Tangled The Series Is Almost A Perfect Sequel Show
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Every season of Tangled needs to have
1. Someone betrays Rapunzel
2. A failed marriage proposal
3. A seal pun
😭😭😭
Don't forget awesome songs
You forgot the new name per season
@@acwalter2838 I don't think season 3 had a new name though
@@despicablepenguin yeah but they added the Latin bit
My favourite example of kids shows not being allowed to say kill is Bill Cipher in Gravity Falls: "I have a couple of children that I need to make into corpses"
I don't know how, but they managed to make it sound *worse* than 'kill'
Honestly, he'd probably say it that way anyway. It's got more pizzaz.
My personal fav is Azlua from avatar I'm about to celebrate becoming a only child
@@alexinitalics188 agreed 😂
@@aquamarinerose7639 wow that’s dark
"And everyone lives happily . . . ever . . . after . . ." **shot of Cass**
I legit smile every single time a picture of Cass is shown in a CZcams video like this. I have a problem
Happy to have you on the "cassandra deserved better" team
Varian deserved better too. I feel that both their characters elevated this series to a place it wouldn't of reached without them, but I have to say even though they both got decent endings, I still felt a bit dissatisfied with the execution and conclusion of their arcs.
@@Passions5555 if you're interested in varian, there's a spin off call varian and the seven kingdoms! the storyline and concept art was made but disney never did the show :( there's a fanfiction that has almost all the episodes written out tho!
@@gabi3742 For some reason I just couldn't get excited for the project. The concept is interesting but based off the notes and other things I have seen about the seven kingdoms thing I just felt...meh, about it. I have tried to read some of the fan fics but I was again not impressed.
@@Passions5555 tbh the way they wanted it to end really kinda angered me. It wasn't meant to explore Varian not fitting in, his PTSD and there wasn't even meant to be anyone falling in love(which is really surprising for Disney but there's only one ship there and Disney aint up for bisexuals so nvm)what really makes u like the concept is how other people bend it and create headcanons
@@Passions5555 There is Cassandra's Tangled adventure as well!
I watched the show almost solely for the music originally. You know when you have Broadway legends Jeremy Jordan and Eden Espinosa and freaking Alan Menken writing that it’s going to be good. I heard “Nothing Left to Lose” and was hooked. And then I stuck around because the show was actually good.
Omg yesss! Nothing Left to Lose is my favorite song. Honestly I kinda relate to it(not the whole wanting to destroy a kingdom part). But I have felt hate before and anger towards people, an like Varian says, the path of hate is a dangerous track, you take one step and it's hard to turn back. It is a really deep song and Jeremy Jordan and Eden Espinosa are amazing singers.
YES! The score is full of genuine theater bangers. "Make You Proud"? "Waiting In The Wings"? "READY AS I'LL EVER BE"?!?!?!?!?! I will be belting them in the shower forever.
I DID THE SAME THING YES YES YES
Don't forget that it is Alan Menken returning to Tangled!
I watched it because it was always on during my break during my work term
Lance adopting Angry and Catalina is one of the sweetest moments of the show. I didn't see it coming but upon re-watch it makes a lot of sense.
That's one of my favorites 😭😭😭😭😭
BRUH
I love Kiera and Catalina so much.
YAS I LOVE THAT FAMILY
I'd like to hear your reasoning. Obviously it is cute but on the clues from the show on rewatch I'm interested to hear that part.
I swear my heart just melted
It would have hit even harder if lance had some character development instead of being just comic relief.
He even wore a purple shirt for the video what a champ
…yes…this was definitely intentional
@@SeamusGorman4 omg i can't believe you responded to that hi!!
THIS. THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR EVER SINCE YOUVE STARTED THIS SERIES LETS GOOOOOO
YESSSS
OMG SAMMEEE IM SO HAPPY :")
That monster Inc show is great you should see it
Omg me too
@@jalpan04 I’ve seen two or three episodes, it hasn’t been gripping me.
Also "Ready as I'll ever be" is an absolute BOP.
GENUINE BANGER
I'd say "Timeless Disney Classic!"
So is “Waiting in the Wings”
True
Same for "Nothing left to lose"
I think the main problem with Cassandra's betrayal is it just goes on for too long. I think it would have worked better if she was only a villain for half a season, so she wasn't just brooding in anger for so many episodes.
Totally agree, they dragged it out way too long. Especially considering how quickly Raps forgives her in the end...
I also feel like her choice to betray Raps would've been more understandable if she was maybe treated more poorly as a lady in waiting-- like she's totally unable to become a guard because of either sexism or because her dad doesn't want it to seem like nepotism by giving her the position. So Cass is bitter at being forced to supports Raps' path and is jealous that Raps got this wonderful life handed to her on a silver platter. Instead, the show made her be like "I hate you because my mom decided to kidnap you and abuse you for 18 years!!!" ??????
@@saml815 RIGHT?! That's what I hated most. Like, I understood that she felt really ignored and mistreated throughout the show. Especially leading up to the betrayal. BUT THEN IT GOT TURNED INTO HER BEING UPSET ABOUT HER MOM WHO SHE DIDN'T EVEN REMEMBER? LIKE? Idk that was just SO. Weird. Idk. I don't feel like Cassandra would be that upset about Raps being kidnapped and Abused by her mom for that long.
While I totally understood the complex motive of Cassandra's betrayal (and no, it's not entirely about Mother Gothel), but Cassandra being evil has been dragged for too long, yes. And Season 3's filler episodes just made it worse.
I would have preferred it if Cassandra's Revenge happened somewhat earlier, and then later Cassandra's episode where she seeks Rapunzel again for forgiveness happened sooner. The series finale would have been about defeating Zhan Tiri alone, unmasked and on the Corona throne, with the trio teaming up with Corona like old times during the eclipse. Except, not all of Cassandra's burdens are fully resolved until the climax of this finale.
They rushed Varian's villainy and tried to make him look unreasonably evil way too fast, even though he had legitimate reasons to be angry. With Cassandra it was drawn out and her reasoning was stupid. She was acting completely illogical and was reveling in hurting everyone who cared about her. It went on so long that it made me lose interest in her as a character which is too bad because I thought she was my favorite character early on.
oh my god yes, she also keeps flip flopping making her less of an interesting villain. From moment to moment angry to soft hearted
Finally some recognition for this kinda forgotten animated series from Disney, I loved all of it being tangled one of my favorites Disney movies of all time this series didn't disappoint.
