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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • Amway said what about WWDB? Today's video is about the basics of Worldwide Dream Builders. We will go over what WWDB is, Who started the company, what products they sell, the cost to launch your wwdb/amway business, and income disclosures. Worldwide Dream Builders frustrates me so much and this frustrates you as well!
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Komentáře • 831

  • @jamescole6959
    @jamescole6959 Před rokem +10

    if you have to pay a monthly subscription fee, you are a customer and not an employee... or in this case a distributor

  • @amnervak2808
    @amnervak2808 Před 3 lety +86

    I've been around the organization for about 4 years, and its changed a lot. They're a lot more up front about things than they used to be, especially incomes.
    If you're going to join, make sure you get in with the right people. If someone's being shady or weird or arrogant, even about this, drop them. There are plenty of people building it who have huge hearts and genuinely want to help. Those are the ones you want to join with.
    Its a difficult business to be in, and anyone making it sound easy or like its a free lunch you want to be cautious with. Its hard work.

    • @AD-uh2ky
      @AD-uh2ky Před 3 lety +12

      So..........how much money are you making? because 4 years is a long time for a "business establishing" especially selling for company worth over 9 billion and debt free...
      or is it your fault that you are not doing enough, not putting enough time, not training enough etc...etc...oh my personal favorite when Amway people make fun of 9-5 people but can't even offer your employees/"business creators" a basic health insurance, or pay the taxes which you can be penalized for if not paid quarterly....
      Amway is 9 billion dollars and debt free is because most of the debt is incurred by the distributors buying the products themselves on top of paying yearly membership.....

    • @amnervak2808
      @amnervak2808 Před 3 lety +14

      ​@@AD-uh2ky Got me there. I also have a gym I never work out at, which I'm now realizing is the gym's fault as well. Thanks. Sorry I entered the conversation. It won't happen again.

    • @geethasoul4722
      @geethasoul4722 Před 2 lety +15

      True. I learned a lot while I was there.. some of the most wonderful ppl too. I still keep in touch. W/o them I wouldn’t be who I am now.

    • @geethasoul4722
      @geethasoul4722 Před 2 lety +5

      I run my own business now.

    • @casinferneycf45
      @casinferneycf45 Před 2 lety +6

      @@AD-uh2ky at the same time though in what line of any entrepreneurship do you have health insurance that you don't have to pay for yourself? That's not a fair criticism

  • @fisshbone
    @fisshbone Před 4 lety +68

    Multilevel Marketers: "Haters are just jealous of your success and that you're taking action in your life. Anybody who is a hater is just a sad person with no propects"
    Also Multilevel Marketers: *110 Dislikes on a video because a girl is giving an honest review after 6 months of trying the system*
    I thought y'all were too busy cashing checks to care what the "haters" have to say?? How'd you find time to watch this video and get worked up over an honest review? Sounds like you do care what the haters have to say...

    • @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D.
      @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D. Před rokem

      Should never mention what was it like to recruit people somebody must have talked her and her husband out of the business it takes money to she also probably had a small group of people not give it time to grow

    • @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D.
      @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D. Před rokem

      It's the same thing as going to college you got to pay your intuition fee your classes books parking lot is a place of business. And you fell behind your classes and you got to be on probation for six months or a year , probably got to pay for that. And when you graduate you get your degree or your papers for the career that you want but you don't get it.

  • @yeehaw1445
    @yeehaw1445 Před 4 lety +17

    It’s not a business of your own if you are the mercy, censorship, and under control of amway or worldwide. Reach a certain pin and you will be censored on what you say and do and judged as well. A true business owner is just that the full owner and can do as he/she pleases with no one and I mean nobody telling them otherwise expect for the law!

  • @MrXanston
    @MrXanston Před 4 lety +39

    WWG was the best thing that ever happened to me. They teach you how to break out of your comfort zone. Be a first class citizen, learn people skills and create good habits in your life. The hardest thing was breaking out of my turtle shell(comfort zone). Now I definitely didn’t build the biggest amway business. But I directly applied all principles learned from WWG and grew a traditional small business that did 1.9 million in revenue last year. I would do it ALL over again if I had to. I’m sorry you didn’t have the greatest experience but I had a totally different one. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors 🤟

    • @stoicg6970
      @stoicg6970 Před 4 lety +1

      How come this has less likes than negative comments? 🤔

    • @kjnazari4734
      @kjnazari4734 Před 4 lety

      his just part of them and wants to convince you. its all bs. dont even waste your time. do what motivates you in life. you dont need to wwg bs

    • @stoicg6970
      @stoicg6970 Před 4 lety

      Mike Nazarian actually I found my purpose through leveraging WWG bro.. it’s just a tool to help you think. You don’t need to be part of the business

    • @kjnazari4734
      @kjnazari4734 Před 4 lety +1

      @@stoicg6970 there are books for that, and you learn by experience.

    • @stoicg6970
      @stoicg6970 Před 4 lety

      Mike Nazarian you don’t get it man. I was going through tough times and had nobody and it was thanks to these guys and self development helped me realize what I truest want in life. Not just WWG

  • @luiggyacosta2140
    @luiggyacosta2140 Před 3 lety +49

    My friend is in WWDB, and he’s not the same person anymore. It’s like they’ve brainwashed him into being a totally different person. He’s been directly involved with them since 2015 and still hasn’t made any type of money with them. I remember he would tell me and other close friends that we can’t be hanging out with him because out association would be the death of him and we’re basically responsible for his own shortcomings in life. Since then he’s turned into an anti-social person who feels super offended when you turn him down for trying to drag you into the WWDB/Amway cult. It’s wrong and I wish I could make him realize his mistake but that’s his problem now.

    • @nornaattridge3153
      @nornaattridge3153 Před rokem

      Yes!!, because people like this one talking going around and giving Amway a bad name, at the end money is not all that IS THE PERSON YOU BECOME!!!, if you are selfish, you not going to last in this business, is for ppl, that WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE, this is not for quitters

  • @dkharris2554
    @dkharris2554 Před 4 lety +62

    We just finished a Zoom conference with a couple that wanted to "help" us be more financially secure. As soon as we got off the line, we googled it and came across your videos. It seemed scammy to me anyway but I wanted the validation. Its too vague and the guy said he works in marketing, which threw me off and that were going to be debt free in 2 years --paying off 100K. Anyway, thank you!

    • @rachealminnskay4428
      @rachealminnskay4428 Před 4 lety +3

      People attempted to recruit us 3 times and only the third couple after the third meeting actually told us the name of the company. Only after did I realize it was so we couldn't google them and find content like this

    • @Youngnfree89
      @Youngnfree89 Před 4 lety +11

      Be very careful when you listen to ppl who are non successful this is such an entitled video it’s scary. If these ppl partnered with different people and found success do you think they would make a video? People who go to college and put in no effort drop out no degree. You don’t see them making a video of why college is a scam. Ask these people honestly what was your work habit? What type of ppl did you look to partner with? It’s always two sides

    • @kjnazari4734
      @kjnazari4734 Před 4 lety +5

      THEY ARE A TOTAL SCAM. DO NOT GIVE GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY.

    • @naomibecker8168
      @naomibecker8168 Před 4 lety +2

      You just not meant to be ❤️

    • @tamekawilliams8708
      @tamekawilliams8708 Před 4 lety +3

      George Kent I understand what you are saying but what is the percentage of people dropping out of college vs the percentage of those who graduate? Have you ever been to a major function such as FED? Take a look at the persons who are eagles and above and are on the floor vs the amount of persons in the nose bleeds. What is the percentage of anyone becoming a diamond? Remember the 1/3,1/3 1/3.

  • @Thomanator1982
    @Thomanator1982 Před 3 lety +61

    Thank you so much for this video. I almost join them yesterday but my gut instinct said NO! Thank you

    • @diegohernandez7403
      @diegohernandez7403 Před 3 lety +5

      SAME my inner intuition told me no when I got a weird vibe

    • @danieloconnor9202
      @danieloconnor9202 Před 2 lety +8

      If you guys actually believe what she is saying, you probably would not do very well.

    • @sheisgood123
      @sheisgood123 Před 2 lety +3

      Really you lose an amazing opportunity. Don’t listen losers.

    • @gigio6873
      @gigio6873 Před 2 lety

      @@sheisgood123 lol so your 0
      0003 mhhhh

    • @nornaattridge3153
      @nornaattridge3153 Před rokem +1

      This is not for losers!!, this is for ppl, that won’t settle for mediocrity!!

  • @esmaypintor
    @esmaypintor Před 3 lety +46

    My sister got me into it... I never met a more brainwashed set of people in my life... all I remember from a Nuts and Bolts Meeting for I believe Josh and Aspen Baker who are a young couple maybe in their 20s when I last saw them when I was 17... anyways I remember Josh saying, “you have to come to these Board Meetings if you want to make it, I don’t care if your sick grandma is in the hospital... you come to these meetings to become an IBO...” I eventually was happy when my sister stopped bringing me since I started to hate what they stood for... WWDB is just another Pyramid Scheme ploy and promise to have you retire within 5 years... my sister has been with them for I believe more than 5 years and still nothing... not to mention my own brother-in-law since I’m no longer in it decided to tell me, “she won’t get it, she will never be capable of owning her business or having one.” I do believe there are some nice people but they are so brainwashed that this will help them become rich.

