @magnusprime10 Před 8 lety +135

    There are two types of players: Those who use Armageddon and those who don't. haha

    • @ReyBlanco216
      @ReyBlanco216 Před 7 lety

      Milton Woo got hit with one last night while running this very deck. before I had the ramp slivers =/

    • @ottovonbismarck7646
      @ottovonbismarck7646 Před 6 lety +2

      And there's also those who don't play white.

    • @Tupiaz
      @Tupiaz Před 5 lety +4

      Why play Armageddon when you can play Jokulhaups!?

    • @failmaster69
      @failmaster69 Před 3 lety

      My favorite memory of using Armageddon was when my opponent exiled my avacyn angel of hope then wipe my board so in return. I wiped out all his mana

  • @DDNEV
    @DDNEV Před 8 lety +38

    I would run the sliver that says "All slivers gain Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless it's controller pays 2". It makes lightning bolt, mugging, or any other pesky targeted removal cost 2 more. It definitely buys time.

    • @Wilwhelm
      @Wilwhelm Před 2 lety +2

      I believe this is called the Diffusion Sliver. its a 2 drop too its amazing!

  • @hermodnitter3902
    @hermodnitter3902 Před 5 lety +49

    And now, include "The First Sliver". Hope you got your Sliver Queen already :)

    • @Thoughtmage100
      @Thoughtmage100 Před 5 lety +1

      I'm not gonna bother running Sliver Queen unless I can get one for cheap. I can use The First Sliver with some tech choices to make it more reliable than Queen anyway.

    • @knightr9435
      @knightr9435 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Thoughtmage100 you can get an altered art of Sliver Queen for 6 dollars if you plan on only playing casually

    • @panic5306
      @panic5306 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Thoughtmage100 my local FLGS got a hold of Overlord, hive lord, and the first sliver and wanted 20 for each. Best 60 bucks I spent in my entire life

  • @MichaelTheNinthOne
    @MichaelTheNinthOne Před 5 lety +50

    I'd love it if you duel with Josh and Jimmy from Commandzone again bring a sliver deck

    • @Chiefkid20
      @Chiefkid20 Před 4 lety +3

      Enthusiastically seconded! Granded, he'll be a clear target from the get-go, but it'd be worth it.

    • @Beaver_Rapsmith
      @Beaver_Rapsmith Před 4 lety +2

      I'd watch that

  • @FlourEater
    @FlourEater Před 8 lety +19

    watching MTG vids with nostalgia... I´ve stopped with MTG around Mercadian Masque edition, veteran from the Alpha and Beta edition. Nice to see Slivers still going strong !

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi Před 8 lety

      Theyre not really going strong. The last set they were printed in was Time Spiral. 2006-07...:p

    • @Burgerkingaka
      @Burgerkingaka Před 8 lety +7

      +johnnyscifi You're forgetting m15

    • @ThePokeDemon
      @ThePokeDemon Před 8 lety +4

      +Aire Valor and m14 too

  • @Building2000
    @Building2000 Před 9 lety +10

    I have been building this deck sense I first started magic. I love my slivers with a passion. its such an amazing commander deck.

    • @OrochiDoesMincraft
      @OrochiDoesMincraft Před 4 lety

      I know right they are so fun. I'm still building mine.

    • @jamesmoore1317
      @jamesmoore1317 Před 3 lety +1

      @@OrochiDoesMincraft Slivers is one of the first commander tribals I wanted to make after I got some from Modern Horizons but I didn't have enough to make it work even with changelings. :( but then Time Spiral Remastered came out and now I have too many slivers to choose from! :D I use the hivelord and, yeah, indestructible slivers are insane. What is that golgari deck? No exile based removal and not enough sacrificed based removal to make a difference? I had to put the deck aside as too powerful for most games (in a 1v1 pairing).

  • @Dad_Taku
    @Dad_Taku Před 9 lety +11

    One of the fun things that my buddy runs in his sliver commander is an intruder alarm so that he could go off infinite

  • @bughouse1521
    @bughouse1521 Před 3 lety +24

    Me watching this trying to build a sliver commander deck: “Wow! Look at all those good commanders! I want all of them in a deck! I mean sure the commanders cost around $50 each but that is not so bad!” *Googles sliver queen for sale* “Ahhhhhhhh!”

    • @halla1rw
      @halla1rw Před 3 lety

      And only because of Modern Horizons 1. You could buy them both for roughly 40 each used for the last 7 years before that came out.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Před 2 lety

      It's not so bad....years ago i got the Japanese Sliver Queen for $40 USD these days it is just about the same price as the English one while back then the English one was around $100 USD so yeah till people caught on about buying different languages being cheaper i was lucky. These days it is actually about half the price of the English one so still a good deal

    • @Samagachi
      @Samagachi Před rokem

      You could try making morophon the boundless your commander. Change his type to sliver and suddenly every legendary sliver’s mana cost is 0.