Right?! Like everyone talks about Gravity Falls, Phineas and Ferb, Amphibia, Milo Murphy's Law, The Owl House etc. But people hardly talk about Tangled The Series or even know it exists
@@leahtheanimationfan40 I wouldn’t put Milo Murphy’s Law in that other category, I’ve seen more people talk about Tangled compared to Milo Murphy Law.
@@joshuajoe1419 Okay. Fair
@@leahtheanimationfan40 I've also seen people talk about _Star vs. The Forces of Evil_ when it came out and also that series was literally overrated and it overshadowed the likes of other Disney animated shows like Penn Zero or especially Wander Over Yonder.
@@EChacon I knew I was forgetting one of the popular ones. I couldn't bring myself to like SVTFOE
About the whole evil Cass thing, heres the thing. King Edmund says "It can get into your head, fill it with thoughts. It's what it's doing to your friend, it's what it did to me, and I nearly destroyed my whole kingdom." So while Cass wasn't being inherently mind controlled, she was slowly but surely being corrupted by the stone. With each wrong and bad decision and choice building upon the first one of taking the moonstone to betray Rapunzel. As Varian put it "With each passing day you're further astray from the light." Then at end when the moon stone is pulled out of her, nows when she reconciles with everything she's done and sees the error of her ways.
I wish more people would talk about this.
So it's really Cass' selfish thoughts but amplified due to the Moonstone, right?
the problem is she kept showing very strong signs that she wanted to change. Like when she disguised herself as a different lady in waiting to try to talk to rapunzel and then got angry when people freaked out upon seeing her trying to take the princess to a secluded location
Basically wanda and the darkhold.
@@aeweljrnold exactly!
6:21 actually Rapunzel is the ONLY ONE where it works, because well. She was *litterally SEQUESTRED* for 18 years and the moment she's finally free she got like a week outside and then she's back to not leaving her room? Yeah ok it's a different bigger room but that's reaaaally reminiscent of her childhood trauma
VARIAN STANS ASSEMBLE
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🙋♀️
ON YOUR LEFT
*hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut*
I'm a bit late, but here I am o/
Seamus. You finally did it. And I was literally listening to Ready as Ill ever be, from this show.
I was a witness
Hooty
So was I
Such a good song
That song has no reason to, BUT IT SLAPS
God I really wish “Varian and the Seven Kingdoms” had actually become a comic. I just loved his character from TTS and I still just want more!
TV series or bust. I need to HEAR his voice
There's a really good fanfic on ao3 that I think stays really close to the feel of TTS called Varian's Twisted Trails. I think it's probably as close as we're gonna get to it being realized.
AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHH WHYYYYYY DISNEY WHHHY.
@@lwanco1018 correction, "Varian's Tangled Trials"✨
The fic was just amazing
@@lovelypink_2005 I still gotta read the final chapter ( I'm not ready for it to be over).
I’ve got to say, I think while it makes at least some sense that Raps had to break her promise to Varian in ‘Queen For A Day’ the amount of filler episodes between that and the next time she talks to Varian is INSANE. Seriously, once the situation was resolved, and she was settled back in and living happily again, she should’ve checked in him, seeing his distress during the blizzard. She also shouldn’t have let him be kicked out of the castle bc it was still a literal blizzard and even if she couldn’t help his dad they didn’t need to leave him to die in the cold- I really wasn’t sure how to feel about her character in the series tbh- I think that’s definitely another reason Varian’s betrayal made so much more sense than Cass’s: Raps wasn’t a very good friend to Varian, but she was a great friend to Cass.
thank you so much for this. I feel the narrative coddled Rapunzel too much when it came to her conflict with Varian.
Totally agree.
I wish there would have been a few less filler Episodes and a few more with Varian, like finding out more about him. Am not a storywriter so don't ask how they should have done it.
But yes, I felt like that was probably a reason why Varian in the end chose his path. I mean the princess being on some crazy adventures would have definetly being talked about. While Varian is home trying to help his father and hoping Rapunzel comes to help him.
You know what forget what I said I know what they should have included with Varian. Him searching for some materials for an Experiment to save his father, only to see Rapunzel having fun and enjoying her happily ever after.
Maybe even including her meeting him and her just saying _„Hi Varian, sorry what happened. I am on my way to have an adventure with my mom, do you wonna come with us, it is going to be fun!“_
If we want to play into the whole naive girl thing... Also I mean he is 14(?), even if she tried to help him after the Episode he would have still seen it as betrayal. At this age your emotions often overplay your logical thinking.
This
7:05 Also that in the end of Tangled, Eugene did mention that it took years and multiples demands before Rapunzel said yes. (Now we know its 3 demands and 2 years)
Also Rapunzel saying no wasn't a twist as there has to have been things happening between the series and After Ever After...sure I guess they could've been engaged during the whole series but I thought Rapunzel saying no was the more obvious route.
I can't believe he never talked about any of the songs, like I was literally waiting in the wings, ready as I'll ever be for an entire section of the video dedicated to the songs.
I guess everything you ever thought you knew was wrong...but at least now you have nothing left to lose
I loved the series and was surprised that Zachary Levi was able to reprise his role. It takes place in between the movie and the short “Tangled Ever After”
Zachary Levi is my everything, I was so happy he did
Zachary Levi always reprised his role as Flynn Rider/Eugene Fitzherbert in every production related to _Tangled_ not to mention he returned to reprise his role in _Kingdom Hearts III_ of course he was flanderized in the game compared to his portrayal in the original film, not to mention Mandy Moore didn't return to voice Rapunzel for _Kingdom Hearts III_ due to filming the 3rd Season of _This is Us_ but also Square Enix never bothered to asking Mandy Moore to return to voice Rapunzel.