    • @nornaattridge3153
      @nornaattridge3153 Před rokem

      Your kid is not brain washed????, have ask for permission to go to the bathroom, go home sick, etc, every business requires capital Amway IS AND WILL BE THE BEST COMPANY WILL EVER EXIST!, just have to do the work!!!!!

    • @ivn-pL
      @ivn-pL Před rokem

      Give me her info I want to Join

    • @artymunoz5060
      @artymunoz5060 Před 11 měsíci

      I’m not an amway fan but for a loved one to tell you “she will never make it, or have her own business” is a real problem. Talk about discouraging

  • @81quiroz
    @81quiroz Před 4 lety +13

    i made it to the 3rd meeting and after seeing this i better off drop shipping and selling on ebay like i have been doing and i find it weird when the one guy told me they do marketing for apple, nike and so on and when looking at the video its different

    • @meganann9625
      @meganann9625 Před 3 lety +2

      Literally! Dropshipping is WAY better. You’re in complete control and can go by your budget completely. No recruiting, no time wasted, no manipulation.

  • @Kballin99
    @Kballin99 Před 4 lety +25

    WWDB/Amway changed mine and my wife's life literally, forever. We got out of $85k of debt in 3.5 years and just had our first baby. It replaced my wife's income, and it's on the way to replacing mine.
    I feel bad for people who find this video (that only has partial truths) and then they opt out because they think this is the "truth". I've been around the organization for 7 years, and the leaders of World Wide have hearts of gold.
    There's literally NO way you lost money. It's not lost if you apply the personal development to your life. Judging by the video, I assume that wasn't done.
    Learn to value personal growth and you won't have to post hater videos to try to earn your audience in life.
    Cheers,

  • @dragonsystems5973
    @dragonsystems5973 Před 4 lety +20

    ugghhhhh.... I didnt fall for it... the one that attempted to suck me in was just insultingly hamfisted... The guy I dealt with gave off suspicious vibes from the start... I specifically told him I was not interested in Amway.... then he tried to get me into it anyway. Also... its not running your own business... they can say that all they want... its a franchise as far as I am concerned

  • @northwestclasspnw7974
    @northwestclasspnw7974 Před 3 lety +4

    I just really fucking hate that someone pretended to be my friend in the middle of a pandemic just to sell me some shit.

  • @mada2295
    @mada2295 Před 4 lety +49

    my older sister is in worldwide and know a lot of her friends in it. Great people. she hasn't had a job for 2 years. shes 25. I would do it but i'm passionate about environmental engineering. Lol I mean to each his own i guess

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety +14

      Thank you for your comment and for taking the time out your day to watch my video. I’m happy for your friend finding success. I hope nothing but the best in life for you! I’m so proud that you are taking a career path in environmental engineering, that is so cool. Thank you for being so passionate and willing to make a difference in our environment! We need more people like you to take action. I’m simply here sharing information however like you have said to each their own. Thank you again Adam!!!! 🙏🏼

    • @m.f.culler9012
      @m.f.culler9012 Před 3 lety +2

      Mada 22 I’m looking for an up line if she’s interested

    • @xannymack9773
      @xannymack9773 Před 2 lety

      @Samuel Kim why don’t you shut the fuck up and accept that EVERY WORD you have heard from these people has been a lie. Let me try and break this down. THEY. ARE. LYING. TO. YOU.

  • @amandanicole5831
    @amandanicole5831 Před 4 lety +32

    Thank you for this series of breakdowns, because I was able to send her your videos last night to prove to her my point of how this bs really works. Amazing job! You are helping so many people to see what's really happening. A lot of people are desperate right now, and they are reaching out to thousands of people during this pandemic. Taking advantage of people's vulnerability is a disgrace.

  • @Chloe5264
    @Chloe5264 Před 3 lety +46

    Great video! It really surprises me that some people want to still push these bogus pyramid schemes as an independent business. You are still working for Amway and putting money into their pockets, that is not your business. You are simply an independent contractor. Not a business owner. When you have your own business, you get all the profit, of course there are expenses to having your own business, but again, whatever profit you make comes back to you. You don't have to give a percentage of it to another company.

    • @abriyahyasha-rahla2656
      @abriyahyasha-rahla2656 Před 3 lety +3

      🎯

    • @MadanSingh-rq2kt
      @MadanSingh-rq2kt Před 3 lety +2

      Your comment doesn't make any sense.

    • @bsamuel3758
      @bsamuel3758 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MadanSingh-rq2kt maybe try reading it again? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @miinfl7143
      @miinfl7143 Před 2 lety +4

      You said it yourself. Business owners have expenses. You're paying the manufacturer, staff, landlord et al. It's no different from giving someone else a cut of your profit. That's not what's shady about Amway.
      The shady thing about Amway is they bilk your money through the books, courses, products you have to buy while promoting a system that ultimately makes you a slave to your upline.

    • @edwarddobson7039
      @edwarddobson7039 Před 2 lety +2

      I couldn’t agree more, it’s a profiteering game. The ones that make money in Amway, make money off of the people that lose money. Absolutely awful

  • @nonoiscool98
    @nonoiscool98 Před 4 lety +11

    I appreciate you sharing this. I am on the fence, but feel there is something they are hiding. This definitely helped laying out what I am looking at.

    • @sofoniasfaniel1306
      @sofoniasfaniel1306 Před 3 lety +1

      Did you manage to find out?

    • @nonoiscool98
      @nonoiscool98 Před 3 lety +4

      I left, I am focusing on other business ventures. More specifically digital marketing. Be warned, because the people who invite you to this Amway will cut you off. They definitely have a cult like mentality. I wish you best of luck in a real business opportunity.

  • @AprilCunningham
    @AprilCunningham Před 4 lety +26

    This was one of the most straight forward and easy to understand videos out there. My good friend and her hubby just got sucked into this. I pray they get out sooner than later.

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety

      April Chesterfield thank you 🙏🏼

  • @poeticaffect2956
    @poeticaffect2956 Před 4 lety +16

    Thank you chica… This answered questions I had. Not going to do the zoom call tomorrow. Keep doing what your doing:)

    • @erickgonzalez3308
      @erickgonzalez3308 Před 4 lety

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @notyou3249
      @notyou3249 Před 3 lety

      what are you doing now?

    • @giuseppelarosa6748
      @giuseppelarosa6748 Před 2 měsíci

      Amway e un attività seria. Purtroppo ci sono molti imbroglioni che si infiltrano nella rete distributiva di Amway per far credere che sia piramidale. Tutte balle, lascia perdere quello che dice questa ragazza perché non si può giudicare questa attività in 6 mesi..

  • @deeman524
    @deeman524 Před 3 lety +5

    Depending on who your state and who your recruiters are, there's a different game for each group.
    I started at the beginning of Covid so I haven't had to go to any big meetings, lucky me. And my training line is called URA.

  • @CommanderBarfy
    @CommanderBarfy Před 4 lety +34

    I was calling my best friend for support because I recently discovered I was brainwashed by a cult and was a little uncertain about the direction of my life now... he said the “business opportunity” he had been offered sounded like a perfect fit for me and this is it. Thanks for the video, hope I can get him out

    • @rachealminnskay4428
      @rachealminnskay4428 Před 4 lety +3

      "Ah yes, you are recovering from intellectual control, let me adopt you into this motivational hive mind that will take your money too"

    • @TheGostboy7
      @TheGostboy7 Před 3 lety

      @@rachealminnskay4428 what my homie did to me smh

    • @axiomloves21
      @axiomloves21 Před rokem

      Lol! Next time they should buy you dinner first before they rape your mind!

    • @gbC4mpos
      @gbC4mpos Před rokem

      Lol wait what

  • @MrCubanDaddy
    @MrCubanDaddy Před rokem +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH I ALMOST FELT FOR THIS SCAM TOO. I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SIGNING IN THE NEXT 1HR, BUT MY GUT FEELIN STOP ME AND I DID A LITTLE DIGGING AROUND AND I FOUND THIS VIDEO THAT COMPLITY CHANGE MY MIND ❤

  • @gregsomebody7247
    @gregsomebody7247 Před 4 lety +26

    Grear video, Martha! I was almost roped in by these shysters. Recruited by two Hunbros who didn't even tell me the name of the organization until three meetings in. They pulled out all the stops on me. Prosperity gospel, dreams of retirement, falses promises. The best decision I ever made was not signing up for this scheme. Keep up the good work.

    • @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D.
      @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D. Před rokem

      Just be honest just say it wasn't for you because you didn't have the confidence to do it

  • @KalikasKorner
    @KalikasKorner Před 2 lety +4

    I have a really good friend who got me to come to some meetings and I was earning a mentorship but I had a newborn and a lot going on so I didn’t continue. Thank goodness!!!! I feel like my friend would be offended if I tried to help her see the bigger picture. It’s really sad how many ppl Lose so much to these mlms

    • @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D.
      @WEAPON-X-LOGANA.D. Před rokem

      At least you're honest it's a business there going to be some winds and some losses that's how the business world works

  • @northwestclasspnw7974
    @northwestclasspnw7974 Před 3 lety +11

    Holy shit. The AMWAY defense here and in the likes, is insane.

