Here is the Moment of Truth! EPSON P800 OEM vs Precisioncolors PCK3HD inks
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Here it is! After printing a ton of large images through the EPSON P800 I am now finally sure that I am pretty much running on the Precisioncolors PCK3HD inks and have pushed out all of the OEM inks.
So the test is as follows.
The same pair of images is printed using OEM profiles for Premium Luster on Luster paper.
Side by side comparisons are then made.
According to my results I would highly recommend this inkset for the current EPSON P800 with out reservations!!!
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Please watch: "EPSON P800 Chip Decoder unfortunately DID NOT WORK!"
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Came here looking for Marrut ink feedback, did not expect the KMFDM painted on the ceiling. Must have seen them live seven times by now.
Thanks for all the videos, I keep referencing them every now and then.
My Son was a huge fan and I also saw them here in DC. This was my son's room.
417/5000
hello, I am writing to you disconsolate because I bought an epson p800 and it turns out that by not knowing that these machines sold in the United States and Canada presented the problem of resetting, I am having a lot of difficulties, I already reset 395 usd and I have a error on the display 0x1512 and I do not know what to do, please help me in this country there is no technical support or anything that can guide me, greetings yeiseg ...
Great work Jose, being in the inkjet service for over 15 years, please let that newest print dry for 24 hours and then do your comparison, that print should be color dry in the papers coatings. But right now I think you have some great ink at a great savings.
I will recheck tonight! Of course I should wait till it is dry, I just could not wait to compare!!! Yes this ink seems to e perfect choice for the P800 and P600 at this time. If I am able to check other inks I will post the results!
hola jose soy yeiseg la printer p800 me esta generando un error 0*1512 tuve frente a mi el manual de servicio y no pude traducir bien pero me parecio que era de atascvo no si alguien me proporcionara el manual de servicio u otra solucion temo se me tape la cabez por favor ayudeme vivo en cuba y aqui nadie sabe de esto !!!!!
I just bought a full set of OME inks from eBay. A lad with excellent feedback had it on there, but I missed the auction. I emailed him and he put it back up and I snapped the full set for $325, which is a great price compared to the Epson or B&H websites. Anyway, I'm hoping they get here safe and sound. I got lots of printing to do!
I saw full sets of EPSON T58s for the 3880 for $200 NEW!!! Currently there is a ton of OEM EPSON Ink being sold on ebay!
What is the expiration date?
jose es yeizig el cubano q le escribio sobre el error q esta dando la impresora p800 el code: 0*1512 por favor respondame cto antes tengo miedo se tape la cabeza ????
Pero chico, que quieres que te diga?
Primero, no se nada de ese error o el reparado de impresoras.
Esa clave de error no la conosco.
Vas a tener que llamar a EPSON i preguntarles a ellos.
What are your thoughts on longevity/fading on the OEM vs. 3rd party inks? Also, some weeks ago you talked about sending some prints to Wilhelm institute for testing. How is this going and how about sending prints with 3rd party inks?
Thanks and keep up the good work.
There is no data about that yet! I would assume that longevity will be less than OEM as will any other 3rd party ink vs oem!
There are no plans for any testing at this time unless PC decides to do so.
Cool Jose. I had thought that Epson had neutered the ability to use other than OEM inks. Looking into it right now, just in time, I was about to buy a whole set from Epson!
Except now we know these or any other refillable will not work beyond the first use. They will not reset and they will render the printer only able to accept OEM carts from that point on. Epson's programmers have done it very well!
Jose Como esta deseo bien..
no entiendo mucho ingles pero creo que usted aconseja que si nuestras fotos son para venderla se debe usar OEM tintas..
si es así entonces para que invertir en tintas de terceros..? (sera tan mala la calidad de la tinta de terceros?)