I forget which interview, but it was during TTS’ run (maybe one of his Instagram livestreams?) and he stated that he wouldn’t ever let anyone else voice Eugene until Disney forcibly kicks him off it (a la Paige O’Hara with Belle). So regardless of its pay grade, if you hear Eugene, you’re likely going to be hearing Zach! ☺️☺️
@@meaganl124 To him, voicing the character was a side hustle
@@EChacon Mandy Moore did return to voice Rapunzel? Shes credited in every episode and I looked it up after reading your comment and couldn’t find anything that said she didn’t reprise the role.
SEAMUS SPONSORED BY SKY?? It’s an awesome game I didn’t know they sponsored ppl lol
Me neither! Honestly kinda disappointed that they used the little prince season for it… if they sponsored during dreams I feel like that during the winter season people would be more drawn in for the winter wonderland aspect, but I am glad they’re putting themselves out there cause only abt half the ppl I ask have said they know of the game
New memes coming in: "that wasn't very disney sequel of you."
(Edit) OMG thanks for 60 likes
Varian had the best villain song in all of Disney. Fight me.
"Ready as i'll ever be" or "I will make you proud" ? Both are awesome.
Wimblur
I also love "with you by my side" but it ain't a villian song.
@@pierredufour6164 I don't think "Let me Make You Proud" counts as a villain song, exactly. Sure, Varian becomes a villain later, but at that point he's just a kid with a strained relationship with his dad.
@@LtBasil the reprise is definitely a villain song.
I love the song Nothing Left To Lose way too much
Same. It may be my favorite song of all time. The TTS soundtrack is definitely my favorite of all the soundtracks of all of the stuff Disney has ever made.
It’s one of my favorites, too.
I love Nothing Left To Lose, but my favorites would have to be Ready As I'll Ever Be, and Let Me Make You Proud!
Eugene who grew up in an unsafe and abusive environment: 😁
Rapunzel who grew up closeted from the outside with a manipulative and abusive mother: 😁
Cassandra who grew up with a good father figure: 🙄💔😭🤬
EXACTLY!
I honestly kind of liked it, it shows that children of abuse or dysfunctional families can also grow out of it and that villains don’t always need a sad backstory to be evil.
@@riveroverland5902 Cassandra is not evil. And Gothel abused And neglected her enough in the first four years of her life to instill permanent trauma to psychologically screw her up even if she did get a loving and healthy home and parent with the Captain. The damage was already done
Captain is almost a good father that Robert Lee Ermey is in fiction. He's just a drill Sergeant to her, with some professional secrets that Cass is the living clue. The fail to bring back Baby Raps when he has the opportunity, to save Cass at the moment.
Bro forgot that Cass still lived with Gothel and was abandoned
fun fact: the fortune telling monkey scene was actually a deleted scene from Tangled and the image of them with the monkey can be seen in the credits of the film so they must have finally found a use for it in the series
Yeah I remember watching that deleted scene! It definitely fits better in the show (thanks to the meaning they gave it) than it would have in the movie
Best. Show. EVER! Maybe the most underrated, too. It's like a cross between Disney Princesses and Star Wars and a Broadway musical (with an actual Broadway star cast 😍.)
It makes me smile every time someone finally watches it, and they have that moment where they are like, "OH! This is actually good!"
I feel like something a lot of people tend to not realize is how Cassandra's whole characters is about not knowing who you really want to be and searching for a new right path
I don't think we're supposed
to know what her deal is
Like Rapunzel took some time to understand hers and it turns out everything led to her reuniting
with the people who were in a
dark place and needed light
None of this would've
happened if they didn't
learn those lessons
at the end
Cass did leave Corona because she
needed to find her own destiny after
spending so many years fighting for
someone else and that doesn't mean
her and Raps stopped talking
Yes, exactly! Cass’s whole thing is that she doesn’t know what her purpose is, and that she’s been fighting for Raps her whole life. Mow she can find her own destiny without being restricted by anything else.
@@safurahh.8093 It also shows too that Cassandra burying her memory of her mother leaving her really left a lot of unresolved emotional and mental tolls. Throughout the series, Cassandra seeks glory, not necessarily for selfish reasons, but to be seen as someone worthy of respect. She did it to her adoptive father, to the kingdom of Corona (or to a more awesome kingdom at one point), and then to her best friend Rapunzel.
It think that is a great idea and sounds pretty good.
But it also sounds like something a lazy writer would say, because they didn't know what else to make up.
Not saying that is the case, but I sometimes get the feeling that this kind of explanation is created for making up, all the inconsistencies in the character.
@@jackwriter1908 I don't get what ppl lazy writing, it is hard to mantain accuracy in fantasy films
Specially when the lessons are usually the same and apply to the same kinds of people because they're usually the ones seen with main character potention
The thing is as cliché as they can be people still feel for those lessons and characters in diferent ways
I'm not good at explaining thing in a more critical way i just don't want to critize a show when i have a feeling i know where the authors where coming from
This is one of my favorite Disney animated series as it Expanded the world of Tangled from the Sundrop Flower to the Moonstone from the Dark Kingdom, plus it gave character development to not just Rapunzel, Eugene and the cast from the original film but also development to it's characters introduced to the show such as Cassandra & Varian.
Even Mandy Moore & Zachary Levi reprised their roles in the show and also brought back Alan Menken and Glen Slater to write new songs for the show.
The thought of Seamus drawing and cutting out a “1” on a piece of paper just for this video makes me happy😂
It was called “Tangled: The Series”, but for someone reason they changed it to “Rapunzel’s Tangled Adventure” in season 2
Day 16 of asking Seamus to react to Twisted: the Untold Story of a Royal Vizier and/or the A Very Potter Trilogy by Starkid
Seamus don't make us wait a year for this too
!!!
OMG PLEEEEAASSSEEEE
PUUUULEEEAAASSEEE
I’m very excited for Seamus to finally see these
i’m actually relieved, i wasn’t telling anyone i was watching it because i thought that it probably wasn’t as good as i thought it is and i’m just blinded by nostalgia (i was like 5 when tangled came out and i had like two tangled themed birthday parties), glad to hear that it’s actually a good show and i can pressure everyone i know to watch it
ME TOO! I was 9 when tangled first came out & I just started university when tangled the series came out, I assumed I was blinded by nostalgia when I watched it so I did so discreetly. Tangled is so deer to me that I watched the whole series.
Glad I'm not the only adult that enjoyed it.