  • @kixxva
    @kixxva Před 2 lety +11

    Two rules for a happy life.. never buy a timeshare and never join an MLM

  • @ImBiebersBabeBaby
    @ImBiebersBabeBaby Před 4 lety +21

    We lost thousands, too. Also was I the only one who thought the board plan meetings in the middle of the night were weird? Lol. Thanks for explaining everything perfectly in this video!💗

    • @Lxsgrl
      @Lxsgrl Před 4 lety

      That has to do with what organization your with everyone works different and its not mandatory unless you really want to succeed and put that time into it in the middle of the night. Because the organization I'm in does not do that.

    • @ImBiebersBabeBaby
      @ImBiebersBabeBaby Před 4 lety +4

      LxsGirl we put lots of time and effort into it. Staying up all night multiple times a week, spending all our weekends at meetings & events, etc. it’s not for everyone, but I wish you luck.

    • @mamaskylee2102
      @mamaskylee2102 Před 4 lety +3

      @isabella same here!! We wasted so many time and money and the guilt of leaving our kids to babysitter so we can go to meetings not even including the travel from state for major event.😤 we take another year to build financially..

    • @lethallines5898
      @lethallines5898 Před 2 lety +2

      They are at nigh bc normal people work during the day

    • @anrojasm
      @anrojasm Před 8 měsíci

      How in the world you lost thousands? 🙈🤣 Is based on products. You didn’t use or ate what you bought or sold it?

  • @jrccandleco7939
    @jrccandleco7939 Před 4 lety +25

    They almost got me!!! I didn’t like the secrecy,
    The constant meetings with out telling me about the organization. My mottos is : too many secrets= too many lies

    • @angelcakes2385
      @angelcakes2385 Před 4 lety +4

      Same....it's so damn secretive i thought they sold drugs...or that it was illegal or a cult

    • @kanika9995
      @kanika9995 Před 3 lety

      😄😄😄

    • @giuseppelarosa6748
      @giuseppelarosa6748 Před 2 měsíci

      Allora sei capitata nel team sbagliato. Nel mio team non ci sono segreti e il mio mentore mi sta veramente aiutando a fare l'attività. Cerca di informarti meglio direttamente ad Amway e denuncia ogni cosa sospetta. Molti imprenditori leader Amway sono stati cacciati da Amway perché si sono comportati disonestamente con quelli che si avvicinano per la prima volta al business di Amway. Non credere a tutte quelle bugie che dicono su Amway. Amway NON È PIRAMIDALE!! Un anno fa qui in Italia Amway ha denunciato un leader che imbrogliava incaricati e clienti e faceva parte di una setta satanica. È stato denunciato e arrestato per truffa aggravata con finalità a estorsione e manipolazione mentale. Riusciva a convincere con l'ipnosi a comprare i prodotti e a iscrivere le persone costringendole a fare sesso con lui. È finito in carcere! Come vedi Amway non transige che ci siano disonesti nell'attività.

  • @pixiedust1273
    @pixiedust1273 Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I had someone approach me about this. The gal seemed very nice. She asked me to read this book in like 3 days. Then met up with me a few times. Had me join some zoom meets and a live event by this guy Trevor Baker. I guess he is the big cheese or something. I liked some of the material she shared yet I was always on alert of what all this really was. Watching your video helps me see that I made the right choice. Thank you for talking openly about this. They are very secretive and only give you information in pieces as to keep stringing you along for the expectancy of something magical. I really do appreciate your honesty.

    • @derekdan2170
      @derekdan2170 Před 2 lety +1

      this is actually happening to me right now, after my 2nd zoom session with a "mentor" who's the older brother of an acquaintance of mine (I have a mutual friend I met the acquaintance through), he gave me enough information to look up everything online; I had thought everything was too good to be true and I was right. This is such a scam. He talked about start up fees and that where I crossed the line and also making commissions on every new person you get to join... Yeah.

  • @tonynguyen4530
    @tonynguyen4530 Před 3 lety +18

    I had a question. What if you did what they taught and did the 2 to 5 year plan. What would of happened to you? I know you quit after 6 months but what about the people who didnt quit and stuck it out?

    • @Hunter12365
      @Hunter12365 Před 3 lety +10

      I was there for about 4 years. I did not become broke, but I wasted a lot of time trying to build My bussyness. I only earned a couple of bucks, but the products are kinda expensive and hard to sell. The only way I could see to qualify or get a certain level, was by overstocking, or by overstocking someone else. Sure I was a fool by following a dream that was someone else's, but I was really desperate.

    • @luiggyacosta2140
      @luiggyacosta2140 Před 3 lety +5

      I got a buddy involved with these people directly and he’s been in there since 2015 and he hasn’t made a single penny. He’s still loyal to them though, which is his own downfall

    • @northwestclasspnw7974
      @northwestclasspnw7974 Před 3 lety +2

      You would go broke and you would lose all your friends as they would get tired of you constantly trying to sell to them.

    • @Travistrejo
      @Travistrejo Před 3 lety +14

      If you are putting the numbers through the process you’ll be rich. We like teaching, put 150 people through the process in a year and you’ll have your foundation to become a diamond, which is true. But everyone that makes these videos are not doing the work so they automatically think PYRAMID SCHEME 😂😂

    • @luiggyacosta2140
      @luiggyacosta2140 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Travistrejo That’s because it is a MLM Pyramid Scheme.

  • @kingblue4768
    @kingblue4768 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks my cousin is really into this saying "keep trying you can make it" I've spent 600 n spent alot of time recruiting is way to much especially now days thanks

  • @thenatureboytnb3540
    @thenatureboytnb3540 Před rokem +3

    Quick question whats your income a month and what qualifies you to talk about a billion dollars business and make videos about it who you think will listen to you if your not a business analyst

  • @jillsandwich6808
    @jillsandwich6808 Před 3 lety +8

    I lost my car with this company. I'm better off with a great paying job where I'm happy 😁

  • @N3VADAN
    @N3VADAN Před 4 lety +20

    Martha, I truly appreciate you making this video. People need to be aware and knowledgeable of what’s out there especially the people who get approached vaguely. However, I was and I think I’m still an IBO who was active on and off with WWDB. One thing that did bother me was the money that I was spending and yes it is expensive. But, it’s expensive period to start and own a business period (shocker). I currently stepped away from them and started a business myself outside of MLMs so a traditional business. You are all over the place and I didn’t really get your point with what you were saying, you said you were going to tell the truth about wwdb but all I really heard was speculation and criticism which anyone can be a critic, my 3 year old did it this morning when I asked him to eat his beans. You also touched on Amway not endorsing WWDB which they clearly state after each and every audio so that makes me question if you really were listening or reading the material and disclosures, which is designed that way to avoid any law suits. It is heavily regulated by the FTC which in the hood we would say, “you got to watch out for them alphabet boys” The FBI, LAPD, the DEA etc. Point is it’s nothing to mess around with. You also didn’t like the fact that up line makes a commission or money off the books you buy from the website. So who does the money go to when you buy your audible books? I know your speaking from experience and trying to “help” people but I can’t help but to feel like you don’t realize your being sort of a hypocrite. First off, your on CZcams, judging your thumbnails and taking a look at your new videos your trying to attract more people with cute thumbnails, good graphics and content, so your pretty much trying to make this a full time thing which will make you money in the long run. Do you know the statistics it is to make money off CZcams? It’s very slim, do you know the statistics it is for people with gym memberships to actually get fit, very slim, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop trying to eat a quesadilla loaded with beans and 2 sodas on the side every few hours or stop running because of those statistics and I’m pretty sure when you look up statistics for CZcams stars your not going to stop making videos. “Taking advantage and vulnerabilities” huh (with an open mouth going uhhhhhhhhhh) I think before you post you got to really think about what you say and why you say it. If I was a teacher or coach grading you for your work or performance I would give you a D-. My experience is this, WWDB was an amazing opportunity, the mentorship, the coaching, and overall the friendships you make in that business are incredible. Everything that they have taught me I still use today in my traditional business. Look up how much a life coach charges and you will be blown away vs the education that this business will give you. There’s a video where this guy on CZcams is asking rappers for advice and coaching and the fees they charge just for a little bit of advice is nuts. Just look up how much money a football coach in the NFL makes just for coaching. My advice is, if you are approached by someone from WWDB, take a chance and soak in the association. Learn and listen to what they listen to it’s amazing what it does to your brain. For example Extreme Ownership, Start With Why, The 5 Love Languages, those are some amazing books that aren’t directly affiliated with Amway or WWDB just the education they give you. I am very grateful that I was shown this business and although I probably am not going back because my business is doing good, I’ve seen people because I was in it for over 5 years start from the bottom and actually make a good living and 6 figures from. I’ve seen proof that this business works it’s just you have to make so much sacrifices and that’s something I had issues with. It’s definitely a lifestyle not a hobby just like Martha made it sound like. 6 months come on home girl get real. I hope you become a really good CZcams developer, and make it big I really do but dang I think you need to check yourself big time and give that biz a little credit, it got you making CZcams videos. That’s a start, I know after 6 months your not going to quit just because you aren’t making money yet. You know you will eventually you just have to put in the work which is the mindset you need starting and doing any business period. Form Amway to CZcams. Good luck and again thank you for sharing.