  • @dominicsevilla1189
    @dominicsevilla1189 Před 9 lety +2

    My cousin gave me a sliver deck to have when I started and absolutely loved it. This helps a lot. I also love the music for this video. Very ominous for slivers

  • @naughtscribe
    @naughtscribe Před 6 lety

    This deck looks like SO much fun! I'm trying for a mono-red goblin deck right now, but I love how this is almost the exact opposite side of the scale. Excellent deck tech. Thanks again, Prof!

  • @Tedurbin202
    @Tedurbin202 Před 9 lety +9

    Another suggestion I have in my Sliver EDH are all ten gates in addition to maze's end. It let's you fetch up mazes when you need them, and is in itself a win condition if the need arises.
    Also, Amulet of Vigor can help budget builds with their land bases, and has a nice bonus of shutting down obnoxious cards like frozen aether or Urabrask, the hidden.

  • @crypticmrchimes
    @crypticmrchimes Před 9 lety +5

    Thanks, for the video, Professor. My one suggestion would have been to add in Patriarch's Bidding. Since it's a Sliver tribal deck, your most likely going to profit the most from it, even against other tribal decks.

  • @mund.8529
    @mund.8529 Před rokem +1

    This video inspired me to build my first commander deck all those years ago, and while it's currently retired, I can't wait to sleeve it up again with the additions from Commander Masters :)
    Would love to see an update, especially after seeing the deck still exists in your triple sleeving guide!

  • @jessewski
    @jessewski Před 10 lety +2

    I freaking love Slivers, so much! This made me really happy to see.

  • @DCAMM720
    @DCAMM720 Před 9 lety +6

    This deck certainly looks fun to play. I'm a huge fan of slivers. It also doesn't look to be unfair and shouldn't be TOO hated out in playgroups. But how COMPETITIVE do you think this deck is in your experience? I see a lot of insane combo decks running around that this deck might have trouble dealing with.

  • @Lumpyrox1412
    @Lumpyrox1412 Před 9 lety +3

    Well...i've been looking into Commander as the format i want to make my primary focus in Magic and i think you just sold the idea of running Slivers to me.
    They seem quirky (which is part of my own personal touch) and still mighty dangerous.
    Plus getting to be the guy everyone points their guns at first is rather thrilling~

    • @GudHunterYT96
      @GudHunterYT96 Před 5 lety

      Lumpyrox
      It’s fun till you face another sliver deck and it’s a race to the first one to drop their overlord and kill the others 😂

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Před 2 lety +1

      @@GudHunterYT96 more fun if you drop something to give your stuff hexproof then drop your overlord stealing theirs

    • @GudHunterYT96
      @GudHunterYT96 Před 2 lety

      @@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena couple years late lol

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Před 2 lety

      @@GudHunterYT96 nah not really lol

  • @giggles69
    @giggles69 Před 10 lety

    Really digging the commander focused videos you're making! Really hope you make more videos like this in the future! Keep up the good work Tolarian :)

  • @vballbadandy1
    @vballbadandy1 Před 9 lety +1

    Love your take on the sliver deck. I got into commander a few years ago and the first deck I made was slivers. The biggest problem Ive found, which you did touch on, is that I am usually the target as soon as my friends see me put the overlord into my commander zone. in place of psionic sliver, I prefer to run screeching sliver as my non attacking win condition. Even though its not as practical, I love watching my friends faces as they mill all their strongest cards away

  • @Narutorocksbeleiveit
    @Narutorocksbeleiveit Před 8 lety +39

    +Tolarian Community College
    because I'm a terrible human being and saw this, would you recommend throwing a ghostflame Sliver (all slivers are colorless) and an Ugin, the Spirit Dragon combo in the deck.
    it seems ridiculous, but if Ugin is in your hand you can tutor for the ghostflame and drop ugin to use his -7 and wipe most of the opponent's board with no repercussions, correct?

    • @Narutorocksbeleiveit
      @Narutorocksbeleiveit Před 8 lety +1

      Isn't it

    • @imsorrydave9000
      @imsorrydave9000 Před 5 lety

      Genius

    • @thedoctor559
      @thedoctor559 Před 5 lety +3

      There will be one issue, The second you pull out Sliver Overlord ever again it'll always be Archenemy. But it probably was anyway so... genius.

