Confused By Pronation Of A Tennis Serve? Your Questions Answered...

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • www.feeltennis.net/serve-pron...
    I receive a lot of questions on different aspects of tennis but one topic keeps repeating itself - the serve pronation.
    I've covered quite a lot of ideas related to pronation but I guess still not clear enough.
    So in this video I am answering the most common questions about the pronation on the serve.
    I will cover the differences in pronation between flat and spin types of serves, how you may misunderstand pronation and I will also demonstrate serves with no pronation and hopefully that will trigger some aha moments for you.
    And if you still have some questions on pronation that I didn't cover, then just ask them in the comments section and share my views.
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  • @trumptbygravity605
    @trumptbygravity605 Před 4 lety +83

    Having practiced more than 100000 serves on my own, I m pretty sure this is the best vid of tennis serves for intermediate level rec players as well as complete beginners. Highly informative..!!!

  • @moinuddinmohammed6953
    @moinuddinmohammed6953 Před 4 lety +16

    This and some others are the best coaching/explanation I've heard

  • @leandronicolas8848
    @leandronicolas8848 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You share invaluable info on the serve on this video, years of tennis lessons and never even heard of this concept. Every question and answer are so well detailed and demonstrated. Thank you!

    • @feeltennis
      @feeltennis  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for the time you took to write this feedback, much appreciated!

  • @marcelocoip7275
    @marcelocoip7275 Před rokem +2

    When you think Tomaz peaked his pedagogical level, PUM! this lesson appears. SO EASY to understand, thanks!

  • @johnwright2460
    @johnwright2460 Před 2 lety +4

    Tomaz, you explain this subject better than any other coach I have seen. Thanks much as you have helped improve my serving a great deal.

  • @amritpalsinghap1
    @amritpalsinghap1 Před 2 lety +6

    Hi Tomas. I have been playing and trying to learn tennis serve for the last 8 years. But for the first time in my life, after watching this video, I REALLY understood the concept of pronation. I went to the court, tried my serve keeping this video in my mind, and I am not lying that my usually opponent could not take even one of my serves!!! I am so happy and can't thank you enough.

    • @Joecuzzi
      @Joecuzzi Před rokem

      That is so Awesome!!! I hope it fixes my serve too!

  • @joepe101
    @joepe101 Před 4 lety +6

    The best tennis coach on CZcams!👍

  • @Chance-ry1hq
    @Chance-ry1hq Před 3 lety +11

    I’m 63, I play 4.0-4.5 league tennis. I have been playing tennis for 23 years. I have a good powerful serve, flat, slice, and kick, with a Continental grip. I developed my serve years ago watching Pete Sampras serve in slow motion, and going to the courts with a basket of balls and trying to copy it. After thousands of balls I developed a very good serve 20 some years ago. It is a big part of my game. Recently I started working on maximizing my pronation, and I developed tennis elbow for the first time. Obviously, I am doing something wrong, or I have exposed a weakness in my arm. I am currently taking time off, icing, stretching, and strengthening my injury. I am not very happy about all this, and my advice to y’all is be careful with this concept. It might maximize your serve, but it might put you on the sidelines with an injury. It seems to put a great deal of stress on the elbow.

    • @christiancenturion9895
      @christiancenturion9895 Před 3 lety

      Exactly my point. I did a little research before going out and practice because this is such an awkward movement even without holding the racquet. Hope you have a fast recovery.

    • @miracledoh4020
      @miracledoh4020 Před 3 lety

      Thanks Chance. How often do you play?

    • @Chance-ry1hq
      @Chance-ry1hq Před 3 lety

      @@miracledoh4020 At this age, I Usually play a match twice a week, and hit with my wife once or twice a week. When I was younger I played almost everyday.

    • @lokzim
      @lokzim Před rokem +1

      wish i saw this comment before trying to pronate, i hurt my shoulders bad and i had been serving for 20 years without major problems

    • @coolpix222
      @coolpix222 Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah, you have to be careful to get the motion just right. Take things slow until you really can feel it.

  • @rajeshsiraskar6955
    @rajeshsiraskar6955 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow!! I recorded my serves and had this exact question on my mind - am I pronating? It is funny how Thomaz could think of us having a question like this after playing tennis for 10 years AND answer it so clearly and accurately!