    • @gaetanodipasqua1479
      @gaetanodipasqua1479 Před 4 lety +6

      You make a lot of sense in your rebuttal...very fair and real in your comments. My wife and I built the business in early '80's, part of the Bill Britt Org which morphed into WWDB..we had a great upline and learned so much that changed our life and approach to life post-Amway. Life and circumstances got in the way and we allowed that to derail us...but we're forever grateful for the experience. We got involved when we were 26 and 24 and it was like a post-grad education about business, psychology, free enterprise, leadership and on an on. We met some of our best friends, to this day AND found a new life in our spiritual walk as a result.

    • @rachealminnskay4428
      @rachealminnskay4428 Před 4 lety +3

      Careful, your inner guilt for sucking people into a money black hole is showing

    • @N3VADAN
      @N3VADAN Před 4 lety +1

      Gaetano DiPasqua that warms my heart knowing that. It changes your life for sure if you are around for a while. Bill Britt is awesome!

    • @N3VADAN
      @N3VADAN Před 4 lety

      Racheal Minns Kay Take it how you want, I appreciate you for taking the time to read what I posted and comment. But your wrong, that isn’t my intention at all.

  • @marianaquijasdesoweidan2127

    I am still trying to process on why people don’t questions their boss or the company they work for but actually question a business like this. People want to have the rich life without putting the work.. if this video un-motivates you from building a business like this then you were bound to quit so you are doing the person that invited you a favor. This video is just a filter :)
    Just to say the least, this is what it is said about making it as an actor.
    “The majority of people who attempt to make a sustainable career as an actor fail to do so, and it is incredibly difficult.”
    This statement is increíbly similar to every other “get rich” paths… 😂 so do yourself a favor, respect what people do and put yourself to work. Nothing in life comes for free.

  • @thebabygiraffe4921
    @thebabygiraffe4921 Před 4 lety +12

    I just subscribed. I started my channel 4 months ago. I’m almost at 1000 subscribers. Keep doing what you’re doing. If I might suggest something, get a ring light and put some design work into your background. Another thing that really helps watch time is B-role. You’re very articulate and the content is intriguing. Keep going!

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety +2

      Thank you so much for the tips!!! It truly means so much that you took the time to give me pointers! 💚 I added a back drop and some more lighting in my next video. B-role is something I have to learn and practice, soon will be incorporating it. I subscribed to your channel and can’t wait to binge watch your videos. As a 5’2” shorty, I’m super interested in seeing your videos 🤗 Congratulations on the growth of your channel!!!! 💚

  • @Ninjadog47
    @Ninjadog47 Před 4 lety +20

    Good job Martha! Not only is there a .03% chance to make diamond you still have to work to keep the diamondship or you can lose it. Plus those people aren’t as rich as they claim to be.

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety

      Exactly! It’s so mind blowing!

    • @Steel4325
      @Steel4325 Před 4 lety +5

      Every company has to keep working to keep the business success or else they lose their business. How do you think companies like Apple are still successful after all these years.

  • @goldridgedesign9069
    @goldridgedesign9069 Před 4 lety +11

    I got here because some dude tried to get me to join Amway yesterday. I saw threw is BS pretty quickly. Guys Start your own business, you can do it. You don't need to be in a MLM. I started a small Upholstery business 4-5 years ago after I was laid off due to low gas prices I was in the oil industry. I'm loving it. I work my ass off but I keep the rewards not some dude in an upline. I get to work on what I want when I want my only boss is whom ever walks in the door every day
    I only saw threw the BS because right after high school I worked for Vector Marketing/cutco so I had made that mistake once already.

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety

      That’s awesome! Congratulations on your success in your business👏🏼👏🏼 May I ask where did they try to recruit you?

    • @goldridgedesign9069
      @goldridgedesign9069 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MarthaReyes its convoluted some guy who owns a local repair business stopped at my business in August of last year. He asked if any of us in the business park needed any repairs, but we didn't need any repairs at that time, we exchanged business cards and he left. A few months later this guy sends me some really awkward text messages I thought it was an attempt to build rapport, I thought he was just trying remind me that he does repairs and wanted me to keep his business in mind for the work, not a bid deal I do that with clients as well. I forgot about it then months later, yesterday I get a call to my business line after hours and from a number i didn't recognize. it was repair guy, he is trying to get me to join Amway. He wouldn't straight out say it was Amway at first so I decided to hear him out because I had a few celebratory drinks due a completed project we had just finished. normally I shut that crap down and won't listen. once he came out and said it was Amway I was done listening. and time someone says "do you want to make some extra money one the side" or "whats your side hustle" I am wary. I usually work 8-14 hours a day this is my main hustle and my side hustle. I'm all hustled out

    • @ed7519
      @ed7519 Před 4 lety

      Gold Ridge Design: Cutco makes excellent cutlery.

    • @goldridgedesign9069
      @goldridgedesign9069 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ed7519 their marketing practices are not the most ethical and not sustainable for the sales reps. The product is fine.

    • @stoicg6970
      @stoicg6970 Před 4 lety

      So you live in the S quadrant....

  • @BrandonBRich
    @BrandonBRich Před 2 lety +9

    I was part of worldwide for six months in 2018 from March - September and you were extremely accurate with everything you said here. Surprised how nice you were about it. Thanks for what you do. Inspires me to want to do this as well. People need to know this

  • @markomajkovica6484
    @markomajkovica6484 Před 4 lety +37

    I was involved with them for 3 years. I was young and naive at the time. I had believed everything my "coach" had told me. Wish I had seen something like this back then. I wasted a lot of time and money with them. I never liked the whole secrecy part and never telling people what it is that I was trying to get someone involved with.

  • @allisongootug8012
    @allisongootug8012 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank You! i just joined few weeks ago and finally I decided to quit for good!

    • @theamwaymantv4690
      @theamwaymantv4690 Před 3 lety +3

      A few weeks. So weak. I love millennial quitters

    • @m.f.culler9012
      @m.f.culler9012 Před 3 lety

      @@theamwaymantv4690 I’m finally in a position where I can do this. Just no up line in my area

    • @theamwaymantv4690
      @theamwaymantv4690 Před 3 lety

      I don’t have an upline in my area either and there have been diamonds And even a HIGE EDC’s who built it alone due to a falling out in the upline. Check out a man with a dream CZcams video. Message back on here if I need more help info

    • @theamwaymantv4690
      @theamwaymantv4690 Před 3 lety

      @@m.f.culler9012 czcams.com/video/wCxAqmixWvc/video.html

    • @theamwaymantv4690
      @theamwaymantv4690 Před 3 lety +1

      @@m.f.culler9012 if u need any more info or help let me know

  • @briansepulveda1973
    @briansepulveda1973 Před 4 lety +14

    Hey Martha, great job explaining it. I actually went through the process and I’m glad I did not launch. I almost did but that gut feeling really saved me. I looked up people’s stories and after watching them my eyes were completely open. I’m glad you got out! Keep moving forward!

  • @CANDEREARTES
    @CANDEREARTES Před rokem +8

    This was so helpful! I was just trying to be recruited and bc I don't have a lot of time and patience to go through the "learning " process, I was told that "this is not for everyone " making me feel dumb! Thanks for letting us know what this actually is!

    • @giuseppelarosa6748
      @giuseppelarosa6748 Před 2 měsíci

      Sbagliato! Amway non è quello che crede o dice questa donna. Lei è stata vittima di impostori che approfittano del marchio Amway per derubare la gente onestà e sincera.Amway non ha segreti e ci sono milioni di persone in Amway che si danno da fare per aiutare altre persone a migliorare la qualità della vita. Se dai retta a questa donna che crede che Amway sia una truffa, ti sbagli di grosso!! Poi dice che Amway è stata fondata negli anni '70...tutto falso. È stata fondata nel 1959 nel Michigan (USA) da Jay Van Andel e Rich De Vos. Due uomini che hanno liberato milioni di persone dalla schiavitù delle attività tradizionali gestite da avidi datori di lavoro dove non danno meritocrazia ai lavoratori..e li sottopagano pure.

  • @user-ro6ii4ch8q
    @user-ro6ii4ch8q Před 2 lety +10

    What a great overview of World wide ! I was in it for 3 years, i didnt make anything. However , I did acquire a great foundation of success principles and how to build good daily habits. If your hearts not in it 110% its not going to work for you. With my own experience , It was too much considering its not actually your own platform or brand and I didnt agree with the strict applications of the partnership. Over time I grew as an individual and I wanted to run my own business on my own terms, instead of asking permission or "seeking guidance ".
    I did find that this group has a sense of self entitlement, as if they re business model was better than others. And another issue i noticed is how they tell you that it doesn't matter what religion you come from , your welcome....but as time goes by they do ask you if you ve considering devoting your self to God as a Christian, I didnt like that. I could go on and on, but thats my two cents. And I agree with the Brainwashing comments as well!

    • @nornaattridge3153
      @nornaattridge3153 Před rokem

      Is a choice !! You don’t have to change your religion!, believe me that is not an issue, have to work hard!!, yes!!!, but is better than the compensation plan At your job, and work until you drop dead, and broke!ppl. Is afraid of work!!

  • @DanzoKun
    @DanzoKun Před 3 lety +7

    Good video. My wife and I were in WWDB for 2 years; PM me if you would like some more info about our experiences and losses there.

