Crazy rumors about a possible Tamron 28-180mm f/2.8 Di III VC VXD lens coming in September
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- This is not a rumor from MY sources so I don't know how much you can trust this will happen. But, if it turns out to be true this would be a world's first lens...nobody ever made such a f/2.8 zoom lens!
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Tamron needs a new 16 to 35 mm 2.8 VXD with sharpness that equals the 35 to 150 mm 2.8 VXD.
Tamron can't make a lens with an identical focal length to Sony. I hope it's a 14-28mm f/2-2.8. I believe most people could live without 29-34mm.
@@shang-hsienyang1284 No way. I did not know that. But ever since the 35 to 150 came out I keep on looking at that 17 to 28 RXD wondering why aren't they doing something about that.
Wedding photographer here 🙋🏻♂️ I have the Tamron 35-150 and sometimes I have to switch to the 20-40 just to get a few mm more on the wider end just to get all people in the group shot. Also some more reach is always lovely. If it‘s similar size/weight I‘m all in!
Tamron and Samyang already make 2-2.8/35-150 - both are on the heavier side, but work pretty fine and are optically good - 2.8/28-180, if optically good, would be replacement for both 28-75 and 70-180, so potential sale hit :)
A 28-200 G2 with improved corner performance and VC would be a great news as well 😅
I'm waiting for it like crazy
28-180 f2.8? I wonder the size and weight. If 70-200 f2.8 are already the size we familiar with… then 28-180 f2.8 can only be many times bigger and heavier. Unless tech has advance so much.
I don't think it would be more heavier than the 35-150 2-2.8. as 28 is not that wide.
@@OnlyCitrus 28-180mm would be 50% more zoom than the 35-150mm (6.42 X vs. 4.28 X). It would be a lot bigger and heavier than the 35-150mm IMO.
@@OnlyCitrus unlesss there is some real tech advancement or shortcut. Else what make you think a 28-180 that is wider and more tele than 35-150 would not be more heavier.
They probably can make whatever they want. But the problem is always size weight and cost. To strike a “balance” so people would still buy it and use it. If too costly. Not many would buy. If its too big and heavy. Not many would buy it too.
@sgpork because the 35-150 is wider aperture not the 28 180. The f2 vs f2.8 could be theoretically close to the same size.
F2 vs f2.8 it just may be close In size.
@@martin9933 taking out the f2, it should be about the same size, and i would buy it in a heartbeat
As others have said the 35-150 exists and since it's even faster I would estimate that this lens is in practically the same housing at the 35-150 since it's slightly slower. It should be the same size roughly and weigh about the same. This could be a fantastic lens and is very realistic provided that the optical formula is done correctly. If it were comparable to the 35-150 but perhaps cost slightly less that would be incredible.
28-180mm would be 50% more zoom than the 35-150mm (6.42 X vs. 4.28 X). It would be a lot bigger and heavier than the 35-150mm. That´s why I don´t think that´s gonna happen.
@@martin9933 It's also fixed f2.8 instead of f2 at the wide end, the speed has more to do with the size of a lens than the specific focal range of it without going too telephoto. The tele end is essentially one size more zoomed in and the wide is again only 1 size bigger. It should be close in dimension
That's what I was saying. It's realistic for sure
I wish Tamron or Sigma came up with a 35-85 f2. Anything wider would make the lens bigger and heavier. I would probably even take a 2.8 version if the size is small. It would be perfect for my travel/environmental portrait kind of photography.
Probably variable aperture from f/2.8 to f/4. Otherwise, it will be to large!
I mean there was the Tamron 28-105 2.8 a few decades ago so I wouldn't put it past them. But that lens was a big boy. If they can keep the size of the 35-150 2-2.8 for this one, I would say it makes sense.
I see nothing crazy about this rumor. It is not a 28-280, it is just 28-180. If Tamron can make 35-150/2-2.8 which is faster than 2.8 I part of the range. Since 28-180 is slower (would start at 2.8) it is probably not much bigger than 35-150.
Looking forward to hearing about the new Sigma lens
Any news with regards to this lens- it is supposed to be annonced in September!?
Any news on Lumix s1r or s1h
I just want to see the size and the weight of it. Price would be ?
Sounds too good to be true ... but this would be my go to video lens. I rarely shoot video with aperture below F2.8 :D.