  • @Ratstail91
    @Ratstail91 Před 9 lety +4

    I'd like to try a sliver deck one day, and I'm slowly collecting them via pucatrade. When I finally try it, I want to have the 10 Ravnica gates, + Maze's End.
    P.S. The big problem with Commander is that if your deck is too powerful, then nobody wants to play with you; I'd lay this sliver deck qualifies.

    • @jamesmoore1317
      @jamesmoore1317 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I had to set mine aside as too strong for most games :P

  • @MrH567
    @MrH567 Před 7 lety +1

    I have to say Prof, as always, when i'm in doubt of my hive i come back to this video to see if i have strayed from the path. I have crushed many a deck with my Overlord. I am feared by many, hated by many more. The hive lives on.
    Love
    -One devoted fan of the Prof and of the sliver hive.

  • @innapropriateshow
    @innapropriateshow Před 9 lety

    I must say, great video. This channel has quickly become my favorite source for mtg.

  • @GoatOfTheMountains
    @GoatOfTheMountains Před 10 lety +8

    The Vivid lands are another decent mana fix, for on the cheap. I usually find I'm in a more comfortable place mana wise by the time the 2nd counter is gone, if I even have to consider that at all.

    • @MrMaster90
      @MrMaster90 Před 10 lety +4

      I also like how the Vivid lands enable Reflecting Pool, which should also go in the deck. I'm glad Conspiracy reduced the price on it.

    • @GoatOfTheMountains
      @GoatOfTheMountains Před 10 lety +1

      Good catch.

    • @fyiicheckforspies
      @fyiicheckforspies Před 10 lety

      MrMaster90 I never thought of that combo, thanks!

    • @arsonedaxe8466
      @arsonedaxe8466 Před 9 lety

      Love the lair lands

    • @sandwichboy1268
      @sandwichboy1268 Před 5 lety

      I used to run all 5 Vivids in my sliver deck, but my mana base turned out to be good enough that the only things the vivids did above basics is enter tapped and sit there with counters on them.

  • @rockwarlock9573
    @rockwarlock9573 Před 9 lety +4

    Would you consider sedge sliver a decent addition since is has power boost and regen?

  • @MrWhatever647
    @MrWhatever647 Před 10 lety

    Finally, an actual guide! My first sliver deck wasn't bad, but now I know how to actually use and fix my sliver commander deck. Thanks professor!

  • @bradgreco6973
    @bradgreco6973 Před 6 lety

    Dude I absolutely love your videos on deck ideas. I built your Karametra deck and I love it. You are my favorite go to for EDH deck ideas

  • @Sylvian
    @Sylvian Před 9 lety +3

    I use Vivid lands in my Sliver EDH. I think they are better than tri-lands, because for 2 usages they function as 5 colored mana. Which most of the time is enough to push me to turn 5-6, where I have either a full mana spectrum or a Gemhide /Manaweft Sliver on board.

    • @MetPhD
      @MetPhD Před 5 lety

      Thank you! Finally someone else with the vivids!

  • @chrisgebben2043
    @chrisgebben2043 Před 5 lety +6

    "fury sliver"
    no no no
    "Bonescythe Sliver" is the correct one for double strike enable it cost 2 less than fury
    "Victual sliver"
    wrong again
    "Darkheart Sliver" is the correct one it may be one life less but its the same cmc and its free to sacrifice your slivers
    also diffusion sliver is fantasic defense thats cheap it gives all slivers spell pierce protection
    and if you have karraks thumb playing frenetic sliver might come in handy but not recommended
    and theres a budget alternative to shifting sliver and its just as good iand its 1 mana less ts called "shadow sliver" it gives slivers shadow
    and ghostflame sliver is considered a hidden gem that can get slivers past the color protection permanents most particually the swords
    oh even though its a old video its not as budget as it uset to be

  • @lahojaqueflota
    @lahojaqueflota Před 8 lety

    This is awesome! I don't play MTG anymore but when I did I always wanted to build Slivers. If i ever get back into it, hopefully I can make something like this! Keep it up!

  • @denispellerin2815
    @denispellerin2815 Před 9 lety

    Thank you so much for this video. I always wanted to get into edh and this is exactly what I want to play. Also love the music in the vid. Keep up the great work tcc

  • @MrGorerider187
    @MrGorerider187 Před 9 lety +25

    I made my girlfriend a sliver deck for her birthday.... Instant regret D:

    • @panic5306
      @panic5306 Před 3 lety +3

      My friend taught me how to play magic. He then proceeded to gift me his sliver deck. Without slivers magic would not be the same for me.

  • @MirageDragonMyrgon
    @MirageDragonMyrgon Před 10 lety +12

    Question. Why did you pick Fury Sliver over Bonescythe Sliver? I would think the difference in power and toughness would be negligent given the number anthem slivers there are, and is more than made up for by being 2 cheaper to cast. Also...how about the Hellrider sliver? (Thorncaster, I believe?)

