Ontario to do away with sick note requirement for short absences
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2024
- Ontario will do away with sick note requirements for short absences as part of a larger effort to ease the administrative burden on doctors, the province’s health minister said Wednesday.
The province will soon introduce legislation that, if passed, will no longer allow employers to require a sick note from a doctor for the provincially protected three days of sick leave workers are entitled to.
What if you don't need medicine and just need bed rest? lol
so theyre looking to get rid of needing a "sick note", but are requiring you to still provide proof you were sick... this doesn't really solve anything since you still need a receipt or an attestation from someone. If people are afforded 3 days as is mandatory why do you need an excuse why someone is sick?
It monetizes the destruction of charter rights.
They don't. That's why they can't ask for one anymore. Workers right to privacy, and at the same time eases doctors, and removes toxic workplace practices regarding notes.
A lot of businesses bully employees by telling them "if they take a sick day, they can't return to work without a note." So there goes that bully tactic.
This policy is meant to help doctors, not workers (unless they don'thave a GP). Take note, however, that Ford plans to let doctors RECORD your private appointments using AI, making your private health information much more accessible by the government through the cloud.
@@kyloren3693 YES! PHIA, or Personal Health and Information Act.
@@rettbutler1312 That too. I didn't realize, until recently, not everyone has a GP! Obviously, I do, but not everyone does.
There should be at least 10 sick days a year.
They used to be a around that amount.
I remember that until Premier Ford changed the law. I don't remember him mentioning his plan to do this in his election campaign.
@@pinochetrevivalist7374LOL thank you.
Considering how long the standard flu is for, 3 days is laughable. Not having to get a note from teh doctor is great but we need more days. Getting sick is not something we can plan.
Only 3 sick days to cover 365 days in the year is a joke, and quite offensive to Ontario workers. It was his decision to eliminate the previous 7 sick days to only 3, while the other parties wanted to increase the sick days to 10.
His policies allow corporations to take advantage of workers, and he has allowed the corporations to get away with it.
Ford has always been for the corporates, and not for the blue collar worker. This policy is for the doctors. The workers who have to slog it out in factories etc., were once again, not a consideration for him. His track record shows he doesn't give a damn about Ontario workers.
What are you talking about?
Every organization switch to Insurance based sick coverage.
The three days, is the waiting period before Insurance kicks in .
Nobody has to accumulate “sick days”
This has nothing to do with Doug Ford, and was policy long before he got into power, which means it was under liberal leader ship .
He is actually improved the situation for almost every worker, by removing the requirement to have a doctors note .
If you’re gonna be angry about something, at least read first .
This is for workers rights/privacy too. Employers are often bullies to employees telling them they can't return to work without a note. So that bully tactic is now gone for good.
@@kyloren3693
What you call bullying, I call accountability .
You can’t just have people, deciding that they can be off sick, without any representation at all, but still get paid ?
You seriously don’t see any issue with people ripping off the system ?
The other argument, is that if you say you’re sick, and you need to be off work, how do I know you’re well enough to come back to work?
Are you still suffering from whatever element that could affect your job? Are there safety issues if you’re working with other people? Are you contagious?
Maybe I need you to have a doctors note so I can keep my workplace functioning, which was the intent of the legislation.
It’s pretty obvious that there is an issue, when people like you just figure I can just tell them I’m sick and nobody can ever question it… spoken like the broom pusher
@@kyloren3693Allowing doctors to record your private medical appointments with AI is not protecting your privacy. It's putting every detail in the cloud and making government access much easier.
@@rettbutler1312 Yes. Violation of PHIA! Personal Health & Information Act!
How about give us back our sick days?
what if you're sick but dont want to take any medicine? lol
Sneeze into an envelope for the H.R file.
Or, you just have a Flu & need Bed Rest!
3 sick days after a pandemic is wild. more paid days off for workers in Ontario now!
Ya that 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999997% survival rate pathogen was bad.
fewer sick days and more vacation days that may be taken on a day-by-day basis.
@@laid07Canada has the second to worst vacation days entitlement of the G7 countries. USA is the worst but Americans are paid better and pay less taxes. Canadians are getting burned out and Ontarians are probably worst off.
@@pinochetrevivalist7374 Yeah, Ontario sucks, that's why I left. Too expensive, too many foreigners, too much traffic, cannot fart without first acquiring a permit.
The fact that we are grown adults but have to provide proof in order to take a day off blows my mind ,
Exactly. Not even for pay. They need to provide evidence why they SHOULDN'T be paid.
Because most adults still behave like children.
In Saskatchewan employees pay for this sick notes
Tell that to black & McDonald in Ontario. They fired workers for not getting dr. Notes after flu season 3 days.
Yeah that's part of why they are doing it. A lot of businesses bully employees telling them they can't return to work after being sick without a note... so that toxic bully tactic is no longer valid.