My heart says no. So I’m not gonna get my hopes up.
i would buy it in a heartbeat
My Tamron 35-150 F2-2.8 is easily my most massive lens. But it's absolutely fantastic in my use cases (nightclub and indoor performances). In my circumstances I'd prefer the extension to 180, the 35mm end of my lens is sufficient for me. But if they can keep up the image quality while NOT making it heavier, I'm all in.
What’s happening with the sigma rumour where you have confirmed specs? Any news on that soon?
This is the lens i've been waiting for!!! Using it with an a7cR would be a perfect travel combo!
If true that would be the best travel lens, if it's sharp.
Hi Andrei, please announce the next Panny GM... Thanks
lol
Give me a Sigma 35-150🙏
I think it makes sense. Now companies are taking mirrorless short flange seriously. We saw Laowa 10mm f2.8 as well which is relatively small and takes screw-in filters!
If it's true, it'll be a big and heavy release, right?
Nah it will be a pancake lens. It will also be able to make your coffee and call an Uber for you.
Any news about the Hasselblad zoom?
Any update about Sony 24-70 F2 GM?
I need lighter, smaller and faster lenses for my S9!
F4 maybe 😉 f2.8 seems too much 😅
@@SSProg I agree. We have all had the choice of a 24 to 70 2.8 or a 24 to 105 F4 so that would make sense to have the choice of a 35 to 150 2.8 or a 28 to 180 F4.
35-150mm so heavy . So this will be heavier
Not sure even a wedding photographer would want to lug around a lens of that size. If real, it seems to be targeted at “one lens” amateur photographers. I sure wouldn’t want to use it to walk around while traveling. And sports photographers wouldn’t like the fps limits on Sony bodies.
That lens would be the one lens to rule them all assuming it delivers optically.
if its tamron, it might be the same size as 70-180
Seems impossible unless the lens is 2kg+
If the rumor is true, this is THE lens. You can dismiss the 24-70 and the 70-200 f2.8 and save a lot of cash. I would pair with my 20mm f1.8, but if you want 24mm the 24mm f2.8 from sony is perfect and you can bring it in your pocket.
why????? why don't release high quality compact primes instead
Maybe this is the BIG zoom lens that previous rumors mentioned.
big zoom lens is tamron 28-300 f4-7.1
@@pavolvarga it's long not big at all.
Man if they pull this off...
I don't think so either.
I’m just waiting for a Sony 35-135 2.8 GM to complete the 2.8 series
12-24 24-70 70-200
16-35 35-135
Smaller and lighter than the 35-150 will make it the ultimate wedding / event / travel lens
Having 35/2 and also reach up to 150/2.8 is what makes 35-150 so great and versatile.
Having it all in 2.8, even from Sony, and just to 135 would make it inferior for me.
@@PetrKlapper the 35-150 is massive and heavy and tends to pulse. Plus the 2.0 is only at 35, so if you actually use the lens for anything other than 35, you basically have a 2.8 anyways 🤷♂️
How often do you utilize past 135? I would gladly trade the size and weight for a compact zoom the size of a 24-70 that can do 35-135 or even 105 for that matter
@@tonygerassi1502 Nope, it's 35/2 and 50/2.2 before it gets to 2.8 later. And that's where you need the visual advantage, closer to primes, you'll get plenty of bokeh on the tele side even with 2.8.
As for 150/2.8, it's my second most singular used FL of the lens - did a LR stats check a month back, around 28% at 35/2, 17% at 150/2.8 and the rest is spread out in between.
The point of 150 is you can confidently ditch 70-200 and not feel the difference as much.
So why are they basically going to cannibalize their their other lens the 35-150mm?..just to have a little more on the longer end..seems to be not worth it...and then you have the other new lens the Tamron's 28-300mm f/4-7.1?..
Tamron 35-150mm f/2.0-f/2.8 has been the lens that live on Sony bodies 95% of the time with center sharpness equal to my 70-200mm f/2.8 GM II & 135mm f/1.8 GM. If they can build a f/2.0-f/2.8 lens at such range & sharpness it would not surprise me that they are able to build a constant f/2.8 at that range with VC. Would I be willing to give up the FF: f/2.0 35-49mm + APS-C: f/2.0 52.5-58.5mm with total FF+APS-C range of 35-58.5mm @ f/2.0 on a 50MP/21MP or 60MP/26MP sensor for VC...? I will really have to see the test results before making the final decision.