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 10 lety +29

      MirageDragonMyrgon Er...uh...because I was testing you. Yes! Yes! You passed. Congrats. My not including the better Bonescythe sliver was absolutely intentional. /quickly updates list

    • @MirageDragonMyrgon
      @MirageDragonMyrgon Před 10 lety +3

      Tolarian Community College haha Fair enough. Glad I passed! ;)

    • @weareroger
      @weareroger Před 10 lety +5

      Counterpoint: fury sliver actually looks like a damn sliver and not supersword arm tentacle dreadsman.

    • @hotaruasmaria7504
      @hotaruasmaria7504 Před 9 lety +1

      Roger Mexico agreed. I would choose any of sliver over new. Looks alone is enough for me.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Před 2 lety

      @@weareroger counter counter point: the only good looking one is Thicc Sliv-er i mean Diffusion Sliver.
      Why did they make it the only one to look female?

  • @pauljohnson3317
    @pauljohnson3317 Před 8 lety

    I just assembled this deck! Very stoked to go and play edh tonight! Thanks Professor!

  • @lukasbubliauskas
    @lukasbubliauskas Před 6 lety

    This was super helpful! I really want to play Sliver cards now! It’s like a colored, cheaper, more efficient version of Eldrazi! I really liked this video! Keep up the awesome work Prof!

  • @leetwizard7029
    @leetwizard7029 Před 9 lety +5

    Would you replace the Panoramas with the Khans of Tarkir tri-lands?

  • @captaint1153
    @captaint1153 Před 8 lety +6

    What no one get the title reference?
    A Study in Scarlet? Anyone?

    • @MetPhD
      @MetPhD Před 5 lety

      I missed it, and regret missing it - thank you for the enlightenment!

  • @xxshadow234xx
    @xxshadow234xx Před 9 lety

    Just wanna say I love you videos. I started watching a little more then 2 weeks ago. Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @sebastiancoe4708
    @sebastiancoe4708 Před 5 lety

    I've been thinking about making a sliver deck and this is just what I need to get started, thank you !

  • @Gurwazer
    @Gurwazer Před 10 lety +5

    Great video Tolarian!

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 10 lety +1

      Daneel Rakow Thanks!

    • @JoeGamingA
      @JoeGamingA Před 9 lety

      Hey tolarian I love your videos and please tell me how you got the idea for the name "tolarian"

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 9 lety +1

      Joe Ainsworth From one of the most powerful and broken (banned in just about everything) cards: gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=8883
      Now, we're not the Academy here, but we do have a very nice certificate program...

    • @JoeGamingA
      @JoeGamingA Před 9 lety

      Ah I see well keep doing what your doing please

    • @uberwow13
      @uberwow13 Před 9 lety

      Tolarian Community College and someone's rebuilding it well :)

  • @penor4904
    @penor4904 Před 8 lety +7

    Can you do one for Myrs? I've been making one and I want to improve it

    • @penor4904
      @penor4904 Před 8 lety

      XToverdrive Tribal Myrs work great in commander, mine has been more then enough to stop most other decks. You can see my deck list at tapped out; my name on there is Penores.

    • @penor4904
      @penor4904 Před 8 lety +1

      XToverdrive check out my deck on tapped out. My account name is Penores. It should show you that making a commander deck based around Myrs is very possible and it works fantastic in practice.

  • @blitzwing85
    @blitzwing85 Před 9 lety

    The music is so sinister...really loved this video. It was very informative on where to start with a sliver edh.

  • @brentonoliver5169
    @brentonoliver5169 Před 9 lety

    I'd like to say thank you for this video. Because of this, I've been able to play EDH finally because I've always had trouble building 100 card decks. Thanks to your core list, I was able to create my first EDH that actually works and synergizes.

  • @8RavenJoker8
    @8RavenJoker8 Před 8 lety +5

    I must have some sort of dyslexia or what, I swear that until I heard Professor said 'Sliver' I read 'Silver' on cards before, even in the video title

  • @ProtagonistOfficial
    @ProtagonistOfficial Před 10 lety +30

    I feel like the music in this video was slightly to sinister.

    • @AndyThomson03
      @AndyThomson03 Před 7 lety +10

      Protagonist That's cause Slivers are evil and satanic and wrong... That's why I'm working on acquiring 58 Relentless Rats for my Commander Deck. Nothing like 58 57/57 Rats just a chillin.