  • @tarunj4333
    @tarunj4333 Před 4 lety +7

    Sir, can you please make a video explaining & showcasing the fundamentals of how to aim the serves in tennis, like what should be the mental as well as the physical process while aiming🙏

  • @ltrotter636
    @ltrotter636 Před 4 lety +2

    Wow, your videos are so easy to understand! Your evaluations and explanations are so clear. Thank you.

  • @jessicazhao2180
    @jessicazhao2180 Před 3 lety

    After following the guideline of the coach Tomaz, my serve has worked!
    You can not image how happy I am. I appreciate really your great support!
    You are the best coach at the CZcams. Thank you for brightening my tennis world.

  • @obaidfarghani9202
    @obaidfarghani9202 Před 4 lety +1

    Best video and lesson on pronation. Thank you coach Thomas, you are the best coach who explains very well all the subtleties

  • @davidrussell68
    @davidrussell68 Před 4 lety +8

    Well done Tomaz, excellent explanation as usual, cheers

  • @reneabe
    @reneabe Před měsícem

    FINALLY the best explanation about pronation on the whole internet. THANK YOU, Tomas!!!

  • @bpn777
    @bpn777 Před 2 lety

    Excellent teaching. Very clear. It answers precisely the questions I had having seen another of Thomas' videos on pronation last week.

  • @huntsail3727
    @huntsail3727 Před 9 měsíci

    This is by far the best explanation and demonstration of what is meant by 'serve' pronation that I have ever heard. Thanks!
    Wish I had seen this 3 years ago when it came out. Great job!

  • @LeslieTaylor
    @LeslieTaylor Před 2 lety +1

    Your explanation of the serve is the best I have found on CZcams. Before your videos I really did not understand what part pronation played in the serve. I always felt like there was an element missing in the explanation. Thinking of the serve as a two-axis motion has really made a difference for me. I still need to work on actualizing it! :) But this has certainly pointed me in the right direction. Thank you!

  • @elisabethkruger8882
    @elisabethkruger8882 Před 4 lety +6

    Yes!!! This is fantastic! I've been playing tennis for 20 years and NEVER ever any coach said a word about pronation . I always felt something was missing. Thanks for sharing this awesome master class!!!

    • @reneabe
      @reneabe Před měsícem

      99% of the coaches don’t know about that and some say it’s a gimmick…

    • @ER_aka_RAM
      @ER_aka_RAM Před měsícem

      Sorry to say, but you both have had horrible coaches if they never mentioned it after the 1st few sessions.

    • @reneabe
      @reneabe Před měsícem +1

      @@ER_aka_RAMwell, not everybody has access to coaches like Tomas. At least in my country. You must consider yourself lucky.

  • @CJZM7777
    @CJZM7777 Před rokem

    This is one of the best explanations of using pronation while serving. Good job again!

  • @gertennis3229
    @gertennis3229 Před 4 lety +2

    Sooo that´s what happened t me whenever I tried to hit a kick serve hahaha I didn´t know I had to add a bit of pronation!! Thank Thomaz always great hearing from you!!!

  • @tenisovyklub1661
    @tenisovyklub1661 Před 4 lety +11

    as usually - great explanation for tennis nation :-) Tomaz is soooo great instructor....

  • @CL83biker
    @CL83biker Před 3 lety

    I love the way you show it for the viewer to observe from the back. I am able to see clearly the swing path of the hand and the wrist.

  • @nathandavis2990
    @nathandavis2990 Před 3 lety +1

    idk why i was so confused if i was pronating or not but this is very clear!! thank you! I AM pronating but I need to focus on maximizing the pronation especially on slice serves.

  • @Chow2323
    @Chow2323 Před 4 lety +4

    Thank you for sharing your wisdom, Tomaz!

  • @eloakingking9273
    @eloakingking9273 Před 3 lety

    I had watched many videos on pronation before stumbling on this and I must confess, you broke it down the way it needs to. Now I understand the whole dynamics of pronation. And I just subscribed to your channel for this reason. A very big thanks to you.

  • @stevecieri2755
    @stevecieri2755 Před 4 lety

    Excellent explanation Tomaz. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.

  • @larryp9248
    @larryp9248 Před 2 lety +1

    This is by far the best video explaining pronation that I have ever watched. Great explanation, and demonstration. In all the years I have played tennis and coached my daughter I never really knew for sure or understood the major differences in serves or the concept of pronating. Thank you for this excellent video explanation describing in detail the pronation process.