@@k.a._135 i mean i’m not an adult yet but most people my age are mostly watching adult shows so like
@@anarchy6304 aww shoot sorry!
Well I think the CZcamsr talking about it is an adult..so my comment still stands 😂😋.
On another note, time flies. You'll be 18 in no time :)
If you haven’t already, you should watch amphibia. It is similar to this show, but the season 2 of the show has a lot less filler. You don’t have to make a video about it, it’s just a really good show I recommend you watch
Also the owl house as well which the second season so far has no filler what's the episode that people thought was going to be filler was not a filler episode
And the Owl House too.
@@davidalicea6705 the episode ur thinking about is Knock Knock Knockin on Hooty’s Door
also #SaveTheOwlHouse
Yes Amphibia is so good!
I love amphibia but, although s2 has very little filler, s1 is mostly composed of filler - although the episodes are still fun and well written
I forget what episode but the joke where Lance looses his hearing and Eugene is trying to open up to him had me cackling
Is this the one where Eugene becomes a royal guard
@@jahnaviketha6300 Yes. (also for anyone else who is interested) Season 3. Episode 17. "Flynnposter". He became Captain of the guard.
This show was so amazing, especially with the new characters like Varian and Cassandra and Lance, who were literally so amazing I would die for them. 💙🖤
Also the songs. The FREAKING SONGS ARE SUCH BANGERS.
I’ve been trying to get my friend into the show, and I told her Varian was my favourite character.
After we watched his introductory episode she turned to me and said: *So… why is he your favourite..?*
I’ve never wanted to spoil a show so bad.
The needs to be watched in order to appreciate his character.
@@Passions5555 trueeee. I was trying to show her the non filler episodes (I got a list from online) cause she really doesn’t like starting long shows. Didn’t really work out but eh, I tried.
she's a fake fan 😔 /j
but seriously i think he's by far, the best character there
I’ve seen the full show and … I’m going to be completely honest.
I hate him.
I’ll go hide now …..
@@goodnight-moon564 I am not going to give you flack for saying that. In season 1 in particular the writers set out to make you hate him by making him lean really hard into his villain role and made him do some really awful things to menace Rapunzel. And this was on purpose because the show runner admitted that Varian's character was a late addition to the story and was just a plot device to challenge Rapunzel and they had every intention of making Varian hated by the fan base. I personally love his character and this is from someone who was skeptical of him at first. But you are not alone I have seen fans hate on his character and find his actions as a villain unforgivable. Or the very least just not as taken by his character as others are. Before I got into the series officially and I was still just feeling it out, I was some what put off by how hard fans sweat over Varian and wondered what all the hype was about. I eventually came to like/love him and felt he got the shaft by the writing crew and that annoyed me, but if you dislike him, either out of annoyance over how the fans sweat him, or because he is just annoying to you it is because the writers went out of their way to make him awful to fit the narrative purpose he was assigned to. Because I eventually came to really like Varian, I disliked the role he was given to play because they intended for him to act in way to he hated
Yeah I’d say “almost perfect” is about right. Seasons 1 and 2 were exceptional but In my opinion season 3 dropped the ball a bit, and I think Eugene was mishandled. There was a disproportionately large focus on his vanity and a seeming reluctance to embrace him as more than comic relief except when necessary to support Rapunzel, which is a damn shame because they had an INCREDIBLE story there about him having a kind of identity crisis. “Everything I Ever Thought I Knew” should have been the beginning of an incredibly compelling arc for him but the twist of his heritage barely mattered. And a few Checkov guns that didn’t quite fire properly like Lady Caine and ESPECIALLY Stalyon
They cut the tension in some cases before it had the chance to bloom and played it safe. Cassandra's injured arm from the decay incantation should have held more weight than it did. It honestly should have been more of a hindrance to Cassandra than it was shown especially if it affected her ability to fight and achieve her dream to be a warrior and fueled her resentment toward Rapunzel. Giving more motivation to use to steal the moon stone to fix her body
@@Passions5555 yeah and I’m late to the party but I believe Varian’s redemption arc was very rushed. The path to evil made complete sense and you could see he was capable of being forgiven but then he actually takes over the kingdom and just somehow experiences all the guilt, regret and shame on his own off screen?? The episodes with him in it afterwards were much better
Spoilers and Character Analysis Below:
I am so happy you liked this series and I agree with a lot of this video but I can’t believe you didn’t touch on the music!!! I think it’s one of the series most enticing elements.
Spoilers:
Also, I don’t really understand your interpretation of Cassandra. As I understood her, she always wanted more in her life and eventually decided to give up on her dreams for Rapunzel. She constantly felt overshadowed by Rapunzel as showed in Ep. 4 Season 1 Challenge of the Brave. Again at the end Cassandra is forced in Rapunzel’s shadow and they don’t really make up. Rapunzel’s thinks its fine but Cass isn’t content. Then in Season 2 Rapunzel completely disregards Cass and her input which often leads to them getting in trouble. The weird bird episode shows this. Cass is desperate to help Rapunzel because she has a destiny and it will make her feel useful and like her choice to stay in Corona and be friends with Raps wasn’t a waste of her potential. She points that Raps wasn’t taking the mission seriously. The two make up but only because Rapunzel was almost permanently turned into a bird. Then in the Great Tree episodes Cass sings her song about feeling unimportant, undervalued, and overlooked, thinking she as much more potential but her choice to stay with Rapunzel spoiled it. This is why I believe she gets pushed to the breaking point when she finds out her mother even choose Rapunzel over her, leading to her actions in the Season 2 finale and Season 3. She was so desperate to be in the spotlight that the only way she could get it was to listen to Zhan Tiri when she told her she has a purpose. People only listened to Varian when he started being a threat, she followed the same logic: “Now you care about what I think? It only took threatening the things you love the most” - Varian. Cass looses her morals in a desperate attempt to be needed by Zhan Tiri. Because she never felt content with Rapunzel she quickly took a liking to the endearing blue ghost who gave her answers and a purpose.
I do agree that Cassandra’s villain arc was worse than Varians because it was dragged out to long and wasn’t super deep, but from my interpretation it does make sense for Cassandra to lashed out to attempt to get what she feels she deserved.