    • @nicholeh3025
      @nicholeh3025 Před 3 lety +2

      I’d like to know more. I’m on the fence

    • @jenniferzamora4748
      @jenniferzamora4748 Před 3 lety +3

      Can you comment your experience here? Please and thank you.

    • @TheGostboy7
      @TheGostboy7 Před 3 lety +1

      Ill help you both out, DO NOT JOIN THE CULT they will get you down and lestn info about you, just to pressure you into becoming one of them, they will legit tske your money they dont care about you fr.

  • @christinastevenson6784
    @christinastevenson6784 Před 4 lety +10

    Thank You so much for your CZcams video on Worldwide. I was approached at a Barnes &Nobles store. I was really intrigued by everything that was presented to me at first. Then I did the zoom call. After the zoom call I spoke with the person that presented this to me. He texted over to me a link that had Audio and Amyway products and other things in the link. My intuition was was spot on that this was some kind of scam. I am very familiar with Amyway and the company since it is from my home town. I did my research and then stumbled upon your CZcams channel. I really can't Thank you enough. I currently subscribed to your CZcams channel and really looking forward to seeing more of your videos. Thank You!!

  • @popcorn371
    @popcorn371 Před 2 lety +9

    I went to a meeting tonight as a guest and it felt weird. Going into it I thought it was a pyramid scheme, but it felt down right cultish. The talk only confirmed that it was a pyramid scheme and I’m not naïve enough to get caught in amount of money they said I would make. This vid has confirmed that I will tell my mentor tomorrow that I will not go through with anymore of the recruitment process.

    • @diazmoore403
      @diazmoore403 Před rokem

      Good Luck taking the blue pill.

    • @justinbostwick8436
      @justinbostwick8436 Před rokem +3

      I literally just got back home from a meeting and it felt very culty. One person literally told me to stop talking to my relatives and friends if they said anything negative about the business. As soon as I got through my door I decided to do some investigating on Amway and within 15 minutes I came to the same conclusion as you.

    • @dajamonet
      @dajamonet Před rokem +1

      Dude the same thing happen to me lol

  • @ruckanitepreacher5618
    @ruckanitepreacher5618 Před 4 lety +3

    Got into Amway back in 1989. Back then you couldn't find out this information. If it was available I never knew it. Nobody I knew knew either. Had no idea back then that the upline were making 85%+ of their money from books, tapes and functions. Just like the 97.5% who don't make a profit, I had to get out before very long. I have friends who even moved from San Antonio to Houston,Tx. to be closer to their upline. They went into horrible debt and had to quit. They were both working and they got financially ruined. It is an upspeakable evil what these upper half of the top 1% are doing to these people, the only thing that can be done about it is what YOU are doing. Putting out the information. Thank You. Mark from Arkansas.

  • @charleenjackson509
    @charleenjackson509 Před 2 lety +16

    We were in WWDB from 1990-1997, until Jack Daughery created his own organization. We were so broke, and would skip car payments to attend functions. Of course our upline discouraged not paying bills, but what they discouraged even more was missing functions. To miss functions was to earn their scorn and to be less deserving of their time and attention. Leaving babies weekends for years and years. So much time and money wasted trying to find favor with people who care nothing for you, knowing you are also just a number. I never felt worse about myself than the years I spent in Amway. It took distance to realize and understand this.

    • @KimberlyFine9595
      @KimberlyFine9595 Před 2 lety

      This may have happened after you left WWDB, but did you ever have a CD with a song about CommuniKate? I know I had it around 1999-2001ish but can’t find it for the life of me

    • @charleenjackson509
      @charleenjackson509 Před 2 lety

      @@KimberlyFine9595 Never heard of it.

    • @axiomloves21
      @axiomloves21 Před rokem +1

      I had a friend like that. Trying so hard to sell me stuff I already had to just save 10 dollars or get him on better status with his company, he realized after 4 years and 20,000 dollars he lost by given them that he was conned. He literally kept defending that company till the top leader of the company was arrested for 20 years and all the other ones got 5 to 15 years a piece for conspiracy and other huge fraud and tax fraud… and now that buddy is another company with the same tactics. All I noticed he loved was the energy he got from the conferences they had with thousands of people jumping up and down. I guess some people are addicted to being hyped up with false realities. Poor guy wasted all the money he saved up for college and still works for his dads company that he will never leave.

    • @truthisout2023
      @truthisout2023 Před rokem

      Stop and think about this! How much was Amway, how much was WWDB? If you look at Amway and it's business/ IBO rules of conduct and policies you will see, no where did AMWAY ever require anyone to join WWDB, Yager Group, Network 21 and the list goes on! Those years you mentioned 1990-1997, not much was on the internet and thus you wouldn't have known this because you would have had to call AMWAY itself to ask if you needed to join these groups or if you could fly solo aside from them. It was never AMWAY fault! AMWAY/ALTICOR is the manufacturer of the products and the affiliate membership to sell those said products. WWDB and groups like it, Organizations that linked/networked together under AMWAY membership to form there own LLC and to grow as basically one huge marketing platform. I am telling you the truth! Not Amway fault the Quixtar/WWDB empire came falling down! By WWDB doing and there doing alone!

  • @jonwilder321
    @jonwilder321 Před 3 lety +23

    Thank you! This was broken down great and answered much of my intuition! I don’t have the time to go to 5 meetings and hardly know what it’s about. I bailed on the third meeting because they push you to have “faith” in what they do without disclosing anything! Its cult like conditioning!

  • @shawnreerden6812
    @shawnreerden6812 Před 4 lety +40

    Incredible company, why doesn’t everyone at the gym lose weight?.......

    • @dragonsgirlfriend235
      @dragonsgirlfriend235 Před 4 lety +3

      Yup

    • @brianunger1
      @brianunger1 Před 4 lety +6

      Technical its a pyramid scheme. I'm a small business owner so I understand how all this works. But to continue the reference. If I am going to go to the gym (cost of operations/startup costs) and workout (my hard work) and then get asked for more money for a trainer (percentage of working with another group) to see results. I could see why she would be upset. You can go to the gym and do the work without the trainer and still see progress.
      Im not hating on WWG. I am excited to sit down with my WWG contact and see if there is something they offer for actual business owners. If the service they offer will actually help me grow my business then great.

    • @JRMiracleman
      @JRMiracleman Před 3 lety +1

      Probably because they do not put in the effort. They do not want to make the sacrifices that are necessary to lose weight.

    • @artymunoz5060
      @artymunoz5060 Před 11 měsíci

      Probably because gyms just ask you for money every month expecting you to figure it out and the only way they will actually help you personally is if you give them more money for a personal mentor.

  • @bailador64
    @bailador64 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for your time. Had an acquaintance too interested in saying hello and visiting I sniffed the MLM scent.

  • @myka788
    @myka788 Před rokem +3

    My sister is in this cult like mlm. All she does is try to sell stuff at family gatherings.

  • @maurig1582
    @maurig1582 Před 4 lety +7

    My girlfriend was looking for some new friends on an app and she was approached by someone pretending to want to be friends. My girlfriend says that she felt like she was being interviewed every time they spoke. The other girl wanted to meet me and once we agreed we got in a zoom call and she started a presentation. I can’t tell you how mad I am, what this girl did and is doing is disgusting. Pretending to want to be friends just to sign up people with an MLM. She has no idea what my girlfriend has gone through, it’s just disgusting what they do. As soon as I saw that she had WWDB website up on the screen I immediately said no. Thank you for making this video, hopefully people watch it and don’t fall for this pyramid scheme.

  • @Onceapoloplayer0910
    @Onceapoloplayer0910 Před 4 lety +5

    Really well done video Martha! I came across this video when I decided to research this whole Amway MLM thing. I'll share my brief story for any other people trying to understand what this is. I just got approached by a friend from high school asking if I wanted to join his business venture and I said I was open to hearing about it. Keep in mind it was more of an acquaintance, someone I knew existed in high school 10 years ago and thats about it. He reached out to me on facebook. I mostly did it as a friend and to give him benefit of the doubt. I am in no way business savvy or have any kind of background in business. I'm a mechanical engineer that is very content with my job and unfortunately I see how anyone struggling with their career especially in these times could be wrapped into this MLM.
    Anyways, he gave me this very vague spiel about being tired of his day job and having kids and wanted to spend his time with them. He did a good job presenting it all. They try to really hit home and reel you in through the use of talking about kids, family, and making money without really working. To be honest I'm just a horrible candidate to be chosen for recruitment because I enjoy my job and the work effort I put in plus the rewards I get from it. I was being polite and said it sounded very interesting and I'll listen to more. Then introduced a friend and gave me a back story of retiring at age 30, which again thats not something I'm interested in but I listened. I agreed to a follow up to see a presentation from this his friend. Long story short they feed you the same lines over and over. They have a presentation designed to make everything look effortless. Things like this shouldn't exist. I am going to politely turn down his recruitment.
    Your video really nailed down all the key facts and it was very interesting to watch and listen to so thank you. Glad you made it out of this situation.