    • @feeltennis
      @feeltennis  Před 2 lety

      Glad it was helpful, thanks for the feedback!

  • @vsomashekar3757
    @vsomashekar3757 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the detailed and systematic explanation of pronation service, I will adapt the same while in practice

  • @HiFilover168
    @HiFilover168 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome, right on the money. Best video that I have seen so far.

  • @johnp675
    @johnp675 Před 3 lety

    Great job Tomaz,very clear presentation and very useful for us recreational players. Thanks

  • @essouna
    @essouna Před 2 lety

    Probably the best video on serve and effets i have ever seen. Thank you for sharing Sir

  • @dougmassinger4649
    @dougmassinger4649 Před 4 lety +27

    Love this guy!! Such a great teacher!!!

  • @SimonFreston
    @SimonFreston Před 3 lety +1

    Some great tips, I never understood why my coach was always pushing me towards the continental grip. Now I understand

  • @martinhermann13
    @martinhermann13 Před 4 lety +1

    Very good video (as ever). I am also so glad that the Kiki Bertens serve was addressed in it. I was stunned when I first saw her serve and thought my perception was playing tricks with me. Amazing that you can play top 10 WTA tennis with a waiter's tray serve! (You have to wonder what kind of powerful serve she would have otherwise.)

  • @prashantgupta7167
    @prashantgupta7167 Před rokem

    Hey Tomas, I have learned almost everything about tennis from you only. Your lessons still reveal so many new things even on rewatching the 3rd time. Thank you so much.

    • @feeltennis
      @feeltennis  Před rokem

      You're very welcome and thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @harishreddy4034
    @harishreddy4034 Před 4 lety

    This is the like the answers to all my serve questions. Superb video. Thanks.

  • @MA-dw2yl
    @MA-dw2yl Před 4 lety

    Nice lesson. You are an excellent coach! I've learned a lot about the pronation and how to serve.

  • @krawunkel5306
    @krawunkel5306 Před 4 lety +2

    Best summarize of serve. Great. Thanks a lot.

  • @johnwright2460
    @johnwright2460 Před měsícem

    I’ve been trying to pronate completely. It finally happened during my serves today. Thanks much.

  • @jason.tennis
    @jason.tennis Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for your amazing guidance. This is what I wanted to know.

  • @peterpark3065
    @peterpark3065 Před 4 lety

    Super excellent explanation about pronation! You are the best coach!!

  • @pankajraheja1385
    @pankajraheja1385 Před 2 lety

    One of the best videos on serve and pronation. To be honest, I think I still don’t pronate most of the times, but the hinge and improved toss has improved my serve a lot. I have noticed that I seem to pronate only when I toss it higher than usual.

  • @paoloangioi
    @paoloangioi Před 2 lety

    Hi Tomaz, thanks for the videos, I think you're one of the best teachers on YT!!!

  • @SANGEETAHUJA
    @SANGEETAHUJA Před 3 lety

    Great video. It covered the questions which as amateur tennis players I had. Watched few other videos on pronation but this one answers the question those left unanswered.

  • @helmeteye
    @helmeteye Před 4 lety

    Excellent. There is a lot of good info online and you're the best.

  • @EugeneLambert
    @EugeneLambert Před rokem

    I'm so glad I found your videos, which are so clear and helpful compared to many others out there. Thanks!

  • @bharaja
    @bharaja Před 4 lety

    First video to truly explain pronation properly and the connection to gaining power in ones serve.

  • @gilleslejeune6823
    @gilleslejeune6823 Před 4 lety +1

    Very clever explanation, as usual. Thanks.

  • @sushiltiwari6631
    @sushiltiwari6631 Před 2 lety

    One of the best lesson I have found in you tube. Thanks a lot

  • @ach3322
    @ach3322 Před 3 lety

    Love this video... I have heard of the word "pronation" and was wondering if I am doing it correctly. So glad to hear that I am pronating, just not optimize my probation.

  • @dantheman1337
    @dantheman1337 Před 4 lety +17

    This answers all my questions i had but didn't ask. Thank you.

    • @Chow2323
      @Chow2323 Před 4 lety +1

      He answers even questions we don't know we have

  • @henryallan9167
    @henryallan9167 Před 2 lety

    This breakdown of 'pronation' is very helpful. Thank you

  • @olkeriilremengesau5461

    Best explanation of pronation serve! Great teaching!

