Joe Rogan v Jerry Seinfeld
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
- If Jerry Seinfeld is the most recognisable comedian in the world and had a show called Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, and Joe Rogan is the biggest podcaster in the world who platforms comedians on his podcast, why haven’t they been on each other’s shows?
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That's funny, I thought the exact same thing... And even thought...amazing that I've never heard that term... And then... I find your comment.
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@@MichaelPetrakisAre you Korean?
5:24 ....that is the time you exposed yourself soy child. JS not in your top 10 " hell no!!". Sorry almond milk, important shit happened before you got here. I know nobody told you ( turns out Dad's matter ) but if you are talking any list of " all time " and close to or at least half must be before your loser disappeared FATHER left you and didn't teach you that your not important and you should really be quiet. Important shit happened before you got here dick head
@@TheRealPaul_Morphyare you stupid?
They both funny!
Mark Normand's "you should see your act" comment when Joe says he's not a bomb expert is fucking hilarious 😂😂😂
@@santinoalfredo390 tell us you don't own a doghouse without telling us you don't own a doghouse
@@santinoalfredo390mark Normand n norm was the shit rip
You mean #NormMcDonald?🤔
That line is an instant classic! Almost like Jimmy Carr calling Christina a retard!
@@mohnjarx7801he's a professor down at the University of Science
Andrew Schultz calling anything over rated is hilarious.
All Andrews podcast has is four dudes talking over each other. No substance no personality
@@hectorvasquez3605 all very pretend. Schultz is like his brother Bill in that they're mentally deterioting really quickly. Sad if you think about it.
You got that right. He is worse than Bert Kriesher and that's saying alot
@@FreddieJ65the lies
@@misanthr0pic Bert is wholesome and just dumb. Andrew is creepy, unfunny, and full of himself
I don’t understand how you can love comedy and hate comedians in cars getting coffee. Listening to comedians just shoot the shit and getting a glimpse into how their brains work is fascinating to me. Way better than some scripted interview on a talk show.
he also thinks rogan is funny on his podcast which he isnt. he isnt a "funny dude"
totally agree! Jerry Seinfeld created Comedians in Cars so that he could hang out with comedians and get the feel for how they get their ideas, and it usually ends up being funny. Also, how could you not see Alec Baldwin as a funny person (also a great dramatic actor). This guy should actually watch the show before he comments...and if he did watch the show(s), he just doesn't get it!
I liked Seinfeld's netflix car show much more than Seinfeld's actual standup act.
The Larry David episode he did the real spit take I watched multiple times...cracked up every time
So if Amy Schumer has a show then you must automatically like it because you like comedy since she's a comedian. What a dumb comment. It's pretty simple: You don't like it if you don't like Jerry Seinfeld.
I like both.
Larry David combined with all the talent on Seinfeld is what made that show great.
Norm McDonalds who happens to be no only one of the best comedians ever but also a real funny guy had a podcast Seinfeld went there no big fuzz no egos just two amazing comedians, pure gold. oh God how I miss Norm!!!
Right on. I prefer that setting for Jerry these days. It's far better for witty quips with someone like Norm to bounce off. His other stuff is a bit too generic these days.
I never found Norm Macdonald funny.
his mike tyson interview easily the most memorable (for me).
@wr7662 watch the 12 minute jpke
Norm isn't very funny
If Joe Rogan is a comedian so am I
Ha Ha Ha
there's hope for all of us
I actually like Jerry's show lol. I like hearing the stories and just watching them talk. The Norm McDonald one is my favorite.
Rogan on his JRE podcast has proven on multiple occasions he has no radar at all for when a guest is being sardonically ironic with an off the cuff joke. It flies over Joe's head like a fuckin' UFO. And observational sardonic irony is Seinfeld's entire persona.
Thanks hater
Joe? @@Highkingofgondor
Yah he would ruin Joe with his Joke's 😂😂
Yeah dont kiss Joe's arse get the boot
@@Highkingofgondorhating and observations are two different things. Look it up google a dictionary and go from there
Shultz calling anyone wildly overrated is the funniest part of this video.
At least Jerry tells jokes. What does Schultz do? A barbershop quartet gig?
🤣@@petedog9581
Drama? @@petedog9581
Schultz is the Most overrated comedian ever
Dudes a god awful rich boy
Seinfeld is great because he's himself. He doesn't try and be anybody else. Joe's tribe are all trying to be Hicks or Carlin, and they all fall far short (except Bill Burr and Doug Stanhope). Jerry is an all-time great.
Jerry isn't anywhere close to an all-time great. He had one succesful show. His standup is boring. He isn't really funny to most people outside America, who find it all childish and just generally too on-the-nose. What he is, is a locally successful comedian who thinks he's king of the universe. This, of course, is not about Joe Rogan, any old shit would be funnier than Rogan.
More famous for the show. I find his stand up funny but I piss myself at the show. Don't think george Carlin would go on rogan probably the same reason sienfield hasn't.
He tries to be Larry David …
@@nickgeiger1242George Carlin probably won't go on the show for the slightly different reason that he's dead.