Yo pienso que tinta es tinta y pinta..
y la otra pregunta es acerca de la EPSON P800.estoy pensando comprar una y encuentro 3 versiones
1---SCP800SE
Standard Edition
2- SCP800DES
Designer Edition
3-SCP800SP
Screen Print Edition
cual es la diferencia si usted la conoce pues cambia de precio según el modelo .
Gracias un millón por su ayuda....Jhon
No es que so malas pero que uno no debe de vender fotos echas con otras tintas que no son OEM. Seria una trampa. Tendrias que esplicar en forma escrita que ud no estal entregando photos imprimidas con las mejores tintas. Is vende tdebes de usar OEM. SI solamente lo haces com "Hobby" pues entonces estaria OK! Eas es my filosofia sobre este tema! Todos esos modelos de la P800 son 100% identicos. No estoy completamente seguro pero creo que la uniqua diferencia es uno viene con un RIP software incluido I otro viene con el mismo RIP I ademas con equipo integrado para producir " Custom " Perfiles para tus papeles!
Jose, does the p800 comes with full 80 ml cartridges when new?
Not sure! I bought mine used but only used for about two months. The carts were all about 50%.
Wait Jose, I’m confused. I just saw your video from 5 years back saying the Epson p800 will not only not reset if you don’t replace OEM carts with OEM carts-but it will also lock it as well?? Has that issue been resolved since then?? I just bought an Epson P800 because I saw this particular video here giving me the impression Precisioncolor inks were a viable option to OEM. Thanks much!
That was 5 years ago and WE the Buying world were not aware of what was to come about the P800.
OEM carts can not be reset. Then or Now. Third party refillable carts will be seen as full the FIRST time you use them. But will not reset on on ANY North American Zoned Printers. This info has been available for a few years already. NO ONE was aware of this. ALL the sellers were caught by surprise as reports started to come in.
Thank you for the info Jose!!
Great Videos Thanks so much. I have a question I have used non OEM inks for years on my Canon, I recently switched to an Epson SC-p800 and want to go non-OEM again, have you used any of these non-oem inks and your thoughts: Marrutt or INK JET CARTS and how do they compare to the Precision inks? Thanks again
None of them has provided me with sample inks. Only PC, and so far PCK3HD is excellent.
I was vacilating between the Murratt system and Precision so I went with precision, it was more money but I value your opinoin onthe precision system. DoI need to reprofile?
I was hoping Marrutt through with carts and ink. But...... So I only was able to test PC. So far I have been able to use OEM profiles. But I am sure you will extract even more with a custom one. I will be doing that later down the road.
Jose
Friend what "KMFDM" means? :3
It's German super hardcore metal band! My son and I love them!
I'll listen to them!! *-*
They are like from the 90s and played in my area a couple of times.
si gracias ya le respondi...
Wouldn't the moment of truth be when the colors begin to fade?
Initial evaluation is one thing, longevity an entirely different matter...
Jose Rodriguez 3 hours ago
Sure. When it comes to dye I is. Pigment inks, even these will last a few facades. I have other prints framed under glass that are years old and are still perfect. Maybe the use of 3rd party inks is not your cup of tea. And to that I say, you are right, and that is the best way to go. I also use nothing but OEM inks on all my other printers. But many do not have that luxury and that's why I have this channel.
The cost of each cartridge is stopping me for buying this printer $60 each. How much will be for the generic version?
There is no viable working option for the p800. So for the time being OEM is your only choice. Carts will cost about $120 or more ad precisioncolors PCK3HD inks run $15 per 4oz per color.
Jose Rodriguez
pck3hd inks , explicame cual es esa y cuanto costaria los carts de 80 ml de esa marca. muchas gracias
Igual como te dije. Precisioncolors.com PCK3HD inks para las EPSON K3 impresoras! $15 por botellas de 4 onzas aqui: precisioncolors.com/Epson_789_color.html es la major I mas barata tinta. Tengo multiple videos demonstrando esa tinta en mi canal!