  • @simonfromsg
    @simonfromsg Před 9 měsíci

    One of the best instruction and explanation videos!

  • @brooklynmister3608
    @brooklynmister3608 Před 4 lety

    This video immediately improved my serve!

  • @pragith
    @pragith Před 2 lety

    Thank you for taking time to go through the details.

  • @marianagutierrez7498
    @marianagutierrez7498 Před 2 lety

    Excellent !!! others coaching have explanation but just with you I can really understand !!

  • @albertkwok001
    @albertkwok001 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent teaching! Very clear and detailed.

  • @speedymr
    @speedymr Před 3 lety

    Wow that's an amazing explanation. Never thought this way. Thanks so much!

  • @xxsashaxx_yt2896
    @xxsashaxx_yt2896 Před 4 lety

    Great video. You are really amazing coach for teaching the serve pronation 👍👍👍

  • @chengifoo7603
    @chengifoo7603 Před 11 měsíci

    Your video was truly excellent. I was so so confused with pronation and you just cleared it up instantly and I really appreciate the simple and clear demonstrations. Thank you so so much for your teaching.

  • @rockyvalencia5762
    @rockyvalencia5762 Před 2 lety

    Great teaching video on pronation during a serve. Made me serve better!

  • @jayantchauhan
    @jayantchauhan Před rokem

    Now that’s the best way a video on tennis serve and pronation should start. Thanks for explaining this so well Tomaz.
    A quick rookie question,
    Q. “Doesn’t pronation then result in a lot of stress (and then maybe even injury) on the wrist? What is it that I might be doing wrong when trying to maximise pronation with a continental grip?”

  • @sanjeevshukla6865
    @sanjeevshukla6865 Před 2 lety

    I now can reconcile what for a long time seemed like opposite racquet movements: the left to right brush of the racquet to achieve spin (kick/slice) and having the ball-hitting racquet face end up facing to my right (as a right hander)! Upto this point, I’ve been ending up with the ball-hitting racquet facing down with my my wrist on top. I’m looking forward to developing new muscle memory and hitting the serve with more power with proper serve pronation.
    I appreciate the careful explanation. Quite the find for me.

  • @peteb7720
    @peteb7720 Před 3 lety

    This is a fantastic informative video describing pronation of a Tennis Serve.

  • @mauriciopeterlevitz8902

    One of the best coaches on the web for sure.

  • @harihegde6364
    @harihegde6364 Před 4 lety

    Excellent explanations, Coach!

  • @suvrojitroy1093
    @suvrojitroy1093 Před 4 lety

    Thank you very much for the video! It cleared a lot of doubts!! 🙏

  • @michaelshadler292
    @michaelshadler292 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video. You made it so easy to understand.

  • @tuanbui-ih7tb
    @tuanbui-ih7tb Před rokem

    Great video, very useful for me. Tks Thomas!

  • @Factory400
    @Factory400 Před 3 lety

    I feel like I FINALLY get this......great explanation of the concepts. Now.....time to go practice with a video camera.

  • @NWGJulian
    @NWGJulian Před 2 lety +1

    what a great video, glad i found this treasure!

  • @antoniomarine1567
    @antoniomarine1567 Před rokem

    Great explanation as always!

  • @preciousdevere288
    @preciousdevere288 Před 4 lety +1

    What a great teacher.

  • @markgani6303
    @markgani6303 Před rokem

    after watching tomaz videos and learnt how to pronate, my serve is improved 100%! thank you tomaz, best teaching videos on the net!!!

  • @melfox215
    @melfox215 Před 4 lety +1

    Impressive how he can vary between the different stroke techniques. Even showing the wrong/ineffective ones.
    I am an advanced player playing 30 years, but especially changing the serve takes so much time. My pronation is good, but I tend to not swing the racket, kind of interrupt the motion and lose a lot of speed. So the last few weeks I mostly focused only on the swing to get some power back. I just have made some progress. Now I start to try more adjustments to improve precision. If this works, I'll start focusing on spin.

  • @florinsi
    @florinsi Před 4 lety +9

    To me a tennis serve = racquet throw motion + intentional/voluntary/positive/active pronation at the end ....

  • @deschutesmaple4520
    @deschutesmaple4520 Před 3 lety

    Great tutorial on pronation. Kudos!