Also the reason I believe Cassandra left is because she did just destroy the kingdom… and because she wanted to find her calling- not just go back to being unfulfilled in the castle with Rapunzel
I agree 100%, I definitely understood where Cass's betrayal came from and it made tons of sense after all the somewhat subtle (maybe subtle is the wrong word) build up from season 2.
It was foreshadowed that she would betray them and you could tell that she didn't trust Rapunzel but that doesn't mean Cassandra's betrayal makes any logical sense or was justified in anyway whatsoever, unlike when Varian turned on Rapunzel. I personally thought the reasons the show gave for her turning on her friends and her own father were unrealistic, unreasonable, and pathetic. Those reasons honestly turn her character into a bad person. I mean it's BS that a 22 year old woman would obsess so much over her biological mother who she barely remembers that she would turn her back on her adoptive father who loved her dearly and raised her well for the vast majority of her life. She basically threw everything her father did for her in the trash 🗑 and acted like his love and affection as a parent was meaningless. She took the side of an evil woman who psychologically abused her best friend and forcefully kidnapped her. And for what? Because she was jealous that she wasn't always the center of attention and didn't always get her way. She couldn't handle the fact that Rapunzel was royalty and was technically her boss as the future Queen. The writing made it seem like her main motivation for betrayal was purely because she wanted more status and power than Rapunzel and everyone else. I think the writing for Cassandra's character arc was just bad. They wrote her like an ungrateful, selfish, immature, greedy, and power hungry villain, which was a huge mistake considering that the writers make it seem like the audience should sympathize with her. If they wanted her to be sympathetic, they should have given her a reason that people can sympathize with and makes realistic sense. As a result many people ended up hating Cassandra as a character after her villain arc because her betrayal was for greedy and selfish reasons and nobody actually seriously did anything bad to her to cause her to snap. On the other hand Varian was a well written sympathetic villain because Rapunzel broke her promise to help him, let the guards kick him out of her castle, and let his father (temporarily) die. So in a sense, Rapunzel betrayed him first. He primarily turned against Corona because his friends abandoned him in his time of need, at least from his point of view, and he wanted to get Rapunzel to use her hair to save his dad.
Ik no one cares and I should just stop, but here’s my take
I’ve seen this video so many times that I just assumed that’s what cass’s Waiting in the wings IS czcams.com/video/xCKI6H378jM/video.html but now that I think if it when I watched the show it was just her standing around a rock, In a crumbly place. But what I’ve gathered is, she feels like someone else is always in her spotlight. She never gets anything to herself. And Raps, whenever she tries to bring it up ignores it in the belief that it’s nothing. That’s why cass would go so far and do so much damage, ( I know this is basically what you said but I just wanted to make my own sense if it) and also why she would leave, I agree she should be in the next movies but like you said she needed to be her own person and staying with Raps her whole life just wouldn’t have room for that
@@AuraKumo104 I agree that Cassandra’s arc was much worse than Varians; however, I still believe her motivations are fair just dragged out to long to the point where she is a completely different character. In my opinion Rapunzel was not a good friend to Cass as she never realized how much she hurt Cass. They really only ever make up with each other over the Great Tree situation, never about Cassandra’s unsatisfied feelings with her life. I personally relate to Cassandra so perhaps that’s why I agree with her more. But I do understand your point about her abandoning her father. Though in fairness to Cass she was disappointed in her father (who also made it nearly impossible for Cassandra to become a warrior) at the end of season 1, and only made up with him in the heat of the battle because she was worried about him and the fight (and because she new she would finally be in the spotlight). Also, in the flashback episode where Cass and Raps become friend Cassandra was about to leave the kingdom to become a warrior and presumably never told her father this either. Cassandra is a selfish character from the start, which is why I feel her arc is good but not great and not even close to the near perfection of Varians
@@allyb393 I kind of feel like age of characters matter in this situation. If Cassandra was a teen and not in her twenties, I feel like I could see her reactions being more understandable. But since she is in her twenties, she should have the emotional maturity to understand Raps has literally never had friends or really had to take others into account for most of her life and might not understand she’s hurting her friend. Or at the very least, not be upset to the point of villainy at Raps because Gothel kidnapped Raps as a baby and locked her in a tower to use for her own selfish purposes.
I've only watched a couple episodes of this, but I just love some of the songs. Ready as I'll Ever Be cemented Varian as my favorite, though he was never in the episodes I've watched.
Watch the Queen For A Day 2-parter to see his turn. It’s such good character development.
@@rachelhansen2417 thank you, I'll go check it out
Yeah, here in the UK, Disney+ only has season 1 … he’s in What the Hair, Great Expotations, Queen for a Day, kinda in A Quest For Varian (dream sequence and it’s about him soo…); The Alchemist Returns and Secret of the Sundrop.
If you’ve been watching season 2 … yeah, he’s not in it.
But apparently he’s in season 3 a lot.
I honestly have such a love/hate relationship with this show. I think its really interesting and has incredible songs and animation, but there are so many missed opportunities: Eugene being *the heckin Moon Prince*, Adira and Hector, the Baron and Stallion, Damanitus and Xan Tiri's battle of good vs. evil, Eugene and Raps's relationship (like, yeah they kinda went into it, but i really love their wholesome dynamic and wanted more lol) So as much as this show truly grabbed me and had me hooked, i just wish they spent more time on the incredible plot points they never developed. Thanks for reading this btw have a lovely day 😌♥️
Cas betrayed Rapunzel because no matter who she was close to, they always ended up choosing Rapunzel over her. First, her mother chose Rapunzel to look young and beautiful every day, and then her ‘father’ was searching for Rapunzel to bring her home for a majority of their lives. So in all honesty, Cas thought that if she couldn’t be chosen over Rapunzel, she had to become something entirely different to prove to herself that she is better than her and also to, in her mind and opinion, make her mother proud of her and finally worth the attention she always deserved and desired.
