Graded These Cards 3 Times With 3 Different Graders! Was This Test a Huge Mistake?!? BGS - PSA - SGC
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2024
- We graded these cards with three different graders to see who grades the toughest! Well, I guess you’ll just have to watch it to see how they turned out!
- Sport
People say that SGC grades are easier to get, but in my expirence they are the HARDEST graders of the tops 3. I'd love to see what these would do with an AI grader like TAG or AGS.
Lol- I think we are done with these cards.
Have you used TAG or AGS before, if so what are your thoughts?
To me there still needs to be a human side to grading, but they also need to use AI and technology to help them grade the cards. I do not feel like there is any “ perfect way”- but someone needs to come up with a system of grading that is consistent. I think everyone would be happy if we just had consistent grading with each submission: not 1 sub is good (9 and 10s) and then the next we get crushed (9s and lower)
@@nothingbutcardboardI've had some really good luck with both, as far as the grades, they are what were to be expected I think removing the human element with AI since it uses machines/technology would give a more consistant grade over and over and over instead of having 50 different people looking at my cards every time I submit them. I would love to test my theory though and resub a card with both Tag and AGS since they both use AI and see how close their grading models are to each other... or even grading with one company twice to see what it gets again the second time. It would be fun and interesting to see this done with Tag and AGS both and then compare them as well.
I appreciate you taking little profit hits here and there to give us more data and more experiences of crossovers. Thank you.
Glad you’re finding it useful! Thanks for the comment.
Should have left them in the BGS slabs 😂 but I understand why you did it as an experiment and for the video 🤙🏼
lol for real! Were definitely hoping for better results, but you win some you lose some.
Great video and thanks for doing this.
Very interesting and appreciate you sharing!
Making me wonder about how the slabs may be effecting the cards with time....especially the Kobe. Possible it was way less greening when it went to BGS and they mostly hit it for other flaws but with time...that amplified? Of course that isn't same for the other but just has me thinking 🤔🤣
Do agree seeing them go through something like Tag where you can pull up the images to see everything in super detail would be cool (but also understand tapping out on these)
Quite the roller coaster! I went to check on your Ebay store to see how much you were pricing each of these SGC slabs for with current grades to my surprise were cracked out and listed as raw. Curious what your thought process or strategy is? Let others submit to their preferred grader and spin wheel on grade.
it’s cause Raw is worth more than basically 8 and lower
Yeah Tyler is right. They sell for more raw than in those slabs, so we cracked them.
Now send it back to BGS! Complete the loop 😅 I think BGS is grading easier right now than years ago.
SGC has always been the hardest grader.
Yikes guys! Its a good discovery and learning process. Can you have bgs reslab them in original grades?
No- they would have to go thru the whole process and be graded again.
Yep- we will hopefully not be doing that again.
Sorry guys, that was painful
SGC bought out by PSA, whoa! So do you know if we can still submit to SGC (got a convention coming up)?
Yes SGC is still taking in cards. No changes have been announced, so not sure how this will affect things- if at all.
Now send them back to PSA and watch the grades be different!
I wouldn’t doubt it! But I think we’re bleeding enough after this experiment lol
Lol oh man. Ultra modern is a bit different, but if your grading stuff a bit older (90s), then SGC has the lowest gem rate, basically always. Your better off cracking those and resending to PSA. Youll get different grades for sure, ha hopefully this time going up.
Should submit them to SCC in Italy or PGS in Germany. Sure they'd give you a 10
Yeah we’re just going to crack, sell, and move on. Learning the hard way is tough, but it is what it is.
They grade easier on cheap modern
Yeah that’s what we’ve seen too.
TAG🎉
Just used SGC once before. Got high grades on cards which had issues and low grades on flawless cards. Plus they didnt grade half of my cards when they should have. Weird company.
Yeah seems a bit hit and miss.
If I was you guys, I would probably take your cleaning videos off because of PSA season now they’re going to be decertified cards for cleaning and waxing
Going forward we probably won’t post specifics as far as cert numbers goes. But PSA would have to spend a lot of time going through CZcams videos to figure out what cards may have been cleaned. And even then, I don’t think they would have definitive evidence. I think they just made an example out of Kurt.
@@nothingbutcardboard "I think they just made an example out of Kurt". Yeah, they were just pandering to the anti clean crowd doing that, they wouldn't have heard the end of it otherwise from the X x twitter and the rest of the mobs.
Why resend the Kobe? The hulking isn't going to be overlooked at all and the back centering is horrible.
Because we were sending the Brees anyway. It was $20 to see what would happen
@@nothingbutcardboard gotcha. Yeah, the Brees looks good on camera. I guess the scratches are harsher than it looks.
Every 2001 Brees Chrome card I’ve had has scratches in almost the exact same places, so I think they are manufactured defects. All are fairly large and all over the front. Pop 3 PSA 10, so a tough grade for sure
Has your strategy changed with all of this card cleaning news lately?
PSA talking about smelling for car wax and checking for residue
Not necessarily. Based off this test, we are probably going to stick to more modern cards. But as far as cleaning goes, everything I’ve seen that has come out has been about soaking cards which can cause delamination. So I understand where some concern could come from there long term. But I don’t believe normal cleaning would cause any long term damage. Either way it doesn’t sound like grading companies can tell. So we will probably still clean up cards unless something changes.
@@nothingbutcardboard Well yeah, that Kobe was better than it was, but still got lower. They probably take into consideration the greening of the card too much.
@@ericsorensen8242 Sniff mine for some McGuires, get your nose on the end of it. How much more time will they add on for sniffing? Extra 10 seconds? Lol. Polish and McGuires may leave a coat on top, it's quite easy to tell by putting your finger on it but maybe not if dried and has had air to it.
And what about the long term affects caused by card cleaning? Like 10 years your cards are all cloudy?
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