    • @peppashield7929
      @peppashield7929 Před 4 lety +2

      Wow honestly, I met this girl randomly in Starbucks and she try to sell me this but she could never tell me what the company was or the business plan was to reaching "financial freedom" or retiring at 30 like her mentors that straight up seem like a GET OUT plot. So I met her three years ago and now she messages me out of the blue and I just wanted to know what this thing was about. I met her own zoom five since and still haven't figured it out til the last meeting and to found out its this so my long story short I asked her, "Are you happy with your choice , can you see yourself doing this long term" Her response straight up did not win me over she didn't believe what she was saying she kept bringing up her mentors being retired at 30, spending time with their daughter and going on trips...blah blah. I asked about you not your mentors. ANYWAYS, PEOPLE JUST DO YOUR RESEARCH AND DON'T FALL FOR EVERYTHING!

  • @vneal9847
    @vneal9847 Před 2 lety +3

    Excuse me! How is 600.00 a lot a money to begin your journey as a business owner to much money? Franchises start at 1 mil and upward. Explain this please?

    • @mattireland2269
      @mattireland2269 Před 3 měsíci

      Because you’re not a business owner, you’re a glorified salesman

    • @859derrick
      @859derrick Před 3 měsíci

      Because you have a .003% chance of even making any money!

  • @blainewillson5075
    @blainewillson5075 Před 4 lety +5

    Britt World Wide is in the US

  • @todoelectrico5380
    @todoelectrico5380 Před 2 lety +1

    Actually the lottery it’s .000001 or something like that. Don’t get on WWDB just buy what you need/ like and sell as much as you can/ want. With time you might get to 25% bonus plus profit. Don’t spend more than what you feel comfortable or can afford.

  • @hafsathatsmyname6479
    @hafsathatsmyname6479 Před 3 lety +11

    Someone was trying to recruit me but after watching your video, I changed my mind and decided not to join them. Thanks for the uploading.

    • @christinachen9273
      @christinachen9273 Před 3 lety +1

      did someone reach out to you on linkedln offering 'mentorship' ?

    • @anthonywchavez
      @anthonywchavez Před 3 lety +3

      Ok first of all, no one will try to recruit you. If they are true WWDB then will not recruit you.

    • @fourctee19
      @fourctee19 Před 3 lety

      @@christinachen9273 They’re reaching out on Bumble Bizz too! I almost just got sucked into it

    • @northwestclasspnw7974
      @northwestclasspnw7974 Před 3 lety

      @@anthonywchavez lol I've had 2 people try and recruit me by showing me the book, getting me to come to meetings and bond with them. No thanks, I'd love friends, but it can't have a price tag

    • @anthonywchavez
      @anthonywchavez Před 3 lety

      @@northwestclasspnw7974 first of all, there is no book. Second of all, it doesn’t come with a price tag. I don’t know who’ve you been talking to; whoever they were misinformed, or you’re in misinformed

  • @vneal9847
    @vneal9847 Před 2 lety +1

    Please share what ideas that you can present that will offer a way to increase your income. What do you do now?

  • @oakparkhillschapel4056
    @oakparkhillschapel4056 Před 4 lety +8

    Amway: "there are streets of gold to be harvested, come with me to a new world!"
    People: "Yay!"
    (They arrive)
    People: "Where is the gold?"
    Amway: "uuuuh... you cant see it!? Your just not working hard enough! But don't worry buy this book and you'll be able to see!"
    People: ...

    • @gagegage8707
      @gagegage8707 Před 4 lety +1

      This got me 😂😂 Strait facts though🙅🏽‍♂️🧢

  • @MLA50
    @MLA50 Před 3 lety +12

    Here's the deal... Do you wanna start a business? Ok... What do you wanna sell? You're own handmade products? Setup a shoe store? Setup a restaurant? Setup a coffee shop? Setup a phone repair shop? So how much inventory do you need to buy? What equipment do you need to buy for your business? How big of a loan do I need to get started? What types of products in your inventory do you think you can sell easily? How much money will I lose on a monthly basis if I don't move my inventory? Who will your competitors be? Online competitors? Local competitors? If you startup a retail store thus you are sourcing your products from manufacturers, or distributors, do you still consider yourself an entrepreneur? After paying for the lease of your office space, employees, inventory, utilities and other business expenses, what will your profit margins be after you have to lower your prices to match your competitors? How will you handle returns in your store? I could go on...I think it's a good idea for anyone to consider the risks of starting up any business including those related to MLM. There are many MLM companies that provide quality comprehensive products with extensive money back guarantee. And setting up your own business requires you to self study on many things including accounting, business strategy, leadership and business management or else you can just learn through trial and error. Some MLMs provide you with professional development training that you can apply to your careers and other future non MLM business. Food for thought... Have a nice day.

  • @paulmcgraw9284
    @paulmcgraw9284 Před rokem +2

    Back in the '90's, I joined AMWAY and saw that their products were way more than what you'd pay at a regular store. I also hated the fact that you had to pay a ton of money to get the tapes, etc, etc. I went to a weekend meeting which I found ridiculous. You sat in a room for hours on end without a break. In fact, it was nothing more than an hours long pep rally. By time you got out, you were exhausted. I went home the next day. I quit AMWAY soon after that. After seeing this videos and others, I'm GLAD I quit. What a waste of TIME AND MONEY. Avoid this at ALL COSTS.

  • @krnsam36
    @krnsam36 Před 3 lety +5

    just 6 months? How many times did you show the business plan?

    • @Joshukend
      @Joshukend Před 3 lety +1

      2 years being CORE, family has collectively put in over 20 years. It's garbage, and lack of results is "you not trying hard enough", but keep spending almost 10k a year when only 1% are plat and above...

    • @Joshukend
      @Joshukend Před 3 lety +1

      @Samuel Kim you no longer have blood. It is koolaid coarsing through your veins. 99.9% of people were skeptical as hell, I should've taken the hint sooner and realized they got it from minute one

    • @Joshukend
      @Joshukend Před 3 lety

      @Samuel Kim I mean, I don't have to guess about the source of your credentials... a conman named Trevor. Continue having fun maintaining your platinum's way of life

  • @ayatulkhursi
    @ayatulkhursi Před 2 lety +1

    It's not a selling business, it's a buyers business. It's NOT Amway the company that is the problem, it's usually the people you might involve yourself with. What this company offers has changed countless lives. Remember, Amway is NOT the people and the people are NOT Amway. There are building practices and principles to make a person a success using the Amway vehicle, a proven fact. Also a proven fact if you are not taught, do not follow or unwilling to learn the building practises and principles, you have no drive desire or want a change you will eventually quit. This business is so simple stupid, it's (pro)sumerism not (con)sumerism. The majority of society will barely be getting by when they reach their senior years because they did not realize or just did not have the resilience to create for themselves other streams of income, alternative passive income. Look at your bank account, savings, retirement plan. Wake up people, you're losing.

  • @denissemartinez9071
    @denissemartinez9071 Před rokem +2

    hahaha I was under my "mentors" wing and freeballing the meetings and had access to allll of their content. I guess they were "impressed" that I was 18 at the time, so I guess they really wanted me there because I was the youngest one there. Oh well, can't have it all. 🤷🏽‍♀🤷🏽‍♀

  • @Natet
    @Natet Před 2 lety +1

    I figured that’s how it works when they started explaining it to me, it’s funny how there way of commission works, they tell you there not recruiting people but they are. They show you different status like you need 12legs to become platinum and what that actually means is each person needs to pay like $2k per year and you will be making $166 per month from one of them but that’s impossible. To at-least get 12people cause if you do you’ll make 2k per month but still the person might cancel and you’ll lose money, there are so many risks involved with it clicked so fast when they started explaining. And I told them let me first make money from selling on Amway and pay for the WWG at least so that I can actually make a profit and they very much focused on the WWG subscription and that did not make any sense for me to lose 2k per year with out a tested proof, all your doing is brining more people to subscribe to WWG and you get 30% cut from it that’s it nothing more nothing less.

  • @dbjb2222
    @dbjb2222 Před rokem +1

    I really enjoyed your very detailed informative brake-down of WORLDWIDE DREAM BUILDERS and AMWAY.

  • @Al-ok1lj
    @Al-ok1lj Před 2 lety +8

    I just searched for “is WWDB still active,” and I came upon this video.
    It’s been over 15 years since I left.
    I find it interesting to see that it is indeed still active and they are still up to their tactics to make money off hardworking people.
    Thanks for making your video. I wish I had this type of information. Back then you just had to take their word for it and “trust” them to “help” you.

  • @jamielewis4321
    @jamielewis4321 Před 8 měsíci

    When I was in it back in the 1990s. I would get a cassette tape every week. Sometimes it was a double in which case I get 2 tapes on standing order. Listening to the tapes made me feel good but had no instructional information about building a business......

  • @micdynamic9053
    @micdynamic9053 Před 3 lety +3

    I have a dead end job, however it is excellent for helping me keep a roof over my head and food on the table. If I wanted to develop a side business with minimal investment and examples of success that would not interfere with my job, what would you suggest?

    • @micdynamic9053
      @micdynamic9053 Před 2 lety

      @ET phone home do you or people you personally know have success selling on ebay?

    • @micdynamic9053
      @micdynamic9053 Před 2 lety +1

      @ET phone home just having fun!
      Just don't see how that would be better than the money I make working overtime at my job or growing a team and creating on going income as an alternative.