    • @legoyoda9026
      @legoyoda9026 Před 7 lety

      Andrew Thomson just wait till someone cast counterbore

    • @joeleopard6729
      @joeleopard6729 Před 6 lety

      Protagonist it's for slivers...did you expect anything else? Haha

    • @sierrasanders1048
      @sierrasanders1048 Před 3 lety

      you mean "too" sinister not "to".

  • @NachobrotherReborn
    @NachobrotherReborn Před 9 lety

    Nice idea for a commander deck, i was watching this video to get an idea to build back up another sliver deck normal standard, this really helped me alot of the different types of slivers contributing in the mana factors, thank you

  • @daniellawson3893
    @daniellawson3893 Před 9 lety

    Just got back into magic and have had hours of fun playing this deck online. Thanks for a great and affordable deck. With such a huge card pool it's pretty daunting to get in to things.

  • @Nanofuture87
    @Nanofuture87 Před 8 lety +4

    Does Wild Pair actually work well with this deck? By the time you bring it out, you've probably pumped up your mass of slivers to the point where it won't be able to target much (since it checks Power/Toughness of the initial creature after it comes into play).
    P.S. We want a Sliver planeswalker. The hive demands it!

    • @therealcatdied
      @therealcatdied Před 8 lety

      +Nanofuture87 nicole bolas is great in a sliver deck

    • @christianvaneeden7460
      @christianvaneeden7460 Před 8 lety

      Karn Liberated. On flavour, and it's KARN LIBERATED!!

    • @jeffrains495
      @jeffrains495 Před 7 lety

      A little late of a reply, but it does very well with the right setup. You need a haste granting sliver, a sliver that lets you tap a sliver for mana and dormant sliver. It is best to start this without any power/toughness boosting slivers as it messes with things a bit. So you cast a sliver with all the previously mentioned slivers and wild pair on the field. You search for another sliver and put it into play. you draw 2 from the dormant, tap the two slivers for mana and repeat as long as you have the mana to play the next one you draw. It isn't infinite but it can sometimes seem that way.

    • @supersaiyan5cleo
      @supersaiyan5cleo Před 6 lety

      Nanofuture87 One, I thought it would work well until one sliver messed that up: steelform sliver. That +0/+1 is all you need to make a mistake.
      Two, YES! Minds thinking alike. We need a Sliver Planeswalker...*cough*SliverDeity*cough*

  • @candle1987
    @candle1987 Před 8 lety +5

    wow im so glad i collected slivers when i did i have all of these guys

  • @Sorschy
    @Sorschy Před 10 lety +1

    great video! Love the idea, slivers were made for commander! Beautiful box as well!

  • @cuzinevil1
    @cuzinevil1 Před 9 lety

    l built my sliver deck back in the days of stronghold. It rocked back then. Now with the new slivers out I'm sure I could build one that's damn near unbeatable. Thanks for the run through, I may just head down to the card shop tomorrow.

  • @McSuilenroc
    @McSuilenroc Před 9 lety +3

    Hey Tol, where would I buy this stuff? It would cost me loads to get all cards shipped separately, because I live in Denmark. The shipping costs for one magic card only, and I four-star you not, is 3 dollars. That would be really expensive, Is there anyway I can order the entire thing.

    • @ClosedOpenness
      @ClosedOpenness Před 9 lety

      I don't know of any one place to buy a completed set. I would look at getting one bulk purchase go to starcity games or another reputable MTG site that allows you to buy singles. Perhaps look at EU countries that have companies that sell mtg singles?

    • @bsteven93
      @bsteven93 Před 9 lety +2

      Try tcgplayer.com if you are going to by in bulk. They are truly a god sent when it comes to buying multiples since they have a special offer for magic the gather with certain partners that you can get off with no shipping costs. I just purchased this EDH deck with Queen and Legion plus a few others for a beautiful $230. with only $.10 of shipping costs!

    • @kurtilein3
      @kurtilein3 Před 6 lety

      cardmarket.com is strong in the EU, shipping prices are low, and you will find vendors who have several different slivers and useful cards so you can bundle. Or buy the sliver deck from the premium deck series, its an all-foil preconstructed deck with plenty of useful slivers.

  • @smashtastic_gorrila3724
    @smashtastic_gorrila3724 Před 8 lety +5

    GO SLIVERS!!! YEAH!!!

  • @Sawfty
    @Sawfty Před 3 lety +2

    I would love to see an update to this! Now that it's been 7 years and so many new cards have come in, I can only imagine how it has changed!

  • @jhoku1
    @jhoku1 Před 7 lety

    I have start to make sliver edh and this video is good advices to what cards put in deck. Thanks prof making this kind a videos.

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi Před 8 lety +10

    Is the Overlord better than the Queen?