@@archangelangel7478he doesn’t they just have the same sense of humor- hence them making a show together
Fascinating. The thought that kept running through my mind, ‘there wouldn’t be any chemistry between Seinfeld and Rogan. They have 2 completely different styles. I can’t see them in the same room.’ Which really goes along with your theory of 2 different worlds. I agree.
This dude just spent 18 minutes to tell the world what everyone already knows, that Joe Rogan isn't famous for his standup.
neither is jerry seinfeld. he was liked by johnny carson and blew up with the tv show. but despite his net worth and his hit show, seinfeld is not even close to being one of the greats. watch the video with louie, chris, ricky, and seinfeld. he literally criticizes them for having new special after new special saying a real comedian has 'the act' honed over years but essentially sticking to the same material, hence his special 'im telling you for the last time.' where he finally retired those bits. think if his show never happened, do you really think seinfeld would have reigned in standup? especially relying on the act cause supposedly this is something that real comedians do.
im not saying rogan is great at standup, they are both average, but jerry most certainly isnt one of the greats.
@@Tomjones12345 You sir are an idiot ... you have to understand the era to fully appreciate the show and you are probably 12 living in your moms basement but you don't need to have lived in the 90s to know that Seinfeld was, still is and always will be the greatest show on TV.
@@Tomjones12345 I tried giving Rogans' stand-up a chance and that shit was garbage.
Jerry might not be on the Mt. Rushmore of Comedy but he is far, far above average. He is also a Joe Rogan is not even decent let alone average. @@Tomjones12345
@@Tomjones12345he's funnier then Joe rogan
The irony of Schultz calling something "over rated" is hilarious.
guy code is high art he paid his dues
@@crud420 He's less than shit
He was clearly just trying to wind the other fella up there imo, I doubt he actually thinks that
Jerry asking Larry King "you think I got canceled??" Really got me giggling.
Larry was a mess
once jon stewart called him a degenerate gambler to his face because he was talking about betting on horses.
you dont have to manufacture an invisible beef that doesnt exist if you wanna know why they never met or never been on each others shows. its because they simply dont need each other
@@supern0is349
Fun fact: Joe Rogan isn’t talented. Some people find him interesting (I don’t), but interesting doesn’t equate to talent. Joe is only popular because he’s sophomoric.
Right. Where’s the evidence that Joe Rogan is bothered by Jerry not finding him funny.
@@LuckyCharms777 .you cannot be "interesting" without SOME SORT of talent in at least one area It is precisely their talents that make people interesting. If you dont find him FUNNY, thats on you, but he has talents - at the very least , as interviewer since he has the most popular podcast on earth with tons of very interesting episodes.
@@supern0is349
Kindly read the definition for interesting. 🤦♂️
@@LuckyCharms777 oh yes, definition, the last resort for people who have no argument and cant use logic. You already contradicted yourself so im not surrprised you pulled off this tatic - which is worthless and only shows i'm wasting time arguiing with you. Goodbye
Hearing Rogan talking about comedy is like hearing a 16-year-old explain what smoking weed is like their first month into smoking.
Haha 😂
Oddly enough, that is also how Joe Rogan sounds when he talks about weed
no one can properly describe what weed is like you just have to try it
I am the only person that skips ahead whenever he starts talking?
@@supernotnatural That's the point.
Andrew Schultz saying that Seinfeld is overrated is the definition on irony.
Schultz isn't over rated.
@@VileCAESARB i liked him , but with time he developed an atitude that im really starting to dislike him ! Ho well .
@@VileCAESARByou’re right… he’s EXTREMELY overrated
he is a hack @@VileCAESARB
he's been getting sucked off by his four companions for so long now, he thinks he's actually funny. @@cbrreezzyy69
The fact that you wrote a whole ass description for this video/situation without calling Rogan a comedian is so petty and hilarious I'm in awe. Bravo.
NGL the stool humpin got funnier everytime you played it lol hahahaha
Why???
@@jonhohensee3258 repetetive humor ergo memes
For many years i didn't even know Rogan was considered a comedian!
Me too!
Still isn't.
He likes to pretend he’s a comedian
He isn't much of one, his material is awful. He's genuinely funnier as a podcaster and off the cuff than he is as a comic.
he's not funny at all. He's annoying. His podcasts used to be good. Now he sounds like a trumpie that makes stuff up, and that has people on that can't challenge him, and if they do, they don't come back and he cuts them.
I've never been a fan of Jerry's stand-up, but I absolutely love Seinfeld. I've never been a huge fan of Rogan's stand-up, but I love his podcast. You don't have to love everything they do. They both are super talented, and some of their stand-up is good, just not my favorite.
You were a fan of Larry David's comedy then, if the show was what you liked. I agree that the show was funny but Jerry's standup is mostly not.
So I will make it even more complicated: don't like the Seinfeld TV show (= Larry David writing), don't like Seinfeld standups, but love him just talking as himself in interviews or Comedians in Cars. Also, love Curb Your Enthusiasm (= Larry David's writing) and Seinfeld's part in it is my favorite. At the same time, I actively avoid Rogan's standup while listening to basically all JRE and finding him really funny there. Seems that in some comedians I like their real personas more than their standups, while in others I like their shows more. Except for Larry David, who is basically always Larry David.