  • @aurelio6646
    @aurelio6646 Před 4 lety

    Thank you once again. You are a great teacher!

  • @stratuspei9405
    @stratuspei9405 Před měsícem

    I achieved both understanding and muscle memory of pronation in tennis just a couple of weeks ago. I’ve known about the definition for more than a decade, but only got the feeling this month. And it feels wonderful.
    I would describe the result of pronation as force that drives the ball forward into the service box. In nerdy terms, it’s the component of the hitting force perpendicular to the racket face and pointing towards the service box. As all serves needs to go to the service box, then any serve (using Continental grip as Tomaz said) must have this result that was caused by pronation.
    I further consider pronation to result in a a position of strength and stability for the arm as the racket hits the ball.
    In simpler terms, pronation gives you the “slapping” action on the ball. The spin and kick comes from the grazing action. The proportion between the slapping and grazing actions determines the type of serve (flat, kick, slice)

    • @feeltennis
      @feeltennis  Před měsícem

      Thanks for sharing your feedback!

  • @markmuller3086
    @markmuller3086 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent, excellent explanations! I realize now that I do pronate, but I don’t maximize my serve with that follow-through move, twisting my arm further to the outside. Thank you! I subscribed.
    Question: did pros from yesterday-year maximize their serves with the “full” pronation? I’m thinking of Arthur Ashe, Stan Smith, Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe. Or is “full” pronation a “modern” technique, like the “modern” forehand?

  • @asbestomolesto
    @asbestomolesto Před 3 lety +1

    This is an amazing video. I believed that pronation must just occur naturally, without any conscious movement. But you say that we must actively DO the pronation, pushing with our finger / hand, thus adding power / spin / byte to the ball, and not just let the pronation happening by the natural momentum of the racket head? That's great :)

  • @billthestinker
    @billthestinker Před rokem

    Excellent instructions I appreciate this very much

  • @damianobattaglion1810
    @damianobattaglion1810 Před 4 lety

    Congratulations, you are a good coach!

  • @metehankara1954
    @metehankara1954 Před 3 lety

    hi tomaz thank u for these helpful videos. in this video you said doctors can explain. im a doctor and started to learn tennis 6 months ago.. we call movement in joints. so pronation is in wrist. and pronation in shoulder.. pronation in wrist makes pronation and pronation in sholder makes it maximize.

  • @sunnyyoo6219
    @sunnyyoo6219 Před 2 lety

    Best coaching ever~ thank you sir.

  • @lirenchan
    @lirenchan Před 9 měsíci

    Great instructions. Many thanks.

  • @AtroXAir
    @AtroXAir Před 4 lety

    As usual fantastic explanation.

  • @user-sd8mu7ll1m
    @user-sd8mu7ll1m Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic instructions - Thomaz made me understand with his breakdowns - after many years of improvising - the fundamentals of the forehand, backhand, service, timing and the split step. Thank you very much !

  • @elizabethsimpson9373
    @elizabethsimpson9373 Před rokem

    Thank you! Very helpful, even at my advanced age. I think I can add some power to my serve.

  • @meditationman415
    @meditationman415 Před 2 lety

    Yup Superb 👌 now to find the pronation drills 👍

  • @lachummers
    @lachummers Před rokem

    The demonstrations of poor technique are delightful. Besides informing and illustration, they add a touch of endearing comic absurdity. They make me chuckle. Also, a good reminder of what I probably look like half the time in my tennis technique. Tomaz, you're great!

    • @feeltennis
      @feeltennis  Před rokem

      Wonderful, thanks for the feedback!

  • @mdougf
    @mdougf Před 4 lety

    Thanks again for all you do!

  • @princelawrencetennis2057

    You are so good.
    Thx
    Prince

  • @huynhanhtin90
    @huynhanhtin90 Před 2 lety

    very easy lesson. i learned alot from your video. thank you

  • @benjaminqiao7660
    @benjaminqiao7660 Před 4 lety

    Great video ! Thank you very much 😀 could u explain What’s the difference between pin point serve and platform serve?

  • @michaelchang-zi6lp
    @michaelchang-zi6lp Před 4 lety

    Great video explaining pronation

  • @MisteMiner
    @MisteMiner Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video, thanks!

  • @vladimirvidov6202
    @vladimirvidov6202 Před 4 lety +1

    thank you very much is very usable very logical very understandable and excellent excellent explanation thank you for your lesson