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 8 lety +12

      +johnnyscifi Yes, by far, unless you are trying for a combo win.

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi Před 8 lety

      +Tolarian Community College
      Pretty sure i have a Queen in my rares binder...

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 8 lety +12

      +johnnyscifi The Queen is worth quite a lot of money at the moment too.

    • @Winterhe4rt
      @Winterhe4rt Před 8 lety +1

      +johnnyscifi just watch the VERY first 2 minutes of the video. he answers this exact question there... >__>'

    • @christophercombs7561
      @christophercombs7561 Před 8 lety

      I would argue that all 4 of the legendary slivers have almost equal standing sliver queen can easily go infinite hivelord makes all slivers durable legion makes them all retardedly huge overlord can tutor for any of the formerly mentioned lords

  • @player2aj
    @player2aj Před 10 lety +5

    New lands in Khans :D

  • @damionroyse5803
    @damionroyse5803 Před 8 lety

    Terrific Sliver deck! Thanks for sharing. I'm going to proxy it and slowly buy the cards if I like how it plays. Excited to use it against my EDH friends!

  • @hubcam210
    @hubcam210 Před 10 lety +1

    Bravo.☺ I was aware of the slivers but was never really interested. This Video was both compelling and informative!! Well done!!!

  • @bobbybob8909
    @bobbybob8909 Před 10 lety +5

    must be a pain in the ass to remember every single sliver ability on every single sliver

    • @arsonedaxe8466
      @arsonedaxe8466 Před 9 lety

      Ike

    • @supersaiyan5cleo
      @supersaiyan5cleo Před 6 lety +1

      bobby bob unlike most players, I can remember each ability for each sliver off the bat.

    • @jorgel.quiroz8862
      @jorgel.quiroz8862 Před 6 lety

      bobby bob as a Scion of the Ur-Dragon EDH player I know it isn't impossible, just a little bit annoying when you realized you forgot a decent ability for 2 seconds.

    • @justsomeguy3159
      @justsomeguy3159 Před 6 lety

      Write it down.

  • @MirokuMonge
    @MirokuMonge Před 8 lety +5

    Guys, im a Brazilian player and i crafted this deck, played several times and it's working wonders deckstats.net/decks/61977/455973-commander-sliver-overlord of course, the base idea came from this Tolarian Community College video, using their thoughts on this particular commander i went and changed some cards for more synergy and tempo gain, i would like to have your comments on it and last but not least i want to thank the Tolarian Community College for this great video on this awesome tribal that is Slivers.

  • @mtganimemiikefan
    @mtganimemiikefan Před 10 lety

    Love the video,the presentation was excellent;i hope to see more of these!

  • @chadcrowley7627
    @chadcrowley7627 Před 6 lety

    I just watched the video and I really loved it I've been thinking about making a Sliver commander deck but I don't have a lot of those slivers but I can try and collect them. Thanks for the video I'll probably be watching it a bunch more times😀

  • @semitangent
    @semitangent Před 10 lety +78

    Why would anyone play Slivers? They suc... ALL HAIL THE SLIVER OVERLORD!

  • @Butterworthy
    @Butterworthy Před 8 lety +7

    Why do people not play Living Death? It's literally a trump card with slivers. If the game runs long and/or people have been loading your graveyard with your hard played slivers, Living Death will end the game in an instant.

    • @Narutorocksbeleiveit
      @Narutorocksbeleiveit Před 8 lety

      because of things that prevent graveyard return, exile graveyards and other things.

    • @Narutorocksbeleiveit
      @Narutorocksbeleiveit Před 8 lety

      and there's a sliver in there that puts them on top of the library instead of grave

    • @Butterworthy
      @Butterworthy Před 8 lety +1

      WildMan There are things that prevent and/or counter literally everything in magic. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use that strategy just because *something* counters it. That's like saying you shouldn't play Tarmogoyf because it dies to removal.

    • @Narutorocksbeleiveit
      @Narutorocksbeleiveit Před 8 lety

      It's not like saying that at all. You're looking at things through a narrow perspective, not the grand scheme. While living death is, indeed, a good card, it's not a staple and takes up a spot in the deck where there at least 3-4 other cards that do the same thing but better and faster.

    • @Butterworthy
      @Butterworthy Před 8 lety

      WildMan There are exactly two cards in Magic that do what Living Death does, and the other is the star of a tier 1 deck in Modern that doesn't work as well in Commander. Slivers get tons of hate in Commander, and most of everything you toss out will be nuked from orbit ASAP. Living Death is basically a "you win" card if your slivers have haste.