The show is more boring then friends and the office which is hard to beat
Rogan is a shitty comedian. He has a great podcast
@@anthonyboal6086 that show is the best
I love Jerry's response! "Do you know who I am!?" Larry NEVER did any research. He was an idiot interviewer. He once showed a clip of Mick Jaggger acting crazy on stage, and then asked him if he did that all the time! Mick was stunned by the stupid question and said of course not, and Larry asked why not!
That Mick Jagger thing sounds hilarious! Yes, that was an ignorant question because it was about something that is almost impossible to achieve, and he had the guy who did it RIGHT THERE, but didn't know it.
Larry King acted like a complete amateur in that interview. Ignorance, meet Lazy.
Yep , you’re right about King not doing research. It was Seinfelds choice to leave , and the show was still very popular at the end.
Joe Rogan and comedy should never be spoken together in a sentence.
Joe Rogan cannot do comedy?
Have you heard of the Comedy Mothership? He's incredibly important to comedy.
Joe is no Bill Bur but he is still a great comic. What have you done? Nothing thats right.
@@Taffyaptor HELL NO! I rather go eat Will Smiths' fist than hear that BALD wannabe spit jokes.
I don’t like either as a standup comedian, but love Joe’s podcast and Seinfeld show
Pretty much, I like listening to Joe talk about comedy just don’t like listening to him do comedy
He needed Larry David. And the actors😊
Exactly. Perfectly stated. Both are great at one thing
Neither one are Funny. JRE Podcast is great. Seinfeld should wake every morning and give Larry David a Kiss. That show is all Larry David. Even when he left for a bit you can notice.
People back in the day, used to call it the Kramer show. Lol. @@turtleanton6539
George was the ultimate character on Seinfeld
"The BEST Jerry, The Best!"
@@ShloggerKenny (Bania), is that you??
2lazy2try said it best
This should be the pinned comment. George's lazy effort antics were the reason I was drawn to the Show and Absolutely loved Wayne Knight's Newman.
He’s not a comedian tho. He’s never been funny in anything else before or after Seinfeld. He’s classless in interviews because he always steers the convo to how much money he made on Seinfeld.
I love your videos man keep making more. 👍
The moment you called comedians in cars getting coffee the cringest shows in TV history... Thanks for saving 16:30min of my life.
Neither of these guys has ever made me cry laughing from their standup
Have you seen either of them live? I haven't seen Seinfeld but Rogan and his openers always tear the house down live. On TV not so much
@@johnferguson4985 Nah only on TV. I find both of them interesting to watch but never like laugh out loud style from that viewpoint
Agreed I never found either of their stand up. Shane Gillis mark Normand Santino Segura
@@johnferguson4985 I remember watching Joe's first special on tv when I was in my teens and thought it was cerebral or whatever, but I don't remember laughing. If I watched it again now it'd probably just sound like existentialism 101 and be eye-rolling, but a lot is a sign of the times. Especially when it comes to comedy.
@@harrydubois5951 I feel this in my soul
Mark Normand is a Savage 🤣
Compared to the rest of these declawed comedians. Patrice O'Neal was an actual savage.
Some comedians become really famous through being on Television and in Movies. Eventually they become way more famous than they are actually funny. I've gone back and watched old stand up routines and thought " How did this person become so famous for being funny."
Your summary is entertaining and constructive.
The clip of Schultz in his skinny jeans and spicoli vans just loungin about is definitely cringe.
I can’t stand Shultz. When he was a low time comedian he was funny, smart. Now that he’s gotten big he’s just ignorant, annoying and not that funny anymore.
Who is he to bad mouth anyone?
@@samanthab1923An American exercising his 1st amendment right.
They are straight up girl pants not even skinny jeans.
@@saturdaynightorivewho said he is not a female?
Ricky Gervais- great comedian, great stand-up, famous TV show, successful producer.
Never been on JRE
Rogan thinks only Americans are funny
@theoneandonlykk777 Eddie Izzard and Andrew Doyle are the only English comedians I can think of that he has had on.
search for jimmy carr tells his favourite joke and you'll see eddie izzard cross dressing as a man with a goattee @@Mattsretiring
@@Mattsretiringjust had jimmy carr a few weeks ago
@@ItsOttis that was a good conversation
Love your videos
Comedians in cars is amazing. Seinfeld amazing. His stand up decent
Seinfeld doesn’t need Joe Rogan. Period.
Ofc not😊
Atp I don’t think they need each other. Rogan is set after that Spotify deal. But in the learning comedy arena, he’s at an extreme deficit compared to Seinfeld. If Rogan was up and coming, he def could use some shine from someone of Seinfeld’s caliber.
i don't think joe Rogan need Seinfeld either. Exclamation point!
Yea how he shits on him for helping other comics
Nope.
He just needed Larry David.