How dare thee not do a famous, “DISNEY SEQUEL FAKEOUT DEATH” on her parents during the first season😬
21:13 what was done so AMAZINGLY to me about the s2 finale was that at first, you’re like “LOL duh if its Eugene or Cass whos gonna betray Raps its gonna be Cass because we know Raps marries Eugene.” and THEN THEY INTRODUCE EUGENES BACKSTORY AND MAKE US THINK ITS GONNA BE EUGENE! PLOT TWIST! And then suddenly he comes back and is fine and then PLOT TWIST ITS CASS!!! Like OMG
More Gothel backstory wouldve been nice. Shes the main reason everyone's lives are screwed up. I imagine her constantly seeking praise from men and being envied by women.
yeah whos her husband
I’m really surprised she had a kid. She valued beauty and desire more than anything. Pregnancy is not her thing
Yes! I honestly wish we got into how she found the sun drop and how she came to serve Zhan Tiri and even betray him. It would’ve been nice for some ancient relic to have been destroyed by Gothel or in Gothel’s possession up until her death which would make Rapunzel return to her old tower.
@@nicholassims9837 She was never married. It's implied that she had Cassandra unplanned with a random guy (not that they could outright say she had a one night stand in a kid's show) and was a single mother. Not that she was much of a 'mother' in the first place considering she only loved herself and treated her daughter like a servant. She talked about how Cassandra was nothing but a nuisance and a burden to have around.
@@AuraKumo104 So who did she do it with and why not send her daughter to her father ?
I was literally just writing Sky: Children of the Light fanfiction right before opening this video, and then Seamus announced the sponsor! Really happy for Seamus and glad Sky is finally getting acclaimed :) Also, I love TTS so this video is basically just perfect comfort content for me-
Just saying you probably should get journey on steam it’s only 15 dollars. (I think it’s called journey)
Also the voice acting in this show, especially from Jeremy and Eden is absolutely fantastic 🥰
Raise your hand if you got into tangled the series by the warrior cats map "Ready as I'll Ever Be"? That map is GORGEOUS.
YES that map was amazing and I didn’t even know anything about Warrior Cats or the Tangled show
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🙌🙌 YESSS
I’m so happy to see you talk about this series! It’s easily the best “sequel” Disney has done! I love how it further develops its already established characters, including Eugene/Rapunzel’s relationship, and also does great with developing its new characters too! The animation, the music, and the plot are all so good! 💜
I think Cass's betrayal is completely understandable - she was tired of always being in someone's shadow, quite literally never being the main character like we see in Waiting in the Wings. She couldn't get past the jealousy of Rapunzel being the chosen one when Cass had worked for everything in her life and was still just a sidekick. I think it's actually a very clever acknowledgment of the trope of the secondary character, and explains why she doesn't want to stay in Corona because she needs to have her own adventures without just following other people.
Agreed.
I agree
I agree with that, but the last like two or three episodes before her betrayal, there wasn’t much indication that cass would do that, through her own expression anyways. What are your thoughts on it?
So... I've been commenting a lot hoping Seamus will watch Disney TVA but at this point he has no excuse. The owl house Amphibia and Duck tales (2017 are waiting for you.
GRAVITY FALLS, THAT'S ALL
Just don't watch Star vs. It's not worth your sanity. (maybe just stop at Cornonation)
@@kittycheshire5099 yeah I agree star gets so strange later on also the show goes very downhill and I didn't like the finale fun fact the finale came out as the game of thrones finale which means it was cuz to be bad from the start because what I heard dad finale is oh so bad so look at that too bad for now he's came out on the same day
Yes the new Ducktales is incredible he should totally watch it😁
Yes Amphibia is amazing!
Day 118 of asking Seamus to review Gravity Falls, The Owl House, Amphibia, and DuckTales. Now that you finally reviewed Tangled The Series there’s more of of a chance.
Day 3 of asking Seamus to review Ever After High
he better
Yes please
Oh dude yessss
This series is the definition of art.
Problem with 3-d season is that author put "you steal my mom" in the first place, and Cassandra inner conflict(selfless friendship against her own ambitions) in the second
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Another problem is that one girl (Raps) can't understand other people feeling's(18 years in the Tower have it's own consecventions) so she unintentionally hurting people who close to her(Varian, Cass-yep her epic fail with " Just wait"), while another girl(Cass) can't share her feelings with others, asking them for help, so Cass stay alone and contine digging her down
I think the best angle is not to think about the movie as a movie. It's not even feature length after all.
It's literally just the first episode of the show, and it does a really good job of that.
I love the style in this show soo much I love the sort of pencil texture of the line art and I love how it isn't consistently lined. I also love the blush on the face.
Agreed. But I disliked the cherry noses they all seemed to have
@@Passions5555 I personally like it though that might just be because I tend to like making pink noses on a lot of my characters because I think it looks cute
@@trixxartarchive7705 it was okay sometimes but there were other times where the lighting made it stand out more. In the episode *Be Very Afraid* when Varian and Rapunzel are going to the Demanitis chamber, the lighting bouncing off the red rocks made their noses look an angry red color. Especially Varian! He looked like Rudolf the red nosed reindeer with rocesia flare up on his cheeks. It looked weird.
Yes!!!!!!! This show deserves so much more love then it gets
17:00 Ah yes, the "Island Adventure" episodes.
...I didn't really like them either.
I genuinely enjoyed Hook Foot falling in love with that mermaid though, and I liked that island homesick episode too. It was really strong back in the time when it was the latest episode where I missed the simple homey episodes of Corona that I just want them to return home as a family . . . but then oh boy! Cassandra had other plans xD
@@BuizelCream they should have switched perspectives and had one or two "meanwhile back at the ranch" episodes where we got to see what was going on back in Corona. Maybe catch up with Varian and his situation. Maybe lay some ground work on the Sapporian take over. I can't believe they utterly took Varian out from season 2 except for a crappy cameo where he is little more than a boogie man in Rapunzel's mind.
@@Passions5555 There were supposed to be more Varian appearances planned for S2 initially, but I remember the writers removed it all but one in order for Varian's return in S3 to impact more. I guess the writers didn't want us to worry about the underlying issues bubbling up in Corona for S2 especially that the main characters are all out in the world as of that time.
Although, we did get some Corona sections in S2, such as the time Rapunzel sent back a lanturn to her parents at the end of the island homesick episode, or that Cassandra and Rapunzel flashback in the Great Tree, and Rapunzel's dream in the House of Yesterday's Tomorrow. How barely Corona was focused in S2 did help matter those instances they did bring up the Corona setting again a lot more to be honest. At least I genuinely liked that, even though it did not show any hints of how Corona is actually doing as of late in that period.