    • @gigio6873
      @gigio6873 Před 2 lety

      @TK Kirkland soooooo sell junk to people so they can get their shopping high??? Then throw away after the feel good sensation is gone..
      Basically destroy the planet ok got it jeeez

    • @gigio6873
      @gigio6873 Před 2 lety

      @TK Kirkland just saying. So think about it... live with needs not wants save your money.....money isn't everything..
      Lol

    • @gigio6873
      @gigio6873 Před 2 lety

      @TK Kirkland sure... I can send it so you can have it with those diamonds that you have from WWG.. as you live the dream

  • @JRRIDER01
    @JRRIDER01 Před 4 lety +3

    Personally I’m not in any of those things but if I may ask how different is it “recruiting” than it is “getting subscribers” on this? All businesses need to have people in it to work? Either way, you’re awesome keep it up!

  • @ProVisioNz
    @ProVisioNz Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for making this video just attended a meeting and it didn't feel right with my gut

  • @jaylen8822
    @jaylen8822 Před 4 lety +31

    I got recruited by my own personal banker in Tri-Cities, WA. My recruiter was Rosio Cardoza, she worked at a Keybank Richland, WA. I went in to deposit my check one day and I notice she was unusually nice. She was just coming with the compliments and being extra interested. She's such a great actor and she knows how to turn it on. She was a personal banker recruiting a a bank. Recruiting its customers. Do you know how wrong, how much of violation that is. The business is such bullshit. Constant brainwashing and manipulation on a deep visceral level. Do you wanna be free? Change your association, screw your friends and family members, they dot understand. plug into your upline, listen to audios, drop a Kate, drop the message, lol.

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety +8

      That is so wrong!!! It’s truly disgusting the level these people go just because they are so brainwashed!!! I’m glad you got out!!

    • @jaylen8822
      @jaylen8822 Před 4 lety +10

      @@MarthaReyes You are awesome Martha. And beautiful as well. For someone to take the time to produce youtube videos about the scam that is WWDB/Amway takes a lot. A lot of people are in your shoes and do nothing after the fact. You're being vulnerable, brave, and courageous. Helping others. Your videos are presented with facts and you speak so clearly. You are very articulate. I support you all the Martha.

    • @ed7519
      @ed7519 Před 4 lety +5

      @@jaylen8822 Amway corporation isn't connected to wwg. Maybe you're confused?

    • @kevinogo3130
      @kevinogo3130 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ed7519 I took from this that wwg is the scam not necessarily amway

    • @sidneyrobinson2362
      @sidneyrobinson2362 Před 4 lety +3

      There is nothing wrong with being nice to people. If people were nicer to people more of the time, and tried to help people more, this world would be a better place. Gratitude for an opportunity to do something bigger and better than what the world generally offers it's something that we all could use. I wish everyone well and whatever they do. Anything worth wild goes to considerable effort.

  • @Masonjar90
    @Masonjar90 Před 3 lety +16

    Yeah, I’ll vouch for you. I did Amway for 6 months and I got out. It felt like a cult. Members seemed to have a blind devotion to it as if this was the only way to be successful. I didn’t like having to in a sense sucker people into my down line. They would always tell me to invite someone to those weekly meetings but I couldn’t tell them what it was exactly. I was already working 2 jobs and going to school and they wanted more from me but it wasn’t realistic. I was initially told that I just had to put some initial work in but after that the products would sell themselves. Not true. To be successful in Amway requires a lot of your time. You won’t get far if it’s just a side gig. You’ll end up spending more than what you make(if anything really). You also have to have a salesman personality which I don’t to do this line of work. When I told my up line that I was out he didn’t take it well and said it was like “ending a relationship “ and told me “ you need to get your head out of your butt.” I was not compelled to continue after that.

    • @johnpaulcastanedacedeno4837
      @johnpaulcastanedacedeno4837 Před 2 lety

      Just went to a meeting last night and thought it sounded like a honest pyramid scheme.

    • @4r0sty
      @4r0sty Před 9 měsíci

      Literally same here except I got out right after I "earned my membership," went to the first (and only) in person meeting in town, and saw first hand what it was really about. My "coach" started going off on a mindless tirade and yappin about how I was "a failure in life to my future self and family and haven't accomplished anything" and that's when I knew I made the right decision to quit lol. I've seen delusion but Acting like amway/ltd is the end all be all for success was something else, and dude really tried to talk me out of doing youtube💀💀
      Anyways I let dude know how I really felt about him over text before I blocked his number for good. Never been more free and happier in my life

  • @horsepowerdude
    @horsepowerdude Před 2 lety +1

    I was in it for a year. It’s sucked and I am glad I got out. Also it is a very unethical business model where a lot of the wealth you generate is passed upline to people to don’t deserve it and didn’t earn it

  • @roses.9181
    @roses.9181 Před 3 lety +12

    The whole video, you voice was cracking 💔 I’m so sorry you went through that. A really good friend of mine got into WWDB, and she’s just not the same person anymore. It’s sad to see how much her mind has changed. Also, what a huge conflict of interest when they don’t disclose that they’re going to get a commission for those purchases.

  • @WMG707
    @WMG707 Před 4 lety +8

    What results did you create, from work you did?

  • @SuperbikeDiscovery
    @SuperbikeDiscovery Před 4 lety +4

    Very informative video. We all thank you.

  • @jacksmith4669
    @jacksmith4669 Před 4 lety +13

    Here after the spring conference and all I can say is yeah, they are totally bull. Every meeting and audiobook is exactly the same and doesn’t teach you anything but fake motivational garbage. Glad I had only been apart of this cult for a few days before I left. I feel sorry for anybody that gets sucked in for the rest of their working lives.

  • @ericjetson9359
    @ericjetson9359 Před 4 lety +9

    Everyone has the same opportunity. To win in anything you must learn from the best and do what they have done. Here’s the key to success everybody..it’s hard work.

    • @Joshukend
      @Joshukend Před 3 lety +1

      CORE for 2 years straight, resulted in nothing but disillusionment, lost relationship, and being years behind others in my age group. 1% plat and above, costing 8k/year? That's the worst investment I've ever heard of

  • @battlepig90
    @battlepig90 Před rokem +1

    God bless your soul I was going to see were this shit would go and dam I'm not doing that bull shit

  • @brendaacosta6688
    @brendaacosta6688 Před rokem +2

    I barely found this video and I am an IBO and let me say I completely agree with what you’re saying about the motivational group however Amway does pay it just depends how people do the business, the recruiting is not mandatory and you don’t have to and you can do the PV by yourself and even though it may be a lot , there’s other ways to make those pv points which is to sell the products to certain stores and Amway also have free educational videos on how to do all that and more information as well so this going to the motivational meetings and all that is optional and you don’t need to be part of it also everyone works different and some people prefer to go because they need that boost , some motivational groups do push people to stock up on products every month and to buy the membership and that’s so wrong of them that’s why I just get my information directly from Amway

  • @Architect1
    @Architect1 Před 4 lety +13

    I agree with a lot of what you said. And I wanted to say thanks for taking the time to record and edit this video! The only thing I disagree with is your logic on the percentage chance thing. What you said would only make sense for randomly generated numbers. It's not like you have 1000 people in a room and then AmWay will randomly pick a lucky contestant to be a "diamond". I understand the emotional pain though. Glad you got out of your situation :)

    • @krissmiley7519
      @krissmiley7519 Před 4 lety +1

      From a individuals ibo standpoint becoming a diamond may as well be random and I think for away its somewhere around 1/10,000

  • @beachdiva9586
    @beachdiva9586 Před 2 lety +5

    What about Pearl status? Lol. We were one of 3 couples that helped the upline reach Pearl status at their request to help us "go direct". It only cost each couple $10,300. The upline talked us into buying those door alarms back in the early 1980's in the amount of $10,300 to get to "direct status". We all ended up with cardboard statues all through our houses. Contrary to the belief of the upline, sales of these as a hot item in sales do not come through, Turned out nobody wanted to buy them and we couldn't even give them away. We were scammed by the upline and worse, deceived by the upline.

  • @digbickhero547
    @digbickhero547 Před 4 lety +15

    Taking advice from someone who failed and gave up on something based off a bad experience, negative perspective, and misinformation... I could never

    • @lizardstyle101
      @lizardstyle101 Před 4 lety +3

      Amway is crap
      A bunch of Indians are running it.
      The CEO is from india lol
      Its a cult and a bad environment to stay in.

    • @alex18134
      @alex18134 Před 4 lety +1

      lizardstyle101 don’t usually waste my time on people like you but Amway is an American company. Literally standing for the American way. What research have you actually done?

    • @irl_mmorpg
      @irl_mmorpg Před 4 lety +1

      Alexandria Washburn facts.

    • @lizardstyle101
      @lizardstyle101 Před 4 lety +5

      @@alex18134 i was in amway. that is my research are dumb or stupid rapper 69 would say. Amway is a cult! The want to take peoples money! They want to brainwash you!

    • @rajjain7045
      @rajjain7045 Před 3 lety

      @@lizardstyle101 Google and Microsoft's CEO is Indian too.. stop using them too lol

  • @sean.durham999
    @sean.durham999 Před 2 lety +1

    That's not even a tenth of a percent. Not even one tenth of one percent! Only three hundredth of one percent get to enjoy the top in Amway? That's like... Well, that's like winning the Lottery. So what's the point? Do people actually think they can be part of that exclusive club just by putting in the work? If that were true, the percentage of people that make Diamond would grow over time, Right?