I've never laughed at a Joe Rogan bit, but he is an excellent interviewer. Seinfeld is funny. As was his show, no question
Very funny 😊
Seinfeld is annoying!
I loved the Seinfeld tv show. I thought his stand up on the show was the least funniest part. I think he's funny, but not hilarious. I love Joe Rogan as a commentator and a podcaster, but not as a stand up comedian.
I’m not even sure you can say he’s a great interviewer. He conducts great interviews because of the level of guest he gets and because he lets them talk and it’s long form. Does he ask really poignant questions? I don’t know. I think the guy from Hot Ones would be a better example of a great interviewer. Joe deserves credit for creating a platform that makes sense and is attractive to a juggernaut viewership.
@@TheRealTurkFebruary
I think there's an element of cause and effect in your comment. Joe does ask good questions, he then allows his guest to answer at length, usually without butting in. He's not looking for TV 'gotcha' moments. He conducts a long form conversation exploring highways and byeways and before you know it 2.5 hours have gone by.
So, I think his approach is low key brilliant because his MO, doesn't draw attention to itself. Some people think he's a musclehead, but he does his research and he's smart.
I think in the case of Adam Ruins Everything he had prepared a few mantraps because the guy was/is a serious junkwaffle, saying most sport was designed for men's bodies and speculating that sport would be better if all the rules were adjusted somehow to make them mixed sex games. Clearly a foolish person and Joe was way too smart for this guy.
We don't have to type it because Joey said it 12:24
Regardless of what you think of the 'Brogansphere', take a wild guess as to why Seinfeld doesn't want anything to do with him
Wtf his stand up is some of the greatest. In addition to having interesting content, he has perfect timing, execution, and pitch.
You have to remember that Seinfeld stayed away from swear words, relationship jokes, racial jokes...he avoided what 99% of comics covered. Also Seinfeld is NOT overrated, some of it is still tight to this day. Some espisodes/moments are incredible...Kramer doing his talk show. George talking about the whale/golf ball. The librarian talking down to Seinfeld. The chinese restaurant. There are so many...and yes theres always these people who will say "Thats all Larry David" but in reality its a (a) a staff of writers, and (b) Seinfeld and David started it all.
As a kid Joe Rogan was that a friend's house and couldn't believe the parents were so upset at him swearing. It seemed preposterous to him to make A few words so taboo," Like how are we supposed to get anything done here, You really want me curating the Wording of every Thought before it leaves my Mouth so your Adult ears and sensibilities arent offended by Words that YOU can say, other ADULTS can say, but if I say them , its a PROBLEM? Fck THAT. That's ridiculous.
Seinfeld, conversely has a deep understanding of how swearing can affect things. He'd agree that "Profanity is the linguistic crutch of the vulgar and inarticulate". Clearly, this is just one example of MANY ways they have profoundly different ways of seeing the world - and may as well be from different planets.
What's the deal with airplane food?
That’s Seinfeld/David combo was the peak of comedy for me. Sure there’s funnier jokes and material since, but nothing has been as consistently funny over 9 seasons as Seinfeld was. Must be on my 20th rewatch and I still laugh.
@@TM-np5lqand that episode with the fat free yoghurt when he did swear was all the more funnier as it was so out of character, and instantly he influenced that kid to start swearing all the time. So good
@@wakeyskate George's encyclopaedic knowledge of public restrooms is great! I love the idea of a man with such arcane but useful knowledge.
Joe Rogan has the money to be a comedian.
And he told us, too!
Remember he said “I have fuck you money” then went on to explain what that meant, which made it even worse!
Rogan has the brain to do whats best for him and his wallet ... 3 hour interviews !!!!
True, Seinfeld is a tv writer that gets to do standup genuinely not very funny
He also has the money to do what he loves. And help others do the same. He knows he's not the best comedian. That's why he gives so much back to the community of comedy.
@@DGillian6406 I do urg….
I've also never thought Rogan was funny, but he's a hard worker and a determined guy. No doubt he learned that in MMA. I think he just kept working on his act until he had something that got him in the door, and that's where he started meeting people and getting TV gigs like News Radio. Then he used his background in MMA to land announcer gigs. Then he used his background in TV, comedy, and MMA to land great interviews as a podcaster. Rogan's success is due to knowing how to set goals and work hard to accomplish them rather than any particular talent. Forget about Tony Robbins. If you want to learn about success, listen to Joe Rogan.
The main flaw with this whole channel is that it presumes the core value of JRE is as a comedy vehicle, but in all reality, that's only a small subsection of Rogan's audience.
I was very confused the first time I heard him being referred to as a comedian. Does he actually tell any jokes?
Yeah , there’s no beef! They are just indifferent to each other …. No drama needed.
I’m more of a Larry David kinda guy but i definitely appreciate Jerry for his contribution to comedy
Jerry as a stand up is below average. He just happened to be the main character in the Larry David show, where all the other characters were actually funnier.
Same. Larry was the show. Jerry was a meh comedic actor and not my brand of stand up comedy Larry is a comedic genius. He proved it by writing everything for Seinfeld and then creating curb.