+Jose Rodriguez has the company you mentioned for the ink cartridges have they found a ink that matches the Canon pixma pro-100 as of yet and if so have you tried it out and are made a video printing with that ink as of yet. Thanks for you amazing work and all the information you've passed on too all of us though out your time here on CZcams
Of course! They've had it for ages! precisioncolors.com
Jose Rodriguez ok I'll definitely be ordering from them from now on. Thank you my friend for all the formative and educating information that you're passing on to all of us
To make the process go as smooth as possible, consider buying the squeezy caps with needles. No syringes to worry about and constantly clean! Look at my PRO-100 refilling videos on my CLI-42 Modification Playlist here: czcams.com/play/PLy-ZTSBwqckYtfYwviKawntRg1ePZ1dD9.html
Hello Jose: I note your important comments about the longevity of prints made with the third party inks. Many here would opine that such longevity issues are a major detriment when using non OEM inks. Are any third party inks subjected to Wilhelm or other "longevity" tests? You would likely agree that to see a print made with third party inks fade after a few years would be a major problem.
Are the various third party inks made by those who supply such inks, or are most of the inks produced by one or two "chemists" who sell to the various "resellers"? Also, one might suspect that only one or two companies make the carts that are used by the various companies that sell third party inks. In sum and substance, one must ask how many companies are REALLY making their own inks and carts!
I agree that Cone will certainly produce a "third party" package for the P800. Is there any reason to think that Jon's inks will be any different, better, have more longevity, etc., etc. then the inks from Precisioncolors? Another way of asking the question is to wonder if there is a "hierarchy" of third party ink providers in which one might consider a given product to be superior to another.
All who print our own images owe you a considerable debt for the time, effort, and expense that you have incurred on our behalf.
Dr. Elliot, ALL inks regardless of manufactures will fade. How soon or how quickly that occurs all depends of the environmental conditions that print "lives" in. A woman in the UK was using Precisoncolors dye inks for the PRO-100 and her prints were fading in a matters of weeks even using OEM Canon Paper. And yet No one else I know has experienced that type of rapid print deterioration. Both Ardernburg and Wilhelm basically do not perform many tests on 3rd party inks. They do but not too often. It is up to the people who sell these inks to summit printed samples for testing but it seems they do not. Image Specialists was the USA's biggest inkjet ink manufacturer. There another one in Tampa FL I believe. Those two companies basically provided ALL other USA resellers. The resells are also know to custom "Blend" their inks sets for better matching to OEM. Many of them do. Inkjetmall ( CONE ) is going to provide a set for the SC P series but I have not yet seen any substantiated details on what it will be. A complete revamped set of the upgrading of the Black as was posted a few months ago. The yellow OEM counterpart of the EPSON SC P series ink set has been upgraded for much better longevity as well as the blacks. have all the other colors been blended, balanced and recalibrated? Probably as well. CONE inks are made by ONE lab in China exclusively for them. They are Microencapsulated but the PCK3HD inks from PC are also M. Encap so there you go. The gloss is so good as to not make me miss the original inks my P800 came with.As far as any Hierarchy goes, the costliest inks have always been CONE flowed by possibly Inkrepublic / Ink owl and then all the rest basically fall around the base price of about $14-$15 per 4oz
Thanks Jose.
Can you tell us more about the carts used by Precisioncolors? Does one need to remove the chips from the OEM Epson carts and add the chips to the carts from Precisioncolors? As you know, Jon Cone's carts for the 3880 needed to have the OEM chips from the Epson ink carts added to the Cone carts.
I appreciate your response about longevity. However, if one is selling one's prints then not being able to be completely confident concerning the longevity of third party inks ( vs. the OEM inks ) would IMO prevent one from selling such prints with the guarantee that such prints reflect the latest "best practice digital prints" which the customer certainly expects. Of course, if one is printing for oneself then issues concerning longevity are less critical.