@@BuizelCream I...actually call bullshit on that. I always got the feeling that the show runners regretted Varian as a character because of how much sympathy he got from the a large portion of the fan base when they entirely expected everyone to hate him for his actions as a villain.
The show runners have admitted point blank that Varian was never supposed to be anything but a plot device and I think they resented his popularity somewhat so they took him out of his planned appearances for season 2. I really think that was the actual reason. I love Cassandra's character and though I have issues with the execution of her villain arc, I did like her as villain.
That being said though I found Varian's stint as a villain more sympathetic compared Cassandra's. (Though I like the personality that Cassandra brings as a villain, more so than Varian's. Her disdainful snark and confident attitude don't seem too far away from her actual personality, just without her natural compassion and her sense of justice suppressed. I feel Varian's character was suppressed.
I think Tangled The Series is very underrated. It has actual character development, an engaging plot, mystery, unexpected betrayals and amazing songs
I honestly didn't think you were going to review this series any time soon, but I'm definitely glad you did!
i think my favorite thing about the animation was how they did a lot of 360 degree camera pans, and they did it in a 2D style which is pretty impressive and was very well done
YES FINALLY!!! I love this show so much 🤩🤩🤩🥰🥰🥰🤩🤩🤩
Cassandra's ending was great. After not knowing herself the whole series she went off to find her identity that wasn't Rapunzel's best friend. Makes total sense
Thank you!
it does but I want to know what she did on that journey and what new identity she found for herself. Her story was never properly wrapped up.
@@vange13113 Spinoff anyone?
@@mojo782 Yesssss! A spin off would be amazing!
Yup, but knowing myself Cass traumas, it hurts me and ruined Rapunzel forever. Spinoff won't happen; Sonnenburg middle-fingered Disney TVA under polite execs maneers. I would burn every Varian fics just to see Cass do something great for her and others. I miss her Vardaros triumph for that.
There were actually plans for a Varian spinoff show, but it got turned down because Rapunzel wasn't going to be a prominent character.
Which is bs imo
There were never any plans for a Varian Spin-Off. A comic book concept was pitched and ultimately rejected.
@@chrissonnenburg5954 um actually there was, I’m not trying to be mean but there was, but either way it was rejected
disney is so dumb TwT
@@madeehashah-khan5140 I by no means think youre being mean. Thank you for being such a big fan of the show!! I’m only here to give clarity, never an argument. I was the creator and executive producer of the show. Varian never had any proper plans for a spin-off. One concept for a comic book series was pitched around, and ultimately rejected. But no matter what you read or have heard nothing was ever officially discussed or planned. Varian is arguably one of the BEST parts of the show and as much as I would have loved to have continued his story, the Channel didn’t find success with the original show, thus no further projects were ever pursued.
“68 24 minute episodes” they where so close SO CLOSE
I've only got two things to say.
1: Best example of a commentary video I've seen in a long while.
2: **Sky Cotl fanboy noises**
What I loved most about the series is how close to the source material they were. Like when they go back to the tower and Rapunzel's hair is still there. How the incantations have the same melody, and how some scenes and mannerisms of the characters looks like it's frame compared to the movie. My favourite was when Cassandra said "You want me to be the bad guy? Fine, I'll be the bad guy"... and she doesn't even know she is quoting her mother... chilling
I agree tangled the series is a better title by a wide margin
I agree too. I was so confused when trying to watch it bc of the title change. I thought it was a different show
I never noticed it ever having that name
@@Nakia11798 it did for the first season, then they changed it, so it’s only ever been rapunzel’s tangled adventure on Disney plus if that’s where you watched it :)
THIS SHOW IS SO GOOD
honestly, ive got to say, i would NOT call either varian or cass as twist villains purely because of intentions. someone like that lady you mentioned who was in disguise, or hans from frozen... before we even meet them they come in with bad intentions and are simply not seen as bad before The Reveal because they intentionally act good and/or forgettable and out of the focus of attention, or whatever other way they do their best to keep the blame or suspicion off of them from both the audience and the people in the story...
...while both varian and cass didnt have bad intentions at first. varian was just a little guy who liked doing science and chilling with his dad on the edges of the kingdom until something devastating happened and he begged for help that he wasnt given, and he got beyond upset about it and it pushed him over the egde from just a little guy to a villain who was genuinely hurt by someone elses actions no matter what the circumstances were
and then cass was sort of chipped at over time by never getting what she really wanted and always being on the side lines waiting to finally have what she yearned for but it was always just out of reach, until finally she saw a chance to get even a crumb of what she wanted, and to even have more power over those she percieved as having been in her way no matter how much it was even intentional on anyones elses part, not to mention everything that was going on with her feelings about her mother and how she thought that rapunzel was at fault for her mother not being there for her (until of course when she was confronted with the fact that gothel made that decision because she was a purely selfish person who didnt even care about either daughter-)
i have a lot of feelings about cass i could go off all day about her nhbgfv everyone seems to think she was made bad out of nowhere but i honestly completely get it dude. like. i relate to her fr. i even get why she was being kinda horrible to other people for a while cause first of all she was now powerful but also when you feel left behind by the world you-... im rambling again i have to stop
Okay but the songs in this show had no business being so good
I really liked the slice of life episodes since Rapunzel did live her entire life in a tower so letting her interact with the world was quite a good thing to do, but I do agree that they didn't strike a good balance between those and story episodes/story moments. Both season 1 and 2 had at least 4 episodes each that felt like a full on waste of time that could have been better spent doing pretty much anything else. Building up Varian more, or Cassandra more. Actually having Rapunzel try checking on Varian! Play more into the whole 'even though Rapunzel was locked up her whole life she is still a mf-ing princess so she went straight to having the luxury life where she doesn't have to want for anything if she doesn't want to as opposed to Cass who has always had to fight and claw for everything.' There were just...far better slice of life stories they could've gone with in several situations.
Yeah, I hated Cassandra season 3. A large majority of the scenes she was in had me mad beyond belief. I haven't been this pissed at character work in a long time. She COULD have been so good. When they tried to make her good, she actually made sense and felt like the Cassandra I knew and loved (think the ep where she realizes Zan tiri is evil and dresses as Faith. That whole section was actually great before she chucks it away for a 'grand fanale'). There was so much potential, so many great ways to do her character arc, and they just didn't do it.