On comedians in cars getting coffee, Zach G ask Jerry Seinfeld, "Given your contribution to the show Seinfeld, shouldn't it be called Larry David?" There is no more an articulate, accurate summation of Seinfeld's comedic talents. Seinfeld is funny BY ASSOCIATION.
@@Abbotttdesign yup. He really lucked out in life. And the rest didn't get royalties.
@@deansusec8745so silly dude
Him giving larry king shit is great
He gave Larry a dose of his ego.
LOL! Love your take on Rogan's stand up. Haven't seen much of it, but what I did see left me feeling the same way.
That last bit might be the funniest thing that has ever been said on JRE, brings me to tears every time. Mark is, in fact, a fucking animal.
comedians in cars getting coffee was great... maybe that's just me
definitely not just you
nope, it was great, especially the Norm episode...
yep although jerry himself talking was the worst part of the show, his pull in the industry let him get some legendary guests like eddie murphy
@@sangun123I'd say the worst part of thenshownis theblittle editing parts or the fake phone call to get them. Out of place, almost fake laughs and 12 different views of them leaving and entering the car over...conversations.
When they riff and joke with each other, that's the best stuff.
Some episodes I feel are duds. But, that's just the nature of the beast.
So great. I'm surprised I had to scroll so far to find someone defending it in the comments. It isn't cringe at all.
100% agree. i love rogans podcast and natural humor. But never cared for his stand up. I think most should be ok with accepting and nothing wrong with that. I love seinfeld, but can also recognize his style comedy is whitty and creative from a writing point of veiw. But you wont find the crying laughing etc.
But you wont find the crying laughing etc. You misssed a lot of his comedy if thats the case.
Joe rogan doesn't even understand half of the jokes his guests say lol
@@OptimusSatanasor you just have shit humor Seinfeld comedy is out of date and unfunny in the modern day
@@DD-zh4bystill leagues better than Rogan.
Man, great video. Your take is very spot on.
Interesting video. Seinfeld always seemed like he was more influenced by old school 'Borscht Belt' style comics. As though his main stylistic influences were not only of a different era, but from a different social/geographic strata too ,(though I'm not sure I could fully articulate what that means). Also of note is the rock and roller v.s lounge singer/supper club piano jazz type differentiation. One being a comic who might get high or have a cocktail before going on v.s. someone who probably would be less likely to do that. Not judging and saying either is better than the other, only that stylistically they participate in very different types of story telling and occupy different quadrants of comedic space. Joe Rogan is more often dependent on a sort of 'collar grab' hyper kinetic energy and adrenalin push in his stories/bits, usually building to some crescendo (with an implied cymbal crash for emphasis at the end) . Where Jerry Seinfeld has a more laid back ironic bent, wanting to point out ,in a tour guide sort of deadpan ,life's perceived absurdities.With very rote/studied vocal modulations and emphasis inflections. Both can be funny, though usually very different kinds of funny.
Joe Rogan is a great interviewer & host, Jerry Seinfeld is a great comedian
If you like ignorant dilettantic bullshit misinfo/lies/junk science repeated incessantly through a phlegm hacking, smacking, gulping delivery then you’re right, Joe Rogan is a “great interviewer and host”.
Joe Rogan is great interviewer and Jerry is mediocre comedian but legendary in comedy genre - pat cooper
Jerry is ass
@@user-xk2wn9ny2hAgreed x 1,000%, my friend!
Yeah Rogan not funny to majority
Gotta love Andrew Schultz, whose comedy identity is a hip haircut and funny ironic mustache, criticizing Jerry Seinfeld.
His wigger bs is douche chilling and he’s not funny, at ALL
Right? Sitting all weird on a chair and changes positions everytime it pans to him
Lol
he's one of the biggest douches out there....bordering Schaub territory.
He’s wildly unfunny. He will never be in the same stratosphere as Seinfeld.
Don’t forget to laugh really loud at your friends bad joke and touch his leg a bunch
Lol the clip of Seinfeld describing people he likes and likes to talk is Joe Rogan though
1:34 I can imagine Jerry Seinfeld seeing that clip of Joe Rogan and going, "I don't think so."
Dude, comedians in cars getting coffee is unbelievable funny, it's so damn good
It's def not cringe.
How is it cringy? Lol
I like this guys channel but him doubling and tripling down on the Comedians in Cars getting Coffee being cringe take has me hella confused. I would watch a video on him defending that take because its wild. All my comedy viewing friends love the show. its amazing.
I think people don't really appreciate how funny Seinfeld was at his peak on stage. Comedy changes with time. Now his stuff doesn't seem as bright to some people maybe after years of imitation. But I remember how burst out loud funny his stuff was when it was first airing. Same with the show. People now trying to call it overrated, are doing so from the vantage point of youtube commentary. The show radically changed the TV landscape and, at least in my opinion, was one of the best written and performed television series of all time (it certainly punched through the pablum we had been getting in the years leading up to it)
And you have Larry David to thank for that. All the funny parts of the show are either the wacky side characters or Larry David's writing. Jerry is an unfunny person who knew the right people and took advantage of great opportunities.