Elliot
Hi again Jose:
I just checked Jon Cone's site. Now there is indeed a Cone set for the P600 and one set is advertised as being "archival".
shop.inkjetmall.com/Shop-By-Printer/ConeColor-Pro-inks-P600/
The system is a continuous feed system. I gather that individual carts similar to the ones at Precisioncolors are no yett available.
Yes. I always preach that if you are selling prints as a business then OEM is the only choice. Refillables for PRO 3800 and 3880 require all your original chips to ride under the controller chips. That might also be the case with the P800 for CONE as he is merely using the same cart chassis and controller chips as well. Precisoncolors carts do not use that older technology. The carets come with factory mounted auto reset chips.
Hej Jose...Nice info...What do you know about Marrutts inks?
Not a thing. Wrote to marrutt USA for a possible sample to test and heard nothing back.
Jose Rodriguez I looked at this website and the have stopped selling the kit for the P800.. will keep an eye on it to see if it becomes available again....
Any one having any problems with clogging?
Bonus points for KMFDM. Hell yeah.
Glad you noticed!!!!
Love your channel! Now I live in Europe so we don't have these problems, may be because the European Union and its lawyers are not so forgiving to companies that try to blackmail us into their products....And that is a good thing. May be Epson sees a lawsuite coming...?
Two questions:
1) Those great inks are also available for the 3800. But it is black. From Precision COlors....Do these then produce the same IQ as the the P800 or is there more to it?
2) Cone color is saying something I mention in 1)...Get better ink, not another (read: P800) printer. I would say sometjin similar of I cannot sell my ink for P800 users....But may be you know more?
3) Autoreset..do these autoreset how??? When? never saw a youtube vid showing how it works exactly.
THX!
The PCK3HD inks can be retrofitted to be used on other Non SC EPSON printer such as PRO3880 R3000 R2880 and any other vivid magenta Epson K3 printer. Same with CONE PRO K3 inks. Their new black inks add extra density not found on other commonly available MK inks. I have not rested CONEs new PK so can not comment but the Ultra HD HD is definitely denser and will increase the depth of your deeper tones but only after profiling.
Auto rest chips work in this manner. When a cart chip reaches empty the printer will no longer recognize it. You remove the cart, fill it and re insert it in the printer and the chip is reset to full. That functionality is blocked on North American regioned P800 models.
Yeah, gotta get something for that 20% VAT right?
So are you saying that my Pro 4880 can use the same inks that is used by SC-P600. I am using PC inks at the moment and will be moving onto Inkowl's ink as PC stop shipping their ink to Australia.
too bad they are not available in europe...
If you are referring about the pro-1 or PCK3HD inks set , yes, only North America for now.
Perfecto jose.Me gustaria conocerlo en persona...normalmente yo mantengo trabajando en sabados..el resto de los dias es mas facil para mi ..me deja saber.Gracias de nuevo.y por aqui a la orden..JHON..
Te mande un EMAIL!
Jose Rodriguez hi how many pages full frame photo A2 size i can take print with one set p800 cartridge?
jose como puedo hablar con ud por whatsapp
Me tienes que explicar con un poco mas detalle que es lo que necesitas. Creo que tratastes de traducir tu problema aparentemente tiene que ver con la P800?
No reconosco el error 0x1512 i tengo que decirte que yo te podre ayudar con problemas de imprimir i el manejamiento de color. Pero nada de la mequanica de las impresoras
Jose estoy en Orlando Florida.
A pues no si problems. Esta niche te evio in email. Mi madre esta en un Rest home en Orlando. Yo visito alli a menudo I te puedo decir cuando estoy en el area I nos podemos reunir.
Hi, Jose! I can't find any way to contact you through your site, so I guess I'll just have to pass this on through this video hoping you read it. Please consider doing a video on this info (problems printing through Photoshop) as we'd be very interested in learning what you have to say. My main question is whether printing from QIMAGE rather than Photoshop would eliminate this problem? Thanks for any information. flip.it/cz.Nm
I will have to take a look at this. I was not aware of any problems with the new PS or LR