This really comes down to treating people like people and not mindless worker robots. Anyone else feel like Ontario has become too capitalistic and Americanized in all the wrong ways? Longer hours, less pay, less benefits, do more with less seems to be the Ontario motto now. Why do we keep letting our poticians not do anything to improve life for us? When did being a net benefit to your society stop being a key component of a politicians job?
AND THE BUCK ALWAYS GETS PASSED TO THE POOR LOWER CLASS! I SMELL THE FIRES OF REVOLUTION STARTING UP!
What if the doctor sends you home without any medication?
Or, if you don't even NEED a Doctor. Thinking back to Elementary School, how many Flu Bugs did we bring home to our PARENTS?
What happened to the honour system.
A little humour, about that. I wasn't sick, but had to take the day off from work because our Garage Door collapsed. Yes, I called my Supervisor, and because she knew I was a solid employee, told me that was fine.after she stopped laughing. She knew about the defects with our Condo! I think the line from her was, "If anyone else had told me that....", if I remember correctly! I was able to go back the next day! That was a good company to work for.
I moved out as fast as possible! Once I gor a strong enough Tax Return, I found my own Apartment! Absolutely no issues, or defects, here!
Yeah right tell that to the big bosses who harass and bully you if you dont bring a note, and not bully and harass for a day, it can go on for a wk or more from every boss in the plant.
So if i bought cough medicine 4 months ago, so I'd have it at home gor when i get sick in the future, what now?
Is my employer going to respect the fact i plan for the future, or lecture me about a 4 month old receipt...I think we all know.
What the heck? That was still a think in Ontario? Wow..
3 sick days is a joke. One occurrence of the flu, could take that up in one shot.
probably more likely because doctors would charge their own prices for doctors note, making it an easy way to profit for them and Canada noticing all this stuff to tax it. Taxing everything.
...yeah really don't think Dr offices want to be doing HR 😅😅
So only 3 days? Ok. So if Im still sick on the 4th I will definitely go back to work so I can spread my illness. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Just another example of how our society is coming apart at the seams.
Hello, Winston.
By requesting a receipt, that is in violation of PHIA! PHIA is Personal Health & Information Act! That, and PIPEDA. PIPEDA is The Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act and is the federal privacy law for private-sector organizations. It sets out the ground rules for how businesses must handle personal information in the course of their commercial activity.
Thank you Doug ford for this mess!
What if I can’t afford medication and need to try rest and take some holistic remedy??
Looks like that doctor keeps smelling her hair.
That's about time! Long due!
I like this decision. Too often bad employers would use the doctor's note ploy to punish an employee for being absent, to encourage less absenteeism. Many, many people don't have family doctors, so are subject to paying for a doctor's note at a clinic or ER (a little more than twenty bucks). Fastenal Canada used this tactic to get employees they no longer wanted to quit voluntarily. The company paying only a little better than minimum wage, that twenty dollar return-to-work ticket seemed unnecessarily punitive, somewhat mean spirited.
Your just coming up with this now🤨 cmon guys
There is no way my previous employer, before or after I retired, would have enforced that in Winnipeg. Here is an explanation of PHIA: The Personal Health Information Act (PHIA) regulates the collection, use, disclosure, security and destruction of personal health information by trustees.
So, how does this fall into the requirement for insurance?
Or is this just something else that the public service automatically gets? ?
Oh, talk about it?
No, it requires the internet, which violates security of the person.
It is illegal.
There, I talked about it.
@@Dam-a-fence
You’re missing my point completely.
Unionized workers, require a doctors note to get insurance . It’s not about the employer, it’s about the insurance company..
How does this legislation affect unionized workers who require a doctors note to initiate insurance coverage? .
@@Ont785
Ah, unions,
It came from the right wing.
It can only be anti-union, and was probably designed solely to oppose unions.
@@Ont785 Unions, are, from what I can tell, one very very small step removed from a mafia.
Their leaders always seem to me, to look exactly like the sweaty, gluttonous mob boss I would expect to find leading any mafia.
Were I interested n how I might offend another entity, I'd be lying.
This is called a first world country 😂.
I wonder if the a.i. note-taker will tell my employer I have 6½ fingers on one hand and exceedingly creepy wandering eyes
It will certainly tell the cloud and will be accessible by the government. This is all kinds of violation.
No doctors soo yeah
LOL sooooooooooooooooooooo many people gonna take advantage of this
canadas has historically always paid less than USA and tried to sell their point on benefits and worker wellbeing but now i see USA makes more money and canadian benefit isnt even necessarily better compared to a working person in an average american state
Six notes whats that 😂😂😂
I noticed that too :)
How hard is it to have a notepad template?
this should have happened like a decade ago
Yes decrease sick days. I worked for a hospital that used to put their employees on attendance awareness for cancer and heart surgery. Ford is for taking away rights and shredding Healthcare.
Awesome another way to screw small business. Thanks
lol…welcome to the 21st century