@@ShowerOnceYearly Larry David is a genius, and don't take that away from him at all. But I think them working together, even though Larry was doing the writing, was still crucial for that show being what it was. Jerry wasn't a great performer. That much is true. They tailored the writing to his lack of comedic acting ability. And there is no question they surrounded him with talented performers and that the show benefited from tons of talented writers as well. But his standup was very funny. I was a fan of his before the show and remember how impactful those routines were when they aired. That said, Larry Davis is a comedic master, but that doesn't diminish Jerry Seinfeld's comedy. This whole thing where people are suddenly recasting Jerry as an unfunny comedian, frankly sounds like when people call the Beatles over-rated. It ignores context, the contribution they made to the evolution of music, the impact, and it is just something people say that doesn't really have any weight beyond it being their own personal opinion. I get that some people don't find it funny. That is fair. I think it is a pretty weak argument though to dismiss him the way people are doing (which I think has more to do with them either just being contrarian or, more likely, just not liking him personally)
@@Bedrockbrendan that's fair. I think it's partly because he's so arrogant and shitty about his success as if a large part of it wasn't luck and working with extremely talented and funny people to build up his career.
But mainly I've never heard him say something I remembered and thought was funny.
Seinfeld is also a great standup. A lot of comedians are too goofy and think they're cool when they're not.
@@virtualbeing5195 Agreed. He is one of the best stand up comedians ever, which makes these kinds of takes feel really off to me
It’s amazing how many of my life experience I can relate to a Seinfeld episode. I’m know to say “this reminds me of a Seinfeld episode”.
100%%%
I refer to a Seinfeld episode all the time. My all time favorite sitcom!
Joe Rogan being funny: czcams.com/video/HxZqc0UKgIs/video.htmlsi=8VsM88FERSioUaRr
There's a 3rd important figure this video forgets in this story, which is Norm MacDonald. Before Norm died, Joe had tried to get Norm on his podcast OVER and OVER again. Keep in mind, Norm and Jerry loved each other. Jerry had Norm on his coffee show, and Norm had Jerry on his show as well. Norm knew Joe had become the biggest media outlet on earth for comics. But he always thought Joe's rat-pack of "Death Squad" comedians was total cringe, and it didn't help matters when Joe's close friend Tony Hinchcliffe was caught ripping off a Norm joke. So in reality, there's two comedy legends- Jerry and Norm - that always treated Joe for what he is; a mediocre comedian that happened to become a big podcast host, but then made the mistake of thinking that meant he was an expert in comedy, when he's really just an expert in podcasting. And unlike Jerry who is still alive, Norm is gone. So Joe will never be able to make Norm kiss his ring. And of course, Norm didn't need to, because anyone with an ounce of taste knows that Norm ran mental circles around Joe's comedy, and certainly didn't need Joe's publicity to be well regarded.
Well said 👌🏼
You’re spot on. That pack is still kinda cringe, if not more, to this day. Joe added guys like Eddie Bravo and Brendan lmaooo I just know Norm would cook those guys alive if he came in contact with them 😂
Norm tried to go on the JRE after they tried to cancel him
How much petty jealousy does one have to carry. The burden isn’t your anymore, good job.
Your comment is so true. It is music to my ears. Norm was a genius and a comic’s comic, recognized, respected and beloved by the greatests (Seinfeld, Chapelle, Conan, Letterman, etc.) it was classy of him to avoid Rogan in order not to have to lower his standards with a lesser comedian.
I 1000% agree with you opinion of Rogans stand up
Seinfeld was the best comedy show on TV ever.
comedians in cars getting coffee WAS AWESOME LOVED IT
I think Joe knows he's not a great comedian. But he loves it and sticks with it because of his love for it. He doesn't have to do it. He's done a LOT for comedy. He's one of the key players in making stand up popular again after COVID.
That's a good point. I don't know if Rogan is "great", but, imo, he's pretty funny. So is Seinfeld, but when I saw Seinfeld live, it was the same stand up material I'd seen years before. Nothing new, which was disappointing.
Seinfeld Is overrated. he's not even that funny "what's up with these airline peanuts" . Larry David is the reason why The show was funny and successful. Jerry Seinfeld is literally the most boring character on the show Kramer's the funny one George is funny Is Elaine It is even kind of funny Jerry's just there being mediocre
@@cade377 Really? I saw his show in NYC a few months ago and it was all new material and it killed.
He did a show years ago called I'm Telling You For The Last Time that was all old material (and was disappointing). I think that's where he got the rep for recycling.
Totally! I don't care for his comedy act, but as far as what he's done for comedy, it has to be more than any of the other guys at the top.
so brave. @@jkephart4624
Bro the Coffee and Cars episode with Eddie murphy was fucking hilarious. Eddie's impression of MJ had me rolling.