  • @ethican2
    @ethican2 Před 9 lety

    so, I have a sliver edh deck and I have a budget solution for dual lands. you can use the spell into the north from coldsnap along with the snow duals to fix your mana, Into the north also can fetch snow basic lands and scrying sheets and mouth of ronum. for basic card advantage and tool box effect for land-based creature removal. the whole snow package would be an easy include and give some variety. I also tend to prioritize green mana in order to make sure I can have access to manaweft or gemhide. I love your videos.

  • @Studog619
    @Studog619 Před 5 měsíci +30

    Me watching this video in 2024 after paying $265 for a sliver queen 🫡

    • @internetperson8224
      @internetperson8224 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Proxies brother… mines holo and cost me under a dollar…

    • @hyperz_vv990
      @hyperz_vv990 Před 25 dny

      Against his better advice I’m still using hivelord as my commander in 2024. Ways and means.

  • @ninjanick7369
    @ninjanick7369 Před 8 lety +1

    Great Video! I can't wait to try out this type of deck!

  • @cry0fth3carr0ts
    @cry0fth3carr0ts Před 7 lety

    [primal surge] is game over with slivers. I just built "this" deck today. great video!!

  • @averagejoebro5206
    @averagejoebro5206 Před 7 lety +4

    I would love to see a video where you go over the top cards or just your favorites in your collection. I havnt been here long so sorry if you already have and I've missed it (you don't have to include a foiled stormcrow)

  • @ralph-im-a-star-wars-wiggum

    I have been playing Magic for only a month or two. My wife got a Jace deck and I got Ajani. Just played my first prerelease yesterday too (4 wins out of 12 games) which was interesting. But a couple weeks in, I was watching youtube videos on how to build decks and I fell in love with the idea of a sliver deck. I bought it. And my wife refuses to play against it. I added Harmonic to counter artifacts that were played against me with success. I'm told however that if I started going to Friday Night Magic at the game store with it, it would likely not fare well due to there being a lot of counter stuff against it. I will probably try at least once. I also recently heard about the commander format and watched a video of you playing it. That looks like a very fun and entertaining format. I saw Slivers and Commander together in this video and now that's what I want to do. Thank you for your channel and your content. I have been watching a lot of your stuff as I learn to play this game and you have been extremely helpful. Especially when describing formats, gameplay, and synergies among cards and colors and guilds. I hope you keep it up and you can be sure I'll be watching.

  • @Kavou
    @Kavou Před 9 lety

    I've just made an awesome sliver deck(not commander I must say),but it is really amazingly fun to play and pretty pretty strong.I love slivers and their mysterious lore and evolution in Magic.This video deserves so many more views and thanks for your dedication and time that you've invested in order to made this.Make one video for Non-commander sliver dekcs please :).

  • @Phantomlight26
    @Phantomlight26 Před 9 lety

    Your examinations always fascinate me.

  • @obeycelestia
    @obeycelestia Před 10 lety

    My friend runs Overlord and it's terrifying when the next turn is a lot of times a Crystalline and I have to pray to race or wait for a wrath. It's an awesome deck and I love the challenge. Thanks for posting the rationale-- sometimes it's hard to keep everything in mind when there's 99 cards you have to fit together!

  • @OrochiDoesMincraft
    @OrochiDoesMincraft Před 4 lety

    Going back to watching this video after building my Sliver Commander deck and I have to say I fully agree with the Prof.'s choice for Overlord as a Commander. He is a must have in all Sliver decks. I'm still building it too.

  • @ClearSkiesAndSqualls
    @ClearSkiesAndSqualls Před 10 lety

    Super cool deck. I'll have to re-look at this when I jump into Commander.

  • @steftuuk2729
    @steftuuk2729 Před rokem +1

    I hope the professor does a upgrade video on the new sliver pre con would love to see that. after ordering it I ran over to rewatch this video

  • @lordrot20
    @lordrot20 Před 7 lety

    This is a awesome video, because i was wondering on how i was going to make my sliver commander deck

  • @theevileyeduelist8144
    @theevileyeduelist8144 Před 8 lety

    Absolutely loved this video, very helpful and informative professor

  • @lucasneufeld2705
    @lucasneufeld2705 Před 9 lety

    Thank you for your opinion on slivers !!! it really is helpful to get another opinion.

  • @vesleengen
    @vesleengen Před 7 lety

    I collected every sliver i could find back in the day so i had a huge pile of them. This was back in the Legions days though so nice to see more slivers have come along. Back then trying to play Slivers was a nightmare.. Mana was almost hopeless as there was so little things other then some elfs and expensive dual lands to speed it up. I recently got back into Magic and I'm trying to learn commander and maybe now it's time to find the slivers again as >I already have most of the cards here..