I heard an alternate idea for her the other day, where she want's power for the glory, and to make people listen to her, but she wants to help protect Corona with it. Like, she always wanted to be a member of the guard. She likes protecting people. What if she tried to take the captain of the guard position for herself, with her newfound power? What if she did good things, for the wrong reasons? I could even see her reasonably trying to take over Corona, if she believed she could and that she was a better fit for it than the king and queen. And this is just one of many ways that her character could actually work without making her completely stupid. I'm so bitter, especially since she was done so well in season 2. So much potential. Just wasted.
Sometimes I wonder what is it with people hating Cassandra more than Zhan Tri who is the reason that all this chaos started.
THE MUSIC IN THE SHOW IS FANTASTIC LIKE HOLLY SHIT! Also Varian is portrayed as the villain but in reality it’s the King bc he never dealt with the rocks, he ignored them, the kingdom ignored and forgot about Varian needing help. A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD KID NEEDING HELP TO FREE HIS DAD. Varian is my fav character. Really wished the made the spin off Varian and the seven kingdoms.
😭Omg the series was just a mix of emotions! Been watching since the beginning and was so sad it ended!
Also, Yea, I kind of agree with you about Cassandra.
I feel like Cassandra should have taken the moonstone as a way to protect Rapunzel instead of going against her.
that honesty would have been cooler!
imagine it!
she takes the Moonstone as a way to protect Repunzel but it consequently started to drive her slowly insane as time went by turning her into a villian.
I think that would be more fitting for Cass's character as well because she would still care about Repunzel but also still be a villain at the same time due to the Moonstone's slow corruption.
Causing her to be constantly conflicted about her decisions and eventually seeing herself as a monster after realizing the gravity of taking the Moonstone would do to her and seeing all the pain she's caused to those she loved.
Eventually leading up to when she attacks Corona, she now feels as though nobody will forgive her, feeling as though she's lost everything and has nothing left to lose now, becoming the monster she once feared.
THAT is what I think a Villain Cassandra should have been than the one we got honestly,
it's more fitting to Cass's character and would make her eventual redemption a lot more emotional and impactful if i'm honest.
(plus it makes more sense)
Man, in the intro he sure was TANGLED up with some of his jokes. I swear he almost had spilt ends-
Examples of kid shows avoiding using the word kill
Katara to Zuko: I’ll make sure your destiny and right then and there, permanently.
Bill cypher: I have some children I need to make into corpses.
These were the only ones i could think of off the top of my head.
The reason why Cass acts so rash and not like herself in season 3 is being Zanteri is in her head manipulating her. Kinda like a Loki and the mind stone situation
I still count this show as an alternate universe, anyways most of the music is great, love It when Jeremy Jordan sings, I love his vocalssssssssss, Variannnnnnn
Seamus, I watched, THE ENTIRE SERIES just so I could watch this video. And it wasn’t thorough enough. Make a sequel to this review immediately. Thank you for your time.
If you don't know what to do with yourself after watching this series I highly recommend getting into Varian and the 7 Kingdoms fandom. It was a pitch for a spinoff show featuring Varian after this series that was rejected by Disney but has totally taken off as its own fandom. There's a ton of amazing fanfiction based off of it! Actually, most fanfiction for Tangled the Series is really good (almost as good as the show itself) and there's plenty of it!
ok, you did the tangled series, NOW DO MIRACULOUS LADYBUG
It's not over though
Just a little tidbit that I find beautiful and horrible is that Rapunzel's only other broken promise was to Mother Gothel.
I’m so happy you reviewed this!! I feel this show doesn’t get the love it deserves. It’s so good and the music is amazing!! ♥️
THIS SHOW IS SO GOOD AND DESERVES SO MUCH LOVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REALIZING THAT!!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
YOU WATCHED IT! WOOO, this is great. On a side note because I want to be consistent, Day Fifteen of asking Seamus to watch Ever After High!
I am so happy you’re doing this show!
Petition for semus to watch gravity falls since he is watching Disney Channel shows(Disney XD is the same as Disney channel to me)
Also half of it is Disney channel
Also, The Owl House, Amphibia, and DuckTales (2017)
@@kittycheshire5099 yes
Oh look it's my favorite CZcamsr reviewing my favorite TV show of all time, a must-watch indeed
6:16 the only story about that i have ever seen that was origenal was wings of fire the lost heir because it just dialed everything up to an 11 and it had a tone that kept randomly trying to be shocking at random points i think. i dare you to read it because the ending broke me.
I actually really liked this show and I'm surprised you did it but I'm also glad
If you liked this show, I totally recommend Gravity Falls. It has great characters and villains, laugh out loud jokes for all ages, and a satisfying mystery and finale. Almost every episode adds to the story, as it’s only 20 episodes long.
Startin’ off with all the puns 💜
This series is a lot better and makes a lot more sense if you look at it through the lense that Cassandra is in deep unrequited love with Rapunzel.
Seriously it makes all her actions make sense.
Yeah, and then I see her going out into the world is her moving on from those feelings and possibly seeking out a new destiny and possibly finding someone for herself that can return those feelings. I'd like a spin off series following her adventures.
That's my head canon, too. It was interesting to see how Cass would have acted in the episode where Rapunzel loses her memory. Also explains why Eugene and Cass get so irritated with each other.
When i started this series I didn't think that I'd get attached to the new characters but oh was I sooooo wrong. Varian literally became my favorite character and Lance in one of my favorites.
"I called that a joke, but it wasn't funny" I thought it was 🥺
I love how the sponser has just awakened random skykids that stumbled on this vid-
I think that Stalyan's dynamic with Rapunzel was incredible, especially for the younger audience that the show is geared towards. There have been so many shows and movies where women and their motivations hinge on jealousy and hate towards other women, and finally seeing someone like Stalyan who actually considered helping Rapunzel was so refreshing to me. In the end, Stalyan acknowledged her own shortcomings and didn't blame another woman for it. Instead, it felt like she left feeling like a better person because of Rapunzel.
Now Seamus needs to do Big Hero Six The Series and The Lion Guard