One of the most accurate takes I’ve ever heard on anything 👏🏼
I love Rogan because despite being bullied about his comedy constantly. He never uses his platform to try to hurt someone in the industry. I could not even imagine the amount of chaos in the comedy scene if he used the JRE army to attack people. It's not like his piers don't try to take low key shots at him all the time but, it's just water off a ducks back for him. I really respect that trait whether he's funny or not. Which I think he is. Even when he shouldn't be funny I think he's funny.
For instance the stool humping thing isn't funny. Until you realize this absolute lunatic has being trying to get stool humping to be funny for like 30+ years. Like Joe why are you so dedicated to this premise? He did it though after 30 years of failed attempts. I got a chuckle out of his Bruce Jenner Demon bit. Then I started dying when I realized that was the result of 30+ years of dedication. What an absolute Icon lol.
Comparing Seinfield to Rogan is like comparing caviar to cat shit.
I hate Caviar. I can't speak to cat shit. I'll take Bill Burr over both of them as stand up's.
Seinfield is just...objectively more successful and Rogan is not funny IMO. He tries to be Sam Kinison but...fails.
@@scourge8097 Bill Burr and Seinfield both great examples of comedians who know their craft.
To be fair, neither have acts that generate buzz on CZcams. I haven’t seen rogans act in a while, but he was solid comic when he was coming up. I like Joe for his podcast. I think Seinfeld is over rated as a comic, his show was great-especially when it focused on George, Elaine or Kramer. But that “did you ever notice…” style of observational humor was old 30 years ago. I caught his new interview show, not my thing.
Lets not exagerate. Jerry isnt that funny either. Hes just an ubnoxious entitled prick
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I've watched a million comedians and there are many mature career guys and gals who are truly funny. Knowing Rogan was so famous I actually *tried* hard to laugh at his bits-any single one of them - for a long time. It felt like I had funny-bone ED
Yes, Rogan is a podcast Michael Jordan and baseball is his stand up comedy.
Let's be honest, Rogan got big not because of comedy, but because he was a UFC commentator, the UFC got big, and Rogan was pushing JRE. Notice Rogan's rise coincides 100% with the UFC getting more and more popular.
But Seinfeld isn't really that funny either. His observational schtick sucks, just like Bill Hicks or Dennis Leary. It's just not funny
Joe's rollin in that Fear Factor cash.... 🤣🙄
@@davidtalany2153 Seinfeld is a comedy genius.
Why can’t I like both for different reasons? Two different types of humor. One is for water cooler talk and the other is for the boys on Friday or Saturday morning at 05:00 in a duck blind.
Joe Rogan did great when facing hecklers... That's the sign of a good comedian
I agree. Rogan has never made me even chuckle with stand up. His podcast he is great though.
Same as Theo Von. His stand up is strained
Joe doesn’t and hasn’t done tv talk shows in 20 years. He only does podcasts. Look back at his history . He stopped doing movies too. He stated ages ago he was done with all of them and has kept his word. Do a little research. No SNL, No Late Night ,No Late Show!
My man do you have other channels? Ur voice sounds super familiar! Love ur channel
i just think it boils down to them not being close and much in each others circles, and both are busy doing their own thing.
i can't imagine joe sitting in a car with jerry doing the coffee thing
It's virtually impossible to squeeze a laugh out of Rogan's stand-up. It's one of life's great mysteries how he got a Netflix special!
I agree, he wouldn't have gone anywhere just trying to make it by being funny. He's a shit comedian
I feel the same way about Seinfeld. Watched most of his show back in the day and never laughed. Not that I didn't get the lame jokes, it just never struck me as funny
BeCAuSE hEs a MUrdErEr!!!
The same reason Shaub got a Showtime special, Rogan has a large built in audience/fan base, so irrespective of how bad his comedy routine is, it is guaranteed to bring in eyeballs/new subs
I had no idea he was a comedian, I thought he was an actor from 'News Radio' who lost his hair so he started hosting Fear Factor. Then got into MMA and podcasting. That being said, if you can’t write clean comedy, you can’t write comedy.
I think maybe the fact Seinfeld isn't on the Internet has a lot to do with it.
Really if you think about it, Rogan's comedy fame only really lives on the Internet through Netflix and JRE etc. If you don't have social media and don't listen to podcasts the only time you'll ever see Joe is through UFC and old fear factor episodes. You would have no idea that he also does comedy.
Oh and his comedy is terrible 😅
Outstanding video!
Jerry is 90% delivery and 10% material. It's amazing how far you can get by being confident.
It’s the writers, they have to write jokes for you, if they like you or trust you to deliver all the better
hes a dick but lets admit hes good at writing a joke at least dont go too far
no i think he achieved a very high Relatability rating. maybe the highest in recent memory. He has a knack (plus Larry David i suppose) for highlighting every day situations, impulses, responses, etc in a way that is relatable in a lighthearted way and it just works. I saw him live and he had me cracking up talking about when youre done with your soda in the movies you just drop it on the floor because youre finished up with it. point is he can turn really simple premise into something that somehow gets a laugh because you relate and he catches you off guard with the simplicity of it
@milesstover3724 How was what you wrote about what he said funny?
Wow. .