  • @dannyjr7997
    @dannyjr7997 Před rokem +1

    I went to 3 meetings then to the Night Owl. It felt very cultist and told my mentor No Way starting this up. He was quite rude on oh you don't care to win, Amway will win without you. Glad I didn't put Any money into this!

  • @clairehamilton8322
    @clairehamilton8322 Před 4 lety +4

    If you lost a couple thousand why did u quit? I love your shirt by the way! And no hate but I think a little but different because when my parents were in for only 3 months, they actually paid off 50 000 of their total debt. And then they got super successful and we were free and traveled lots. But then corona started....

  • @abeekuworldchanger380
    @abeekuworldchanger380 Před 3 lety +10

    Worldwide was good with mentorship and coaching. Amway on the other hand was terrible. What I also disliked was when you ask people in the business in if they're close to financial freedom, they would dodge the question. They have good intentions, but definitely not an MLM I'd ever do again.

  • @lisanham7508
    @lisanham7508 Před 4 lety +3

    They just got me and now I'm at the fourth step in the process. They seem really nice (maybe not) and idk how to tell them that I want to quit

    • @poeticaffect2956
      @poeticaffect2956 Před 4 lety +2

      Hi Lisa, I just recently got a call from someone because my number was given to them. It's simple chica… Your time and energy is valuable just tell them it's not for you, and thank you anyway. Goodluck… You got this!!!

    • @rachealminnskay4428
      @rachealminnskay4428 Před 4 lety +6

      A very appropriate time to use ghosting

    • @MadanSingh-rq2kt
      @MadanSingh-rq2kt Před 3 lety

      @@poeticaffect2956 so are you giving to give the opportunity to her?

  • @andrewv.9142
    @andrewv.9142 Před 4 lety +11

    really appreciate you telling your story and I think you get the info across pretty clearly!

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety

      Thank you so much!! Still working on being comfortable in front of the camera 🎥 Your support means so much to me!!

  • @mary-annbok4426
    @mary-annbok4426 Před 3 lety +12

    When you partner with a company don't you just directly deal with them? Amway is Amway, WWDB is WWDB.

    • @joelnordstrom8049
      @joelnordstrom8049 Před 3 lety +2

      World Wide Dream Builders is a division of Amway. It has been for a long time

    • @Travistrejo
      @Travistrejo Před 3 lety +2

      WWDB is the coaching and mentoring side of our business and amway is the business opportunity!

    • @JRMiracleman
      @JRMiracleman Před 3 lety +3

      @@Travistrejo True. They are separate companies and have nothing to do with each other.

  • @shellz3295
    @shellz3295 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you so much for this video my son almost joined Amway and wasted his time and energy. I've already been involved in 2 different Pyramid schemes they are I convoluted Colts who do not care about anyone but their own pockets.

  • @11hourpower41
    @11hourpower41 Před 2 lety

    I'm fairly certain that you purchasing the motivational books doesn't give a commission to your coaches/mentors. It doesn't affect your PV or their BV so they aren't actually making money off of you buying a book. The only money made is through purchase and sale of product and then the duplication of that process.
    A regular business owner does something or has a skill that they market to the public. They then expand or duplicate that skill or service by hiring workers. Its the same thing. The only difference is there is no set pay. Yes you could make nothing based on your work ethic but you could also make more than your mentor or coach. It simply depends on who you are. And as far as products go we've loved everything we've tried thus far aside from the meal bars. And the only unreasonably priced item we've come across so far has been their water bottles.

    • @justin7383-q3v
      @justin7383-q3v Před 2 lety

      😂those mentoring tapes is just another stream of income for amway/people at the top. Why listen to them when youtube is free

  • @mushroomdestroyer
    @mushroomdestroyer Před 4 lety +10

    I’m always proud to see people get out of those scams, glad you got out.
    it’s better to sell some crafts on the side or do odd jobs for a side hustle.
    Like I make jewelry, skirts and restore some vintage clothing and sell it on my depop (shop name same as my CZcams name)

    • @MarthaReyes
      @MarthaReyes  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you so much!!!
      Yes, you’re absolutely right! The amount of money and time that is spent in these MLMs can be invested in a real side hustles.
      I’m definitely going to check out your shop!!!!!

    • @ed7519
      @ed7519 Před 4 lety +1

      Mushroom Destroyer: What "scams"? How come the brokest people think everything is "scams"? Ignorance is not necessary today, there are ways to educate yourself.

    • @mushroomdestroyer
      @mushroomdestroyer Před 4 lety +2

      E D mlms are scams for most people, they are set up for most to fail. You also are making assumptions about my financial situation that are incorrect. People can make a lot more money actually starting their own side gig.

  • @susangao9836
    @susangao9836 Před 4 lety +5

    My husband and I are part of World Wide Group. This group of people are the most precious, nicest people, most generous people on the earth that I know. My husband and I are traditional business owner for more then a decade. Before your video, you never shared who you are, your profession, your credibility, your credentials, your success in the business world whatsoever.
    Look into the facts from a credible sources like BBC, BBB, DSA, FTC, etc.
    Get with a true WWG business owner to get the information and get your question answered. The fact of this business is, it takes hard work to build the asset, it’s not a get rich quick scheme. All the people enjoying the result of the business, are all paid a great price and helped significant amount of people. It's sad that people falsed to see the price they paid before they put their opinions on people. God Bless.

    • @brianunger1
      @brianunger1 Před 4 lety

      I would please ask you to take down this comment. While you are right WWG is in good standing with the BBC,BBB, ect... a lot fo what she is saying is inherent with having another company help start your "business". She is mostly just talking about fees that are attached with resources that are offered.
      Nothing wrong with those fees if people are not willing to go out and learn how to find those resources themselves. Nothing wrong with her also not wanting to tell people what she does. I certainly don't go out telling people what I do unless they ask.
      Her video from a business owner's standpoint is super informative. It tells me a lot of what was not talked about in the webinar about the Amway aspect. I certainly have a lot of questions I will have to ask my point of contact for WWG but nothing she says here is wrong from the information that is available online and from WWG. Some of the wording may be misleading but I would put that more on WWG. Example: IBO - Idepented Business Owner. Technically your not one. To be a small business owner you need to be registered with your state as a small business. I could talk about that till your ears fell off but in short, you are hired on as a contractor (1099).
      I am happy to continue this conversation with you or anyone else that has small business questions.

    • @NavyPatriot
      @NavyPatriot Před 4 lety

      @@brianunger1 Independent contractors are small business owners all over America. If you receive 1099 income, you are essentially a sole proprietor. Every captive agent in insurance for Allstate or State Farm is being paid on a 1099 (I owned an agency). There is no reason you couldn't get licensed in any state if you feel like paying the government more money than you need to.

    • @brianunger1
      @brianunger1 Před 4 lety

      @@NavyPatriot I think you are skipping over some very big things here. For most states, you need to get licensed for the contract work you do in that state. Then when you do get hired as a contractor under a 1099 most companies require you to have your own insurance. You could insure under your own name but then you link your liability with your assets. That's why the LLC road works so well to make sure it ends with your business and not your house.
      What multi-level marketing does is set you up as a 1099 salesman. This essentially removes the risk of your actions affecting the company legally. That doesn't really make you a business owner. There are a lot of things that could happen to you if you are not careful that could really hurt you and WWG would have no obligation to assist you.
      As a state farm agency, you were essentially a franchise. I am sure you still had to get licensed and have a registered place of business, insurance, separate banking accounts, and so on. Very different from what I was talking about with multi-level marketing.

    • @brianunger1
      @brianunger1 Před 4 lety

      @@NavyPatriot Would love to hear more about your agency though and what that was like. Maybe I am way off on my first guess.

    • @NavyPatriot
      @NavyPatriot Před 3 lety

      @@brianunger1 Sorry Brian. Lost track of this conversation. Yes, being an insurance agency owner has state requirements for personal licensing and business licensing only because the product is financial and regulated. If I was a 1099 sales rep for a builder in Seattle, I would not have had those requirements. Much like WWG, the Parent insurance company provided my agency with all the back office, sales software and some training. i was on my own to pay for my office, overhead and any sales force I hired. In the end, the company owned the clients and I was left with all the expenses of closing a brick and mortar office with no residual income. At Amway and with WWG, you retain a down line relationship even if you stop actively seeking new business owners. Like any job, if you aren't willing to but in the effort and grow your own knowledge and abilities, you end up not being successful and of course you can get a you tube channel and blame the company for your lame attempt at success. The sad part is it discourages others who may end up doing great in the company, especially in the COVID environment.

  • @Cats-Journey
    @Cats-Journey Před rokem +2

    You have no idea you just open my eyes !! I will definitely not continue this bs.

  • @alexsobol290
    @alexsobol290 Před 3 lety +1

    thank you for your video,almost joined thankfully listening to my gut plus your video put it in perspective. watched 4 zoom of there meetings left the 4th one because they are all repetitive, same story, same graphs with and same diagrams.

  • @john1verse171
    @john1verse171 Před 7 měsíci

    We got sucked in by a neighbor in 1996. It only took a few weeks to realize it was a giant con. A GIANT con game. These people all claim to be christians, but it was the most disgusting money driven cult I have ever seen. Absolutely gross.