  • @GoatOfTheMountains
    @GoatOfTheMountains Před 10 lety +2

    Gotta love Necrotic Sliver. I have them in a 5 color sliver deck as well as my main Orzhov deck. Lots of good interweaving synergy w/ Deathbringer Liege, and Cauldron Haze.

  • @nickwayfinder8548
    @nickwayfinder8548 Před 5 lety

    i dont you'll ever see this professer, but i started playing MTG around 10. My dad introduced me and brother to the wonderful world of MTG. The day I say my first sliver i've always wanted to play them. Today i orded all the cards for the deck aside for the lands as i already have them or better ones, but thank you for making this amazing list.
    I'm 19 now and this 9 years of MTG have been the best. I hope one day to play against you.

  • @redsilvergriffin153
    @redsilvergriffin153 Před 4 lety

    I like this style of video. I wish you could this style more often.

  • @Ecoi1
    @Ecoi1 Před 10 lety +1

    I love your guides. I was very happy to see a commander video =)! I'd like to see more EDH decks =D!
    I anticipate you will review the new commander sets that will be coming out soon too?

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 10 lety

      Ecoi1 Oh, absolutely. Super excited that Teferi is returning, but not so sure about the whole "Planeswalker as Commander" idea. Still...Teferi...he's probably my favorite planeswalker flavor wise.

  • @shadikal12345
    @shadikal12345 Před 9 lety

    Well now, time to do some searching. I have the bulk of the Slivers listed here, just a few needed but for me it's always been the lands that were troubling. Thanks so much for these cheaper alternatives which I'm still going to have a rough time finding.

  • @Chrysaries
    @Chrysaries Před 5 lety +1

    Coming back in preparation for The First Sliver you immediately notice how far TCC has come in quality!

  • @theartificer3053
    @theartificer3053 Před 9 lety

    I love that music. It suits slivers so well and I would love for WOTC to make a block based on Shandalar.

  • @jacfac9969
    @jacfac9969 Před 4 lety

    Got my sliver overlord from secret lair and I'm finally ready to start building slivers. I only have half of the 6 WUBRG sliver commanders (if you count morophon as a sliver) but from just throwing all my rare lands and slivers I have lying around in my collection into a pile, I gotta say I see some potential with this deck.

  • @DaBabblingBrooke
    @DaBabblingBrooke Před 10 lety

    Thanks for posting this TCC! I've always had a fondness for Slivers (aka the Borg) but more so for how my friends would always react to playing against them (fear, everyone ganging up on me, complaining, etc.). This will be excellent primer for my own EDH Sliver deck and can add it to growing pile of my other two Sliver decks >:D

  • @burnout278
    @burnout278 Před 6 lety

    Using your Ducklist as a starting point, but also picked up the other Lord's and Paradox engine. Should be getting it Dec 1st. Super excited to play it and make some modifications.

  • @Typhosion
    @Typhosion Před 8 lety

    I can't wait to be able to build this for EDH. I found a card shop that actually selling Overlord Sliver. I have Hivelord Sliver, so the most expensive cards are out of the way.

  • @scuffed_Raider
    @scuffed_Raider Před 7 lety

    probably my favorite edh deck of all time. Currently in the process of foiling the deck out (around 60/99 cards in foil no queen foil :( atm.)

  • @prplprince8730
    @prplprince8730 Před 7 lety

    I play this deck often (one of my favs) and I have to say quick sliver is one of my focal points when playing. The ability to tutor then cast a sliver in response to something is extremely useful. There have been times when flashing in a shroud sliver or flying sliver has blow out opponents. Of course the 8 mana nut counter of tutor then play indestructible in response to a wrath has happened but usually my opponents know about it not to run into it.
    Seeing as this video was made in 2014 another support enchantment I've added to the deck which has helped A LOT is cryptolith rite. Acts as a third mana sliver though not as good it is still extremely useful.
    As a 5c deck bring to light is absurdly good value to get 95% of the sliver in your deck and possibly an instant you need. I've tutored for indestructible sliver many times with it.

  • @salmonking007
    @salmonking007 Před 10 lety

    Great video! I love being able to reuse my slivers from the graveyard, so I've got plenty of recursion a la living death, return to ranks, patriarch's bidding, and phyrexian reclamation. I also threw in a copy of Descendant's Path, which has been an all-star.
    Unfortunately, Sliver queen's price isn't going anywhere- it's on the reserve list and tons of 5 color control run her as a commander. It's a decent investment to grab since it's price has jumped $10-15 every time new slivers are released in a set.

  • @Shoobadon52
    @Shoobadon52 Před 9 lety

    Your videos are excellent, great work Professor!