I'm so glad someone else feels the same way about Joe's stand up
Most do
Joe's stand up is not good. Podcast is legendary
@@DM-qd7gw Agree. A smile here and there from me but definitely not side-splitting laughter.
"Hey person I don't know, you also not liking the thing that I don't like that serves no other purpose than to make people laugh evokes feelings of pleasure for me."
Shared disapproval of something harmless making you "so glad" leads me to believe you're no older than 25.
@@MisticStyles Joe Rogan is not funny.
Two of the most famous and successful unfunny comedians of all time.
So fame is no messure for quality .. did nt we establish that with mc donalds ?
subjective
Kevin Hart and Bill Maher, too.
@@clarkkent3730 so very true
Do any comedians actually make you laugh out loud at this point ? Most topics / angles have been covered. I've been watching stand up for almost 30 years. It's just hard to "shock" people with a new good bit at this point
Brendan Shaub talking about comedy is like Brendan Shaub talking about cage fighting.
Comedians in Cars was fantastic for people who love cars and comedians. Jerry is the goat
The actual origin of comedy in Seinfeld is not Jerry Seinfeld, it is Larry David!
I recognize humour is subjective, but Joe Rogan is the ONLY comic routine I've every walked out on. He's got a great podcast with a lot of challenging guests but his stand-up is for Ed Hardy-shirted bros.
They're both great entertainers in their own right.
The real joke is this video.....and riding the coat tails of these guys lol.
Calling something creative overrated is just a way of saying you don’t like it and don’t like the fact that so many other people do.
I wouldn't know who either of these guys were without their *non-standup* work.
This! And that’s strange isn’t it? Like they are considered stand up comics but their most notable work is from tv shows lol…I think that says a lot about just how funny (or not) they may be.
@@EverydayWithBobby No, it says alot about how little you know about the history of comedy. Seinfeld was becoming one of the greatest standups ever before he got his show. He was on Carson like a dozen times, did countless main stages at the major festivals, tv specials, etc.
"You probably know her son Pauly Shore from Encino Man." Dude no one has watched that movie in 25 years. I had to Google it, read the description and remembered i may have seen it in 4th grade.
lol I was a kid too, but I distinctly remember him from it! haha that's so funny, sorry to waste your time googling etc
@@PodcastCringedon’t listen to that zoomer all men of culture know Encino man
Encino Man is legendary!
Hahaha I have fond memories of this movie.
the first 3 minutes of this video is like when you need to pad your intro paragraph to fill the word count on your essay
The Norm episode on Cars with Comedians is one I watch every now and then. But then again, anything Norm does is awesome.
Norm is the greatest
Wait....Andrew Schultz...ANDREW SCHULTZ is calling someone else overrated???... 😂😂😂
Comedians in Cars wasn't cringy, it just was that great of a concept, in my opinion. I guess if your podcast has "cringe" in the title you'll be more likely to use the word a lot.
I started watching comedians in cars again lately and there's some great episodes. Burr, Larry David, Chappelle. All great eps
JRE is the NFL Draft. Comedians in Cars getting Coffee is the Hall of Fame.
This is a pretty spot on comparison.
This doesn't make any sense at all. Joe has a podcast where he has conversations about a multitude of different topics geared more toward anything else to learn and educate. Yes, there are moments of slapstick and just nonsense, but the most part he's trying to push real conversation to expand knowledge and understanding. Jerry show is a very different experience and I agree is very good, but also very different. There is no comparison because they're apples and oranges
@@imagugetusucka8270 I'm speaking more about the guests themselves. Joe will have all kinds of different comedians on, including up-and-coming or lesser-known comedians. Where is Jerry show is a who's-who of comedic giants. Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, Louis c.k., Steve Martin, Martin Short, John Mulaney. Joe will have on more comedians that will be great now and in the future. Jerry deals with comedians who's resume speak for themselves. Peyton Manning had to be drafted, but he's in the Hall of Fame.
And 100
Times more people watch and care about the draft then the hall of fame induction! Mic drop!
Both Rogan and Seinfeld live cars.
Both are Porsche guys.
I think one day they will have the meet.
Seinfeld the show will always be a top 5 shows, he’s incredibly talented and knew to call it quits, I honestly respect it
Berry is saying no to the comedy store, and Rogan inherited the beef
Jerry isn't a billionaire for his stand up comedy, hes a billionaire for a show in which his friend characters are funnier than he is
Probably because Jerry wrote the characters to be funny, but he himself is not a trained actor
you mean larry david @@petermozuraitis5219
@@petermozuraitis5219Larry David was what made Seinfeld work. Look at the last two seasons without Larry David to see how much the quality dipped.
@@petermozuraitis5219 I don't know all the ends and outs but I know Jerry wrote his own character as a self insert and Larry David wrote George as his self insert character. Imo George is far and away the more iconic character. That's why curb is just a better and uncensored version of Seinfeld. Not acting like Jerry did nothing, but most of the main and recurring characters seem like they were written by Larry
@@johnjames5405which seasons were those? I'm guessing the super early ones because they sucked.