I am more interested for them to build a 15-50mm f/1.4-f/2.0 lens to go with the 35-150mm f/2.0-f/2.8 lens at this point in time.
Using the APS-C crop mode for the range of 35-39mm on this lens for photo is not the best choice. You would end up with more light and more pixels if you zoom-in to the desired framing in FF mode instead. Cropping cuts the light just the same as increasing the F number. In APS-C mode the equivalent F number is 3 both in terms of DOF and in terms of light gathering, so it's darker than anywhere in the FF zoom range of this lens. Cropping in photo is only justified when you have already reached the longer end of the zoom, and even then I would say it's better to do it in post as it gives you more options. Video is another story, because 4K crop mode doesn't cost you resolution, and also on A1 if I am not mistaken 4K APS-C is oversampled vs 4K FF pixel-binned, so crop is potentially sharper. Hope you don't mind me saying so; since you mentioned that you use this lens a lot, I though it may be useful to point this out.
@@AVerkhovsky are you saying when I take a photos in FF at 35mm f/2.0 and crop it to 21MP on A1 the aperture and DOF would be different than when shooting in APS-C at 39mm f/2.0? Does that happens to your image?
@@Jeo-What No, cropping in post is the same as using APS-C mode in camera. What I am saying is that shooting in FF mode at 52.5mm gives you better image quality than shooting in APS-C mode at 35mm. That is despite the fact that your aperture at 52.5 mm would go up to 2.5 vs 2.0 at 35mm, and your ISO would need to go up too if you maintain the shutter speed. However, ISO would go up less than 1 stop, while there is approximately 1 stop difference in low light performance between APS-C and FF. E.g. ISO 1600 on APS-C looks the same as ISO 3200 on FF, so if you stay at FF and increase the ISO from 1600 to 2500, you still do better than going to crop mode. The DOF at 52.5 FF would also be shallower than at 35mm cropping to APS-C. Hope this helps.
@@AVerkhovsky Thank you for your reply. Taking a FF image at 50MP @ 50mm f/2 would produce a higher detail & clarity image than the APS-C image at 21MP at FF equivalent distance to the subject @ 50mm f/2.0 due to higher amount of pixels in the image. That been said, In-camera cropping APS-C mode is not the same as using a APS-C sensor camera that will effect the ISO or amount of light falling on the exact same FF size pixels since the pixels size has not changed and only less amount of pixels are active to capture the image.
In the real world experience, The A1 does not increase the ISO, shutter speed or depth of field value when I activate the APS-C Crop mode at equivalent shooting distance; however, when the equivalent shooting distance of the subject is different ,regardless of FF or APS-C Crop Mode or using a APS-C sensor camera (with equivalent aperture) the DOF will also change.
@@AVerkhovsky Like most photographers this topic may be confusion as there are many miss information the we may learn through our photography journey and I also had plenty to relearn when I took photography schooling & working in a camera store. I may not be able to explaining my point in a way the you would understand so this video from Tony may explain better than I am: czcams.com/video/DtDotqLx6nA/video.htmlfeature=shared
Don't think this lens is real at all. It would be *huge* and extremely expensive, especially for a Tamron lens, which doesn't have the brand cachet of something like a Canon L or Sony G-Master to "justify" such a price (not saying Tamron doesn't make incredible lenses). Personally, I think the zooms which would benefit most from an update would be the 17-28 f2.8 & 28-200. Give both linear motors and the 28-200 VC.
If its true hove it has VC
Any new zoom lesne for APS-C ?
First. I have their 28 to 75 2.8 VXD and really like it.
no, it's a lie, that lens would finish 3 lens production....35-150, 70-180, 28-70....so it's a BS
And also the 28-200mm. 20mm less, but 180mm at 2.8 (and not 5.6) will be interesting in many cases.
Not really...They just have to price it at a point that works for their lineup...
Yes, too good to be true
No it wouldn't. It would just shift what sells a bit. And it's better to sell anything than not have a combination people want, priced as it makes it worth it.
And I wouldn't trade 35/2 for 28/2.8 in any case, it's the best part of the 35-150.
@@bingbong4848 listen, look at canon lens 24-105 2.8 how big it is...then imagine how this would be
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